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Peter's Acoustic Mod v2 - for K800/W880/S500 and all other zapf models

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Posted by pedrops
"It really wips the lamma's ass"
we should be very thankfull to Stonos, Jaghetherfredrik, Rekoil, Qwerty12, The-laser, Xaero and a lot more
Peter Mods 4shared

- R8BA024
Peter's Acoustics v2

Recomended Manul EQ Setting:

*You can still find v1 here under Peter's Acoustics v2 + v1 for R8




- R1KG001

Peter's Acoustics v2
Based on R8BA024R acoustics!
- v2 for HPM70 users [more bass, bit more treble]
- v2 for Hifi Headphones [soft equalization]
- v2 Ultrabass beta [just a beta test]
XS++ zip file:
Peter v2 HPM70 IFS
Peter v2 HiFi IFS
Peter v2 Ultrabass IFS


For HPM70 I suggest this manual equalizer settings:

Change log:
- New acoustic mod especially for R8AB024 users!
- DRC on/off option
- Fixed uncorrect channels!
- Especific HPM70 changes - more bass and trebble
- HiFi headphones - soft equalization
- Ultrabass - just for fun... not very good with rock... but sounds awsome with techno, dance, etc.
- Changed transmition compensation, better call quality. [of course depends on your service provider call quality]
- Earpierce call volume is louder than original, but a bit softer than previous.
- Farfield_play is based on W850 compensations, K800 speaker settings, volume raised.
- Overall volume increased
- Bluetooth acoustics changed
- Handsfree acoustics changed
- Vehicle Handsfree acoustics changed



Instructions:
1 - Download the file linked above
2 - UNzip it
3 - With FAR navigate to IFSsettingsacoustic
4 - Delete all files with the exact same name and extension [zapf] on the phone, that are present on the pack. [18 files]
5 - Now that originals were deleted, you can copy all files from the pack
6 - Quit FAR

#3 For XS++ users
Get the desired IFS zip file on the links below!
Peter v2 HPM70 IFS
Peter v2 HiFi IFS
Peter v2 Ultrabass IFS


Mirror:
Peter 4shared

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Posted by kanta
It is good to have your own topic, unlike sunfire or xaero although they are great but hardly contact with them....


So with good luck with your accoustic and hope u will produce quality acoustic for us as we could interact and give comments on your work.

Posted by max_wedge
good work pedrops. Is the mike mod done via it's own zapf file? If so which one (I want to leave the mike mod out if I can)?

Posted by genus
Good work, it have louder sound.

Posted by mauasca

On 2007-10-07 10:33:15, genus wrote:
Good work, it have louder sound.


Good Work, the sound is stronger and limpid; -)

Posted by pedrops

On 2007-10-07 05:47:56, max_wedge wrote:
good work pedrops. Is the mike mod done via it's own zapf file? If so which one (I want to leave the mike mod out if I can)?

Thank you very much Max!!
You mean you want the mike with normal sensibility? It was changed on farfield rec and handset 0 call, I'll set to normal and upload to you.

Is the mike too sensitive now? Maybe it's not a good idea to have it louder...


Thanks Genus, Kanta, Mauasca!


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Posted by norbi_nw
hows this compared to the sunfire 7 v2 acoustics?? louder/better?

Posted by TheNerd
thanks buddy!

Posted by max_wedge

On 2007-10-07 21:11:00, pedrops wrote:

On 2007-10-07 05:47:56, max_wedge wrote:
good work pedrops. Is the mike mod done via it's own zapf file? If so which one (I want to leave the mike mod out if I can)?

Thank you very much Max!!
You mean you want the mike with normal sensibility? It was changed on farfield rec and handset 0 call, I'll set to normal and upload to you.

Is the mike too sensitive now? Maybe it's not a good idea to have it louder...


Thanks Genus, Kanta, Mauasca!


[ This Message was edited by: pedrops on 2007-10-07 20:14 ]

Actually it might be good, but I'd like a chance to test it properly before I use it since I use the phone for my business and don't want to be blasting the ears out of my clients (no one currently complains they can't hear me - so I'm using the principle "if it ain't broke don't fix it") or the sound to be distorted.

Then later when I am with someone and I can use their phone to call mine and I can listen myself, then I'll decide if it's necessary.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure you have done a fine job on the mike I just thought if I could test your other mods, which I'm keen to do, without worrying I might give my customers ear bleed!! But I think I'm being too paranoid.

Posted by pedrops
Man, I just realized that I haven't uploaded the version with the mic mod.. cause I couldn't test it, and till nobody complained about low mic volume...

So you can test without fear about bleeding your clients ears!


BTW

Gonna release a new version soon.. as the sound is distorting at max volume.
But you'll have to wait... cause I don't want to make lots of versions... so the next one gotta be good enough to be the final one.

I'll need some beta testers!

Posted by max_wedge
Sign me up!

Posted by bennyboy™

max_wedge wrote:

I'll need some beta testers!


Sign me up

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Posted by kcng
I'm up for beta testing.

Posted by cardsnk
how can i use this with xs++?

instructions please...like the one's with FAR

Posted by kopritis
gr8 Job man! my k810 sound is much better now!!! THANKS!!!

Posted by pedrops
beta is out
let's see what you guys think

Posted by norbi_nw
yeah, i will also need instructions with XS++ v2 ( i tryed to upload some files to cid49 and it hanged at starting file system text).

If i'd add a word, i'd say use sunfire 7 v2 acoustics (only the handsfree part of it) in your pack. or something similar to it. i like it LOUD in handsfree, and loud but not cracky in backspeaker. Thx for the ACX. good job

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Posted by pedrops
Its not a mix of acoutics.. its my own mod.. so I wont use sunfire's PHFs.
Handsfree part is perfect man, I'll leave it that way.
And man, thats already loud.. I don't think you really use it on max volume.

Concerning to backspeaker.. that's my task to next version.

Anyway, If you find sunfire's acoutics fits better to what you need, use his acoustics! They are good.

Loud volumes means that it will crack at a certain point.. there's no magic that can be mabe to that cheap speaker

I'm waiting for the answer of betatesters... Its getting complicated to get it loud as people want.... without interfering on internal sounds equalization I think its almost impossible
but yeah, I'm trying

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Posted by whitehackker
yah you are right crackling sound is a matter of hardware...
your acoustic mods are good...
i'm also testing your acoustic.

keep up the good work man!.

can't wait to test your next mod..

God bless

Posted by pedrops
People interested on higher volume, please read this:
http://maxx.com/objects/DSP%2[....]mpensation%20White%20Paper.pdf

Especially page 2, quality limits.

And on bottom of page 6, very usefull info


Please all help me here: http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=9313&st=140
last page

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Posted by norbi_nw
yeah. sry! i anwsered before testing your ACX pack. THEY ARE VERY GOOD! in handsfree they lack the bass, but thats about it (would be nice to have the red bars in the EQ -for the bass- to be megabass. I mean i wont listen to full volume+megabass, but 6 bars+megabass... it blows your ears. And those who dont like it, should leave bass at half). In the other way they are, like i said before, very fine. but why are there only 18 files?

Posted by pedrops
Yeah! I know asah megabass has a lot os bass.. but its an equalization problem.. asah have lots of bass but poor quality.
Mine is balanced.. and bass you can add on first EQ columm.
I'll try to add a little more bass on handsfree =]
but I think volume is nice.. don't want to compromise quality.

but that backspeaker... man that's a problem...

I'm still waiting the answer of beta testers.... two lasts betas are almost final

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Posted by hanugro

On 2007-10-09 04:58:13, pedrops wrote:
Its not a mix of acoutics.. its my own mod.. so I wont use sunfire's PHFs.
Handsfree part is perfect man, I'll leave it that way.
And man, thats already loud.. I don't think you really use it on max volume.

Concerning to backspeaker.. that's my task to next version.

Anyway, If you find sunfire's acoutics fits better to what you need, use his acoustics! They are good.

Loud volumes means that it will crack at a certain point.. there's no magic that can be mabe to that cheap speaker

I'm waiting for the answer of betatesters... Its getting complicated to get it loud as people want.... without interfering on internal sounds equalization I think its almost impossible
but yeah, I'm trying

[ This Message was edited by: pedrops on 2007-10-09 04:06 ]


Yeah the back loudspeaker is really on the limit here. It is crackling a bit on the highest volume. IMHO, it volume is already loud enough (more than stock driver). Ear speaker also seems perfect. I gotta try using bluetooth stereo headphone next time.

Posted by devya
Superb !!!......
I love it...
good job man .!!!!

Posted by norbi_nw
no pete. More bass is good. If it has distorsions at high volume, then lower bass in manual EQ. As i listen ho a lot of music with heavy bass, it is good to have the last 2 bars in EQ heavy bass. It feels good to listen at 5-6 dots with EXTRA heavy bass. has no distorsion - only if volume is max. Dunno what can u do about that backspeaker. k750i sounded a lot better


Posted by kcng

On 2007-10-09 09:52:14, pedrops wrote:
Yeah! I know asah megabass has a lot os bass.. but its an equalization problem.. asah have lots of bass but poor quality.
Mine is balanced.. and bass you can add on first EQ columm.
I'll try to add a little more bass on handsfree =]
but I think volume is nice.. don't want to compromise quality.

but that backspeaker... man that's a problem...

I'm still waiting the answer of beta testers.... two lasts betas are almost final

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Pedrops, please check your PM.

Posted by zirkie101
Hi all. I don't mean 2 intrude in this thread, but I'm watching it with eagle eye's. Can't wait 4 next version of Pete's acoustic. (Wow, there are some legends in this forum.) Go ahead guys, make history! OK Bye!

Posted by pedrops
@Hanugro
Yes you're right.. its on its limit.. I'm working on equalization to see how far I can raise volume, and yet have good EQ.

@Norbi
Yeah I know bass is good! Its just that K800 speaker is to small, and it can't handle heavy bass =(
Backspeaker only plays smooth on flat EQ. You're right about lowering overall volume, than raising bass. Its the only way

Is k750 backspeaker a different hardware than k800? If it sounds better, and have the same size with better audio... I would be one of the firsts to change the speaker
Than start from scratch on acoustics.. not limited by that tiny k800 speaker

@Kncg
Man, perfect testing! You have pointed all the info I need! Thank you so much!
Gonna release some more betas.. you're my oficial beta tester now
good job! its really good to have help here =]

@Zerkie
That backspeaker is giving me a hard work.. I'm still testing some stuff
keep watching! as soon as I have found perfect sound and volume I'll release next version!

Posted by Stalix
Great job with trying to get best loudness/quality with preserving the original sound effects.

My personal favorite acoustic is rusf81_mix. its posted in the http://cybershot.4shared.com/

I was wondering if you could add on to his already great acoustics. He has the only acoustic that doesnt have the high pitched trebble problem that all the other acoustics seem to have. So i am currently using his but I am torn between his and your acoustics each are equaly good, but i'm leaning towards your because of the earpiece loudness which is very nice.

so keep up the good work.

Posted by pedrops
Oh, Norbi, forgot to answer you anout the 18 files. As I don't have bluetooth headphones, neither vehicle handsfree.. I couldn't test it.. so I haven't packed them togheter.
I just can't see how the mod changed acoustics...
But if peolple think is better to attach ALL 44 acoustics files, I'll pack them all!


@Stalix
Thanks for poiting that one! Gonna take a good look on that acoustic.
You're talking about the sound on backspeaker right?
How about the volume of rufinus?
And the sound an volume with earphones?

*If you guys could test those acoustics, and point the good and bads, would be great to my work =]

Posted by Stalix
Yeah when I'm talking about sound on the k800i I mean the back speaker. Thats what I look for the most is the quality of the back speaker since the rest is always good, its the back speaker that needs special tweaking, but your earpiece loudness doesn't hurt very nice.

I would be happy to give you my opinion on any fonts you would like to know of, but I haven't tried refinus and can't seem to find it. I have tried all the fonts posted on cybershot.4shared.com

Posted by norbi_nw
u mean u can change the k810 speaker with the k750i one?? I will try to get one a broken k750i/w800/w810. would they fit?

Posted by pedrops
@Stalix
I think that rusf81 mix is rufinus acoustics... gonna take a look on that

@Norbi
I'm searching info about those speakers, perhaps SE has released a similar one with 4ohms on some phone. I know W880 speaker doesn't fit...
Just gotta find a better speaker that fits on K800
=]
but that may be just a dream of mine!

Check your inbox, sent you a PM!

Posted by norbi_nw
yeah but you said a k750i would match the k800's speaker.

Posted by pedrops

On 2007-10-10 20:16:27, norbi_nw wrote:
yeah but you said a k750i would match the k800's speaker.


No no my friend!
I said "If it sounds better, and have the same size with better audio"

IF it sounds better
IF it is the same size

I don't know that... I was only saying if it is compatible, and have better sound, I would deff change my K800 speaker.

Maybe on that site that sells SE parts we can find it.... I just don't remember whats their site address...

Posted by pedrops
Please everyone who has downloaded Peter's loud call and Extreme loud call, or my pack, download this fix.
Its a fix of microphone acoustic compensation, better audio quality for the person who's hearing you.

The code was released for K790 only, not K800 or K810.. and I only noticed now.

So please download and replace handset_0_call.zapf



FAR:
Loud
Extreme Loud


XS++:
Loud IFS
Extreme Loud IFS


Posted by Stalix
Cool thanks, your like the guru of acoustcs for k800 style phone, keep it up. We'll make you our leader

I hope to see and hear a lot more of your acoustics.

Posted by zirkie101
I downloaded peter acoustic v1. Which one 2 get & should I just overwrite the original v1 files?

Posted by TheNerd
thanks for the fix!!

Posted by pedrops
Yeah I found that TX 8Khz compensation string on a K790 R1KG001 acoustic file.
Than I modded and tested calling my girlfriend, and she said the audio got better quality and same volume.

So I decided to share with you!

@Zirkie
There's two versions. One is a little bit louder than original, which fits the necessity of most k800 users [to have earpierce a little louder].
The second one is EXTREME loud, wich is meant to people who stay often on noisy enviroment, and need extra volume sometimes.

You can test both and see which one fits your necessities better.

I'll always release files for FAR and the ZIP file with the "ifs\settings\acoustics" folder structure... for phoneXS++. You decide which program you use.

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Posted by genus
Ok,thx for the fix Pedrops.

Posted by zirkie101
Thx Pedrops. I showed off a little with my K800's volume @ work today. My 1 mate with W850 was completely flabbergasted to say the least. In the past I never used to play music loud for the mere fact that older phones kicked my K800's ass. Now the tables are turning . Thx again Pedrops 4 ur hard work. Looking forward to v2 of ur acoustic. (Maybe SE should give you a job!)

Posted by xan K
dude, this is AWESOME!!! best acoustic drivers EVER! I agree SE should really hire you. keep up the good work, but I don't see how it could get any better than this.

Posted by hanugro
I use the not so loud version and find that I need to turn down the ear speaker volume few notch. Well, if someone say that the extreme loud is not enough then they need to get their ear checked by the doctor!

Posted by pedrops
I would like to work at SE!
LOL
Thanks guys!

Its taking more time than I expected to get a better sound on that backspeaker.

I was just wondering... those programmers at SE know every single detail on acoustics settings.. they sure have tools to edit it easier... so why they just don't put the effort that we do for making better acoustics???
K800 earpierce is so low... why they don't increase a little bit, it so easy...

I cant get SE.. its so easy to make a better phone just improving its firmware... why they don't do that?
[sure now K800 is past for them... but I'm sure new phones will have the same problems]

@Hanugro
Thats the intention... you use Loud call, than lower the volume a few notchs.. and when you need, you have that extra volume to raise!
=]
I really need that sometimes.

Posted by xan K
I also need that extra loudness for some occasions. So I'm using the loudest earpiece mod volume at level 3, when is needed I just pump it up. I just notice that the top two levels don't raise the volume as much as the previous levels. But don't get me wrong, it's already insanely LOUD.

Posted by genus
the fix is for k790 only??? Is that k800i/k810i doesnt need to fix or not yet have the fix?

Posted by f0rbez
pedrops: could you re-upload the new acoustic with the fix included? original download link is dead. thx.

Posted by e_erzan

On 2007-10-11 22:29:50, pedrops wrote:
I would like to work at SE!
LOL
Thanks guys!

Its taking more time than I expected to get a better sound on that backspeaker.

I was just wondering... those programmers at SE know every single detail on acoustics settings.. they sure have tools to edit it easier... so why they just don't put the effort that we do for making better acoustics???
K800 earpierce is so low... why they don't increase a little bit, it so easy...

I cant get SE.. its so easy to make a better phone just improving its firmware... why they don't do that?
[sure now K800 is past for them... but I'm sure new phones will have the same problems]

@Hanugro
Thats the intention... you use Loud call, than lower the volume a few notchs.. and when you need, you have that extra volume to raise!
=]
I really need that sometimes.


peter,does your acoustics have any differences on the VIDEO CALL mic?
Coz i find that the backspeaker is superb!but they couldnt hear me well....


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