Posted by SE-Naz
This thing about the K850i seems to be going round n round....
Just to let you know I have had 2 N95's when they 1st came out... it was not that good... the pics have improved with the updated firmwares... Just like the K850i will do to...
This is for people to post pics of they have taken... and realistic terms if you want to take excellent pics that have limited or no noise... GET a DIGITAL CAMERA... and stop writing the same ol CR*P comments everywhere...
People have their own opinions what looks good, this is not the place for it... this is for the K850i Pics ONLY....
Sorry to be so abrupt, this is really getting annoying now...
Just to confirm im not a lover of NOKIA or SE... I will chose what I prefer and what suits me... in this case its the K850i............. by miles compared to the N95.
Cheers
ENJOY
Posted by goldenface
Thank you SE-Naz
It'll be nice to have just one thread on Esato where we can enjoy our new toys in peace and quiet.
Posted by SE-Naz
NP goldenface...
I have been a member for a long time, and what is happening now... didnt happen a few years ago, its getting bad.
Im not sayin people shouldn't voice there views, of course, but to go round and round till there blue in the face about what is better.
At the end of it all it will not persude anyone which way to go.... People have there own minds and will decide. Also whether you like it or not SE is doing very well here in the UK. All my friends have SE phones. None of them have even touced the N95 due to the BATTERY alone.
Cheers
ENJOY
Posted by fullforce
On 2007-10-31 12:36:16, goldenface wrote:
Or as the saying goes, 'A bad workman always blames his tools'.
I'm looking forward to tweaking the settings to get the best out of the cam.
Or as we say: Skit bakom spakarna- Roughly translated: Crap behind the buttons. Hmm not sure if you can translate that word for word. Let me know if i got through since english is not my native tounge.
And as others said: Let us enjoy our toys in peace. We like our K850 kindergarten just fine!
Posted by tianlye
Here's some picture of mine.
Please comment on it and maybe some tips along the way?
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Posted by fullforce
@tianlye
Please choose "Attach picture" when posting. You see it just above the "submit" button. Then we can see the pics in larger size emediately.
Posted by tianlye
@fullforce.
Sorry about that, I wanted to but at the same time I feel that some people might want to see the full size or something.
Posted by fullforce
On 2007-10-31 18:21:46, tianlye wrote:
@fullforce.
Sorry about that, I wanted to but at the same time I feel that some people might want to see the full size or something.
No need to be sorry. I might stupid because i can't get the pic "big"/full size.
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Happy christmas and a merry new year
The shots look better in larger size
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Posted by sandy4464
Looong time reader, first time poster here.
Had the K850i since monday now, and am loving it, just thought i'd share some photos i took yesterday, they're not too bad, but i need to fiddle with settings a bit to make them better.
Posted by fullforce
Really good pics! You seem to have a nack for photographing.
Posted by indup
nice pics sandy,love the field one,so calming. reminds me of days gone by.
Posted by sandy4464
@fullforce
thanks, its one of my all time fave hobbies
@Indup
i think the days have gone by, that was probably the last sunny day we'll be having till new years now, just rain rain rain after this, lol
Posted by indup
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what are your initial views on the photagrapic ability of the k850?
Posted by sandy4464
well, coming from a D-SLR point of view, the sensor itself seems to do a good job at picking up the images, and taking into account that the optics may not be anything special (lets face it, its a phone
) i'd say it does a pretty damn good job at taking photos.
The processing algorithms do effect the final output, but these can be inproved upon in updates.
But all in all, for the many things this device can do being packed into a small shell, its perfect for me when i don't want, or are able to lug all my massive equipment with me, i see the picture there, i can snap it there!
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Posted by sandy4464
Heres another random picture i took today (I don't know why we have witch balls hanging in our school, lol)
The sharpness isn't super sharp, but the depth of field is hadled very well
Posted by fullforce
Yes i think the camera has great potential and i also think it will get better after a update! I also hopa that the update will fixe the issue of shots are displayed blurry as background pick and when viewing pich in horizontal mode.
Posted by sandy4464
I found that too, it seems to be working in an opposite fashion to most other phones, displaying a full res image, then a low res one after, so the pictures look a but, blah, when showing them back on the phone, but on a computer sceen, much more like it was intened to look
Posted by fullforce
On 2007-10-31 21:01:55, sandy4464 wrote:
I found that too, it seems to be working in an opposite fashion to most other phones, displaying a full res image, then a low res one after, so the pictures look a but, blah, when showing them back on the phone, but on a computer sceen, much more like it was intened to look
Yes i meant that the phone CAN show pics really sharp and crisp but doesn't do that in horizontal mode or as a background pic. Hope they will fix that. Also, do you find it a bit harder to get a macro shot sharp, than with a K800? I do and it was also easier with N73 nokia. With those phones you only had to hold the cam ALMOST perfectly still. Hope they will fix this also.
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Posted by sandy4464
I think thats why that shot below was a bit blurry, i didn't keep perfectly still, but with my W800, i took some fab macro shots, without needing to be as steady. The picture stabilisation can help, but is only activated in certain modes, such as forced flash off, and twilight modes.
I'm sure it can all be fixed, its mostly software related anyways
Posted by fullforce
Yup you have to hold perfectly still to get a sharp shot i macromode. I hope that all this will get throgh to SE so they can fix it. But they shulod have a test/valuation group that reports issues and suggestions to improve the phone.
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Great balls eh?!
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Posted by plankgatan
you can get realy awesome Macro with k850, (with flash or whitout)
here is one whitout flash...the sharpness is stunning
took some new autumn pictures...the colors is realy good...
Posted by sandy4464
Fingers crossed!
it would make sense to have a test group, i'm sure mose people on esato wouldn't mind (hint hint SE
)
but looking back on my W800, and how the camera in that improved through firmware updates, things can only get better.
Posted by sandy4464
@plankgatan
i love autumn for its great orange hues, especially with sunrises and sunsets, very nice.
and the macros produced can be very sharp, just have to be steady, the one i took below was forced flash off, (it fired on auto, and didn't work with the glass of the ball too well
) and i was a bit wobbly. but i took a good maro in document mode (just gotta find a legitimate reason to use document mode now)
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Posted by fullforce
There is no doubt that the cam takes care of the colours fine (already)
And i'm sure that it will be better after the next firmware. Also the macro thingy. I haven't seen any difference when you use stabilisator.
Posted by sandy4464
@fullforce
lol, great balls indeed
i couldn't see much happen with the stabiliser, but i'm used to big proper stabilisers in my SLR's, but you never know
its a bit annoying when friends try to take a picture with it, and don't know how to use it, they don't half press the shutter or anything, then they ask me why the pictures look a bit stupid, hmmm
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Posted by fullforce
Yep. One have to tell them to press halfway down. Buy the way if one are lazy one can try to press the softkey with the camera symbol when taking a shot, then the cam does the focusing(i hope) and everthing by itself. I do think that the time delayed shooter(can't find the right word) takes for ever. But that's ok. That's a way to avoid shaking- to use that one. Also one should find support like a chair, shelf, car door ,rock a buddys head
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Posted by sandy4464
its does indeed focus and shoot all in one with a softkey press, but its just does't feel right to me, hehe
and you mean the self-timer, it does take its time, and why does it have to be the drumstick sound, lol
Posted by fullforce
Yeah self-timer! And i'm supposed to be quite good at english.
There is a big thread here on esato about the next firmware for the K850. It's already to big to read and there isn't a new firmware out yet. But i hope that somebody at SE have read the different issues and wishes. The firmware is very much anticipated!
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Posted by sandy4464
Hehe, tell se, i think time delayed shooter is a cool way to say it. Heres another picture of that lovely sunny yesterday.
Posted by fullforce
@zootzoot
Hehe that almost looked like the moon!
Do you also have a "bathing duck"!? Mine is yellow.
@sandy4464
Ok then it's official- i have invented a new word- Delayed shooter!
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Posted by sandy4464
I thought it looked like an eclipse, boy did i miss that one, lol
you can get lots of interesting pictures like that using the spot metering mode
@fullforce
Delayed Shooter- Definition- The delayment of shooting, i.e shooting of a picture
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Posted by Pitzon
Amazing pictures you guys take. Fun to see
Some more from me
Spooky gas station
Im so happy for my phone. I have said earlier that the pictures look a bit "weak and pale" straight from the phone but itīs so easy to tune in a basic simple photo-program. I always resize the pictures anyway to make them "web-friendly" and easier to mail and so on..
Most of you know this already but i thought i just should show what some easy really quick adjustments och shadows/highlights and some levels can do. Some of them might be a bit over the top but there are alot of details that can be picked up this way. I also like to play around with my photos a bit
Hereīs a motorbike straight from the phone
And the same pic after some quick adjustments
Original
A bit "over the top" but itīs fun to see the difference
Original, quite nice shot this
Fientuned to my liking..
Some other brands add this kind of "hard" tune in the phone and SE seems to have left it up to ourselves. I like it this way though because we are all different and i like to adjust my pictures so they appeal my own eyes and liking.
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Posted by fullforce
Another part of my summer house
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Posted by sandy4464
@Pitzon
very errie looking gas station, reminds me of an O2 advert though, lol
but you've said the exact joy of digital photography you haven't only got one shot at the picture, and creativity can flow too, one day you can be you, the next, you can have wings anf be floating along a street (if you wanted to
)
Posted by fullforce
@Pitzon
Did you use auto level or did you adjust it manually, if so how?
Posted by plankgatan
i have the stabilasatorn ON all time....i get little sharper/better pictures so...(and yes, i have use the camera whitout the stabil....but i allways put it ON again)
Posted by Pitzon
I run the quite simple "AcdSee Pro2" now and if clicking on "shadow/highlights" i get a meny with adjustments. I can manually adjust the different shades and highlights.
All photo programs have this kind of tuning i guess
Im really a novice and just plays around but i have been doing it with all my pictures since i started with digicams. Even "real" digi-pics needs some finetuning before they look really good to my eyes
A quick "autolevels" click often do magic also but i found out that this shadow/highlight tune could do so much more
Posted by plankgatan
@Pitzon....whats the point to use Photo shop, etc
????? (nearly all pictures become good in Photo shop)...no offend.
the biggest challange is to get good pictures directley from the phone.
ps...of course it allways nice to improve your pictures..(example for your photo album at home, etc)...keep up the good work, i just told my opinion.
indoor pics.............so niiice
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Posted by Pitzon
Yes ofcourse thats the best way but you cant discard the amazing powers of photo editing on a computer. Thats the greatest thing with digicams in my opinion
5 seconds for me in acd see and i have a much better picture that i can spend hours of enjoyment watching later on and really be happy for instead of getting annoyed everytime i watch it
Thatīs just how i see it. Maybe i am the worst photographer in the world but there are almost always improvements who could be made
Posted by fullforce
@Pitzon
I don't suppose that the program you use is available for free?
What did you use in that program to tweak that motor cycle shot of yours?
Cheers
edit:
i found it, over 60 pounds. And a 30 days trial. Guess i could try. But i wont' buy it though. I might try the free paintNet software otherwise i will stick to my phones photo DJ.
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Posted by plankgatan
anyone can improve a picture with photo shop so it looks amazing.....but its much harder to create a picture who looks amazing, with just the camera.....(thats what photographing is for me...the challenge to see if you succeed)
once again...only my opinion
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Posted by Pitzon
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I just used the shadow/higlight adjustment for the bike-shot
*Thats right Plankgatan, thatīs what makes a good photographer. I dont argue about that but just wanted to show the other 99% of the people who shoot pictures how easy it is to improve them
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Posted by fullforce
Just messing around a little.
Cool that i could get focus on the "stereo" text
This one was hard for the camera i think
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Posted by Esiaka
Hey!..be a serious guy!!!
This message was posted from a K310i
Posted by fullforce
And with that you mean??
I was actually testing and showing how the focus worked when shooting the leds at a stereo display and the grill of a speaker- i think its hard for a camera to focus on such motifes and i think it did a good job anyway. Sorry if the motifes wheren't to your liking!
This is a photo thread you know...
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Posted by Laxe
On 2007-11-01 00:00:03, plankgatan wrote:
anyone can improve a picture with photo shop so it looks amazing.....but its much harder to create a picture who looks amazing, with just the camera.....(thats what photographing is for me...the challenge to see if you succeed)
once again...only my opinion
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Wow! Really nice and sharp! What profile were you using? Auto? Profile? ISO settings?
Posted by razec
On 2007-11-01 01:21:57, Laxe wrote:
On 2007-11-01 00:00:03, plankgatan wrote:
anyone can improve a picture with photo shop so it looks amazing.....but its much harder to create a picture who looks amazing, with just the camera.....(thats what photographing is for me...the challenge to see if you succeed)
once again...only my opinion
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Wow! Really nice and sharp! What profile were you using? Auto? Profile? ISO settings?
I can only achieve that results on a Cybershot digital camera with CCD sensor and Carl-Zeiss lens - the S40
great shots as usual to plankgatan
Posted by *Jojo*
Images uploaded here in the FORUM should and MUST be photoshop-FREE . . . no alterations should be made with the PICS so as to LEARN how to take sharper images usin' our PLAIN
camfones ! I see NO prudential-reason why EDITING must be done in order to see a NICER-image-upload here 
If so, we should try to compete and compare images taken with Digicams in that case