Posted by AbuBasim
@plankgatan,
Try Paint Shop Pro. It's cheap and good. Not as good as Photoshop, but then, who would expect this when the price difference is about 5:1.
I scaled down the photo without sharpening, just to show that sharpening had been applied.
Here's a version with mild sharpening applied and saved with low compression (4 percent) in Paint Shop Pro:
Here's a crop from both your version (left side) and the above (right side):
Looking closely, it actually looks like the compression on your images is too high, not the sharpening. Do you save the scaled JPEGs also with MS Paint?
Posted by plankgatan
@AbuBasim...i only see some little different when you zoom,
i didnt thought 2 different shrinking-methods hade some quality-effect...(i never use photo shop...
salih...i tried that...i shrinked one pic in jpeg...one pic in bmp 24....but i didnt see any different
i cant complain...the pictures look often good in full size to
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Posted by SaLiH
@plankgatan
Compare them directly and you will sure see the difference, and more compression on jepg photo.
Posted by plankgatan
this is from abu
this is from myself
its little better colors in abus, (but in abus zoom pics you see
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(actaully, im realy satisfield with this picture..the colors are amazing i think...it tells how good k850 realy is)......
pss....maybe i see little better shrpness to, im not realy sure..THANKS FOR THE TIP...
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Posted by davidsic
Posted by AbuBasim
What are those? Potatoes?
Posted by dcuk
On 2007-11-15 13:11:58, AbuBasim wrote:
@plankgatan,
Try Paint Shop Pro. It's cheap and good. Not as good as Photoshop, but then, who would expect this when the price difference is about 5:1.
Or if it's any help,
there's GIMP 2.4.1 (completely free (never anything to pay) Open Source)
http://www.gimp.org/
it's nearly as powerful as Photoshop,
Direct download link (for Windows 2000, XP & Vista version):
http://downloads.sourceforge.[....]-win/gimp-2.4.1-i686-setup.exe
(easy install only one download file 14.4 MB)
there's also Mac & Linux versions (please see main GIMP site, link above.)
Posted by davidsic
Posted by plankgatan
@davidsic.....realy nice pictures...
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took a nice one to
..(can you believe that this coosy place is where my daughter have her day nursery...realy old but lovely houses)
the flash is realy powerful, (the light sensor do a good job
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Posted by davidsic
Thank you plankgatan, i also like yours
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Posted by michka
@abu: not potatoes, but beet.
Posted by joemax
The JPEG noise on the roof edges is horrible - even though you reduced the image.
Posted by borg_
Casio
Posted by plankgatan
@joemax...i dont realy care if "the roof" have some noice...i like the picture. think it looks realy good....(why are you complaing about this ????? maybe i could use photo shop to shrink with, (like abu said, and get less noice), but you know what, i dont care if some edges have little noice, its a cell phone for the love of god.
Posted by *Jojo*
H m m m m m . . . I've seen this thread MOVE very swiftly since DAY 1 and I haven't SEEN a SINGLE image that has a date-stamp-option in ON mode . . .
Does this camfone STILL has this feature 
Answer, planks !
Posted by kjao
time stamp has been removed since the k810 upgrade.
on a different note...i thought we were not supposed to submit shots that have been tweaked in photoshop/paint/gimp on this thread?
Posted by AbuBasim
On 2007-11-16 01:20:59, joemax wrote:
The JPEG noise on the roof edges is horrible - even though you reduced the image.
Actually because of having reduced the image using MS Paint. When you save JPEG files in Paint it applies a very strong compression. Most other photo editing software would allow controlling the amount of compression. I use mainly Paint Shop Pro for shrinking photos and it has a built-in optimizer where you can see how the photo would look with any chosen compression, and the range being 1-100. I usually don't pick higher than 15.
On 2007-11-16 04:26:08, kjao wrote:
on a different note...i thought we were not supposed to submit shots that have been tweaked in photoshop/paint/gimp on this thread?
It depends on what tweaking you're talking about. Sharpening is needed when shrinking photos, otherwise the photo turn out too soft with very little detail remaining. MS Paint applies sharpening automatically, but then applies too much compression when saving as JPEG so the end result look very noisy.
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Posted by plankgatan
i tried to shrink with photo shop today...abu, you was right..Paint did a quite bad job, you get sharper edges with photo shop...thanks for the tip
looks even good in full size to
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/528/kopiaavdsc03458uk6.jpg
this morning it was realy cloudy weather...not the same glow in the pictures
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Posted by plankgatan
sunset Nordich winter
christmas is coming
fish & crabb market
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Posted by Alfaro
all settings auto
Posted by plankgatan
a tip...when you shoot Macro in daylight..use iso.100 + zoom 2-3 clicks, (the camera find best focus in that way...
...and of course, keep the phone realy steady
Posted by LCARS-Expert
Cold morning
Posted by fullforce
Jepp we have pyramids in my country too
inside the pyramid
Posted by Pitzon
Nice pictures
One thing and a little trick i often use with my digicam is to set the self-timer when you snap pictures. Itīs easier to hold the phone steady if you dont need to press down the shutter-button at the picture moment.
This works really good but itīs a bit sad that there arenīt any "2 sec" delay option in the K850i as in most "real" digicams. Just the 10 second one and that is a bit to long for using this method. Feels like an eternity
Posted by fullforce
Jupp but there is another option! Use the touch key to let the cam take focus an fire. Try it!
Posted by *Jojo*
On 2007-11-16 21:14:45, plankgatan wrote:
christmas is coming
@planks - This is so SHARP
considering it's an INDOOR-shot !
Posted by plankgatan
thanks mate...(k850 is a real indoor king ..n
doubt about that)
ps....looks good in full size to ..he he
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Posted by Pitzon
On 2007-11-17 00:13:27, fullforce wrote:
Jupp but there is another option! Use the touch key to let the cam take focus an fire. Try it!
Yes i know but this way you cant use the "Lock focus method" you know when you press the shutter button down half-way and the cam measure the focus and locks it. This is used for controling what part of the picture / object you want to have in focus.
On this picture for example i stood up and focused on the boats and held the button half way for locking the focus and then i crouched down before i took the shot. This way the boats should be in focus and the "grass" being out of focus. If you had shot that picture with the touch button method the "grass" would be in focus instead since you dont can control that
Posted by fullforce
Nice shot! I see your point, but what i meant was that you can use that method if you have shaky hands.
Posted by DJ Teknosys
Just got my k850i a few days ago, still getting used to it....
Posted by Digelius
Posted by plankgatan
this first indoor pic is awesome....k850 blow every cell phone away in indoor pictures......
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flash pics....great feature i think
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Posted by *Jojo*
On 2007-11-17 16:52:29, DJ Teknosys wrote:
Just got my k850i a few days ago, still getting used to it....
@dj - I really LIKE this one . . . very Christmas indeed !
Posted by LCARS-Expert
A document shot (railway ticket):
Finally some snow:
This bird is called "Great tit" (majority would be...
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Posted by daviep
my dinner last night
my cat
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Posted by fullforce
@LCARS-Expert
You have snow allready? And i live much more north from you.
We call those birds- talgoxe and if you translate that word for word you would get something like- tallow ox. Because we hang upp pieces of fat or lard in the trees in the wintertime for them to nibble on. So the great tit nibbles? Hmmm indeed
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Posted by yyzxmn
Lit by a single 40w bulb 60cm away and 25cm above. All setting at Auto. Flash/Stabiliser off.
Seems to take macro better shots. Tried same shot further away but details got lost (poss. fault of handshake.)
Posted by LCARS-Expert
@fullforce
Its snowing for 2 days without stop now. This is rather early snow for this area. Usually it snows but nothing catches for the ground.
Posted by borg_
Christmas Tree 2007 - Faro
Posted by n4d3r
Please tell me what you think of these picture i took with my k850i
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Posted by marinedisco
These picture keep getting better and better!!!!This page is very creative. My hat is off to all of you!!! Funny we don't see a N95 thread dedicated for photo's like this somewhere...
Posted by plankgatan
indoor
Posted by *Jojo*
Nice pics ! Christmas Season is really - here
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@davi - Yuuuuuummy ! The burger and fries and NOT the cat mate . . .
Posted by Sobo
good pics n4d3r nice one with the house and trees...
damn good pictures,plankgatan has some competition around here
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Posted by technical-expert
@borg
excellent picture, the pic seems to be almost noisless,was there noise in full sized picture.
@plankgtan
Dont u have red eye enabled?
@n4d3r
Great picture,the sillhoute,did u use manual settings?
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Posted by *Jojo*
@digelius - Nice shots back there matey . .. I overlooked at those . . . when I saw your last 2 UPLOADS (bldg. under construction . . .) I thought it was plank's post
Posted by borg_
@arunvc for a phone/camera photo the noise in full resolution it's not very bad.
The photo was taken almost in total darkness, and i think that is pretty good
Posted by n4d3r
On 2007-11-19 00:31:30, arunvc wrote:
@n4d3r
Great picture,the sillhoute,did u use manual settings?
Thanks, i used the Beach/Snow setting with Focus set to infinite and white balance set to Day Light.
Posted by Alfaro
On 2007-11-17 22:24:18, plankgatan wrote:
this first indoor pic is awesome....k850 blow every cell phone away in indoor pictures......
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-17 21:30 ]
hey plankgatan... did you use the red-eye reduction?? take a look in the red eyes...
Posted by plankgatan
guess one time...no i didnt use the blink..blink, blink bliiiiiiiiink