Posted by Laxe
On 2007-10-29 17:35:00, fullforce wrote:
On 2007-10-29 17:27:15, Laxe wrote:
On 2007-10-29 16:31:04, fullforce wrote:
Well i think that it's often a good idea to put the shot through photo dj. It adds some colour. What do you say? Whitch shot are more close to the real thing in terms of colour and so on?
Well I did the auto-levels on PhotoDJ, then increased the contrast a few notches and also the colour. I think it definitely makes the photo sharper as the original one looks a bit 'white-washed'.
Yes thats the "problem" that the shots get "white-washed" when you take them with auto-mode. One wants to get the shots as close to the real thing as possible off course. I would like to have the option "sharpen" as i had in my nokia. But hey, i'm not complaining! It's going to take a little while before one knows how to get the best out of the camera. But it's fun to learn!
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That shot I tweaked was taken with landscape mode on. Not auto. Auto is ok but this is the first photo I've tweaked so I'll do some more experimenting and see what I find.
Posted by fullforce
@Laxe
Yup, that's the way to go! Experiment....and pray that you don't get dust specks in the camera(see the thread Dusty K805). Sorry i don't mean to be a joy killer.
On other question i have, to all, is will the stabilizer mode make the shots worse in any way? Because i notice that you have to have a really steady hand when shooting. Otherwise the shot will get blurred for sure.
Posted by Laxe
Well mine's ok so far - had it for a week and a bit now. There's slight dust behind the led lights but not the actual lens. I'm not bothered about the lights either so it's been ok so far.
Posted by fullforce
That's good.
Anyhow i will buy this one once it gets out here.
http://krusell.se/product.php?productID=2791&category=5
Posted by plankgatan
Stockholm i mitt hjärta, låt mig besjunga dig nu..trala lalala
Holiday................
realy cool shop...Monkeys
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Posted by fullforce
@plankgatan Neeeeeej! Not that song!:)
Well i think you can take quite acceptable night shots with the K850
This one has been put trough photo DJ..don't know if it did much though
Yes we have pyramids in Sweden too!!
Looking on the inside of the pyramid. It's actually a restaurant.
Put through photo DJ. (Didn't do much difference here either i think)
This one is "straight frpm the camera)
Posted by Laxe
On 2007-10-29 21:55:42, plankgatan wrote:
Stockholm i mitt hjärta, låt mig besjunga dig nu..trala lalala
Holiday................
realy cool shop...Monkeys
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-10-29 20:56 ]
Wow! Very nice! What kind of settings did you use for these? We need to start giving feedback on what settings to use for daylight/cloud/night etc.
Posted by plankgatan
the main "setting" is the light...(so damn important on cell phones)....and change the ISO and often use Daylight (even it isnt sunshine...gives better colors)
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Posted by indup
all photos normal/regular settings.
Posted by fullforce
That one in the middle is very nice and detailed. Try run it throgh photo DJ("auto-fix") and post a comparasement between "before and after" here!
Posted by indup
sorry fullforce ,ive never used photo dj i havent a clue what to do with it.
Posted by fullforce
when viewing the pic choose "edit in photo DJ"(or what it says in english) snd then choose auto edit or auto level. Then after pressing that, choose "back" and then you will be asked if you want to save- choose yes and then choose save as new(so that you have the old pic to compare with)
Posted by indup
here you go ,i think
original
photo dj
Posted by indup
so photo dj "fixes" the photo to how it thinks the photo should be?
and if this is the case should you run every photo you take through photo dj?
Posted by fullforce
Good job!
In this case i didnt' do that much, and it wasn't needed. If you look att the grass at the bottom of the fence in the far right in the shoot you can see an slight improvement. See it?
Well it fixes the shots as the camera/phone thinks it should be. But sometimes one might feel that it doesn't do much or actually does the shot worse. It's also a matter of personal preference. I don't think i will run every pic through it. I will only do it when i feel like it might need an improvement, and then see if it actually got better.
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Posted by indup
the differences i see are darkening of various aspects such as: the dark colours on the bridge pillar; the darkening of the shadow on the far-side river bank; and darkening of the water; and darkening of the brickwork on the building in the background.
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Posted by fullforce
Yup. I took o night shot this evening and runned it through photo DJ and i prefered the shot before photo dj. It made the shot a little darker, perhaps in order to reduce a little distortion. But in this specific shot i prefered to seee more detail and keep the (little) distortion. It's as i said very often a matter of personal preference. But it's nice to have many options! Are those shots taken in England?
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Posted by indup
On 2007-10-30 00:43:22, fullforce wrote: Are those shots taken in England?
salford, manchester.
Posted by fullforce
@indup
Ok. I noticed that it was autumn where you live also. But you don't get our cold winters
@impy78
Ajaj where have you been!?
Posted by tai020381
auto mode
macro
Posted by zootzoot
A quick pic i took from the car...
Posted by fullforce
Nice! Steady hands or did you lean the phone against the car door?
Posted by zootzoot
On 2007-10-30 19:54:20, fullforce wrote:
Nice! Steady hands or did you lean the phone against the car door?
No just put my hand out and pressed the button....
Posted by zootzoot
one more for halloween
Posted by fullforce
I struck gold!...in my book shelf
Posted by razec
On 2007-10-30 15:45:56, tai020381 wrote:
macro
The best macro quality i've ever seen
it reminds me of this:
http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]wphotos.php?pid=1820&make=sony
Posted by fullforce
I actually find it hard to get really sharp shots i macro mode. Compared to SE K800 and nokia N73 it much harder. It can be done off course but you have to hold reeeeally still. I think/hope that the next firmware will adress this.
Posted by plankgatan
once again.....find/use the maxium/correct light on your object....its ABSOLUTE the most important with cell phone cameras..........
when you get that...the sharpness comes (nearly)automatic in all pictures.........
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Posted by fullforce
On 2007-10-31 00:53:47, plankgatan wrote:
once again.....find/use the maxium/correct light on your object....its ABSOLUTE the most important with cell phone cameras..........
when you get that...the sharpness comes (nearly)automatic in all pictures.........
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-10-30 23:57 ]
Jaja you are surely right. But it was never a hussle to take a good macro shot with K800 or N73. I'm just saying that. I'm sure we all will learn how to do it better, and that later firmwares will make it easier to take macro with tip top quality. I just don't see the point in why it has to be a hussle when it wasn't that before. Don't get me wrong- i love this phone. I just think that, as it have been with many other phones, it could get even better with later firmwares.
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Posted by drsoran2
@ razec look at the bottom of page 42 of this thread, there you find some more great macro shots, taken by myself
@ plankgatan just out of curiosity: Does this "Stockholm i mitt hjärta, låt mig besjunga dig nu..trala lalala" out of one of your postings mean something like "Stockholm in mid autumn, let me sing on that now...trala lalala" in English? (I tried to guess your Swedish in German and then translated it back to English, because I can't speak Swedish, so this may not be exactly right). And also from your quote "Sweden fur alle". You know, except for the "Sweden" which is English, the rest is exactly the same as in German (but the two little dots on the "u" are missing). Well, so far for the language. Write me something more in Swedish and I will try to guess it again
Posted by mib1800
why not post full size photos so that everyone can enjoy them?
Posted by drsoran2
how? with imageshack?
Posted by razec
On 2007-10-31 05:09:29, drsoran2 wrote:
how? with imageshack?
in the cameraphone sample picture's section at the home page
Posted by DarKMaGiCiaN
so lots of people is asking for the full size pics !!!
OK then take this ^_*
[img=http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3281/dsc00861eo0.th.jpg]
[img=http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2310/dsc00841br6.th.jpg]
[img=http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3936/dsc00837gt8.th.jpg]
[img=http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3350/dsc00786zo2.th.jpg]
Posted by AbuBasim
The 800x600 shots look nice! Are these straight from the phone or scaled down in PC?
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Posted by ryanchg
On 2007-10-31 07:43:10, AbuBasim wrote:
The 800x600 shots look nice! Are these straight from the phone or scaled down in PC?
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-10-31 06:43 ]
It's scaled down to the minimum requirements at 800x640 by the forum board.
the actual size would be 2592x1944.
Posted by mib1800
DarKMaGiCiaN
some of your picts are still resized.
Posted by DarKMaGiCiaN
Sorry but I dont know why these two pics resized to 800X600 in imageshack where they are in actual size in my machine !!
Any way here are the link for the two pics in full size
http://www.bof3d.com/up/get-10-2007-bof3d_com5k83tn0c.JPG
http://www.bof3d.com/up/get-10-2007-bof3d_comsg7o1jb2.JPG
Posted by plankgatan
@DarKMaGiCiaN.....ha ha ha....eat this mib1800....maybe he stop with his nagging about full size pictures...
they looks realy good in full size....(like i said before...even a £300 digi cam have noice in their full size pictures)
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Posted by mib1800
[edited/deleted]. - sorry for being rude. My bad.
Thanks DarKMaGiCiaN for posting full-sized picts.
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Posted by goldenface
@mib1800
This is an enthusiasts thread for posting K850i pictures. Have you nothing better to do than sneer and snipe at people? It would be nice to see some of your own pictures for a change, ya big lemon.
Posted by goldenface
Great pictures are possible with the K850i. Not saying they are the best ever, but this shot is credible.
Great stuff!
Posted by plankgatan
@DarKMaGiCiaN.......this full size pictures is realy awesome..(they blow everything away).
actaully im surprised, i didnt thought they should have that sharpness...(amazing quality).
i can also admit that k850 is fairly hard to shoot with.. it takes some work to get pictures like DarKMaGiCiaN...
Posted by chombos1
great pics!!!
i have not used a k850 yet.
but as i can see more people are complaining about the washed out colors of the pics.
the same problem was on the k800 earlier. but after some time using my K800 and playing around with it, now i think it has the best 3.2mp camera.
the washed out colors is somthing related to the white balance and noise reduction algorithm. (the latter has big effect on the colors).
but if you master your phone capabilities, you can take the best pic!!!
for example, the color problem can be solved by changing the white balance to Daylight.(that was the case for k800).
(i hope these minor problems to be fixed soon)!
even if you have a Multi mega pixel super high end digicam and do not know how to take a pic you can not say that the device can not take pics.
Posted by goldenface
Or as the saying goes, 'A bad workman always blames his tools'.
I'm looking forward to tweaking the settings to get the best out of the cam.
Posted by LCARS-Expert
I've noticed that my K850i takes really good indoor pictures if I set the correct light setting, everything else can stay on default. The improvement is rather visible.
Posted by mib1800
On 2007-10-31 07:08:18, plankgatan wrote:
this full size pictures is realy awesome..(they blow everything away).
Seriously, I think K850 sensor is very noisy and pict is nothing to shout about.
Compare this taken with K850 (from DarKMaGiCiaN)
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00861eo0.jpg
and following i took with my N95 way back
http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01052007131wa7.jpg
Even in daylight, K850 sensor exhibits a lot of noise and chromatic abberations.
http://www.bof3d.com/up/get-10-2007-bof3d_comsg7o1jb2.JPG
compared to the one with my N95 from few months back taken in daylight.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48//01042007039fk7.jpg
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Posted by goldenface
Save that for another thread.
Do you really have to challenge someone everytime the say the K850i takes a good pic? its only their opinion you know, for christsake.
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Posted by impy78
On 2007-10-30 15:26:47, fullforce wrote:
@impy78
Ajaj where have you been!?
Hehe, I work at a West End Theatre, and I have to walk through Soho (London) to get to my bus!!!