Modded Camera Driver for k800i/k810i

Posted by Goldmen
O.K.
I`ll try latter...

Posted by geroldbravo
@number1
what is the latest in 2.95?? i mean what is the difference between your 2.93 and 2.95 mate??

i also like your cam driver...

Posted by nindjata

Quote:

On 2008-01-10 17:17:14, milan91 wrote:
Here is original patch:

K800 - R1KG001 ???

[ This Message was edited by: nindjata on 2008-01-11 16:46 ]

Posted by number1
@geroldbravo, my camdriver toopic is here just read the first post
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161159

Posted by Mike2
Is camera driver modding dead?
I thought that when DB2020 patching would be available, we would see more drivers since we would make a move patch so that we wouldn't have to use Far to upload the new camera driver, thus saving time.
Heck, you don't even have to restart the phone for changes in camera to take effect!

But it looks like I was wrong...

Ever since DB2020 patching, camera driver modding has died.
Does anybody else agree with me?

Posted by pietropizzi
No, I don't agree....

Look at:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161159
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161555
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161414

and you find new Versions almost vey week !

Posted by geroldbravo
i don't agree either....

Posted by mccm
so please point to the one with the best with your point of view .

thaank you .

Posted by Mike2

On 2008-01-13 19:27:54, pietropizzi wrote:
No, I don't agree....

Look at:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161159
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161555
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161414

and you find new Versions almost vey week !

Guess I was wrong then

I'll put each one of these drivers in my phone, and change whenever I feel like

Posted by DeKosta

Guess I was wrong then

I'll put each one of these drivers in my phone, and change whenever I feel like

Could you link me to any guide that describes how i set that up?
So i can change the driver without uploading new files with XS/FAR and restarting.

Posted by LaurensB
Hey guys

I think this might be intresting to some of you : http://www.michaelalmond.com/Articles/noise9.htm most others might already know the power of this but's it's always nice to see a few good examples!

Posted by DeKosta
A question, im going to experiment a little with camdrivers, change some easy settings.
And what i wonder is, take contrast for an example, i have understod i change every (55,XX) in the driver to ex(55,01) and so on -
but what about the stuff writen beside it; // Reset contrast and sometimes // Reduced or // Increased.. ?

Do i have to change them to?

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-14 05:56:50, DeKosta wrote:
A question, im going to experiment a little with camdrivers, change some easy settings.
And what i wonder is, take contrast for an example, i have understod i change every (55,XX) in the driver to ex(55,01) and so on -
but what about the stuff writen beside it; // Reset contrast and sometimes // Reduced or // Increased.. ?

Do i have to change them to?

In the code the stuff next to "//" is taken as a comment.

Posted by number1
increasing contrast, also by default increases the exposure, causing over exposure.

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-14 14:03:00, number1 wrote:
increasing contrast, also by default increases the exposure, causing over exposure.

right

Posted by faidz85
I did some mini tests comparing Genus 6.0 [06 Sharpness], ModMix 1.42, number1 2.95 and Ultimate 2.0 in document mode.

I found out that modmix, number1 and genus' driver can focus nearer object in document mode. But with ultimate 2.0, I can focus nearer. I'll upload the 4 pics later...comparing the minimum distance to get proper focus.

Ultimate 2.0 - http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4153/ultimate2ao0.jpg

Genus 6.0 [06] - http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3630/genus6yv3.jpg

number1 2.95 - http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2715/number1295co5.jpg

ModMix 1.42 - http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8068/modmix142dz2.jpg

Posted by Goldmen

On 2008-01-14 14:03:00, number1 wrote:
increasing contrast, also by default increases the exposure, causing over exposure.

So,what we can do to increase default contrast without increasing of default exposure or haw we can decrease default exposure and what are recommended values...?
Can we set something like:
#COM_EVENT(55,02)
#COM_EVENT(06,FE)
or
#COM_EVENT(06,FF)....?

On 2008-01-11 16:30:31, number1 wrote:
just turn the auto whitebalance off, like in the k770 change
seq_set_prop_1_0 = #COM_EVENT(11,00);
change to
seq_set_prop_1_0 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);

80 means off it works for sharpness contrast etc,

..or if I`ll make this:
seq_set_prop_1_0 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
seq_set_prop_1_1 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
seq_set_prop_1_2 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
seq_set_prop_1_3 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
seq_set_prop_1_4 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
seq_set_prop_1_5 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
seq_set_prop_1_6 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
seq_set_prop_1_7 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
seq_set_prop_1_8 = #COM_EVENT(11,80);
....?

[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-01-14 21:49 ]

Posted by killerPK

On 2008-01-14 16:00:37, faidz85 wrote:
I did some mini tests comparing Genus 6.0 [06 Sharpness], ModMix 1.42, number1 2.95 and Ultimate 2.0 in document mode.

I found out that modmix, number1 and genus' driver can focus nearer object in document mode. But with ultimate 2.0, I can focus nearer. I'll upload the 4 pics later...comparing the minimum distance to get proper focus.

Ultimate 2.0 - http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4153/ultimate2ao0.jpg

Genus 6.0 [06] - http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3630/genus6yv3.jpg

number1 2.95 - http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2715/number1295co5.jpg

ModMix 1.42 - http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8068/modmix142dz2.jpg

What were the lighting conditions for these pictures? IMO the minimum focus distance is the same because its a hardware feature not a software one.

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-14 18:21:53, killerPK wrote:

What were the lighting conditions for these pictures? IMO the minimum focus distance is the same because its a hardware feature not a software one.

In Number1 driver (copied by you and genus) the fps shutter are decreased in low light condition. As the max time for autofocus remain the same, algorithm isn't able to set focus so near because objetive can't move the necessary distance before autofocus time is over. As far as I know it's the only logical explanation.

[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-01-14 23:40 ]

Posted by jomateixa

You will f**k all the WB settings and won't be able to change it from phone menu I think

Posted by Goldmen
I know,but do it need any colour correction...?
I mean,without WB colours will are real default...
Did you try it? I did and pics are good....
And can you tell me how I can decrease default exposure?

[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-01-14 22:35 ]

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-14 23:19:33, Goldmen wrote:
I know,but do it need any colour correction...?
I mean,without WB colours will are real default...
Did you try it? I did and pics are good....
And can you tell me how I can decrease default exposure?

[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-01-14 22:35 ]

Digital whitebalance is used in digital cameras for correction of colours when there's so much blue, or red, and so on (based on colour temperature). Disable the Auto WB if you don't like how works the K800's one, but you'll have to set manually the WB at tungsten light, or at snowy bluish light, etc if you want good pics. And WB presets are not really a kind of manual WB...

Posted by Goldmen
O.K.
I forgot about snow and other scenes....

Thank you!
But in auto mode I think it is possible to turn off...

[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-01-14 22:56 ]

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-14 23:55:41, Goldmen wrote:
O.K.
I forgot about snow and other scenes....

Thank you!
But in auto mode I think it is possible to turn off...

[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2008-01-14 22:56 ]

Yes goldmen it's possible, but what's the point? This is how auto WB works: if too much amount of a single colour a filter is applied (for example filter for low frequencies if red, filter for high frequencies if blue), if not, no filter's applied. But you could ask: What if I want to catch a real reddish moment? You can use the Fluorescent preset and it won't filter the red colour.

Posted by rockygali

the distance of the shot taken by ULTIMATE driver was i think nearer than the other 3.

heres wot i did.
camdrivers involved are: Modmix 1.42 / Ultimate V2 with Vivid Colors / Number1 2.95 / Genus 6.0

Document mode with flash on. all settings are auto:

Genus 6.0:

direct: HERE

ULTIMATE V2 with Vivid:

direct: HERE

Modmix 1.42:

direct: HERE

Number1 2.95:

direct: HERE

so there it is.... we can see Genus 6.0 & Number1 2.95 is close results with the latter being much sharper...

ciao!

_________________

[ This Message was edited by: rockygali on 2008-01-15 02:25 ]

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-15 03:24:20, rockygali wrote:

direct: HERE

ULTIMATE V2 with Vivid:

direct: HERE

Modmix 1.42:

direct: HERE

Number1 2.95:

When comparing Doc modes is VERY important to shot exactly same pics (same distance). These are all different, but your work is appreciated!

Posted by rockygali
yep...

next time ill try using a tripod....

Posted by pietropizzi
I find myself of using DOC mode more and more for.....normal indoor pics.

I think it's the combination of sharpness / low ISO that I missuse DOC mode
for pictures its not made for per definition.

But I really found that small distances (1-3m) in low light, that look blurry, noisy and unsharp in Normal/Nightportrait suddenly look crisp and clear with DOC mode - of course flash is used......
And DOC mode is almost driver independend as all of the above offer
very good DOC modes !

[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2008-01-15 07:03 ]

Posted by pietropizzi
Could the modders please check following code: (thx to Kriomag for idea !)

//************************************************
// Exposure property 0 *****
//************************************************

// 3 => -2 EV, 9 => -(0) EV .... f => 2 EV
//---------------------------------------------------
seq_set_prop_0 = $p1 08 // put Effects-Property into Reg1
$c1 04 // Is Black-White Effect selected then
#COM_EVENT(55,$w5) // Set Contrast with Stick
$cl
$c1 02 // Is Solarize Effect selected then
#COM_EVENT(58,$w5) // Set Colorgain with Stick
$cl
$c1 01 // Is Negative Effect selected then
#COM_EVENT(56,$w5) // Set Sharpening with Stick
$cl // IF other Effect or Normal do normal EV operation
$s5 %0
$-5 09
#COM_EVENT(06,$w5)
$cx
$cx
$cx;

Can't test it myself now.
To check:
*) Is if the Sharpening/Colorgain/Contrast property is saved after changing Effect back to normal ?
*) Maybe $w5 isn't always calculated accordingly to the usual range of the property.

But if it IS saved, then we can set the desired settings before choosing the scene.
The propertys are just an example, it should (maybe) work with ISO and
FOCUS ....hopefully !

[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2008-01-15 12:59 ]

Posted by number1
it should be saved,

Posted by pietropizzi
THX !

I know we shouldn't bother you with EM for K8xx but I realize you'r playing around with EM for 550 (OK, my daughter would thank you).

Maybe implemetation is easier there, I don't know, but ManualFocus,Color;Sharpening would be great if beeing EM'ed on K800...

Posted by number1
because k550i shutter speed command is
#COM_EVENT(04,00), and the k800i's shutter speed command is still unknown

Posted by pietropizzi
I tried that:


//************************************************

// Exposure property 0 *****

//************************************************

// 3 => -2 EV, 9 => -(0) EV .... f => 2 EV

//---------------------------------------------------

seq_set_prop_0 =

$s5 %0 

$-5 09

$p1 08           // put Effects-Property into Reg1

 $c1 04          // Is Black-White Effect selected then

  #COM_EVENT(55,$w5)    // Set Contrast with Stick

  #COM_EVENT(06,00)	// Reset exposure

 $cl

 $c1 02          // Is Solarize Effect selected then

  #COM_EVENT(58,$w5)    // Set Colorgain with Stick

  #COM_EVENT(06,00)	// Reset exposure

 $cl

 $c1 01          // Is Negative Effect selected then

  #COM_EVENT(56,$w5)    // Set Sharpness with Stick

  #COM_EVENT(06,00)	// Reset exposure

 $cl            // IF other Effect or Normal do normal EV operation

#COM_EVENT(06,$w5)

$cx

$cx

$cx;

Only Color worked, contrast and sharpening I couldn't see effect.
I used 0 to +2EV.

Any Idea whats wrong ?
I did't change anything else after setting Effect and the wanted EV Value, just set Effect back to normal and EV back to 0 because the #COM_EVENT(06,00) didn't really reset Exposure.....

Posted by number1
you wouldn't notice anything on the viewfinder by increasing the sharpness increasing the contrast you should have noticed the exposure also, try
#COM_EVENT(43,$w5) thats focus you should notice a change when increaing and decreasing the EV.

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-15 23:50:57, pietropizzi wrote:
I tried that:


//************************************************

// Exposure property 0 *****

//************************************************

// 3 => -2 EV, 9 => -(0) EV .... f => 2 EV

//---------------------------------------------------

seq_set_prop_0 =

$s5 %0 

$-5 09

$p1 08           // put Effects-Property into Reg1

 $c1 04          // Is Black-White Effect selected then

  #COM_EVENT(55,$w5)    // Set Contrast with Stick

  #COM_EVENT(06,00)	// Reset exposure

 $cl

 $c1 02          // Is Solarize Effect selected then

  #COM_EVENT(58,$w5)    // Set Colorgain with Stick

  #COM_EVENT(06,00)	// Reset exposure

 $cl

 $c1 01          // Is Negative Effect selected then

  #COM_EVENT(56,$w5)    // Set Sharpness with Stick

  #COM_EVENT(06,00)	// Reset exposure

 $cl            // IF other Effect or Normal do normal EV operation

#COM_EVENT(06,$w5)

$cx

$cx

$cx;

Try removing #COM_EVENT(06,00) from that places (for contrast, colour & sharpness should work anyway)

Posted by stat5bot
Hi. really sorry to ask.

but, how do you change the cam driver of k800i? i recently bought this phone and i dont know if it requires the software to update the camera driver. Please walk me through on how to change it. appreciate it a lot. Thanks

Posted by number1
read the first post at the bottom
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161159

Posted by pietropizzi
@ number1 and jomateixa

THX for your advises !

@ number1

I didnt't notice any changes in VF so I took real shots with different settings and analyzed on Laptop !
And there I also dis't see any changes in contrasc or sharpness, only colorgain was changed as expected.

Thanx for FOCUS command, I'll try that and report on it !

@ jomateixa

In my first try I didn't have the #COM_EVENT(06,00) commands in the driver but I saw that exposure was also changed according to the stick +/- change when only 55,56 or 58 should be changed.

So I thought of putting a reset afterwards would act like setting the stick to 0 again and exposure would not be affected !
But it was and still is.....
So I have to go back to Effect --> Normal and set the stick back to 0 manually

Posted by stat5bot

On 2008-01-16 16:51:03, number1 wrote:
read the first post at the bottom
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161159

Hi. ive been looking for SE Tools 1.0.8 and i cant find it. any links where i could download the software?

Thanks

Posted by tranced

On 2008-01-16 17:07:41, stat5bot wrote:
Hi. ive been looking for SE Tools 1.0.8 and i cant find it. any links where i could download the software?

Thanks

http://www.4shared.com/accoun[....]v108.html?sId=AbS3IOgOkJ22URzV

Posted by stat5bot

On 2008-01-16 17:12:30, tranced wrote:

On 2008-01-16 17:07:41, stat5bot wrote:
Hi. ive been looking for SE Tools 1.0.8 and i cant find it. any links where i could download the software?

Thanks

http://www.4shared.com/accoun[....]v108.html?sId=AbS3IOgOkJ22URzV

wow. thanks a lot tranced. ill try this and hopefully nothing bad would happen. hahaha..

Posted by tranced
dont you trust in yourself?

Posted by jomateixa

In my first try I didn't have the #COM_EVENT(06,00) commands in the driver but I saw that exposure was also changed according to the stick +/- change when only 55,56 or 58 should be changed.

I putted a only command #COM_EVENT(06,00) just before #COM_EVENT(06,$w5) and it didn't happen to me. Colorgain and sharpness worked (I think but have to test more). Contrast worked too but if you revert back the EV to 0.0 it dissappears (contrast and exposure are almost the same).

So I thought of putting a reset afterwards would act like setting the stick to 0 again and exposure would not be affected !
But it was and still is.....
So I have to go back to Effect --> Normal and set the stick back to 0 manually

#COM_EVENT(06,00) won't work for that, you should put $-5 09 instead (at the end, before #COM_EVENT(06,$w5)). The EV will be +0.0 but the stick will remain at 2.0 or wherever you setted, so you won't be able to increase/decrease it in full range anymore.

[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-01-16 16:37 ]

Posted by number1
doesn't increaing the contrast also increase the exposure, it does it by default

Posted by stat5bot

On 2008-01-16 17:16:46, tranced wrote:
dont you trust in yourself?

well, i do. but im kinda new with this modding and flashing. and ive been backreading.. and i couldnt understand the codes.. hahaha!

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-16 17:21:16, number1 wrote:
doesn't increaing the contrast also increase the exposure, it does it by default

Increasing contrast in the way I said on later post only constrast is increased (picture looks brighter but without the common noise that appears when we play with EV)

Posted by tranced
i see. well, you will learn if you really want it.

Posted by jomateixa

On 2008-01-16 17:21:16, number1 wrote:
doesn't increaing the contrast also increase the exposure, it does it by default

Increasing contrast in the way I said on later post only constrast is increased (picture looks brighter but without the common noise that appears when we play with EV)

[ This Message was edited by: jomateixa on 2008-01-16 16:35 ]

Posted by pietropizzi
OK I tried:

seq_set_prop_0 =
$s5 %0
$-5 09
$p1 08 // put Effects-Property into Reg1
$c1 04 // Is Black-White Effect selected then
#COM_EVENT(43,$w5) // Set FOCUS with Stick (thx number1)
$cl
$c1 02 // Is Solarize Effect selected then
#COM_EVENT(58,$w5) // Set Colorgain with Stick
$s5 00 // Set 0 in Reg 5 so Exp wil be 0 ?
$cl
$c1 01 // Is Negative Effect selected then
#COM_EVENT(56,$w5) // Set Sharpness with Stick
$cl // IF other Effect or Normal do normal EV operation
#COM_EVENT(06,$w5)
$cx
$cx
$cx;

I did (almost) what you both advised.

Good news:

Setting FOCUS with stick is --> WOOOOAAAAAHHHHH !!!
In combination with Zoom you get great Preview !

Now If we just can HOLD that Focus because on HalfPress the AutoF sets in and overwrites the manual setting.
Maybe some command to disable AutoAF then ??

Bad news:

The $s5 00 I did by myself because I thought I should just fill the Reg5 with 0 so Exp. will also be filled with 0. Doesn't work.

It seems you're right ans stick acts not like a PC-Joystick to "recenter" back to 0, it simply stays where it was before.....
Some other trick to reset before choosing another property ?

I'd like to play with some FORCE ISO but these values arent linear so it will be tricky to calculate

Posted by stat5bot

On 2008-01-16 17:28:28, tranced wrote:
i see. well, you will learn if you really want it.

well, ive done it.. but i dont know if i really did. my phone turned on and my camera is working.. now how do i check the version of my cam driver? waah!