Posted by ajeetpv
Any one able to access the site??
Posted by goldenface
I can't either.
It looks like someone has been busy.
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Posted by ajeetpv
Home page of the M-R is accesseble now. But other pages are too slow to open.
Posted by iqtidar
omg! mr is hacked?? lets hack them back... but i dunno how to hack... lol..
i still cant access it...
Posted by Mizzle
I can access now.
F**king iPhone lovers. Wake up and realize that it's not worth shit!
Posted by goldenface
Is that the same thing that happened to sense.net. Seems unusual for both to go down the same time as each other. I had trouble getting on here recently too.
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Posted by jcwhite_uk
Se-nse.net is working ok for me now.
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
i dbout its because they slated the iphone...
more liekly some hacker who wanted to see if he could hack...
the answer seems to be a yes
Posted by voda_jon
se-nse got attacked by team elite... on request of one of their members/former members...
J.
Posted by ajeetpv
Today, again i am not able to access the site.
Posted by SMS
On 2007-08-16 03:43:00, ajeetpv wrote:
Today, again i am not able to access the site.
yes, it have been inaccessible now for more than 12 hours! it looks like another attack.
Posted by iqtidar
i cant access it at all. f**k those hackers!!
Posted by goldenface
I don't understand them, why are they doing it?
Posted by SMS
On 2007-08-16 10:42:01, goldenface wrote:
I don't understand them, why are they doing it?
because of the article Eldar wrote about the iphone, empty headed apple fans!
http://www.intomobile.com/200[....]ue-to-rabid-apple-zealots.html
Posted by goldenface
Wow!
They can't carry it on forever and in the end Mobile - Review will prevail.
Really, I don't hate the iPhone and actually think its good for the industry but if thats the type of behaviour it instills in people then I hope it falls flat on its face. Just what are they trying to achieve with all this? Are they hoping Eldar will release some sort of apology?
Posted by BobaFett
On 2007-08-16 11:02:12, SMS wrote:
On 2007-08-16 10:42:01, goldenface wrote:
I don't understand them, why are they doing it?
because of the article Eldar wrote about the iphone, empty headed apple fans!
http://www.intomobile.com/200[....]ue-to-rabid-apple-zealots.html
if he really wrote that, then he deserved the attack... a site owner / manager isnt there to judge any device ( espcially with such words ), more to offer and show new models, support and help... if its down, his problem... next time he sluold give more attention and sho more respect imo
Posted by goldenface
@boba
What exactly did he write that provoked such a response?
The site is called Mobile Review. It reviews mobiles, its expected that he gives his opinion!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion so no, he didn't deserve that attack.
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Posted by SMS
@BobaFett
he's a review writer, he's supposed to show all the cons and pros of devices! isn't that what a review is for anyway?
Posted by BobaFett
i donnow what he wrote, i responded on that what i read here and in the article... did u ever hear or see laffen to say any negative thing on any device? especially the site owner should give more attention what and how to comment... next to it, se pissed on him already in the past, cos of the constantly reviweing of protos and not on the end-devices...
Posted by SMS
On 2007-08-16 11:29:32, BobaFett wrote:
i donnow what he wrote,
then don't prejudge the guy, I read it, and I think it was reasonable and objective that he showed the postives and the negatives of the device, just like EVERY phone he reviewed!
Posted by goldenface
On 2007-08-16 11:29:32, BobaFett wrote:
i donnow what he wrote, i responded on that what i read here and in the article... did u ever hear or see laffen to say any negative thing on any device?
But Esato isn't a review site and Laffen doesn't review phones like Mobile Review.
If Eldar didn't review phones then he wouldn't have the right to call his site Mobile Review would he?
That site is his livelyhood and people are messing with it - thats what it boils down to.
Posted by BobaFett
look, what counts is the principal. when some members say some opinions about a fone in a thread, then its up to the mods to judge if it fits the mission of the site or not, BUT if the site owner do that ( he has way too more responsibility then a member ), then thats another story... my point of view is based on the facts what i read here. IF thats true, then he went too far imo...
Posted by goldenface
All he did was give his honest opinion. He wouldn't be a very good reviewer if he only said good things about a phone. He's respected because of his honest in-depth reviews.
Whats so special about the iPhone that he can't say a bad thing about it?
He isn't the only person to give their honest opinion. On other sites the iPhone has been slated a rubbish and emaciated with features.
Lets all attack them too shall we?
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Posted by BobaFett
agree, iphone isnt a big deal in my eyes either, but if i were a reviwer, i would give a neaural opinion, mainly focused on the facts and then let it share in the forum to discuss. again, a siteowners words count more imo, cos mr isnt a one man show, so eldars "words" effected now many many other ppl aswell,who cant join the place they visit day by day... if an attack is good or bad, thats another story...
Posted by goldenface
Sorry, I wasn't aware there were other reviewers on Mobile Review, I thought it was just Eldar.
But you're right, its not just Eldar thats affected by this either, what about all the mobile-review members that depend on the site for support and information and interact with their online friends, who buy and sell and other stuff?
Imagine Esato being attacked and going down for days on end?
Doesn't even bear thinking about
Anyway, I honestly don't think Eldar is the bad guy there.
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Posted by BobaFett
i donnow if there are other reviwers aswell, but eldar is mr on some way and mr is eldar. as written above, we just have here some few infos what happened, but everything points on it, that eldar wrote sg, what maybe shouldnt have been written. we ll see
Posted by goldenface
Yeah, I haven't read the review either and I can't wait to see what he penned to bring on such a sustained attack.
Posted by rockygali
well i cant hardly believe it...
even MR has its forum right?! and every forum has rules, one of them is harsh comments... its very basic and a standard on all other forums like ours...
and all boils down to ethics.. im sure if MR lasted thru these years, eldar has his etiquette well in-tack...
and if its really true that mr is under attack, again a wrong doing cannot right another wrong doing...
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Posted by goldenface
Exactly, its pure spite and malice. They must have had a high opinion of MR for them to take his review so seriously.
Posted by SMS
On 2007-08-16 12:10:59, rockygali wrote:
even MR has its forum right?! and every forum has rules, one of them is harsh comments...
yes they have, I'm a very active member there, and the article wasn't harsh at all, if you're interested you can read it here on google cache:
http://72.14.235.104/search?q[....]positioning&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
btw: the FULL review isn't out yet, this was just an introductory article, I wonder what will happen when the full review is out!
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Posted by goldenface
Great, thanks for that, I shall have a read now.
Posted by MWEB
Indeed we have several reviewers actually, and i think we (Mobile-review) are proud of the fact that Eldar and his staff call it EXACTLY how they see it.
The exact source and nature of this attack is actually uncomfirmed by anyone from MR on an official basis.
I liken it to Internet terrorism, Just because some group or individual disagrees with YOUR opinion, they try and eradicate your ability to even GIVE an opinion.
Evil minded bigots such as those who attacked SE-NSE and M-R must not and cannot be allowed to trample on YOUR ability to voice YOUR opinions!!
But like the petty, simple minded infantiles that they are, they will get bored, and move on to the next poor guy who happens to voice an opinion that they lack the courage or intellect to challenge in a manner that befits a rational human being.
Posted by goldenface
Wow!
So Eldar posted a review that let people know exactly what they were getting for their hard earned dollars?
I think most people will agree that the American iPhone would be up for a very hard time when compared to offerings in other parts of the world; I don't exactly know what else they thought Eldar was going to say about it.
If its gonna be billed as the greatest, most amazing device ever then it is going to be scrutinized. No-one (well not many) is daft enough to blindly accept any old rubbish thats thrown at them.
Posted by SMS
On 2007-08-16 15:25:23, goldenface wrote:
I don't exactly know what else they thought Eldar was going to say about it.
applaud and praise its perfection!
they were upset because Eldar opened their eyes to see the fact that they forked over a lot of bucks for only a fancy UI nothing more!
Posted by goldenface
On 2007-08-16 14:39:54, mweb6161 wrote:
Indeed we have several reviewers actually, and i think we (Mobile-review) are proud of the fact that Eldar and his staff call it EXACTLY how they see it.
Well people would expect nothing less; MR has its reputation to think of.
God help us if Eldar advised people to throw away their N95's and consign their HTC's to history in favour of the iPhone, I think I would have attacked him myself
Posted by max_wedge
personally i think the review was balanced and accurate. Each point is set out in black and white - it's the iphones own shortcomings that paint such a poor picture, not the reviewer.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Firstly what they are doing is illegal and nothing short of bullying to stop people saying something they don't like. I hope they don't go to HOWARD forums and see some of the horror stories emerging about iPhone problems on there. As there seem to be plenty the latest i have seen is the famous touch flow strip starting to malfunction and the Finnish company that developed it admitting it can develop reliability problems after just 6 months of use.
Freedom of speech is IMO one of the most basic and important principles we have in the world and anyone that can't bare to hear criticism of any mobile device or anything else for that matter is seriously not well. You don't have to agree with what is said but to over react with this type of behaviour is just wrong. Personally i hope the authorities are involved and track them down and prosecute them with the full force of the law.
@Goldenface
Even if he did it is only his opinion it doesn't mean every one has to agree or do as he suggested do they?
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Posted by SMS
we'd welcome your support and digg this article:
http://www.digg.com/apple/Mobile_Review_DDOSed_by_iPhone_fans
you know these idiots attacked se-nse first, and now MR, who knows who's next; esato, hofo... someone should stop them.
thank you.
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Posted by goldenface
On 2007-08-16 19:07:31, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all,
Firstly what they are doing is illegal and nothing short of bullying to stop people saying something they don't like. I hope they don't go to HOWARD forums and see some of the horror stories emerging about iPhone problems on there. As there seem to be plenty the latest i have seen is the famous touch flow strip starting to malfunction and the Finnish company that developed it admitting it can develop reliability problems after just 6 months of use.
Freedom of speech is IMO one of the most basic and important principles we have in the world and anyone that can't bare to hear criticism of any mobile device or anything else for that matter is seriously not well. You don't have to agree with what is said but to over react with this type of behaviour is just wrong. Personally i hope the authorities are involved and track them down and prosecute them with the full force of the law.
@Goldenface
Even if he did it is only his opinion it doesn't mean every one has to agree or do as he suggested do they?
Marc
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Exactly and well said!
They must have held Eldar in very high regard and were expecting lovely things in the review. The problem for them is, Eldar gave a very honest and common-sense review which was backed up with solid reasoning and they must have been heart-broken to discover he didn't fall for its charms.
Its vitally important that forums and reviewers are allowed to express their opinion freely and this only harden other peoples opinions.
Nobody likes a bully.
Posted by voda_jon
if it is indeed teamelite who brought down Mobile review then there is little anyone can do to stop them.... they use dc++ to redirect people off their hub and onto various websites there members have issues with...
its been done to se-nse but the person who did it was sloppy and hopefully will get what they deserve.... but they r learning and prob will and can attack any site they feel like...
J.
Posted by odelsteken
It's a shame that this has happened but afaik there has been no confirmation from Mobile-Review headquarters that this was done by so called Apple banboys.
For me, being somewhat pro-Apple (not to confuse with fanboyism!!), I'm very sad to see things go this far due to someones dissatisfaction of someone elses opinions.
If this was indeed an action due to the above mentioned review, I believe that the people behind the attack will not be honoured by true Apple fans!
Posted by goldenface
So do you reckon there is a good chance they will be caught and if so what might happen to them?
Posted by Nanu
On 2007-08-16 22:20:27, goldenface wrote:
So do you reckon there is a good chance they will be caught and if so what might happen to them?
Something you wanna get off your chest?
Posted by goldenface
Eh you! It wasn't me.
I hope they are caught.
I aint never read such a good article.
The simple fact is the article has caused so much controversy has ensured an even greater number are waiting to read the next instalments and if they aren't posted on MR then there are thousands of other forums and sites where it can be read.
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Posted by scotsboyuk
Just to clarify, as far as I am aware the people who attacked SE-NSE are not the same people who have been attacking M-R, unless new information has come to light that I haven't seen yet.
Posted by goldenface
@scotty
Funny how they were both attacked around the same time, but probably just coincidence as you say. I hope they get the blighters.
Posted by rockygali
On 2007-08-16 16:43:49, max_wedge wrote:
personally i think the review was balanced and accurate. Each point is set out in black and white - it's the iphones own shortcomings that paint such a poor picture, not the reviewer.
yes of course... for me, i prioritize and respect and firmly believe with the reviews coming MR. because theyre so balanced... they dont make excuses for the shortcomings of the products they review, coz they dont have to, its not their job. What their job is, is to relay all the PROS and CONS of a gadget for the consumer to weight things and decide whether that gadget would fit their needs or not.
i guess it has been that way ever since with MR.
and this attack will only come from those who patronize the product deeply. or merely just a pure coincidence of hacker who has nothing to do and try to knock off a very useful site... very selfish... indeed its a very selfish move on his/her/their part.... whatever!
Posted by tai020381
iPhone fans sure are fierce & unfriendly!!~~ I hope mobile-review get up and back to normal soon. Bless them. It is a good hp site.
Posted by goldenface
I've contacted a couple of news sites about this and also sent them a copy of the review in question. Lets hope it gets the publicity it deserves.
Posted by jcwhite_uk
I see they are down again. These idiots really dont want MR to keep going do they.