post pictures taken with your: sony ericsson K850

Posted by razec

On 2007-11-01 02:21:36, *Jojo* wrote:
Images uploaded here in the FORUM should and MUST be photoshop-FREE . . . no alterations should be made with the PICS so as to LEARN how to take sharper images usin' our PLAIN

camfones ! I see NO prudential-reason why EDITING must be done in order to see a NICER-image-upload here

If so, we should try to compete and compare images taken with Digicams in that case

Hmmm..

So i think they should better post it on camera sample pictures section

the EXIF wont lie btw

Posted by AbuBasim

On 2007-11-01 06:28:32, razec wrote:

Hmmm..

So i think they should better post it on camera sample pictures section

the EXIF wont lie btw

Oh yes, it will! Do a quick google for "edit exif"!

Posted by Laxe
Yeah comon guys, if you post a really good picture it has to be with the K850.

Furthermore please post the settings used because I've been playing around a lot and can't get results anywhere near what's being posted here. Also, has anyone gotten sharp pics whilst taking profile pictures at night?

Oh, and I think editing is OK only if the editing is done on the phone too!

Posted by plankgatan
is this Night pics ok.........(its nearly impossible to take pictures when its full darkness....you need a good light source....or a real good camera for that..(the sensor is to small in cell phones for that kind of job).

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Posted by goldenface
Great infact!

Looks like its Macdonalds for lunch today.

Posted by sandy4464
@Laxe

The photos i've taken have just been in full auto mode, but adjusting white balance. and i think editing in phone is ok, its still what can be done by the phone.

Posted by AbuBasim

On 2007-11-01 10:59:52, plankgatan wrote:
is this Night pics ok.........(its nearly impossible to take pictures when its full darkness....you need a good light source....or a real good camera for that..(the sensor is to small in cell phones for that kind of job).

Ha, ha, ha! Not all cell phones! Only those with cheap sensors! A better sensor will produce something like this:

(More available in SaLiH's post here.)

Posted by plankgatan
that pictures dosent come from your cell phone, or ????? (its good of course..but its not yours..it was myself who put it, in that thread

its kind of strange...ive seen night pics from i-mobile 902 who looks much much worse (from a swedish website)...i think this night pics is done in photo shop, etc....looks to sharp.
here you see what im talking about...this night picture dosent have the same sharpness..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[....]4180/in/set-72157594525826478/

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k850 is amazing...check this out...Porsche Cayenne turbo..(such a awesome car):

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Posted by AbuBasim

On 2007-11-01 12:02:51, plankgatan wrote:
that pictures dosent come from your cell phone, or ????? (its good of course..but its not yours..it was myself who put it, in that thread

I was just proving you wrong, that's all. Your K850i may be good - but definitely not for low-light shots!

Here's one of my night shots:

And this is the same photo in full size. Please look at it and notice the low amount of noise!

its kind of strange...ive seen night pics from i-mobile 902 who looks much much worse (from a swedish website)...i think this night pics is done in photo shop, etc....looks to sharp.

What Swedish web site?

here you see what im talking about...this night picture dosent have the same sharpness..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[....]4180/in/set-72157594525826478/

The lack of sharpness in tnkgrl's photo is due to the phone being handheld for that photo. It's obvious if you look at the full size photo.
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Posted by plankgatan
eeehhhhh...k850 take VERY good low light/night pictures..(probably one of the best cell phone for night pics).....i-mobile 902 takes often little better night pics, (i repeat, often little better)...like i said before...ive seen night pics from i-mobile who dosent looks so sharp, and there k850 had done a better job...no doubt about that.

ps...im not saying i-mobile902 take bad pictures.....(its one of the best camera cell phones you can get...)
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Posted by AbuBasim
By the time my 902 breaks I hope SE will have released a GSM version of the SO905iCs, their new 5.1 MP CCD-based, 3x optical zoom, Xenon flash Cyber-shot thingy! If not then a pocket-sized P&S will have to do. And it will not be a Sony out of frustration for SE not releasing their goodies to us outside Japan!

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Posted by rockerZ

On 2007-11-01 12:17:06, plankgatan wrote:
eeehhhhh...k850 take VERY good low light/night pictures..(probably one of the best cell phone for night pics).....i-mobile 902 takes often little better night pics, (i repeat, often little better)...like i said before...ive seen night pics from i-mobile who dosent looks so sharp, and there k850 had done a better job...no doubt about that.

ps...im not saying i-mobile902 take bad pictures.....(its one of the best camera cell phones you can get...)
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Say whatever you want ... but I-Mobile 902 takes the Best Night photos ever ...

Posted by DarKMaGiCiaN
nightshot???

I have one but I took it when I bought my K850i ( when I'm still learnning how to use the camera)

full size here

I'll try to take some night shots today ^_^

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Posted by plankgatan
he he he...whatever...show me night pictures FROM YOUR OWN I-MOBILE.902 who have the same sharpness like this night picture

(who i posted myself...and who i realy think is done in photo shop)............then im convinced.....untill then...it is like it is ...

i think i-mobile is quite sensitive....sometimes you get awesome night pics, and sometimes you get medium quality...

edit @DarKMaGiCiaN... thats what im talking about

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Posted by >500
@abu
its not CCD. Its a new type of CMOS

Posted by zootzoot
BOO HOO mine is better than yours and yours is better than mine..

WHO CARES.....

Lets just put our pics up on this thread like the thread says
(post pictures taken with your: sony ericsson K850)

Posted by AbuBasim

On 2007-11-01 12:40:39, plankgatan wrote:
he he he...whatever...show me night pictures FROM YOUR OWN I-MOBILE.902 who have the same sharpness like this night picture

(who i posted myself...and who i realy think is done in photo shop)............then im convinced.....untill then...it is like it is ...

The photo is reduced in size. That's why it is so sharp. It will of course not look so sharp at full 5 MP size. That's something you on one hand seem very familiar with considering that you until now have refused to post full size unadulterated versions of your photos and just showing off your 800x600 scaled down things, and on the other hand do not understand when looking at other people's photos from other camera phones?!

BTW, how come all your photos are 778x584? Do you scale them down in your PC?

On 2007-11-01 12:40:55, >500 wrote:
@abu
its not CCD. Its a new type of CMOS

The blog I linked above said CCD. Oh well... just one more disappointment from Sony Ericsson

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Posted by soheilsh
its very gooooood quality

K850 sony ericsson is king of mobile camera

Posted by Laxe

On 2007-11-01 10:59:52, plankgatan wrote:
is this Night pics ok.........(its nearly impossible to take pictures when its full darkness....you need a good light source....or a real good camera for that..(the sensor is to small in cell phones for that kind of job).

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Nice, what settings did you use?

Posted by masada71

On 2007-11-01 12:02:51, plankgatan wrote:
that pictures dosent come from your cell phone, or ????? (its good of course..but its not yours..it was myself who put it, in that thread

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such an awesome car,shot with such an awesome cameraphone!!

Posted by brewcaster
Straight from the cam. Got this thing last night. Adjusting to it, can't wait for next firmware.... other than the lagging in some menus and especially the time it takes to populate the media lists using a 4gig microsd card. Other than those hopefully fixed issues with next firmware, this is a bad ass phone. Even with the issues currently, I don't regret the cash I dropped on this thing.

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Posted by AbuBasim

On 2007-11-01 12:40:39, plankgatan wrote:
he he he...whatever...show me night pictures FROM YOUR OWN I-MOBILE.902 who have the same sharpness like this night picture

You can find an example here in the i-mobile 902 photos thread. Feel free also to look at the original and you'll notice the absence of noise in that night shot.
BTW, why are all your photos 778x584? (That's less than 10 percent of 5 MP.) Is that the size produced by BestPic or have you downsized them in your PC?

Posted by plankgatan
he he......why do we discuss i-mobile902 ?????? (everyone know that i-mobile often take realy good night pictures........k850 take also often good night pictures)

this thread is for k850 i think.......

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Posted by p!xarus
@plank
Again some fantastic pics, looks like that tree have been trough a storm or two.

Posted by petrescucostin
Night time pics, flash on, Auto ISO :

and ISO 100:

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Posted by Darkwun

Here are a few contributions on my part

Posted by elementz
I used to own an i-mobile 902, and I must say that 902 takes excellent night shots. Only down side is that you have to set it on timer to get sharp pics, as the exposure time is very long (can be a few seconds).

I try to dig out some of my old 902 pics.

Posted by Shuuro
@elementz, your imobile 902 pics posted at hardwarezone are awesome!.

Posted by AbuBasim

On 2007-11-01 21:34:04, plankgatan wrote:
he he......why do we discuss i-mobile902 ?????? (everyone know that i-mobile often take realy good night pictures........k850 take also often good night pictures)

You challenged me to produce a sharp night photo so I responded!

And twice I asked why all your photos are 778x584. A very odd size as Esato always crops to 800x600. So I was curious to know if this is because you always use BestPic and 778x584 is the only size you get from BestPic, or do you scale down your photos before uploading?

Posted by tai020381
Hers's a night photo taken by k850i.

In its twilight landscape mode, ISO was reduced to 125, shutter speed to 1/2 second.

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/1567/twilightmodeoo3.jpg
Full size picture.
Already very good for a cameraphone I think.

And Abu, why do you keep challenging and taking out i-mobile cameraphone to compare here?? Isn't there a photo thread for that phone also? And if its camera quality surpassed k850i I bet its battery juice will be sucked out in 1/2 a day of shooting compared to the k850i. Also, CMOS sensor might not lose to CCD sensor, only I think SE did some marketing on cameraphones. (As in not producing very good sensor so as not to overtake current DC sales.)

Posted by LCARS-Expert
I made a macro-shot of an earphone and modded it in Photoshop.

The original image was resized to 65% of original size and then cropped to 800x600:

After removing noise and a bit of sharpening (<5min work) this is the result:

Posted by Laxe
Here's a macro pic of a spider I saw. This was taken with the document profile, and ISO 100:

Posted by AbuBasim

On 2007-11-02 11:48:28, tai020381 wrote:
And Abu, why do you keep challenging and taking out i-mobile cameraphone to compare here?? Isn't there a photo thread for that phone also?

Please read the thread from yesterday. I was just pointing out that plankgatan was not correct about low-light/night photos. He then challenged me to produce a night shot equally sharp to one which he claimed where the result of PhotoShop faking. Ironic considering that a lot of people have accused him of doing the same since he's unwilling to show his raw, unadulterated shots.

And if its camera quality surpassed k850i I bet its battery juice will be sucked out in 1/2 a day of shooting compared to the k850i.

You're right actually.

The power consumption of the CCD sensor is the reason for why i-mobile put a fairly large battery in this small phone, 1100 mAh.

Also, CMOS sensor might not lose to CCD sensor, only I think SE did some marketing on cameraphones. (As in not producing very good sensor so as not to overtake current DC sales.)

Probably true also. The management of Sony will not need to loose sleep over the risk that the K850i could ever compete with Sony's P&S cameras.

Posted by Bryan84
Is there a different between:

- Setting the resolution to 5MP; Snapping a Photo; Then resize to a lower resolution (e.g. 800x600) on computer

compared to:

- Setting the resolution to 3 or 1MP; Snapping a Photo; Then resize to a lower resolution (e.g. 800x600) on computer

?

Posted by LCARS-Expert

On 2007-11-02 13:50:39, Bryan84 wrote:
Is there a different between:

- Setting the resolution to 5MP; Snapping a Photo; Then resize to a lower resolution (e.g. 800x600) on computer

compared to:

- Setting the resolution to 3 or 1MP; Snapping a Photo; Then resize to a lower resolution (e.g. 800x600) on computer

?

There is, 5MP photo takes more detail and when you reduce it's size to 3MP it looks sharper and more detailed than picture that was originally 3MP.

Posted by Bryan84

On 2007-11-02 13:55:23, LCARS-Expert wrote:

There is, 5MP photo takes more detail and when you reduce it's size to 3MP it looks sharper and more detailed than picture that was originally 3MP.

Gosh! Maybe now I know why my photos sux .. cause I have been taking them at 1MP thinking that size I will resize the size on the computer, I might as well do it on the phone.

But ^^ is not true right?

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Posted by Bryan84
These are the "bad" shots that I took using 1MP settings.

Auto Settings

Macro +0.7 exp

Auto Settings

I thought by setting to 1MP on camera, I do not have to resize so much on the computer. But seems like the above user to my previous question said there is a difference.

Are these shots bad?
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Posted by marinedisco
Just got mine. I am happy so far with the quality..

Posted by marinedisco
One from the street...

Posted by Bryan84
Marco Shot

Document Setting

Auto Setting, ISO 100

I think I like the first photo the most.

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Posted by mongoose3800
I am still sooooo disappointed that none you guys will post your fantastic K850 photo's at full res in the esato Mobile Phone Photo Gallery at http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/ . Come on, please show us your photo's at full res. Or, are you ashamed to show them?

Posted by tai020381

On 2007-11-02 15:18:00, mongoose3800 wrote:
I am still sooooo disappointed that none you guys will post your fantastic K850 photo's at full res in the esato Mobile Phone Photo Gallery at http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/ . Come on, please show us your photo's at full res. Or, are you ashamed to show them?

I did show some full resolution photos here didn't I???

Posted by tai020381

On 2007-11-02 15:55:05, Bryan84 wrote:
Is there a different between:

- Setting the resolution to 5MP; Snapping a Photo; Then resize to a lower resolution (e.g. 800x600) on computer

compared to:

- Setting the resolution to 3 or 1MP; Snapping a Photo; Then resize to a lower resolution (e.g. 800x600) on computer

?

Didn't you just got your answer on the top of the page?................... Or you just suffered from temporary memory loss???....

Posted by Bryan84
No sorry. I was hoping for more users to reply.

So in case they did not see since it's at the top.

Apologise for that.

Posted by elementz

Tot there are a few full res pics in the last few pages?? Why do you guys keep harping on this??

Posted by fullforce
auto mode, macro,Best pic, photo DJ autolevel

auto mode, photo DJ autolevel, reduced in size with 5%

auto mode, photo DJ autolevel, reduced in size with 3%

Posted by AbuBasim
@fullforce,

I noticed your photos are 800x600. Does BestPic give you full 5 MP photo size?

PhotoDJ? Is that the built-in photo editor in the phone?

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Posted by fullforce

On 2007-11-02 18:28:42, AbuBasim wrote:
@fullforce,

I noticed your photos are 800x600. Does BestPic give you full 5 MP photo size?

PhotoDJ? Is that the built-in photo editor in the phone?

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Well i seems that photoDJ makes thepicture file larger than the original picture file. I havent noticed that the photos are 800x600. But when i first started trying best pic i think that the files got smaller and i thought that the shots got somethin like 3 MP resolution or slightly higher. (don't know if the picure's size also got smaller) C�nfising answer? Well i don't know how it works

Photo DJ is the bulit in photo editor yes. I miss the possibilty to use "sharpen" in photo DJ. I had that possibility in me nokia N73.

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Posted by plankgatan
i have the stabilisator ON all time....gets better pictures so..(i tried whitout, but i didnt get better)

@mongoose3800.....take a hike...im so bored with your nagging about full size.......(im sure you find full size pictures if you search on google)

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