Posted by bavlondon2
So is it not true then what Apple are saying that whenevery a new firmware update is released the phone will undo all the work done to unlock it? Im interested but dont want to be stuck to using the same firmwre version if updates are released.
Posted by smilerthe cheshirecat
It does appear to be true what Apple have said... it would just have to be a wait and see what the iPhone hacking community come up with to allow the user to update beyond version 1.0.2
Although in the update to 1.1.1, it does not seem to have been totally value added to the iPhone... iTunes store download being the main addition
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Posted by bavlondon2
So in theory if Apple release 10 updates over the course of the year I would have to get it re-unlocked 10 times? That doesnt sound very practical.
Not being funny or anything but it looks like Apple have found a way to make people who want this on other networks pay big time for it if they arnt going to sign up for the contract.
I know for a fact that at the time of US release Apple mentioned that they will release firmware updates over the next 24 months. With so many things missing and apparantly going to be fixed through firmware updates would it really be worthwile getting one sim free to unlock if you will need to constantly be unlocking it every time a new update is out.
I dont know what the Apple community will come up with but either way its an expensive deal.
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
apple dont sell them sim free, not even the hardware unlock has been proven to withstand the new firware.
Um also apple probally wont release a new firmware update every month, possibly every 6 is a more likely senario
Posted by Ridahz
Does the hardware unlocking still let the iphone work on all nets dispite updates?
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
I don't know
amnesia should know
by the way it costs nothing to do a software update
Posted by amnesia
basically the software unlock gives people the 'unkown sim' error. Even AT&T sims don't work after that.
But the Hardware unlock allows you to go back to your AT&T sim as if nothing happened. So you're safe.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Well you will just have t wait and see if I am right or not and can force Apple or 02 to have to unlock the iPhones they sell in the UK as once unlocked by them updating will no longer prove a problem. But as i have previously said if you want to be able to definitely unlock your iPhone and customize it you will need to buy 1.02 Firmware import and just not update.
Luke sorry for the off thread post but a free bump anyway for your what i would think will be your 1.02 iPhones.
Marc
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Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
good shout.
Not to worry man, the more info I have on it the better.
Um also worth noting that you can down downgrade the firmware, but the phoen cannot make calls, I assume that apple has changed the firmware on the chips or whatever
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Luke,
Yeah Apple really proved with the Touch they were about to change the game as they made some major changes to the encryption they were using and i believe a few other software changes. Which is what once the Dev teams were reporting they couldn't gain access any longer and where unable to do anything with the Touch was the writing on the wall as to what was coming for the iPhone.
They only thing i really don't get is everyone was warned not to update and the update really offered very little other than buying iTunes over WiFi yet so many with unlocked and customized iPhones still went ahead and updated. These are the same people that are now moaning about there messed up iPhones i mean really what did they expect just makes no sense to me at all.
Marc
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Posted by Ridahz
On 2007-09-30 20:05:23, Dogmann wrote:
Hi Luke,
Yeah Apple really proved with the Touch they were about to change the game as they made some major changes to the encryption they were using and i believe a few other software changes. Which is what once the Dev teams were reporting they couldn't gain access any longer and where unable to do anything with the Touch was the writing on the wall as to what was coming for the iPhone.
They only thing i really don't get is everyone was warned not to update and the update really offered very little other than buying iTunes over WiFi yet so many with unlocked and customized iPhones still went ahead and updated. These are the same people that are now moaning about there messed up iPhones i mean really what did they expect just makes no sense to me at all.
Marc
They thought Apple were bluffing probably.
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
yeh, to be honnest its tempting just to do it to mess with apple lol.
They really can shoot themselves in the dick sometimes
waiting on word from suppliers at the mo, payment is ready to be send, not sure whats causing the lag
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Luke,
Just a thought but maybe they are finding it hard to source 1.02 firmware iPhones already as they must be getting pretty rare already. I would also imagine this will push their prices up also as will be in short supply and currently the only ones that can be unlocked and customised.
Marc
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Posted by t5chav
This might be of interest to those of you thinking of buying an Iphone.. it's just something else to think about - it hasn't stopped me though mine should be arriving tomorrow..
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=903&tag=nl.e622
Posted by Dogmann
@t5chav
Nice link at least now i know it is Apple i need to target re getting it unlocked and not 02 roll on 9th November when i will have to spend some time in the Apple store reading the T&C's before speaking to OFCOM.
Marc
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Posted by bavlondon2
Im thinking of getting one of these now, but I want to be sure that after any firmware update locks it back up, that im still able to unlock it again?
Thanks
Posted by Dogmann
@bavlondon2
If you have 1.02 Firmware you just don't update the firmware at least not until and if the Dev's team manage to crack the new firmware.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-10-05 10:07 ]