Posted by kanjer
i havent noticed too many bugs on mine tho have to admit the camera is not as good as the k800
Posted by ryanchg
I'm deeply disappointed in the CPU as it really runs slow at times and my set hang twice today.
SE oughta come out with a firmware soon or else many more angry users will raise.
Posted by Duran
i dont see why anyone would return their phone before the 2nd firmware release.
Posted by ryanchg
On 2007-10-21 21:36:30, Duran wrote:
i dont see why anyone would return their phone before the 2nd firmware release.
Probably because they are not satisfied with their purchase and can't wait for the firmware release?
Posted by stevenupton1
SE must be aware of all the problems with this phone, they will be losing millions of £'s in returned phones and loss of reputation if they dont act now, me personally am seriously sick to death of not hearing any sort of explanation to why they have designed and made such a poor phone. Dont get me wrong, I love the phone to bits but feel cheated that it isnt performing in the way it should.
Posted by jmcomms
I have to say that I thought the K850 and W910 used an all new platform, which was much faster and allowed better imaging, HSDPA etc etc. In fact, it's slower than earlier models because it's the same kit trying to do a lot more. It's the new Java platform that is the big change, which also sees the switch to the three soft-keys instead of two.
It's made me wonder why they took so long to release this phone if it was merely to add a new media player 'front-end' and the accelerometer. Was this the problem, as the W580i was quite late coming too?
What were SE thinking by not increasing the processor speed at the same time? As mentioned above, the phone is having to do so much more in the background. Use the new media player and it's a crawl; but use the original file manager (still there but hidden away) and it's actually quite usable.
My problem with the file structure is getting worse. It's crashing more now, and if I try and do something like update the data settings (it wasn't set for MMS) then it crashes (reboots) every time it makes a connection.
Problem is a full reset DOESN'T reset the file structure so it needs a re-flash. SEUS says I've got the latest firmware, but won't let me reinstall it anyway. So, I'm basically stuck.
Also, I used the - frankly awful - Sony music manager software (how slow can that be?) and copied over some music to see if album art would work. All music copied, but it doesn't show on the phone. Now I've looked on the PC (in mass media mode) and the files aren't there either. What the hell? Do SE expect you to use this software instead of Windows Media Player? That syncs everything perfectly, bar album art.
Finally, while I'm moaning about bugs, I want to whinge about the removal of the play/pause button on the phone. SE is going too far in its mission to differentiate between Cyber-shot and Walkman. By taking away the play button, it's hard to both start playing music and - more importantly - stop playing music. This is going to really annoy people, especially those upgrading.
And, why have they gone back to playing the music through the internal speaker straight away after removing the headphones? I've knocked the lead out before, and SE stopped this from being an issue by asking "Continue playback through speaker?" to save you from blasting out music to everyone around you. Now it does exactly that, again.
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Posted by ryanchg
Give them a little more time to develop an update, there are way too many bugs to be death with.
Posted by jmcomms
They had most of the year to fix these bugs! Seriously, we all knew about the K850 and the new platform a long time before it was announced. It was always intended to be, for marketing reasons, released late in the year because of the large roadmap of new handsets.
So, while the marketeers wanted to have a defined release schedule, you would have thought the programmers would have had PLENTY of time to get things right instead of this ridiculous situation where loads of people are buying the phone and now getting REALLY annoyed. There's no WAY ON EARTH that SE weren't aware of most, if not almost all, of these bugs before the phone was signed off and into production.
As you can see on here, and our own forum for UK users, long-term SE fans are returning this phone. They're not going to be patient and wait for an update, as there's now a lot of good kit from the competition. SE is going to lose its reputation with things like this. As I've said in my review, didn't they learn anything from the P990?
Sure, with a major update, the phone could be pretty amazing. I sure hope it will be. People who buy the phone by Christmas should get a pretty good phone, but how many others will be buying an LG Viewty, N95 8GB (which, to be honest, IS going to be a pretty serious competitor to this) or something else entirely because their first impressions of the K850 are so bad?
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Posted by hemnath123
As Jonathan Morris said, sony is going to lose lot of customers, because the first impression is going to make sense, people deosnt care about updates, see the k750i, w800i, k790i, k800i and especially the W810i, has got the excellent review on its first firmware release, even though they had some bugs. this make the sales to shoot up. So far more poeple have showed their discomfort after buying the K850i. I dont know what sony will do now. I think people eyes will go on the LG viewty, which can really challenge the N95 8GB.
Sony may be interesting in desigining some other 5 megapixel camera phone. just like the k810i as the successor of k800i.
Posted by darrenf23
Had my k850i since last Thursday, bought it SIM free from an independent retailer. As of yesterday I've had the dreaded "operation failed" when trying to access Applications or Games, same as happened on my k800i and to countless other people on their SE handsets. Done a few reboots and a master reset to no avail so reflashing is the only way forwards... except there's no wotan k850i support and no firmware upgrade available yet. Oh well.
Other than that, for my own needs (most importantly no audio player requirements) it's a superb upgrade to the k800i and I'm really happy with it. Haven't had any of the camera bugs and the alarm works perfectly. The keys took around 2 days to get used to and now I'm as fast as I was on any previous handset.
Firmware as per 'software version' menu item is R1CA029 (1200-4404 R1CA029 070922).
Posted by dualist
Upgraded to the K850 last week. The first thing I noticed was that the middle soft key only worked intermittently - half the time it wouldn't respond when tapped, whereas the two outer soft keys worked fine. I discovered that using my thumb in a small sliding motion, downward from the screen over the middle soft key actually made it work 90% of the time. (I assumed this was a bug that would be fixed in a later firmware release.)
I've also noticed that when you rename a profile from within the profile "View & edit" mode, the profile name becomes corrupted with strange characters when you return to the profile list. Renaming it from the list (rather than going into "View & edit" mode) fixes the problem.
I turned the phone off for two hours the second night I had it, and when I turned it back on again, the handset wouldn't boot, instead cycling through powering the screen on and off, and then the keypad lighting up on and off, indefinitely. It appeared to have corrupted its own firmware, merely by having been switched off!
I took it back to CPW the next day and got a replacement. First thing I noticed was that the new handset was much more responsive, and the middle soft key could be tapped normally like the outer ones, without having to be stroked! The renaming profile bug remains, however.
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Posted by PowerLee
What else do you expect from a brand new Sony Ericsson phone, its going to have bugs with the firmware.
Id always wait at least a couple of months first so the bugs have been fixed before buying a new release of a phone.
SE have just rushed the phone out not fully tested as its getting nearer xmas & they just want sales numbers.
Posted by apotts
I've used many SE phones, but last year was on a D900. It never crashed, slowed nor even did something wrong. I never updated the firmware, and never had to restart it. What's more, I bought it within the first week of availability in the UK.
The 850 is a joke in comparison. Even the instruction book says you have to reboot it daily!
For anyone one who thinks this half finished firmware is acceptable, just take a look at Samsung.
Posted by happykhan
No doubt SE's decline has started
have you read Eldar's review of SE's Walkman Flagship????===> Total disappointment
I think this forum should be closed!!!!
how come such forum should continue working, when the starter has returned his own phone??!!
SE is shooting in its own leg....
Posted by DragonEye
On 2007-10-22 00:28:44, jmcomms wrote:
And, why have they gone back to playing the music through the internal speaker straight away after removing the headphones? I've knocked the lead out before, and SE stopped this from being an issue by asking "Continue playback through speaker?" to save you from blasting out music to everyone around you. Now it does exactly that, again.
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stupid SE... i hope that's a bug... otherwise i don't know what they are thinking.. yikes.. i might have to boycott SE products till they get back in gear..
Posted by Duran
they better hurry with that new firmware;s
Posted by jmcomms
Sony Ericsson couriered over a new k850i for me this morning and I have to say that it's nice to see it working properly (i.e. I can now access Applications and Games). Not sure how it broke before, so no way to know it won't happen again when I start messing around with it.
The touch-sensitive keys are much more responsive on this one. They work almost 95% of the time I press them. The bad thing with this is that it means there could be hardware issues on this phone - and that's not something a firmware update will fix.
I'm going to play around with the camera later to see if the sensors vary from phone to phone. I hope not!
Of course, all the other bugs I've mentioned will be present because it's still the same firmware. I can't believe they have mentioned rebooting the phone daily to save memory (and I've seen it with my own eyes) as this is not something you should need to do. It even suggests a reset of the settings if things go wrong, but - come on - why would you want to have to go through all that hassle for anything other than EXCEPTIONAL circumstances.
But, you know what, despite my rants (which I hope will only help ensure SE get off their ass and fix things) I think the phone is great. Besides the lack of the play/pause key (but I can use the Bluetooth watch for this), it's my ideal phone. If/when they sort things out, I can see myself having this is as my main phone.
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Posted by ryeallen
Does anyone have the following problem---When selecting MEDIA then PICTURES, the phone turns itself off?
Posted by darrengf
On 2007-10-22 13:17:47, dualist wrote:
Upgraded to the K850 last week. The first thing I noticed was that the middle soft key only worked intermittently - half the time it wouldn't respond when tapped, whereas the two outer soft keys worked fine. I discovered that using my thumb in a small sliding motion, downward from the screen over the middle soft key actually made it work 90% of the time. (I assumed this was a bug that would be fixed in a later firmware release.)
** I got my phone last Monday and I also noticed this, If you pulled your finger down then the middle button worked pretty much instanly. but pressing it and nothing really happend. The other 2 buttons were mega sensitve tho. I never thought any more about it.**
I turned the phone off for two hours the second night I had it, and when I turned it back on again, the handset wouldn't boot, instead cycling through powering the screen on and off, and then the keypad lighting up on and off, indefinitely. It appeared to have corrupted its own firmware, merely by having been switched off!
** Same problem. Had the phone on Monday and come Sat Morn, turning the phone on nothing happens. The phone keypad light comes on, then the screen and then the keypad light again and thats it. So I get my replacement tomorrow. Om hoping that the new one is ok **
Can you remember your old IMEI number and checked it wit your new one. Im going to check mine tomorrow to see how quick they have jumped in sequence.
Posted by jmcomms
The IMEI on the old phone was (first part removed) 032674-8
The new one, which is FAR more responsive ends 031629-3
So, going by that, it seems the new one is an earlier production model.
What this seems to suggest is the build quality varies quite a bit, which is worrying! On the old one the touch-keys were not responsive at times, but this seems fine all the time (perhaps the odd delay, but that seems to be down to the phone playing catch up).
Posted by darrengf
On 2007-10-22 23:22:50, jmcomms wrote:
The IMEI on the old phone was (first part removed) 032674-8
The new one, which is FAR more responsive ends 031629-3
So, going by that, it seems the new one is an earlier production model.
What this seems to suggest is the build quality varies quite a bit, which is worrying! On the old one the touch-keys were not responsive at times, but this seems fine all the time (perhaps the odd delay, but that seems to be down to the phone playing catch up).
Mine that is faulty is 061701
Which is a lot higher.
See what i get tomorrow. (Hopefully a better one)
Still like the phone tho.
Been using my W300i for last few days. Never lets me down even when its been in a glass of wine !! Druken phone.
Dropped on the phone and parts are stuck with tape (Bless)
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Posted by stevenupton1
On 2007-10-22 21:38:27, ryeallen wrote:
Does anyone have the following problem---When selecting MEDIA then PICTURES, the phone turns itself off?
Yep have the exact same problem, im not sure how many others have this problem with the media menu but im sure its like all the other problems with this phone....firmware
Posted by Raaab
No problems with media->pictures here. In fact, the only problem with both of mine is rubbish flash photography. The fact it affects both of them leads me to believe that its a genuine model wide firmware problem.
I can't understand why some people's phones have major problems yet others don't. The phones that have these problems must have not been QA'd, and part of the stack-em and pack-em initial phase of rush demand fulfilment.
It's a shame that SEUS can't be forced to re-flash the same firmware like the Nokia Update Service - i'm sure that would solve quite a few peoples problems on here, and save SE some cash in the process.
Posted by TomasL
On 2007-10-22 21:38:27, ryeallen wrote:
Does anyone have the following problem---When selecting MEDIA then PICTURES, the phone turns itself off?
Works fine for me.
Posted by Vash
My K850i's IMEI ends in 040400-8-01
The Media->Pictures restart problem occured once and I had to Master Reset.
Other than that everything works very well, no problems with Touch Keys or Camera.
There is the occasional Media trash after a lot of continuous picture browsing (memory management in that app sucks big time) but it clears up either by just exiting the app or by restarting the phone.
Pretty happy with the phone so far...
Posted by jmcomms
Well, I've managed to break my phone again (Yes, I decided to go and actually USE it)! The file structure is still fine, and I can play games etc, but if I now go to send/receive my email (using Gmail - a secure/SSL connection) it reboots.
I'll try and reset the settings first, then delete/re-add the account but I don't fancy a full reset!
Another couple of bugs;
1) The PC software won't do a full backup. It does everything, but fails on one of the Internet bookmarks. No idea which one, although I suspect it's one that has characters the phone doesn't like (for example, a name with : gets changed to _ on the phone, and I've transferred bookmarks from my PC so they've probably not been renamed). Workaround; deselect bookmarks or rename them all. Not a major bug, but would be if you used the browser heavily with loads of favourites.
2) You can't use this, or the W910i, with both a Bluetooth headset AND the Bluetooth watch. Well, you can, but it takes about 5 seconds to start streaming the audio once it's sent the text to the watch. If there was a pause, you could just about accept it, but what you get is a terrible stuttering.
3) When you adjust the audio with the headset, you get clicking/static noises. I haven't heard this since the W800i!
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Posted by tai020381
Didn't the k800i's initial launch also had these problems???? Then it's initial firmware upgrade had a HUGE impact on the stability on the phone. I say give them some time to develop the upgrade. I place my trust on JP8.
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Posted by TomasL
@tai020381
I agree. Give SE some time and this phone will be just fine.
It is as you say the K800i had the same problems in the beginning.
Posted by darrengf
Well I got my new phone, Which i have to admit feels very different to the old one.
The middle button is tons more responsive and the phone feels more solid.
I have found one more bug in the firmware tho, this was on my other phone but i forgot to add it.
When you place a birthday date in the person details, you dont get a choice to add it to the callender or set a reminder with it.
I use some phone explorer with the phone and added all the birthdays on the callendar manual and even tho they are now set, they still dont show in the callendar on the phone. So if they go of thats another matter.
So if you use your phone for birthdays, Just remember that currenlty on the k850i they dont show.
Posted by killsta
On 2007-10-23 21:21:03, darrengf wrote:
When you place a birthday date in the person details, you dont get a choice to add it to the callender or set a reminder with it.
I use some phone explorer with the phone and added all the birthdays on the callendar manual and even tho they are now set, they still dont show in the callendar on the phone. So if they go of thats another matter.
So if you use your phone for birthdays, Just remember that currenlty on the k850i they dont show.
That feature works fine on my unbranded K850i...what network is yours on?
Posted by darrengf
O2.
I have added them into the phone contact, which only allows me to save the contact.
However on the old K series, when you added a birthday into the contact when you clicked on it, it said do you want to add this to the callendar.
With the K850 i dont get that option.
Even adding them on the computer and sync them to the phone, I still dont see them. but they are there
Posted by TomasL
On 2007-10-23 21:41:54, killsta wrote:
That feature works fine on my unbranded K850i...what network is yours on?
It works for me too.
Posted by darrengf
I can only say then its a o2 firmware error.
Posted by stevenupton1
On 2007-10-23 22:13:11, darrengf wrote:
I can only say then its a o2 firmware error.
Ive just checked on my O2 K850i and the birthday thing works fine....must be your phone at a guess
The only real probs im getting is with the shutting down when viewing photo's in the media menu and the best pic feature doesnt work. Im hoping htey relase the firmware update pronto.
Posted by jmcomms
Had the phone in both auto and night portrait mode tonight, in a dark bar, and took about six pictures where the flash fired early, leaving me with a totally black image! As usual, the sensor/flash was NOT covered in any way (re. leaflet that shows you how to hold the camera).
In a couple of other cases, the flash didn't charge/fire at all - again, leaving me with a totally black image, save for a few over amplified pixels of light.
Oh dear. It's a Cyber-shot cameraphone, but you can't even be sure it will take a photo properly at all!
Posted by Ricky D
On 2007-10-22 23:48:02, stevenupton1 wrote:
On 2007-10-22 21:38:27, ryeallen wrote:
Does anyone have the following problem---When selecting MEDIA then PICTURES, the phone turns itself off?
Yep have the exact same problem, im not sure how many others have this problem with the media menu but im sure its like all the other problems with this phone....firmware
To fix this problem you have to do a Master Reset. I had the problem and called Vodafone o send it back and about 10 minutes before the delivery guy arrived I fixed it with a master reset. By doing a master reset you will lose all info saved on the phone however, so back up your applications and contacts etc that are saved on the phone.
Posted by elad
On 2007-10-20 00:17:55, rambalu80 wrote:
On 2007-10-19 21:41:46, SE-Naz wrote:
Has anyone noticed that in the music player if you set the equilzer to MANUAL and then STOP the music and CLOSE the Player... Then go back into it it goes back to the previous setting... For example if you have left it on BASS setting...
Cheers
ENJOY
I just noticed it after reading your post. But if you go back to manual, your manual setting stays unaltered.
This is a major issue for me as I do not like all the presets equalisers that come with the phone. I've always used the Manual setting and to have to go back to activate the Manual setting each time you start the Media player is just too much of a hassle!!! SE W850i does not have this problem and it actually remembers the Manual setting.
In addition, I notice that the mp3 sound quality (same mp3 file) with the K850i is not as good as the SE W850i which is superb. Shame SE just can't seem to make it right.
Also disappointed is the camera's night shot as pointed out by many users. The pictures are just far too dark even which a focus object not too distant away!
I quite like the phone but it's just seems to have to many issues with it. I'm considering returning this phone
Posted by the_trev
i've discovered possibly the most unusual bug possible....
Using Vista Ultimate x64, whilst transferring files to the PC in Phone mode, if an alarm goes off on the phone then vista will crash. i'm unsure whether this is an issue with vista, the PC suite or the phone though.
have recreated, shall get exact error message tonight.
(this is the VF firmware)
Posted by dileepd11
I was waiting for this phone for a long time but it looks like i will have to stick with my K800 or switch over to a Nokia unless SE releases a K860 with all these issues fixed and a normal joystick.
Posted by Enoch
I got hold of the phone Wednesday last week, and so far very satisfied:
IMEI: 35887404
Firm: R1CA029
it's Vodaphone branded, which i upgraded from W900 (which was quite awful, a big disapointment).
Is it me or do O2 branded phone seem to have a lot of problem, according to this thread? My GF had a similar issue when w800 came out, poor firmware used to wipe out the memory card.
Maybe one should compile a list of bugs observed on one platform and not the other, to see where the problem comes from
I have noticed the flash bug, i guess it might have to do with the light sensor, and distance to the subject of the photo. Perhaps a future update will allow the flash to be used at all time. Also, 5mpx is decent, not great, then again it's a phone, not a proper camera. It's good enough to snipe decent quality pics on the go, get yourself an SLR if you intend to do proper photography.
Video seems to work fine, i just encoded a Pantera Video (about 3mns) and it was very fluid at 350kbps.
Now encoding 20mns of video with similar settings to compare.
I recommend using Handbrake for ripping DVDs, I've always been very happy with the results. I hope Mysh or someone else will do a guide to encoding the best video with this phone, as was done on Valpulus.com for the w900 previously. i'll be glad to share my results in the meantime.
Posted by Duran
On 2007-10-24 09:52:57, dileepd11 wrote:
I was waiting for this phone for a long time but it looks like i will have to stick with my K800 or switch over to a Nokia unless SE releases a K860 with all these issues fixed and a normal joystick.
you want a joystick that will die on you in 6months?
Posted by ScorpZ
What the hell, i just noticed, that when i'm taking a panorama pic, only resolution available is VGA (640x480). All other options are grayed out.
Crap. I hope this is a bug and not a feature. I like shooting panorama pics. :/
Posted by stevenupton1
On 2007-10-24 01:25:51, Ricky D wrote:
On 2007-10-22 23:48:02, stevenupton1 wrote:
On 2007-10-22 21:38:27, ryeallen wrote:
Does anyone have the following problem---When selecting MEDIA then PICTURES, the phone turns itself off?
Yep have the exact same problem, im not sure how many others have this problem with the media menu but im sure its like all the other problems with this phone....firmware
To fix this problem you have to do a Master Reset. I had the problem and called Vodafone o send it back and about 10 minutes before the delivery guy arrived I fixed it with a master reset. By doing a master reset you will lose all info saved on the phone however, so back up your applications and contacts etc that are saved on the phone.
Ive tried a master reset and worked ok for a few hours and then started doing the same thing again
Posted by Sebby
When I press a button and the backlight comes on at full brightness, the phone then dims in about 5 steps. I'm not talking about when you haven't pressed any keys for a few seconds and it dims before switching off, I mean when the backlight is off and a key is pressed to wake it up. Anyone else's like this?
Posted by mwarner
> you want a joystick that will die on you in 6months?
I too really like the joysticks present on SE phones. Sure, they tend to become unresponsive after 8-12 months, but if it gets too bad you can send the phone off to SE to be repaired (which, I am sure, is why they got rid of the joystick - too many repair requests).
I would have a phone with a joystick any day over one with a D-Pad - especially the K850's. Unfortunately SE have never made a joystick that would be reliable for more than a year with heavy usage (although my K700 did pretty well, working pefectly until I sold it after 11-12months), so the likelyhood of reintroducing one in the near future is fairly slim.
Posted by martuk
On 2007-10-24 17:24:19, Sebby wrote:
When I press a button and the backlight comes on at full brightness, the phone then dims in about 5 steps. I'm not talking about when you haven't pressed any keys for a few seconds and it dims before switching off, I mean when the backlight is off and a key is pressed to wake it up. Anyone else's like this?
Is it not the light sensor adjusting the screen brightness??
Posted by darrengf
On 2007-10-24 10:24:47, Enoch wrote:
I got hold of the phone Wednesday last week, and so far very satisfied:
IMEI: 35887404
Firm: R1CA029
it's Vodaphone branded, which i upgraded from W900 (which was quite awful, a big disapointment).
Is it me or do O2 branded phone seem to have a lot of problem, according to this thread? My GF had a similar issue when w800 came out, poor firmware used to wipe out the memory card.
Maybe one should compile a list of bugs observed on one platform and not the other, to see where the problem comes from
I have noticed the flash bug, i guess it might have to do with the light sensor, and distance to the subject of the photo. Perhaps a future update will allow the flash to be used at all time. Also, 5mpx is decent, not great, then again it's a phone, not a proper camera. It's good enough to snipe decent quality pics on the go, get yourself an SLR if you intend to do proper photography.
Video seems to work fine, i just encoded a Pantera Video (about 3mns) and it was very fluid at 350kbps.
Now encoding 20mns of video with similar settings to compare.
I recommend using Handbrake for ripping DVDs, I've always been very happy with the results. I hope Mysh or someone else will do a guide to encoding the best video with this phone, as was done on Valpulus.com for the w900 previously. i'll be glad to share my results in the meantime.
The reason why O2 in mentioned on here alot is that o2 will have sold more k850is that voda, it was the first network to release the handset, and most people on here may also be on o2 too.
Also the phones that most are talking about are on o2, but sim free. I have a o2 phone and mine isnt branded like the luvly vodafones are.
Only branding i have is a o2 logo where the play now button is. Other than that, its left pretty much alone.
Posted by Sebby
Is it not the light sensor adjusting the screen brightness??
Yes it is! I had no idea about this feature. Brilliant, thanks.
Posted by jmcomms
I went to the SE/3 K770i launch tonight (a purple phone exclusive for 3) where the Sugababes were performing, and Peaches Geldof was DJ, and I took about 40 pictures.
Only 6 or 7 actually came out because the flash never fired on the others! Showed some high-up people at SE who concluded that phone number two is even more faulty than the last one! It seems apparent than the Xenon flash isn't charging up on this one in most cases.
I also demonstrated a few of the known bugs (I can now make the phone reboot on command by trying to send/receive email or download settings) and they seemed surprised. Looks like I'll have phone number three before the weekend (meanwhile, I'm seriously considering going back to my W880i).
Firmware updates are one thing, but how much of these problems are hardware (flash not charging, touch buttons not responding...) ???
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Posted by marinedisco
On 2007-10-25 02:19:21, jmcomms wrote:
I went to the SE/3 K770i launch tonight (a purple phone exclusive for 3) where the Sugababes were performing, and Peaches Geldof was DJ, and I took about 40 pictures.
Only 6 or 7 actually came out because the flash never fired on the others! Showed some high-up people at SE who concluded that phone number two is even more faulty than the last one! It seems apparent than the Xenon flash isn't charging up on this one in most cases.
I also demonstrated a few of the known bugs (I can now make the phone reboot on command by trying to send/receive email or download settings) and they seemed surprised. Looks like I'll have phone number three before the weekend (meanwhile, I'm seriously considering going back to my W880i).
Firmware updates are one thing, but how much of these problems are hardware (flash not charging, touch buttons not responding...) ???
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[ This Message was edited by: jmcomms on 2007-10-25 01:20 ]
Did you happen to mention to them the "Dusty lens cover"? I am not too worried about the firmware problems as I think they will be fixed. Like you I am more concerned how long it will take to fix the hardware?
[ This Message was edited by: marinedisco on 2007-10-25 01:46 ]
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