Posted by genus
On 2007-09-16 12:05:19, limzm wrote:
On 2007-09-16 12:00:29, genus wrote:
On 2007-09-16 11:53:59, limzm wrote:
i used auto with infinite focus, without xenon - v3.3
Try to use auto focus, the distance was to near from ur camera, more than 1m or 2m then use infinite focus.
auto focus? does it reduces noise? i thought it was the noise that is problem in my picture and not the focusing?
Bcause i saw ur pic got little bit loss of focusing.
Posted by limzm
this time with xenon flash.
Posted by genus
Yes, wif flash, indoor use flash is better.
Posted by limzm
okay, but it seems like there's noise still.
Posted by genus
This is from 3.2 version
Portrait = #COM_EVENT(55,00)// Reset contrast
#COM_EVENT(56,04) // Reset sharpness FF // Sharpeness 00 to 08
#COM_EVENT(06,00) // Reset exposure
#SET_REG(40,05) // AE_XENON_ISO = 250
#SET_REG(43,2A) // CC_R_FLASH = 0x2A (colour temperature of 6800 K for flash)
#SET_REG(44,70); // CC_B_FLASH = 0x70 (colour temperature of 6800 K for flash)
i change the potrait to iso250 alrdy.
is that correct, kopritis?
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-09-16 11:17 ]
Posted by kopritis
On 2007-09-16 12:17:17, genus wrote:
This is from 3.2 version
Portrait = #COM_EVENT(55,00)// Reset contrast
#COM_EVENT(56,04) // Reset sharpness FF // Sharpeness 00 to 08
#COM_EVENT(06,00) // Reset exposure
#SET_REG(40,05) // AE_XENON_ISO = 250
#SET_REG(43,2A) // CC_R_FLASH = 0x2A (colour temperature of 6800 K for flash)
#SET_REG(44,70); // CC_B_FLASH = 0x70 (colour temperature of 6800 K for flash)
i change the potrait to iso250 alrdy.
is that correct, kopritis?
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-09-16 11:17 ]
Yes! i already do that in 3.3
*sorry my mistake in 3.3 it's like that
Portrait = #COM_EVENT(55,02) // Reset contrast
#COM_EVENT(56,06) // Reset sharpness FF // Sharpeness 00 to 08
#COM_EVENT(06,02) // Reset exposure
#SET_REG(40,05) // AE_XENON_ISO = 250
#SET_REG(43,29) // CC_R_FLASH = 0x29 (colour temperature of 7500 K for flash)
#SET_REG(44,74); // CC_B_FLASH = 0x74 (colour temperature of 7500 K for flash)
[ This Message was edited by: kopritis on 2007-09-16 11:26 ]
Posted by genus
ok, now i try the 3.3 friver 1st.
Posted by limzm
Document Mode:
Night Portrait Mode:
both with xenon flash.
Posted by genus
i do think the 3.2 is better.
Posted by genus
On 2007-09-16 12:24:08, kopritis wrote:
On 2007-09-16 12:17:17, genus wrote:
This is from 3.2 version
Portrait = #COM_EVENT(55,00)// Reset contrast
#COM_EVENT(56,04) // Reset sharpness FF // Sharpeness 00 to 08
#COM_EVENT(06,00) // Reset exposure
#SET_REG(40,05) // AE_XENON_ISO = 250
#SET_REG(43,2A) // CC_R_FLASH = 0x2A (colour temperature of 6800 K for flash)
#SET_REG(44,70); // CC_B_FLASH = 0x70 (colour temperature of 6800 K for flash)
i change the potrait to iso250 alrdy.
is that correct, kopritis?
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-09-16 11:17 ]
Yes! i already do that in 3.3
*sorry my mistake in 3.3 it's like that
Portrait = #COM_EVENT(55,02) // Reset contrast
#COM_EVENT(56,06) // Reset sharpness FF // Sharpeness 00 to 08
#COM_EVENT(06,02) // Reset exposure
#SET_REG(40,05) // AE_XENON_ISO = 250
#SET_REG(43,29) // CC_R_FLASH = 0x29 (colour temperature of 7500 K for flash)
#SET_REG(44,74); // CC_B_FLASH = 0x74 (colour temperature of 7500 K for flash)
[ This Message was edited by: kopritis on 2007-09-16 11:26 ]
Okay, i will change it first.
Posted by limzm
okay, it's night here now. and i think night pictures are better than daylight ones.
Posted by genus
after i change the 3.2 potrait setting, copare to normal mode, the potrait almost having the brightness same with normal mode but is less clear than normal mode a bit.
Posted by kimot01
i think i'll stick with version 2.8
Posted by milan91
Compare:
1.original driver from R1KG001
2.and Kop 3.3
1.document mode with daylight balance
2.document mode with daylight
3.landscape with stabilizer and daylight balance
4.landscape with stabilizer and daylight balance
5.document mode and daylight balance(kop 3.3)
Posted by limzm
nice comparison. kopritis' v3.3 seems much enhanced!
btw, anyone knows where are the settings to the ISO without xenon?
night portrait mode is too bright with xenon.. esp on white objects.
[ This Message was edited by: limzm on 2007-09-16 13:57 ]
Posted by deadman4168
so wch one is better 3.2 or 3.3 Koprities ans this pls. Another u changed the colour temp in 3.3 potrait what is the reason behind this
Posted by Mike2
milan, why do you always use document mode when taking macro pictures instead of just turning macro on in normal mode?
Posted by milan91
Because, for me, document mode is better for macro pics
Look difference, both pics with Kop 3.3
1. document mode, with auto balance
2. auto mode, with macro, and auto balance
[ This Message was edited by: milan91 on 2007-09-16 15:48 ]
Posted by opexblue
Document Mode use ISO 100
Normal Mode use ISO 400
That's why Normal Mode is Brighter for macro pictures.
Posted by mario06
with the 3.3s before taking indoor pictures there's noise in the lcd screen how come?
Posted by kopritis
On 2007-09-16 17:01:33, mario06 wrote:
with the 3.3s before taking indoor pictures there's noise in the lcd screen how come?
this noise is from ~22fps video rec and viewfinder
Posted by Mike2
On 2007-09-16 16:39:32, milan91 wrote:
Because, for me, document mode is better for macro pics
Look difference, both pics with Kop 3.3
1. document mode, with auto balance
2. auto mode, with macro, and auto balance
One major difference between document and macro in normal mode is that the AF led lights, and that in document it doesn't. Looks like this confuses the phone when it AFs because the orange light gets reflected (and it will get a stronger reflection in your audio jack converter since it is shiny). If we could find a way to turn off the AF led in normal mode... I tried doing that once, but then the phone camera crashed when I tried taking a picture. But I'm pretty sure it's possible to turn off the light though. I just didn't try enough.
Or even better, we need manual focus
Posted by deadman4168
kopritis pls post 3.3 with default video
Posted by milan91
On 2007-09-16 17:23:40, Mike2 wrote:
One major difference between document and macro in normal mode is that the AF led lights, and that in document it doesn't. Looks like this confuses the phone when it AFs because the orange light gets reflected (and it will get a stronger reflection in your audio jack converter since it is shiny). If we could find a way to turn off the AF led in normal mode... I tried doing that once, but then the phone camera crashed when I tried taking a picture. But I'm pretty sure it's possible to turn off the light though. I just didn't try enough.
Or even better, we need manual focus
Yes, but document is better macro mode, not only for shiny objects...
I understand you, but AF led is good for some situation, but its not good for macro shots...
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[ This Message was edited by: milan91 on 2007-09-16 16:58 ]
Posted by whitehackker
ei! guys.. is kopritis 3.3 cam driver just for only k810i??
coz after uploading this driver to my k800i i experienced zoom bug during video rec mode??..
so i think 3.2 is better..
thanks...
KOPRITIS YOU'RE THE MAN!! more power to you and to all modders out there
Posted by opexblue
Yup... I got that zoom bug too. Maybe It is because 22fps.
Just wondering,what's the different between R5 & R6 camera version ?
Is it R5 for K800 & R6 for K810 ?
[ This Message was edited by: opexblue on 2007-09-16 18:56 ]
Posted by norbi_nw
I still get the zoom bug in 3.3! BUT we dont need zoom for video recording, so it doesnt bother me (what the hell can you see if you zoom even 2x on a 177x144 video??) Bestpic is OK, so i dun care for zoom. You can puch the FPS further, as long as it doesnt affect bestpic. 3.0 was VERY good in sharpness. i'll test 3.3 tomorrow.
Posted by kopritis
On 2007-09-16 18:21:31, opexblue wrote:
Yup... I got that zoom bug too. Maybe It is because 22fps.
Just wondering,what's the different between R5 & R6 camera version ?
Is it R5 for K800 & R6 for K810 ?
[ This Message was edited by: opexblue on 2007-09-16 18:56 ]
no! r5 is for some scenes without autofocus led... and r6 is for scenes with autofacus led..
Posted by ossiriss
Hi! I want a driver version where the pictures are very good quality. Don;t want so good videos but the pics should be the best! Which do you recomand? 3.3?
Posted by mongoose3800
Guys, I notice some complaining about extra noise when ISO is at 400. If you want to use a larger ISO setting get used to it, there's nothing you can do - especially in low light. All digicams suffer increased noise as ISO increases, especially camera's with small lens. Read up on ISO if you want to understand why.
Has anyone really been happy with any of the mods they've done? About the only mod that makes any real difference is playing with the sharpness setting. I think increasing the sharpness makes for less natural looking images and is not suitable for everyday shots. Increased sharpness seems best used for macro shots - in which case you can use document mode.
Everyone's got their own personal preferences - that's mine.
I have not noticed any great difference by using 95-100% compression. And, It really doesn't make any sense to me why photo's get smaller in file size as you decrease the amount of compression used. I'm struggling to see what the difference is in the 2mp photos when the buffer size is set to 900kb. All I see is a bigger file.
For now I have reverted back to orig cam driver as I would rather reliability over tweaks that offer very little improvement. Most imprtantly, it seems there is no way address the lack of anti-aliasing in this camera. This comes down to firmware/hardware. But, the more I look around the more I see that other camera phones suffer the same issue - although not quite as badly or frequently as the K800.
Lastly, if you guys what to be a little more adventurous I reckon you could write you own macros to set various sharpness settings. It shouldn't be too hard. In the orig driver all you have is a Normal and Document macro used to set EV and sharpness. So you could get the scenes (property 16 of the drive to use different settings if you like by calling dife
Posted by max_wedge
I agree with your analysis mongoose. I still don't feel my camera suffers a huge amount from aliasing, but it's just very noticable because the K750 camera really didn't suffer from this at all. But K750 had the bad white lines, something that I've never seen on other camera phone pics. So maybe it's some kind of trade-off they thought it better to have aliasing than white lines?
Many people rubbished the K750 for it's white lines, maybe SE wanted to make sure they wouldn't suffer that criticism in the K800 (instead they now suffer criticism for aliasing and water colour filtering!!)
Posted by hanugro
On 2007-09-17 02:19:01, mongoose3800 wrote:
Guys, I notice some complaining about extra noise when ISO is at 400. If you want to use a larger ISO setting get used to it, there's nothing you can do - especially in low light. All digicams suffer increased noise as ISO increases, especially camera's with small lens.
Actually the culprit is small sensor (with high MP, the higher MP the more noise visible in all ISO setting, especially the higher the ISO). And yes all small sensor will require small lenses. That is why I always stated that 3mp is more than enough and unless sensor technology catches up we may have to live with the noise.
Posted by max_wedge
actually, it is all digital cameras (all sensors, but especially cmos) that suffers from noise problems. It's inherrant to the nature of digital camera technology. No matter what the camera, you will always get an increase in noise with an increase in ISO. It's EXACTLY the same scenario with film. Higher ISO = more graininess.
However, the better quality the sensor, the less noise you get. Just like the better quality film you use, the less graininess at high iso's. It's not the size per se, though smaller sensors are harder to make at high quality, so CHEAP sensors are always small and crap. However, as technology improves, it becomes possible to make smaller and smaller sensors for the same quality (ie: low noise). So you can have smaller sensors, but if you want the same quality, the sensor will be much more expensive.
For example, my K750 has a much smaller sensor than the old Powershot 350 (VGA) I used to own. Yet the K750 sensor can 2MP pictures. If you resize those 2MP pictures to VGA, they are MUCH better than the powershot, with NO noise. So the K750 smaller sensor, can actually capture more usable information than the larger VGA sensor of the powershot.
Posted by pedrops
On 2007-09-16 11:57:54, obi none wrote:
[quote]
What's the point man? If i put 25 video rec image stabil doesn't work
and when u use image stabil auto focus doesnt work
Of course it does.
Put in Snow/Beach
@Kopritis
Can you make us a 3.3 without FPS increase?
I would be very thankfull
BTW.. if its possible to have auto focus, with image stabilizer on Snow/Beach mode, can't you add that option to normal mode?
[ This Message was edited by: pedrops on 2007-09-17 06:04 ]
Posted by amarsidhu
I have tried almost every driver but I liked 2.7 the most
its clicks nice pics
as far as video is concerned I don't create too many vdoz.
nice effort guys
Now one question.
which one is better then 2.7
coz these days I am hardly finding any time because of work to test any driver
Please reply.....
Posted by chestertan20
hi can i upgrade my cam with R1JG001 firmware???
Posted by number1
the whole
Twilight_landscape = #COM_EVENT(55,01) // contrast to 1
#COM_EVENT(56,03) // sharpness DONT DO NOTHING
#COM_EVENT(06,09); // exposure to 09
makes no difference and sports mode exposure is messed up so i created
Sport_scene = #COM_EVENT(55,00) // Reset contrast
#COM_EVENT(56,02) // Sharpeness 00 to 08
#COM_EVENT(06,02); // Reset exposure
to fix it
Posted by limzm
i heeded mongoose's advice and used back stock drivers, adjust a few settings and viola - better than what i had expected.
Posted by rockygali
i do also thinkin about that.... the stock drivers addresses to those major photo needs very well... tho sometimes it misfires...
and the answer to those misfires are these modded drivers.
whats pulling the modded ones down is the inability to adapt altogether other feature of the imaging phone... like BestPic.
so its anybody's ball game right now....
Posted by limzm
yeah, I changed normal mode's sharpness to 05 and it seems to suit me best. and this setting applies to all other scenes like portrait and twilight portrait.
I don't mind the zoom bug on the video because I don't see the point of zooming during video recording. furthermore, it's 176x122, what can u expect to see with zoom? unless we are talking about optical zoom then it may be a different case. and BestPic is now bug-less for me.
Posted by max_wedge
digital zoom is a lot more useful in video than in still photography. Because the image is moving, it's not so evident how grainy the zoom is, so can actually be used to good effect on small resolution video recordings
Here's an example of what I mean, recently the visit by the USS Kitty Hawk on the way home to her grave (or life as a floating hotel maybe?):
in the first video you can see the camera's normal video, without zoom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKmt037Jv0Y
Here's the same scene but using digital zoom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-GI6wQ78tI
It's definitely worth using.
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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2007-09-17 13:58 ]
Posted by limzm
4x Zoom would be good but when u max out the zoom, it's not worth anymore.
Posted by amarsidhu
is it possible to add manual focus in this???
Posted by limzm
i hope that is possible just like the k750/w810i
Posted by bjorndan
On 2007-09-17 15:36:59, limzm wrote:
4x Zoom would be good but when u max out the zoom, it's not worth anymore.
Digital zoom is complete useless. I always have it off on my k800 and my other real digital cameras. I donīt see any good use of it unless you have a camera with a lot of pixels. You always get a lousy image.
It is better they put in optical zoom instead, but it will take more space in the phone.
It is still a long way to go untill SE old K700 slogan "Phone meets camera" wil become real. But it is going the right way.
Posted by pedrops
Video recording still has zoom bug, stop delay...
can you tell me where is the line to set default FPS? And the value of the default fps...
Posted by kopritis
this photo's was taken with 3.3 mod when i was driving with 60km/h today.
1. camera setted to sport
2. camera setted to automode
The second pic it's a little bit shaked.....
[ This Message was edited by: kopritis on 2007-09-17 22:06 ]
Posted by xan K
I agree with you bjorndan, digital zoom is pointless. I never use in my k790 or my Canon Powershot SD1000. It's optical or nothing at all. I couldn't care less for that zoom video bug the 25fps tweak makes up for it.
Posted by kopritis
Ok guys, look we need some strong modders for k800/810... I made this mods with minimum changes bucause i don't know what else can i do, so my mods stops here. From know on just learnig from my self and from others modders how to mod a big things. So, we need help in this topic from other modders...
i'm not a programmer, i'm not SE expert, i'm not computer tech, i'm not nothing! i'm a ordinary man just like you. (well a little bit curious)
I think noones care about this phones k790/k800/k810 but i've made the start...
Thanks!
Posted by opexblue
So do I. I never use it either. But the issue here is to inform the modder that the camdriver still have a bug :)
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