Posted by Houston
i read the specs for the k850i its supports M2 and micro SD it says the phone can take up to 4gb on m2 but dosent give a spcific size for micro SD
anyone think it will take 8gb micro SD?
Posted by rockerZ
On 2007-10-08 20:55:30, Houston wrote:
i read the specs for the k850i its supports M2 and micro SD it says the phone can take up to 4gb on m2 but dosent give a spcific size for micro SD
anyone think it will take 8gb micro SD?
I think it should and will be able to take 8GB MicroSD , CuZ its gonna be the latest phone out from SE.I don't think there gonna make such a new product to only support 2GB MicroSD.
Posted by mswallis
It only says 'up to 4GB' on the M2 because that is the biggest capacity available at present but all bigger sizes that are released will work no problem, notice how it doesn't state an 'up to' value for the Micro SD. In other words, yes an 8GB Micro SD card will work fine.
Posted by proximo
I would be surprised if he did in the pdf manual it just says max 4gb of memory but I guess there will be only one way to find out.
Posted by normsland
Hi Guys,
What size microSD/s have people got running in their K850i's? I just saw a nice Kingston 4GB High Capacity Class 4 MicroSD Card over at Expansys:
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=156338
"Class 4" meaning that you should be able to write to it at over 4mb/s
.
Anyone got any idea if this would work with a Sony Ericsson K850i?
Thanks
Norm
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Posted by *Jojo*
Are the M2 and micro-SD cards have the very same size-specs
Posted by razec
JP-8 allows the phone to hold cards up to 16Gbytes! so i'm sure whether if its microSD or M2 both can be accomodated at their highest capacity atm: 8GB
Posted by max_wedge
On 2007-10-22 00:24:58, razec wrote:
JP-8 allows the phone to hold cards up to 16Gbytes! so i'm sure whether if its microSD or M2 both can be accomodated at their highest capacity atm: 8GB
actually it's got nothing to do with JP8 per se. JP8 refers to the java platform.
The memory capacity is determined by the memory architecture. The memory stick architecture (including MSPro, MSDPro and M2) physical limit is 32GB. I think it's the same for MicroSD, but you have to use SDHC cards to go larger than 2GB in the micro SD format.
All phones from the K750 and later that take MSDP or M2 can take any card up to 32GB.
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Posted by razec
Oh, my mistakes, thanks for correcting max!
Posted by max_wedge
Glad to be of service
Posted by >500
so the k850 will indeed accept 4/6/8gb micro sd sdhc cards?
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Posted by Aware
1) Sir SonyEricsson Man is already running an 8GB MicroSD in his K850(see users thread)......
2) For accuracy, V/Z800i was actually the first phones to support PRO(32GB) formatting
Posted by max_wedge
Actually you are quite correct, Z series slipped my mind (not a big clamshell fan).
And what about P910, it had Pro support, when did it come out?
Posted by Aware
Max, about the same time as Z800(I run 910 fw on my 900)...however, it doesn't support 32GB, so I didn't mention it......
Posted by masseur
as mentioned, P910 could only support 2gb PRO duo as the P910 only used FAT16 and not FAT32
Posted by max_wedge
On 2007-10-22 14:28:04, Aware wrote:
Max, about the same time as Z800(I run 910 fw on my 900)...however, it doesn't support 32GB, so I didn't mention it......
only because the P910 firmware only supports fat16 (not fat32 - using fat16 the largest partition size possible is 2GB). The hardware does, but the os doesn't
But again, you are quite correct
And as usual, masseur beat me to it
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Posted by no1Joeno1
Will an 8gb memory card work with the w910i?
Thanks.
Posted by >500
^^^ 8gb M2 cards will work with w910i
Posted by no1Joeno1
Thanks. I hope the price of them comes down by Christmas though.
Posted by normsland
On 2007-10-22 00:18:24, normsland wrote:
What size microSD/s have people got running in their K850i's? I just saw a nice Kingston 4GB High Capacity Class 4 MicroSD Card over at Expansys:
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=156338
"Class 4" meaning that you should be able to write to it at over 4mb/s
.
Thanks for all the replies. After posting, i noticed that I could get a 6GB SanDisk Class 4 MicroSD for £35 from here: http://www.memoryking.com/mal[....]King/SDSDQ%2D6144%2DE11M/87875
...Which is an absolute bargain!
One thing I noticed though is that M2 cards have a...
Dual voltage operation; 1.8v for new Sony Ericsson mobile phones, 3.3v for Memory Stick PRO Duo compatible devices
Does anyone know how many volts a MicroSD uses? And does it use more of the battery life than a M2?
Thanks,
Norm
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Posted by Ian1261
Hello to all on this thread,
I read everyone saying about max sizes of m2 card etc. I have just been experimenting with 4gb m2 card in my k850i and yes it does 'accept' the card BUT it seems to have limitations..... I have full length feature films on it that do not playback properly, sound out of sync and jerky, much slower accessing info from it and the 'save' time when you take a photo is up to 4 times longer compared to EXACTLY the same content/operations using my 2gb card with which I have no problems whatsoever! Other things (music, looking at pics, oh and using the phone are fine!). If anyone has tried the micro sd with better results it would be good to know or indeed if anyone using m2 card has similar problems with the same sort of thing I have mentioned.
Also tried the 4gb card in my k800i (same problems), works fine when playing film on pc from the card.
Thanks in anticipation
Ian
Posted by max_wedge
It's more likely that this is a firmware related issue than hardware.
Posted by Ian1261
Hopefully that is the case, bit annoying, as SE say it supports 4gb, clearly not to its full potential!
Anyway I have sent card back in case it is that and gone back to my 2gb card for now see if a replacement is any better.
For now though I would say that the K850i cannot fully handle anything more than a 2gb card, I hope I am wrong but the evidence is not in my favour! Perhaps a firmware update will rectify? Have to wait and see!!
Cheers
Ian
Posted by Sir-SonyEricsson-man
On 2007-10-22 13:55:38, Aware wrote:
1) Sir SonyEricsson Man is already running an 8GB MicroSD in his K850(see users thread)......
2) For accuracy, V/Z800i was actually the first phones to support PRO(32GB) formatting
Jepps thats right.. Takes a little bit time to load the playlists when i have a lot of music in the phone.. But i really haven't put in 8GB of stuff in the phone yet. Can take a picture later for you.. More likely tomorrow..
Posted by Ian1261
yeah I didn't have problems with playlists or music or other less resource hungry stuff either. Have you tried watching a full length film on it? It will be interesting to hear results on 'save' times when taking photos at 5mb. Maybe it likes microsd cards better than m2!!??
Cheers
Posted by Darkwun
@ Sir Sony Ericsson Man - Have you noticed and huge slowdown navigating the phone/media menu/file manager when using that 8gb beast because i'm considering investing in one
and also has the consumption of battery life changed at all especially when in media mode
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Posted by normsland
I think I'm going to buy a 6gb Class 4 MicroSD for my K850i. I mean it seems pretty damn cheap (see my post above) and on SanDisk's website it does seem to suggest that MicroSD cards are slightly quicker.
I was thinking about waiting for the 8gb SanDisk MicroSD card to come out but then I noticed it was a class 4 as well. If you can wait until next year (mid-2008) Samsung are going to be shipping a Class 6 8gb MicroSD.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/05/17/samsung_8gb_microsd/
More info about the different MicroSD classes can be found on SanDisk's site here (please see the bottom of the 2nd page):
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf
Hmm...
Norm
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Posted by indup
so does the k850 accept both micro sd AND micro sdhc upto 8 gb, aswell as the memory stick micro? and of these 3 different types of card which is the best to use?
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Posted by max_wedge
whatever suits your budget
Posted by normsland
Hi All,
It looks as though SanDisk's 8GB MicroSDs and M2s are now available:
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/[....]k-8GB-microSDHC-M2-cards.phtml
The MicroSD is a Class 4 which means the minimum write speed is 4Mb/s. No specs on the M2 version.
So who's going to be buying one?
Norm
Posted by ericemel
Thanks for all the replies. After posting, i noticed that I could get a 6GB SanDisk Class 4 MicroSD for £35 from here: http://www.memoryking.com/mal[....]King/SDSDQ%2D6144%2DE11M/87875
...Which is an absolute bargain!
Specs say this is class 2.
"Speed performance rating: Class 2 (based on SD 2.00 Specification)"
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Posted by normsland
Hi Guys,
Got my SanDisk 6GB microSD card yesterday and it works a treat with my SE K850i. I ended up getting it for £33 from Kikatek. Ordered it on Monday and it arrived on Wednesday.
On 2007-10-31 08:49:27, ericemel wrote:
Specs say this is class 2.
"Speed performance rating: Class 2 (based on SD 2.00 Specification)"
ericemel, it's definitely a Class 4 Micro SDHC card. Please see the full specifications on SanDisk's site...
http://www.sandisk.com/Produc[....]144-SanDisk_microSDHC_6GB.aspx
As for speed it's quite fast for such physically small card. Took around 30mins to copy 2GB of mp3's on to it using the USB reader that came with it. Seems quite zippy in my K850i. I would say that it isn't any slower than the m2 that came with my K850i. If that's of any help...
Cheers,
Norm
Posted by hillski
What will the W660i support up to, without any slow down?
Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-11-01 22:04:32, hillski wrote:
What will the W660i support up to, without any slow down?
w660i doesn't support micro sd
Posted by k850i
On 2007-11-01 20:47:39, normsland wrote:
Hi Guys,
Got my SanDisk 6GB microSD card yesterday and it works a treat with my SE K850i. I ended up getting it for £33 from Kikatek. Ordered it on Monday and it arrived on Wednesday.
I bought 6GB microSD as well but it doesn't work with my k850i. I tried few things like format, update phone software and nothing. It always say " Memory card not inserted". Memory works fine connected to computer. Any advises??
Regards,
k850i
Posted by croatia
SORRY WHATS THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN SD AND SDHC?got all ready 2gb micro sd in my k850i and work normaly and planing to buy a 8gb!thanx
Posted by sadeghi85
On 2007-11-29 18:01:37, croatia wrote:
SORRY WHATS THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN SD AND SDHC?got all ready 2gb micro sd in my k850i and work normaly and planing to buy a 8gb!thanx
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Posted by croatia
thanx!but: "SDHC cards only work in SDHC compatible devices, but standard SD cards work in both SD and SDHC devices. The SDHC trademark is licensed to ensure compatibility" now,will ordinary sd 8gb works with k850i?anybody?or i must buy an sdhc 8gb?
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Posted by Terminatorak
The Micro SD 8gb should work. I'm planning on getting an 8gb Micro SD from Play.com for £54.99.
Posted by croatia
ok thanx
Posted by sadeghi85
On 2007-11-29 18:19:04, croatia wrote:
thanx!but: "SDHC cards only work in SDHC compatible devices, but standard SD cards work in both SD and SDHC devices. The SDHC trademark is licensed to ensure compatibility" now,will ordinary sd 8gb works with k850i?anybody?or i must buy an sdhc 8gb?
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AFAIK maximum capacity for ordinary SD cards is 4GB. i dunno K850 is compatible with SDHC or not.
MicroSDs beyond 4GB actually are MicroSDHC
Posted by k850i
I add new topic (is locked now) as no one confirm (except one user) that it works. In my phone it doesn't so it is 50% chance that it work. Please add you comment if you tried 8gb microSD with K850i or suggestion why it doesn't.
Thank you
K850i
Posted by goldenface
I can confirm that it does work. I am running one now and it works a charm.
Posted by k850i
Thanks for info. I sorted out problem upgrading firmware via davinci team web (£7.5). Now I can confirm It definitely does work.
K850i
Posted by k850i
i lost my patients gr... It have worked until it didn't swap SD card with my 512MB M2 to restore my contacts and pictures. Now again i have " No memory card inserted". I think i will sell this crap soon. Any idea why is this doing it??
k850i
Posted by goldenface
On 2007-12-01 16:24:02, k850i wrote:
i lost my patients gr... It have worked until it didn't swap SD card with my 512MB M2 to restore my contacts and pictures. Now again i have " No memory card inserted". I think i will sell this crap soon. Any idea why is this doing it??
k850i
Are you aware that, when the phone is lying on its face, M2 cards slot in 'text side down' and SD cards go in 'text facing up'?
Posted by k850i
Yes I am. It wouldn't work previously if I always insert in the same way. Any way I tried both ways. Looks like I got faulty phone.
Posted by croatia
M2 AND MICROSD GO IN THE SAME HOLE BUT CONTRA,M2 WITH CONTACTS ON UP,MICROSD WITH CONTACTS ON DOWN LIKE SIM!
Posted by famous12
I got mine
Had problem inserting it properly
after trying different ways...works seamlessly
No prob wat so ever
Posted by plankgatan
i should go for the M2... its 100% compatibel.
sure, micro sd should also be 100% compatibel on K850 (because it have dual card reader), BUT i know a friend who bought micro sd and the phone got slower, dont ask me why, anyway, he replaced it with a 4GB m2 card and vipps it became faster like it suppose to do)
i should gor a 4GB M2
just to be safe
he he he...dont forgett to spinn the micro sd card 180 degress, (its card reader sits on the other side).
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