Posted by Sainty
I thought I would start a thread with any information about debranding a K850i.
I did this for the UIQ3 phones and it worked well: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=130758
Does anyone know if its possible yet? Any information at all will be appriciated
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Posted by aremaboy
It's unavailable as of now.
Posted by Sainty
Have in the past hour debranded my phone using Davinciteam to R1CA029 CDA1201-9794, and then used FOTA to update to R1CA037!
Worked really well, first thing I noticed straight away is the photos seem to save much quicker!
Posted by Terminatorak
Please could someone explain the benefits of debranding? I have an O2 branded K850i and have heard alot of people wanting to unbrand their K850i's however I don't know why.
Posted by Marc_SE
Debranding allows you to get the latest firmware as it's released by SE.
Operators will normally give you branded handsets. With these, they approve firmwares as they're released. In some instances, they don't approve firmware and you're stuck with the firmware they give you i.e. different icons, some functionality disabled, etc.
Posted by Terminatorak
Oh yeh, i understand, thanks for the explanation.
Posted by DonJuan
On 2007-11-24 16:36:12, Sainty wrote:
Have in the past hour debranded my phone using Davinciteam to R1CA029 CDA1201-9794, and then used FOTA to update to R1CA037!
Worked really well, first thing I noticed straight away is the photos seem to save much quicker!
im just about to do this, which one do you go for though, im confused...
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9791 O2 UK/BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9799 MOBILKOM A1 AT/ BLUE VFE-LIVE-A
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1201-9841 WIND GR/VELVET BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0154 CUSTOMIZED HONG KONG/ GREEN HONG-KONG
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0156 CUSTOMIZED HONG KONG/ BLUE HONG-KONG
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0168 BITE LITHUANIA/ VELVET BLUE BALTIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0176 TELEFONICA O2 CZ/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0197 CUSTOMIZED AR/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0215 MOVISTAR CL/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0226 TELEMNOVIL SV/ GREEN AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-0229 DIGICEL JM/ GREEN JAMAICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-1842 CUSTOMIZED GREECE/ GREEN ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1202-5311 CUSTOMIZED ZA/ BLUE S-CENTR-AFR
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-0266 CUSTOMIZED AR/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-0513 BOBITEL SI/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1203-9068 TELENOR RS/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-3635 SINGTEL SG/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-3636 SINGTEL SG/ GREEN APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-5123 SI MOBIL SI/ GREEN VFE-LIVE-B
K850i R1CA037 CID52 K850 1204-6333 VIRGIN MOBILE UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
oh and how many credits do you need to install the latest firmware?
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Posted by Sainty
I went for this one as its the UK Generic firmware for the Blue trimmed handset:
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
It costs €10/£7.50 which is for 10 credits which is all you need to change to the above firmware
Posted by glorfingal
an aside for those lucky enough to have O2 handsets.
They don't normally have much (if any) branding on them, unlike say
Orange or Vodafone. They are generally unlocked too !
Posted by DonJuan
I dont see a generic one for the US, thats my problem
Posted by EddieAdams
@Don Juan
Pardon me if I'm wrong but, isn't de-branding and unlocking the same thing? Or similiar. If you purchased it unlocked , then I believe it is already de-branded. They're trying to remove any software their network provider has put on the phone and restore it to its original/unlocked state. Unless there is a network in vegas that released this phone, yours should be completely un-branded already. I could be misinformed.
Posted by DonJuan
yeah i see what your saying but i want to do this so i can get the latest software, get rid of some of the bugs you see if i flash it to the other software, you see?
Posted by EddieAdams
K i see. So the software listed above is a later/ better version than SEUS? Not pretending to know more than I do. Just was my take on it.
Posted by >500
i looked yesterday, but didnt notice any generic firmwares on Davinci's site, or are the customized firmwares the generic ones?
Which one should i chose to de-brand my voda version? remembering im in australia.....
ta
Posted by Terminatorak
I don't think DaVinci have generic firmwares atm, just custom ones. (For the K850i)
Posted by darrengf
Davinci do have some generic ones, but these are still R1CA029
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9782 CUSTOMIZED DE/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9794 CUSTOMIZED UK/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9804 CUSTOMIZED CH/BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9807 CUST FR/BLUE FRANCE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9819 CUSTOMIZED BAL/BLUE BALTIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9827 CUSTOMIZED GR/ BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1201-9832 CUSTOMIZED RU/ BLUE RUSSIA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0025 CUSTOMIZED MENAL/ BLUE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0026 CUSTOMIZED MENAA/ BLUE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0027 CUSTOMIZED MENAA/ GREEN S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0028 CUSTOMIZED TH/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0029 CUSTOMIZED IN (INDIA)/VELVET BLUE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0030 CUSTOMIZED ID/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0032 CUST TW/BLUE TAIWAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0035 CUSTOMIZED TH/ GREEN APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0036 CUSTOMIZED ID/ GREEN APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0037 CUST TW/GREEN TAIWAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0045 CUSTOMIZED IN (INDIA)/LUMINOUS GREE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0199 CUSTOMIZED BRAZIL/ BLUE AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0489 CUSTOMIZED RU/ GREEN RUSSIA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0512 CUSTOMIZED SG/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0989 CUSTOMIZED SG/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-4082 CUST DE/GREEN WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-4087 CUSTOMIZED PT/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-5310 CUSTOMIZED NIGERIA/ BLUE S-CENTR-AFR
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-5614 CUSTOMIZED EU/ BLUE ADRIATIC
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-6619 CUSTOMIZED UA/ GREEN S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-8494 CUSTOMIZED AU/BLUE APAC-ANZ
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-9336 CUSTOMIZED CEU/ GREEN CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-9337 CUSTOMIZED CEU/ BLUE CENTRAL-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-0267 CUSTOMIZED LAM AMERICA
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-2590 CUSTOMIZED UK/ GREEN WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-6664 CUSTOMIZED BENELUX/ BLUE WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1203-6665 CUSTOMIZED BENELUX/ GREEN WESTERN-EUROPE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1204-0183 CUSTOMIZED MENAA/ GREEN S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1204-0419 CUSTOMIZED MENAA/ BLUE S-ASIA-LEVAN
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1204-7176 CUST FR/LUMINOUS GREEN FRANCE
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1204-9075 CUSTOMIZED CH/LUMINOUS GREEN ADRIATIC
Hope this helps
Posted by >500
what exactly are 'custom' firmwares?
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Posted by darrengf
Custom firmwares are generic firmware with no network branding at all.
So you get the phone how SE made it
Posted by Terminatorak
I'm not 100% sure but I think they are firmwares made by 3rd parties or people not associated with SE or a network, so they may have 'customised' branding or no branding. Could be wrong though as I have never tried it myself...
Posted by darrengf
Cust firmwares are made by SE for Generic Unbranded phones.
That means no network has had there hands on the firmware and changed anything
Posted by glorfingal
they appear to be (when put onto a phone) more like the "Generic Trade"
ones we had before .... the "customized UK blue" one has internet
settings for various UK providers e.g. t-mobile, O2, Vodafone.
I used one to generalise my k850i then FOTA'd to 037.
Posted by darrengf
Normaly the Cust Uk ones or any country that has cust ones do come complete with the main 5 networks mms and wap settings
Se have done this since the K800 a year or so ago.
Posted by >500
which firmware recommend do you suggest i use to debrand my phone darren? One which wont affect my network (by that i mean, i can still use the internet properly, and send mms/sms properly)
I can use the Australian Optus one, though it still has a little branding, optus internet icon on main screen and one in main menu. But they dont change the icons like voda do. but id prefer a full unbranded one...
so any suggestions?
Posted by darrengf
On 2007-11-25 12:41:38, >500 wrote:
which firmware recommend do you suggest i use to debrand my phone darren? One which wont affect my network (by that i mean, i can still use the internet properly, and send mms/sms properly)
I can use the Australian Optus one, though it still has a little branding, optus internet icon on main screen and one in main menu. But they dont change the icons like voda do. but id prefer a full unbranded one...
so any suggestions?
The Generic one for Australia i can see on Davinci list is
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-8494 CUSTOMIZED AU/BLUE APAC-ANZ
However that may not have settings for Optus, Some countries dont put them in, so you may either have to go on the SE site to have them sent to the phone or contact Optus, but im not 100%
At present i think you would have this one?
K850i R1CA029 CID52 K850 1202-0041 OPTUS AU/ BLUE APAC-ANZ
Is there a problem with the branding you currenlty have as you said Optus dont do much with the branding?
Dont forget that general if you debrand your phone im not sure if you invalidate the warranty in the country you live in, also if anything happens sometimes SE service centers dont always repair them, I have read many people on here having this problem although its normaly other countries
I have debranded mine on many occasions when i was on Orange as i hated the branding, but im now on O2 so Norm dont debrand any more as o2 only change on menu from play now to the o2 logo and i can live with that
Dont forget Drebranding is at your own risk, so please ensure you read and fully understand everything before going ahead if you want
I hope this helps
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Posted by >500
yeah im not fussed with the warranty issue, the service centre here never picks it up
. I have the vodafone version, but i could change it to optus, though the phone which have Optus logo in menus as i said in previous post. But prefer full unbranded one, and not fussed if its not the new firmware, i can update later on on SEUS. Though do i have to change the CDA? Will SEUS change my phone back to Vodafone firmware if i dont change the cda as well?
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Posted by darrengf
If you debrand your phone using Davinci then the CDA changes with the brand, so updating your phone will only replace the software with the latest version and not vodafone or optus version.
Are your phones Sim Free in Australia?
Posted by >500
by simfree you mean unlocked correct? Only 3 and Voda phones come locked, but can get the unlock code free from 3, just need to call them, and voda ones we just go online and enter the IMEI number and it gives the code.
Telstra and Optus have fairly similar branding to o2 over there, and come unlocked (contract phones only) ..... voda and 3 change the icons and put logos on the phone itself....
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Posted by darrengf
Thats Great, To unlock Orange, Voda, T-mobile and 3 in this country you have to pay.
Virgin will do it for free as long as you pay £30 credit onto your phone, 02 contract phones are sim free
This is what o2 branding is on the k850i
Which as you can see is nothing, Nothing else is changed all moved on the phone.
Posted by >500
yeah thats how optus/telstra branding is (though telstra seem to be adding an internet shortcut button on the phone itself these days) its good to be in australia, id hate to pay for unlocking
payg phones cost ot be unlocked, though once you have recharged to the amount of bout $80aud, you get the code free.
so darren, use the firmware you listed in one of your above posts?
Posted by darrengf
You could have a look at Davinci site first
http://www1.davinciteam.com/K850/index.html
That might be more help to you as the info was from that site.
Posted by >500
yeah no prob. will just use that one... as its an aussie one, and its fully unbranded. and my internet/mms should still work fine
Posted by darrengf
Let me know how you get on.
Good luck too
Posted by >500
will do... thanks for the help....
Posted by glorfingal
used the same route sainty did (customised uk - r1ca029) to get rid of the
hideous Orange branding, then a FOTA - now fairly stable at r1ca037.
Still experimenting with e-mail client reboots (or not hopefully !!)
Posted by >500
when debranding, when i get to the stage where it says select service, the a2 flash guide on davinci site says to select 'software update db3150', is this right? or can i select 'flash custom software'? i would have thought doing the software update one just updates to newer firmware, not actually debrands the phone
sorry for all the q, i dont debrand often....
and should i use xp or vista to debrand?
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Posted by Sainty
Flash custom software = flash firmware that you have already downloaded
Software update DB3150 = choose any firmware branded or generic to flash to your phone
Basically select software update then choose the CDA/firmware you want to use
Posted by spanner5351
Sorry, maybe dumb question but what is FOTA?
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Posted by goldenface
FOTA is the ability to choose to update the Fw Over The Air by selecting the option from the menu on your phone. You don't need a PC using this method.
Posted by masseur
this was the first time I had ever used FOTA as usually the firmware is available on SEUS before FOTA
Posted by >500
can any one confirm if the new firmware is available for the customized AU/NZ firmware, either on FOTA or SEUS? And how much does FOTA usually cost? and how long approx to do?
cheers
was waiting for this to be moved to Software section
Posted by masseur
it was about 1.4 megabytes on FOTA so you can work the cost out for yourself based on your data plan
Posted by >500
dont even no my rates, as you know masseur, aussie data plans are crap compared to those in uk. i think its 0.03 cents per kb. but if im in a 3g/hsdpa area, should be done quick as with my w910 using hsdpa i was dl 3mb songs in only a few seconds............
thanks mass... can always count on you for help
Posted by spanner5351
ah thats lame, FOTA will cost.
Guess ill just have to wait for SEUS to put the update on the server...
Any one know if the rumours of a new update to fix major bugs on the 10th of December is true?
Posted by >500
Success....... Voda junk now gone! thanks all for your help...
one bad thing though, the au/nz (apac) firmware i changed to doesnt have the latest firmware, and isnt on SEUS yet either. And i cant disable shutter sound either (i know on the asian firmwares you can, but didnt change to one of themas i wasnt sure if my mms/net would still work properly). Ah well, i can live with that....
Posted by DonJuan
im so confused with this how do i install the new software onto my k850 io have 10 creduts but now im lost.
I downloaded the latest client now what
Posted by DonJuan
i did it, all is good
Posted by vonspace
mh..could someone please help me choosing the best fw version for my k850? I live in italy and my phone is terribly branded by tim. Some friends of mine told me to use R1CA029 gr/blue adriatic but then when they tried to update with seus, the strange thing is that seus updated their phones with a 037 fw branded by orange.....So that's strange....
I found instead this other version CUSTOMIZED GREECE/ GREEN ADRIATIC K850i R1CA037 wich isn't branded and supposedly has italian in it.....
Am I doing the right thing updating with this version?
This version seems to be for the green trimmed phone...and mine is blue...Am I going to have problems with it?...
Please if someone could help...
ah...by the way...I'm using vodafone.
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Posted by mauasca
ita.
Vai tranquillo ha appena aggiornato con l'ADRIATICO VERDE K850i R1CA037 è no brand e c'è l'italiano......mitttico
eng.
Calm Vai has as soon as dawned with the ADRIATIC VERDE K850i R1CA037 it is not brand and there is the mitttico Italian ......
Posted by vonspace
On 2007-11-30 21:03:41, mauasca wrote:
ita.
Vai tranquillo ha appena aggiornato con l'ADRIATICO VERDE K850i R1CA037 è no brand e c'è l'italiano......mitttico
eng.
Calm Vai has as soon as dawned with the ADRIATIC VERDE K850i R1CA037 it is not brand and there is the mitttico Italian ......
grazie mille...inglese fantastico..eheh.....
sei sicuro che non ci siano problemi per quanto riguarda il fatto che quello sia il green?...il k850 tim è quello blu...non ci sono differenze tra i due a parte le plastiche vero?..
Posted by mauasca
On 2007-11-30 22:52:33, vonspace wrote:
On 2007-11-30 21:03:41, mauasca wrote:
ita.
Vai tranquillo ha appena aggiornato con l'ADRIATICO VERDE K850i R1CA037 è no brand e c'è l'italiano......mitttico
eng.
Calm Vai has as soon as dawned with the ADRIATIC VERDE K850i R1CA037 it is not brand and there is the mitttico Italian ......
grazie mille...inglese fantastico..eheh.....
sei sicuro che non ci siano problemi per quanto riguarda il fatto che quello sia il green?...il k850 tim è quello blu...non ci sono differenze tra i due a parte le plastiche vero?..
Inglese rigorosamente tradotto con google
no nessuna differenza tra i 2 vai tranquillo 
Vai qui:
http://www.all-unlock.com/showthread.php?t=37779&page=2
ti iscrivi e segui la discussione da qui.
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