Posted by djtwistter
Hey esato has been a bit dry so time to spice it Just a question, What Was First the Chicken or the Egg just wanted to know what you guys think
Posted by goldenface
Eggs appeared before chickens. Dinosour egg. Crocodile Egg. Snake Egg, Reptile Egg. Fish Egg. If I'm not mistaken, snakes, reptiles, lizards and dinosaurs were all on the earth before chickens were so the egg came first.
Posted by batesie
no the chicken, or the chicken egg? thats the question goldenface
Posted by rule_breaker
The Rooster
Posted by goldenface
@batesie
Well in order for it to be called a Chicken egg, there would have had to be the chicken first.
I'm torn.
There are good strong arguments for both theories. If it is called a Chicken egg, then the Chicken would have to be named first. Otherwise whose else egg would it be?
The question is flawed but I'd put my money on Chicken, what about you and why?
Posted by *Jojo*
Well, accdg. to the Bible, . . . FIRST, there was LIGHT ! Chicken or Egg just followed suit in the restos I guess . . .
Posted by goldenface
So how come the bible doesn't mention dinosaurs?
I remember this thread.
What a laugh.
EDIT: What ever happened to Jim? He was good he was.
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Posted by *Jojo*
On 2007-08-18 01:55:29, goldenface wrote:
So how come the bible doesn't mention dinosaurs?
DINOSAURS were just resuscitated by Steven Spielberg in his - Jurassic Park-sequel films ! During their times . . . nobody cared for them !
Posted by Sir-SonyEricsson-man
The elephant came first since you dont need an egg to make it
Posted by goldenface
Yeah, I bet their are loads in Las V. God I hate you. That trip is gonna be so wild.
I'm so envious.
Did you know that there are more Tigers in captivity that there are in the wild? More Tigers in peoples front gardens?
Eggs all the way
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Posted by max_wedge
well, this is a hard question because the chicken basically evolved slowly overtime from dinousaurs. And dinosaurs evolved from something else, so you have to go back to the very first life on earth. Now the first life evolved spontaneously as far as we know from the primeval "soup". So actually soup came first
In that soup the first life was composed of single cell organisms. Now single cell organisms are a bit like eggs: they have a protein rich centre surrounded by a cytoplasmic fluid contained by a membrane (the shell). From these single cell animals evolved all life on earth.
So I reckon the Egg came first.
Posted by belialwafu
guys my teacher said it's the chicken...remember noah's ark? thats it he saved a pair of each animal and all the animals that are not in the ark died...so its the chicken
Posted by govigov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_or_egg
Definitions
In this case, the egg is assumed to be a chicken's egg. This is an obvious assumption since the question itself implies a link between the two.
If one assumes the egg to be a chicken egg then one must define what a chicken egg is:
If: A chicken egg will hatch a chicken
Then a bypass is allowed: An animal that was not a chicken laid the chicken egg which contained the first chicken. In this case the egg came first.
If: A chicken egg is the egg that a chicken lays
Then a bypass is allowed: A chicken (that hatched from a non-chicken egg) laid an egg (a chicken egg).
If: A chicken egg will hatch a chicken and was laid by a chicken
Then there may be an error of definition. If the definition of "chicken" used does not refer to "chicken eggs," then the chicken must come first, because without chickens there cannot be any chicken eggs.
If: The question didn't specify that the egg had to be a chicken egg
Then we could easily say that the egg came first, because fish had been laying eggs long before chickens were around.
If: The chicken came first because it had to hatch the egg
Then the riddle would make more sense, but would still be debated.
sorry guys.....
Posted by *Jojo*
The REPLIES are getting looooooooooooooonger than expected . . . maybe we can have a WORD with the legendary MAN himself . . . Col. Sanders
Posted by max_wedge
again from wiki:
"Syntax: One can consider the question inside the framework of experience, making the question concrete instead of abstract: "The chicken or the egg - which came first?" "The chicken" came first - in the sentence of the question. If the question is phrased differently, the answer is different."
Posted by goldenface
On 2007-08-18 03:06:57, max_wedge wrote:
So actually soup came first
In that soup the first life was composed of single cell organisms.
So your saying that Chicken Soup came first?
My reasoning is (god help me) that human beings, Homo Sapiens or Neanderthal Man, in their first use of basic modern language, would have had to NAME the creature as a Chicken, before they could say the egg belonged to a Chicken. Does that make sense?
So, by that reckoning, the Chickens Egg couldn't have appeared unless the creature it came from was called a Chicken in the first place.
I rest my case
I think its called logic. Chicken all the way. Go Chicken, Go Chicken...
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Posted by *Jojo*
On 2007-08-18 03:46:45, goldenface wrote:
So, by that reckoning, the Chickens Egg couldn't have appeared unless the creature it came from was called a Chicken in the first place.
. . . when I was in elementary school, we have this classmate whom we CALL - chicken (because he was always AFRAID of kiddie-fights . . .) ! Does that MEAN that our CHICKEN-classmate can LAY eggs too (that time . . . )
. . .
Posted by goldenface
Is he a Marsupial?
Posted by *Jojo*
On 2007-08-18 04:03:43, goldenface wrote:
Is he a Marsupial?
. . . nope, by HIS looks . . . it's more of an EXTRA-TERRESTIAL !
Posted by goldenface
Oh, yeah, and where does his eggs pop out from?
Posted by *Jojo*
from HIS' egg (itself) . . . where do you think it will fall off from - alwy . . .
!
Posted by goldenface
Gawd knows! I aint never seen a bloke lay an egg before.
Posted by *Jojo*
On 2007-08-18 04:28:40, goldenface wrote:
Gawd knows! I aint never seen a bloke lay an egg before.
. . . don't ya worry, it's not that size of an OSTRICH's dude . . . it's more like those in M&M's chocs . . . the miniature ones (miniature eggs) !
Posted by mcrosser
I think chickens came fisrt, because eggs need chickens care to hatch, or else they turn cold and the chicken dies inside.
Posted by belialwafu
On 2007-08-18 05:08:27, mcrosser wrote:
I think chickens came fisrt, because eggs need chickens care to hatch, or else they turn cold and the chicken dies inside.
yes it's right haha!
Posted by rockygali
well according to history and backed up by the bible...
ADAM came with his balls foist before EVE...
therefore, it is EGG! my dear friends....
Posted by belialwafu
no it aint!
Posted by Burgaz
@rockygali
You obviously don't know too much about biology do ya...
Posted by max_wedge
On 2007-08-18 06:58:58, rockygali wrote:
well according to history and backed up by the bible...
ADAM came with his balls foist before EVE...
therefore, it is EGG! my dear friends....
You telling me I got eggs down there...?
Posted by procterdc
I'd say egg. Chickens I think will have evolved from dinosaurs, so at one point a chicken as we know it will have hatched out of an egg.
Posted by *Jojo*
. . . If EGGs came in FIRST and the Sony Ericsson LOGO -
looks like an EGG, we can assume then that Sony Ericsson came in BEFORE - Nokia . . .
Posted by mcrosser
no, nokia is the chicken soup
Posted by Alexandra
The
logo looks like a chicken (if you use your imagination)
So the chicken came before the egg!
Posted by private
eggs at breakfast.
Chicken at lunch.
So, eggs came first.
Posted by k4m!k4ze
whichever you placed the order for first will come first
Posted by NightBlade
I say, pancakes came first!
And then there were the pineapples...
Posted by batesie
On 2007-08-18 01:37:48, goldenface wrote:
@batesie
Well in order for it to be called a Chicken egg, there would have had to be the chicken first.
I'm torn.
There are good strong arguments for both theories. If it is called a Chicken egg, then the Chicken would have to be named first. Otherwise whose else egg would it be?
The question is flawed but I'd put my money on Chicken, what about you and why?
no the chicken was named after the chickin egg
Posted by goldenface
Yeah but how would you know it was a chicken egg unless you knew what was inside it first?
What was the thing that laid the egg called? A feathery thing?
You don't know what its inside the egg, so obviously you can't say if it belonged to a chicken or not. You'd have to boil it first and see if it went nice with soldiers.
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Posted by batesie
no, they just called it a chicken egg, when it opened, they called it a chicken!
Posted by goldenface
But without chickens there would be no chicken's eggs. Replace the word 'eggs' with 'legs' and the same rule applies. Chicken isn't named after it's Chicken's legs, its the other way around.
The creature would have had to be called a chicken first for a chicken's egg to appear otherwise its just a big red bird that lays eggs that tastes good roasted.
Posted by NightBlade
Hmm.. the chicken is a bird, therefore it has evolved from the dinosaurs.
At some point in its evolutional path, in a specifc generation it must have been so different from the dinosaurs that it had to be considered a new species. From then on its eggs would be defined as chicken eggs, rather than dinosaur ones.
Posted by batesie
no aliens put eggs on earth. then they hatched....
Posted by goldenface
Well what came first, the chicken egg or the turkey egg? And why don't we eat turkey eggs. Are they too big?
Posted by djtwistter
egg first?
The reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.
Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.
The living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it would develop into,. The first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg. So, I would conclude that the egg came first
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Posted by belialwafu
So what is the first one?
Posted by $herry
Two cocks came first....one had a sex-change...then came the egg
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Posted by mustafabay
Well if the egg came first and some stupid plodding animal say elephant stepped on it there would be no egg nor chicken. So a hen hatched an egg and well it obviousely was fertilised by a rooster.
Posted by psp476
Well chickens evolved from something else, so whilst they were evolving a not complete chicken layed the egg which inside was the chickens as we know them today...( that could have been random gibberish)
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