Posted by mwarner
K850 Firmware Overview
Each firmware revision listed below contains the fixes listed against that revision plus the fixes of all the firmwares below that entry.
R1FA035
- Released on SEUS starting 18/6/08
Improvements / Changes
- Startup time is 2-3 seconds faster than previous firmwares
- Improved battery life
- Improved performance
- Reduction in crashes
- Audio synchronisation issues for MP4s have been resolved
- Update feature in Media has been added
- Improved accelerometer sensitivity
Bugs / Issues
- When using File Manager you can no longer select files by typing in the first letters of the filename
Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 447
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 434
- JBenchmark 2: 906
- JBenchmark 1: 6434
Software versions:
EROM: 1200-4341
LCD: 200712121
Camera: 3.7
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA18
Java: 8.2.1
Text: BO
R1EA037
- Released on SEUS starting 12/4/08
Improvements / Changes
- Improved Media Player UI speed.
- Updated Text software revision.
- Connection icon in java apps has been re-added.
Bug fixes
- A cause of crashes in Photomate has been fixed.
Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 438
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 427
- JBenchmark 2: 940
- JBenchmark 1: 6829
Software versions:
EROM: 1200-4341
LCD: 200712121
Camera: 3.7
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA18
Java: 8.2
Text: BD
R1EC001
- Released on SEUS 12/3/08 (ORANGE UK only)
Improvements / Changes
- Updated Content software revision.
Software versions:
EROM: 1200-4341
LCD: 200712121
Camera: 3.7
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA18
Java: 8.2
Text: BB
R1EA031
- Released on EMMA 15/02/08
- Released on SEUS starting 21/2/08
Improvements / Changes
- General User Interface performance improvements.
- Notable performance improvements with the Media Centre User Interface.
- Improved sound quality & volume from Media Player.
- Improved transition effects in the photo viewer.
- Photo Fix option now available in photo viewer (previously this was only available just after the photo was taken).
- Faster bootup sequence compared to previous firmwares (25 seconds rather than 35)
- Key response menu added in Settings -> Sounds & alerts, allowing the selection of sound or vibrate when pressing the touch sensitive buttons.
- List view added for messages.
- The ability to select HSDPA as your preferred communications protocol has been added to Menu Settings -> Mobile Networks -> GSM/3G networks
- The Video Player's audio synchronisation / stuttering issues are still present, but have a different profile to previous firmwares.
- Numerous icon changes have been made, e.g. Email->Settings->POP 3 & SMTP, call 'busy' icon, Aa, aa, 123 icon background etc.
- When listening to music on a Bluetooth headset the music fades down (but not back in again) on receipt of a text message.
- Phone warning and error tones now play through any connected Bluetooth headset.
- The light can now be switched on and off when recording video.
Bug fixes
- Fixes battery longevity issues introduced in R1DA038
- Equaliser now remembers custom settings.
- The zoom buttons no longer change the volume when zooming into a picture if you are listening to music in the background.
- Fixes for Bluetooth compatibility on certain devices, e.g. Audi & Mercedes car bluetooth modules & the SE Bluetooth watch.
- Prevent some boot issues due to Java Script errors.
- Faster satelite fix with the HGE-100 GPS accessory.
- Switching to camera snapshot view mode no longer opens the lens cover.
- Fixed the lens cover opening when the camera was turned on in "silde show" mode (camera switch under play position).
- Fixed the bug preventing users from getting out of screensaver mode if they were displaying pictures by putting the camera switch in the Play position and the screensaver cut in.
- Fixed colour / pixel distortion on progress bar while displaying a 'please wait' pop up window.
Bugs / Issues
- The Blue Ring Of Death (BROD), named after the blue lights around the camera lighting up and the phone becoming totally unresponsive unless a full firmware flash is performed, can occur with this firmware.
- Adding a theme that customises the Media Player causes the background to turn black if rotated into Landscape mode. This did not occur in previous firmwares.
- Java applications that use an Internet connection no longer display the internet connection icon when connected.
- Folder quick search no longer works correctly in sub folders.
Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 445
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 431
- JBenchmark 2: 932
- JBenchmark 1: 6103
Software versions:
EROM: 1200-4341
LCD: 200712121
Camera: 3.7
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA17
Java: 8.2
Text: BB
R1DA039
- '3' network branded version of R1DA038
R1DA038
- Released on SEUS starting 21/12/07
Improvements / Changes
- SMS/MMS icon changes
- Media Player modifications and speed improvements
- Java benchmarks show significant speed improvements
- Updated Camera driver
- Updated Java engine
Bugs / Issues
- Battery life seems to have been reduced with this firmware revision.
Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 441
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 430
- JBenchmark 2: 950
- JBenchmark 1: 5802
Software versions:
EROM: R6A008
LCD: 200703291
Camera: 3.4
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA17
Java: 8.1
Text: AP
R1CA037
- Released to SE Service Centres around 25/10/07
- Released on SEUS starting 3/12/07 (Nordic)
Improvements / Changes
- The Media player speed has been increased when dealing with many entries.
- Java benchmarks show speed improvements
- Added the ability to save messages to the Memory card in Messaging -> Settings -> General.
Bug fixes
- Improved flash synchronization, preventing photos taken in dark conditions from coming out as very dark or black.
- Prevent some boot issues due to Java Script errors.
Bugs
- Shuffle functionality in the Media Player repeats the same track until you manually skip to the next.
Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 96
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 199
- JBenchmark 2: 926
- JBenchmark 1: 5913
Software versions:
EROM: R6A008
LCD: 200708241
Camera: 2.9
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA13
Java: 8.0
Text: AC
R1CA029
- First release
Bugs
- The flash doesn't always sync with the image capture, leaving dark or black photos in night conditions.
- Manual equaliser settings are not remembered when exiting and then returning to the media player.
- Play/Pause and FF/RW controls on HPM-82 do not work
- FF/RW controls on DS-980 skip tracks, but cannot be used to FF/RW (Note that the Play/Pause button does work with DS-980)
- Trying to continue music playback, after phoning out using the DS-980, fails.
- Phone can crash when using HPM-82
- Phone can crash whilst in standby mode, requiring a hard reboot (taking the battery out)
- Corruption of the file system can occur affecting photos, applications etc
- Alarms only produce three beeps on some phones rather than play the selected ringtone.
- Some Video playback is out of sync with the sound
- USB photo transfer can lead to duplicated pictures / removal of other pictures present on the phone
- Video is of lower quality than the K800
- Occasional second or so delay between the vibration of an incomming text/call and screen illumination.
- Audiobook functionaility cannot be accessed
- If the phone goes into standby whilst viewing photos, resuming the phone isn't possible unless you exit this mode.
- When you connect the phone via the usb cable, You cant see the ringtone folder
- Phone doesnt support some Mp4 files and doesnt support some jpeg photos.
- On some phones the shutter ocasionally fails to open when taking a photo
- Not all symbols are possible to enter in the email client settings, e.g. not allowing you from adding a : for gmail addresses.
- The zoom buttons both zoom into a picture and change the volume if you are listening to music whilst browsing pictures.
- On some phones, the volume keys do not respond, requiring a reboot to restore functionaility.
- On some phones, adding a birthday to a contact does not give you a chance to add it to the Calendar.
- 8Gb Micro SDHC cards are not recognized when the phone is MTP mode.
- Playing a video clip whilst listening to music exits the music player. On the K800 the music would fade back in after the video has finished playing.
Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 103
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 193
- JBenchmark 2: 733
- JBenchmark 1: 4209
Software versions:
EROM: R6A008
LCD: 200708241
Camera: 2.9
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA13
Java: 8.0
Text: AC
Accessing Firmware Information
To find out which firmware revision your phone currently has installed, select Menu > Settings > General > Update service > Software version. For more detailed software versioning information, perform the following:
>*<<*<*
Where < and > represents clicking the D-Pad left and right keys respectively.
In addition to the software information available, further information about the phone (Serial number, Build Year and Week number) is available via a pull out card. See the following post for photos showing how to access this card.
Sony Ericsson Update Service
The firmware of the K850 can be upgraded either over the air by selecting Settings / Update Service / Search for update or via the more traditional (and potentially cheaper) method of the Sony Ericsson Update Service. In order to use SEUS you will need to have internet access (preferably Broadband) and attach your phone to your PC via the supplied USB cable.
If you run into problems, you may wish to download and install Sun's Java Runtime Environment separately.
If the firmware update fails part way through, retry the SEUS. If the update consistently fails you will need to perform a Master Reset on your phone. It is likely that you will be required to perform a Reset All - a settings reset is unlikely to do the job. It is recommended to use a tool such as MyPhoneExplorer to create a backup of the data on your phone before performing a Master Reset. Note that you will still lose any games, themes or ringtones present in your phone's memory.
SEUS will currently install the following firmware revisions for UK phone brands:
K850
Unbranded UK (CDA102511/2) - R1EA037
O2 UK (CDA102511/41) - R1EA037
Vodafone UK (CDA102511/15) - R1DA038
Orange UK (CDA102511/47) - R1DA038
3 UK (CDA102511/69) - R1EA037
T-Mobile (CDA102511/12) - R1DA038
Third Party Update Services
Third party firmware updates are available from DaVinci Team, Kulan Kendi & Total GSM. The use of third party solutions will theoretically void your warranty (although in practice the phone vendor is unlikely to notice) so should only be used in preference to SEUS for debranding purposes or updating a problematic phone locked out of SEUS by the service provider.
Drivers
Drivers for all current Sony Ericsson phones can be downloaded from EMMA.
Other Sony Ericsson Firmware Overviews
K800
K750 / W800
K700 / K500
T610 / T630
[ This Message was edited by: mwarner on 2008-07-10 15:05 ]
Posted by Duran
How come it scores so much worse than the k800 in the benchmarks?
Posted by aremaboy
As usual mwarner, I'll be a constant reader here!
[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-10-18 09:46 ]
Posted by aremaboy
As of now WotanServer has no support for this new platform. I sent an email to them and they replied that due to the new platform, they had no ETA for K850i.
[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-10-18 09:46 ]
Posted by Mike2
ETA = Estimated Time of Arival
[ This Message was edited by: Mike2 on 2007-10-16 16:28 ]
Posted by weasley
any soft can change CDA at the moment for K850i?
Posted by mr_lou
On 2007-10-16 17:02:29, Duran wrote:
How come it scores so much worse than the k800 in the benchmarks?
I'm quite curious about that as well. Looks a bit odd to me, unless it's milliseconds, so that it means that the K850 does it in less time.
[ This Message was edited by: mr_lou on 2007-10-16 16:55 ]
Posted by mwarner
Yes, I was rather suprised at the benchmark numbers - certainly slower than the K800, which I guess explains why the UI is more sluggish.
Posted by -Ryan-
The O2 UK firmware is incorrect? My phone is O2 UK branded, and yet it displays R1CA029 as the firmware, with no updates available through SEUS. Is the one you are showing a firmware that is newly released since Sunday?
Posted by Duran
On 2007-10-16 18:12:17, mwarner wrote:
Yes, I was rather suprised at the benchmark numbers - certainly slower than the K800, which I guess explains why the UI is more sluggish.
It is? i remember gsmarena (or mobilereview) stating that the UI was a tat speedier
Posted by mwarner
The UI is definately less responsive & the animations not as smooth as the K800.
Updated the first post with the initial bugs I have found - comments from current users of the phone are more than welcome.
Posted by darrengf
There is another bug which i known has been posted a couple of times and i have checked a few phones for this issue which they do have
Some Video playback is out of sync with the sound (Aprox 3-5 seconds) Video is sluggish too.
The Flash does sometimes does discharge early before the photo is shot, so this may be causing the dark pics that people mention?
There is a Bug in trying to download of the Fun and dowloads of the SE through your phone. The Free software either says phone isnt compatible or error when trying to download, same with the free games.
I think this is more the site than the phone, but it has been reported to Se and confirmed with a few K850i's on different networks having the same problem.
Hope this helps
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-10-16 22:16 ]
Posted by chrisdaniels
Definate bugs in this first version of O2 firmware.
Got mine on friday, and on a journey down to London yesterday had a good while to play with it.
First Impressions:
Sometimes when receiving a call or text, the phone will vibrate and about 2 seconds later the screen will come to life to show who it is.. not good
When listening to media player and writing texts, the bottom menu colouring is corrupt. (maybe the theme i am using)
Volume buttons failed to respond in media player once. Had to restart.
When using media player, the whole phone responds very slowly at times.
Crashed once in camera mode while altering some settings.
I have also had the dark photo problem, but i think this is because of the poor placement of the light sensor. There is a leaflet in the box Re correct usage.
Also, taking video in a nightclub even with AF light on results in dark video.
I hope they release a new firmware soon..because otherwise this phone is the best one yet
[ This Message was edited by: chrisdaniels on 2007-10-16 22:36 ]
Posted by darrengf
[quote]
On 2007-10-16 23:29:49, chrisdaniels wrote:
Deffinate bugs in this first version of O2 firmware.
Got mine on friday, and on a journey down to London yesterday had a good while to play with it.
Sometimes when receiving a call or text, the phone will vibrate and a second later the screen will come to life to show who it is
** Ive noticed his my self and forgot to mention it **
When listening to media player and writing texts, the bottom menu is colouring is corrupt.
** I havnt had that yet, however some of my pics have been corrupt **
One thing i have noticed which i think its a quirk. When you unlock the phone, (from the black screen)
The top half the keypad comes on for a second before the bottom half. Any one noticed this?
This is not a bug but a request SE. Please can we have the Option to view the clock in standby. Im sick of pressing a button to see if i have a message. Pretty please
Posted by max_wedge
I second that request!
Pretty pretty please with sugar on top?
Posted by rockygali
[quote]
On 2007-10-16 23:36:54, darrengf wrote:
On 2007-10-16 23:29:49, chrisdaniels wrote:
This is not a bug but a request SE. Please can we have the Option to view the clock in standby. Im sick of pressing a button to see if i have a message. Pretty please
wot do you mean by that?! on K750 & K800/810 when you want to view your clock on standby, press volume buttons and the screen will light up but not showing your phone standby screen but the clock. is that what you mean?
or doesnt the k850 have that one already?
if so, i guess we should ask
to make a light functions as a reminder if we have an unread SMS message, or an unanswered CALL.
keypad lights should blink once every 30secs something like that.
Posted by Prom1
On 2007-10-16 23:36:54, darrengf wrote:
This is not a bug but a request SE. Please can we have the Option to view the clock in standby. Im sick of pressing a button to see if i have a message. Pretty please
Well even the standby clock on my K790a is barely effective because the screen auto dims so well that I often DO press a volume button to light it up. This is within subway and florescent lighting.
Personally I'd rather have the STAPLE of all :ericsson: and
phones to return : Status screen.
However ... why is it when SE makes 2 models for different regions that slightly differ in settings ... this FORUM ONLY has information on " 1 " of the two???!?!?!
K800 & K790a/i BOTH are VERY well sold across the world and BOTH should be considered when posted a good thread for information. Yet all too often this doesn't happen.
SOrry to the thread OP about taking this kind of fit here but I do appreciate the work you do - its just fustrating and one sided in other threads - one's I don't have bookmarked to post this reply on.
back on top ...
When is the next firmware update?
Posted by max_wedge
clock in sleep mode is missing from K850 UI. I agree with Prom1 that it's not always visible, but it often is and I find it very useful.
The answer is to have a brighter clock in sleep mode - just the numbers a bit whiter, it would effect battery life hardly at all.
Posted by mwarner
It pains me to say this, buy the K850 is a bit of a disappointment for me, especially compared to previous platform advances (K610, K700, K750, K800) where the functionaility was at least as good as it's predecessor and there were solid advances in the platform. The sort of things I mean are:
- D Pad usability
- Lack of Pause/Resume button on the phone - especially as this doesn't function on the HPM-82 either!
- Inferior flash photography to K800
- No standby clock / information
- Noticably slower UI
- Inferior benchmarks, indicating a slower CPU
These shortcomings wouldn't be such a problem if there were significant platform advances, but there's not really a lot in this release apart from the new media player, which is OK but far less usable due to the lack of instantly accesible Play/Pause functionailty!
Posted by Duran
why would they use a SLOWER cpu??
I really hope its all in the firmware...
Posted by max_wedge
On 2007-10-17 10:29:58, mwarner wrote:
It pains me to say this, buy the K850 is a bit of a disappointment for me, especially compared to previous platform advances (K610, K700, K750, K800) where the functionaility was at least as good as it's predecessor and there were solid advances in the platform. The sort of things I mean are:
- D Pad usability
- Lack of Pause/Resume button on the phone - especially as this doesn't function on the HPM-82 either!
- Inferior flash photography to K800
- No standby clock / information
- Noticably slower UI
- Inferior benchmarks, indicating a slower CPU
These shortcomings wouldn't be such a problem if there were significant platform advances, but there's not really a lot in this release apart from the new media player, which is OK but far less usable due to the lack of instantly accesible Play/Pause functionailty!
I'm excited about K850, but the initial reports of slowness are worrying. Though it is possibly just firmware problems.
I can live with the lack of sleep mode clock, but I'm a little worried about the missing pause button. Perhaps music can be paused some other way, it seems quite bizzare to remove the pause button. I can only assume this is more of an effort to differentiate Walkman and Cybershot models. It's really stupid because it turns a device that can be used for three main purposes (phone, camera, and mp3player) into a much more limited device. All for the sake of ONE little button and stupid branding games.
I have no problem with branding through styling, infact I like the cybershot branding, but functionality should be kept well out of the equation.
Posted by mwarner
> why would they use a SLOWER cpu??
Presumably for reduced power consumption or reduced cost. Usually this gets done automatically by the CPU manufacturer using a smaller process, but perhaps not this year!
> I'm a little worried about the missing pause button. Perhaps
> music can be paused some other way
Me too - I could live with it if my HPM-82's Play/Pause and FF/RW buttons worked, but they doesn't - only the volume!
> I can only assume this is more of an effort to differentiate Walkman
> and Cybershot models.
I tend to agree. It seems odd in my eyes to put in a more advanced media player and then have no readily accesible control mechanism for it! I will be mightily pissed off if it is a deliberate move to stop the Play/Pause buttons working on external headphones to force you to use the Walkman branded phones.
Mike
Posted by darrengf
Well after using the phone more and more and using other K850i's I and a few collegues have come accross just a few more problems with the current firmware.
1) If you recevie a voice mail, you are notified that a voice mail message has been left on the main screen, however the voice mail icon on the screen doesnt show. (O2) not tried on another network yet.
2) When you connect the phone via the usb cable, You cant see the ringtone folder (Not on o2 phones any way)
3) Phone doesnt support Mp4 tunes and doesnt support some jpeg photos. Both K750, K800 does support these as this is where they have come from.
4) When the phone is connected to USB. On trasnfering a picture, the picture has duplicated it 4 times and over rid one of the original SE photos.
5), The flash Def doesnt always sink when the pic has ben taken, or the flash doesnt always go of (Confirmed on other K850i's)
6) I can also confirm that sometimes the Shutter doesnt always open. On sime phones its fine and on others it just doesnt open all the time (o2 phones as well)
If there are any others I will post asap.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-10-17 14:01 ]
Posted by -Ryan-
God, I'll add my support for the standby clock. Why it was removed is a complete mystery. Obviously the development department wasn't quite on form.
Posted by darrengf
I think that we need to email SE regarding the stand by clock.
Not that it will do any good as it never does. But i think they should have given us the option for us to switch it on and of.
Posted by tomchadwin
This all worries me. I presumed I'd be getting a K850 straight away, but two things concern me. Can people give further details of these two issues:
1. Is video playback really worse than the K800? I use my phone for watching M3-ripped DVDs more than anything else - does anyone know what bitrates work on the K850?
2. MP4 audio is not supported?! You have GOT to be kidding me! You mean it cannot play HE-AACv2 files? I have loads of albums ripped with M3 to .m4a on my K800. Will these not work?
Thanks for any further info
Tom
Posted by darrengf
On 2007-10-17 15:00:35, tomchadwin wrote:
This all worries me. I presumed I'd be getting a K850 straight away, but two things concern me. Can people give further details of these two issues:
1. Is video playback really worse than the K800? I use my phone for watching M3-ripped DVDs more than anything else - does anyone know what bitrates work on the K850?
2. MP4 audio is not supported?! You have GOT to be kidding me! You mean it cannot play HE-AACv2 files? I have loads of albums ripped with M3 to .m4a on my K800. Will these not work?
Thanks for any further info
Tom
1. ** The video quality is worse no doubt about that. (Clarity is worse) but the speed is fine. Speach is fine but about 5 seconds out from the picture on most formats
2.**The phone currenlty says, this file is not supported and you get to choose skip the file or skip all. ** ** But we havnt tried all formats **
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-10-17 14:06 ]
Posted by rosco
I have a load of .m4a tracks on my memory card (transferred via bluetooth from my mac) and they all work fine.
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[ This Message was edited by: rosco on 2007-10-17 15:01 ]
Posted by chrisdaniels
I find the video is far better quality than the k800. You just need to get the bit rates right.
Has anyone prompted SE to this forum yet?
Posted by Duran
Oh yeh the phone's got more features, more MP cam etc but SE decides to put a slower CPU in it? wtf is wrong with them?
Sluggish UI is one of the biggest reasons for me to stay away from a phone..
Posted by the_trev
hello all, first time poster but something i had to add
i got this phone on the monday, and noticed pretty much the same issue with the sleep mode timer. but something caught my eye yesterday whilst locking the phone, something which makes me believe that the lack of the clock wasn't a choice they made, but rather a design fault. the reason i say this is because i actually saw the clock for about a second!
i've tried to replicate it with no luck, but as an educated guess the issue is not with the lack of a clock, but rather that the screen completely switches itself off not giving the opportunity for the clock to show. the solution to this would obviously be something in a new firmware update, but alas i don't know of any active way to report bugs to SE.
just in case anyone would like to know, the phone is on VFUK.
Posted by happykhan
@ max_wedge & mwarner
About the play/pause button:
I just had an idea:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=155369
What do you say???
Posted by kimot01
On 2007-10-17 16:03:57, Duran wrote:
Oh yeh the phone's got more features, more MP cam etc but SE decides to put a slower CPU in it? wtf is wrong with them?
Sluggish UI is one of the biggest reasons for me to stay away from a phone..
it has the same processor as k800/k810
they should put a processor as fast as the razr 2 v8
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Posted by -Ryan-
On 2007-10-17 16:12:17, the_trev wrote:
hello all, first time poster but something i had to add
i got this phone on the monday, and noticed pretty much the same issue with the sleep mode timer. but something caught my eye yesterday whilst locking the phone, something which makes me believe that the lack of the clock wasn't a choice they made, but rather a design fault. the reason i say this is because i actually saw the clock for about a second!
i've tried to replicate it with no luck, but as an educated guess the issue is not with the lack of a clock, but rather that the screen completely switches itself off not giving the opportunity for the clock to show. the solution to this would obviously be something in a new firmware update, but alas i don't know of any active way to report bugs to SE.
just in case anyone would like to know, the phone is on VFUK.
It was probably because the clock *is* there...Just you have to push the volume/zoom buttons up or down to see it. It hasn't been removed entirely, just in the way it used to be able to be viewed while the screen was off apart from the clock.
Posted by the_trev
aha, yes, false alarm. sorry
would love to push SE for any news....
Posted by chrisdaniels
Official Sony Ericsson Developer Forum Bug Reports:
http://developer.sonyericsson[....]age.jspa?messageID=59803#59803
Posted by Mizzle
Am very impressed by the yet small list of bugs on the K850. Seems they've tested it and A200 very nicely - only small bugs imo.
Btw, it's the fastest CPU ever before used in a feature phone from
[ This Message was edited by: thecoolsha on 2007-10-17 18:13 ]
Posted by tranced
did you all notice that this firmware version(R1CA029) is similar to k750's R1CA021?
well, all phones in their releases have something wrong? but this is supposed to be a K flagship. dissapointing, imo. let's wait more firmwares for the future.
Posted by mwarner
> Btw, it's the fastest CPU ever before used in a feature phone from SE
I would be interested to see a white paper or something that confirms this. It seems odd that benchmark numbers are lower and the UI speed is lower when the resolution of the screen is the same as the K800.
Posted by darrengf
On 2007-10-17 19:12:35, tranced wrote:
did you all notice that this firmware version(R1CA029) is similar to k750's R1CA021?
well, all phones in their releases have something wrong? but this is supposed to be a K flagship. dissapointing, imo. let's wait more firmwares for the future.
I was just saying that at work this afternoon. " This takes me back to having my K750i when i had lots of fun "
Posted by mwarner
Updated the first post with DarrenGF's latest bugs. Thanks Darren!!
> I was just saying that at work this afternoon. " This takes me
> back to having my K750i when i had lots of fun "
Heh heh ... that is one way of looking at it! Personally I am considering sending it back to O2 and waiting for another interesting phone to be released, which is not like me at all - I love playing with new SE platforms, but this one lacks some of the basic functionaility I am used to with the previous generation platform.
Posted by darrengf
On 2007-10-17 20:23:30, mwarner wrote:
Updated the first post with DarrenGF's latest bugs. Thanks Darren!!
> I was just saying that at work this afternoon. " This takes me
> back to having my K750i when i had lots of fun "
Heh heh ... that is one way of looking at it! Personally I am considering sending it back to O2 and waiting for another interesting phone to be released, which is not like me at all - I love playing with new SE platforms, but this one lacks some of the basic functionaility I am used to with the previous generation platform.
Nah dont do that.
It is interesting, You havnt had this much fun since the K700-K750i with all the bugs.
I do agree though I was expecting a little more, But i still like the phone any how
Posted by apotts
It seems that setting the stabiliser on causes the camera to ignore the ISO setting you have given it. It also disables the focus assist triple LED.
In the following pic, the black text is what I have set in the menus (and is reflected by the little icons). The red text is what the camera actually did when the photo was taken.
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Posted by mwarner
It's interesting to see that on SE's site my HPM-82 is considered compatible with the K850 - maybe all is not lost and a future firmware will enable the functionality of the remote. My only concern is that they have considered that remote control is now only for W series phones and will never be enabled for newly released K series phones.
Does anyone have a more modern headset with remote control, e.g. HPM-90, HBS-DS970/980 etc to find out whether they are fully compatible?
Posted by h901
i got a generic unbranded k850i
how do find out the CDA or whateva
i no its the > * < < * < *
but then where and where is it exactly written
also hope they give us the option to change the left softkey to something other than media
and a media player update with a refresh option (can't seem to completely remove the plutonium track from the phone it stays in meida player)
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-10-17 20:11:39, mwarner wrote:
> Btw, it's the fastest CPU ever before used in a feature phone from SE
I would be interested to see a white paper or something that confirms this. It seems odd that benchmark numbers are lower and the UI speed is lower when the resolution of the screen is the same as the K800.
A200 requires more processing power, which is why it scores worse.
Posted by tranced
On 2007-10-17 22:03:15, h901 wrote:
i got a generic unbranded k850i
how do find out the CDA or whateva
i no its the > * < < * < *
but then where and where is it exactly written
Posted by h901
@ tranced
hm.......
it doesnt say the CDA on the box of the phone just checked
but in the service info and then software info and then scroll down to customisation
it says R1CA029 but no CDA??
Posted by tranced
oops. well, my bad then. thought it were there.
Posted by jmcomms
1) I've now got "Operation Failed" when I try and go to Applications or Games (also means I can't install any new content). Seems that this means the file system is corrupt. Even master reset doesn't work. Sorry, but having had it for less than 48 hours I am NOT going to start messing around trying to reflash the blasted thing!!
2) You can't enter all symbols in the email client for settings, so for Google Mail (where you need to enter recent:username@gmail.com), you must go into notes, enter :, go to copy all, exit, go back to email, open settings and then paste in the data. It seems SE figured you would only need a few characters, but not all usernames are plain letters and numbers.
3) If you're listening to music, and view the camera album, using the zoom buttons (i.e. volume) means it adjusts the volume at the same time it zooms in and out! Cue no music, or eardrum busting music!
4) Not so much a bug, but an oversight; the touch sensitive buttons frequently stop responding, or there's a delay. On some menus you might have something like "Send & Receive", which then changes to "Cancel". It's possible to see that it will do the chosen task, then immediately cancel the process because it's responded twice. This is bad UI design.
I'm sure I'll find more in due course...
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