Posted by ahil13
which command is for max sharpness i try 1D, 12, 32 and can`t see differences
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-27 05:39:17, Vit wrote:
@ jomateixa
Why do you have always to be right, man? What's the problem?
People have their own opinions, you have yours.
You should not express your thoughts as if they were simply unmistakable truths.
Please, try to be more flexible and less insurgent. For instance, Genus is trying to improve his drivers by pushing the sharpness level beyond, as you suggested. I think that 08 of shapness is too high. You don't think so, don't you? That's fine. I respect your opinion. You should respect mine and all the others.
Does your driver has an enhanced night mode? NO.
Does your driver has as many flash iso settings as Genius'? NO.
You keep on saying that your 'vivid colors' driver is the best one. Nothing more.
I have seen a lot of criticism from you. A lot. Nobody's right, but you.
We all know what are your points. Perhaps it's about time for you to go some steps further than just criticise, don't you think?
- I never said that my driver is the best, cause it's not my driver.
- I'm just tired of lies said here.
- Just after releasing the Ultimate, the genus driver is beginning to look good.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-27 13:39:14, lauyah wrote:
On 2007-12-27 05:39:17, Vit wrote:
@ jomateixa
Why do you have always to be right, man? What's the problem?
People have their own opinions, you have yours.
You should not express your thoughts as if they were simply unmistakable truths.
Please, try to be more flexible and less insurgent. For instance, Genus is trying to improve his drivers by pushing the sharpness level beyond, as you suggested. I think that 08 of shapness is too high. You don't think so, don't you? That's fine. I respect your opinion. You should respect mine and all the others.
Does your driver has an enhanced night mode? NO.
Does your driver has as many flash iso settings as Genius'? NO.
You keep on saying that your 'vivid colors' driver is the best one. Nothing more.
I have seen a lot of criticism from you. A lot. Nobody's right, but you.
We all know what are your points. Perhaps it's about time for you to go some steps further than just criticise, don't you think?
Just ignore that attention whore/ego mania. Just look at his feedback for other cam driver, which is always suxk according to him, unless its the 'ultimate driver'. Probly hes just 11 years old and havent reach puberty yet.
Yes, right. That's because I putted my name to the driver like Genus and Number1. My name is 'Ultimate', I'm the strongest heroe of the Universe.
I ever said that other drivers sucks cause it was true. If were good, I'll be using one of these and never wrote a post on this site.
Posted by BundyRRR
Hey people- don't blame each other. This is forum and this topic is for create the best camdriver, not to select master of camdriver or sth:) jomateixa has right- Ulltimate Camera Driver is one of the best camdriver for now (maybe the best- for me yes:)). Many drivers are good for landscape photos, others for macro. This camdriver is good for any conditions. Why are you angry, why blame jomateixa- he told that this isn't his driver- this is Kopritis mod.
Doe's anybody expect more from Ultimate Driver? I don't think so. They expect more from other driver because they have some bugs
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[ This Message was edited by: BundyRRR on 2007-12-27 16:23 ]
Posted by Vit
To everyone: Some interesting thing came out today when I was trying Genus' 6.0.
When I use different programs to view my pictures, they came out more or less sharp depending on which program I use.
For instance, when I try to see 08 sharpness pictures on Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition, it seems terrible, just like Number1 says.
But when I use the Windows Picture Viewer, it gets better, yet being oversharpened.
Right know I think that sharpness 06 should be a better choice. What do you all think?
And I noticed one issue with Genus last drivers: pictures under hard sunlight conditions sometimes seem overexposed:
Normal Mode, ISO-80, Sunlight WB, Spot Metering:
Meanwhile, I would like to share these 3 pictures taken with Genus 5.8:
first one: ISO-80, 0.0EV, 1/4s of Exposure Time, Incandescent WB:
second one: ISO-100, -2.0EV (supermode C), 2s of Exposure Time, Incandescent WB:
third one: ISO-100, -2.0EV (supermode C), 2s of Exposure Time, Auto WB:
Posted by Vit
On 2007-12-27 17:19:06, BundyRRR wrote:
Hey people- don't blame each other. This is forum and this topic is for create the best camdriver, not to select master of camdriver or sth:) jomateixa has right- Ulltimate Camera Driver is one of the best camdriver for now (maybe the best- for me yes:)). Many drivers are good for landscape photos, others for macro. This camdriver is good for any conditions. Why are you angry, why blame jomateixa- he told that this isn't his driver- this is Kopritis mod.
Doe's anybody expect more from Ultimate Driver? I don't think so. They expect more from other driver because they have some bugs
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[ This Message was edited by: BundyRRR on 2007-12-27 16:23 ]
Yes, I expected more from Ultimate. It lacks all the powerful nightshot capabilities present on Genus latest camdrivers as well as the flexible flash ISO settings. And to my sight, yes, it seems to have way too much sharpness.
Anyway, I just shouted about it because IMO it is far from being the ultimate camdriver. Saying 'Ultimate' seems like a TV ad, seems a little bit gimmick.
Posted by killerPK
ModMix v1.40 Final posted here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161555
A little feedback would be nice
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-27 17:19:06, BundyRRR wrote:
Hey people- don't blame each other. This is forum and this topic is for create the best camdriver, not to select master of camdriver or sth:) jomateixa has right- Ulltimate Camera Driver is one of the best camdriver for now (maybe the best- for me yes:)). Many drivers are good for landscape photos, others for macro. This camdriver is good for any conditions. Why are you angry, why blame jomateixa- he told that this isn't his driver- this is Kopritis mod.
Doe's anybody expect more from Ultimate Driver? I don't think so. They expect more from other driver because they have some bugs
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[ This Message was edited by: BundyRRR on 2007-12-27 16:23 ]
Thank you Bundy, you're a honest man. I'm only here for sharing my knowledge, If anyone post a better driver I will be the first on congratulate him, you can trust me. I'm not who have the ego problem. The Ultimate driver has been critiziced by genus without reason, and he's telling lies and posting edited pics. And people is now telling me kid. Nothing so far.
Posted by brazuka
Guyss each driver has its quality and its functions, you may not be disputing or competition one thing in benefit yourself try dispute, but a means to take the images to the eyes of the people of the world, even as the properties and functions are still many by the discover and each processor chips hardware and fits better with each property so each hardware has his identity his body, and so another thing never a photograph will have the same indentity even taken the same reference in the same instant of time, and sometimes the solution in this small things.
good job guys
Posted by ahil13
On 2007-12-27 16:54:52, ahil13 wrote:
which command is for max sharpness i try 1D, 12, 32 and can`t see differences
Posted by killerPK
On 2007-12-27 19:02:17, brazuka wrote:
Guyss each driver has its quality and its functions, you may not be disputing or competition one thing in benefit yourself try dispute, but a means to take the images to the eyes of the people of the world, even as the properties and functions are still many by the discover and each processor chips hardware and fits better with each property so each hardware has his identity his body, and so another thing never a photograph will have the same indentity even taken the same reference in the same instant of time, and sometimes the solution in this small things.
good job guys
Didnt understand a thing lol. No offense.
Posted by Raiderski
LOL!
all this discussion about sharpness looks like the matter of life or death
you've big chances to continue topic called "holy sharpness value" in next several months - my condolences some of you understand, some of you not: you'll never find value which will be ideal for everyone, so... don't you think that the easiest way to resolve this problem is to give every person possibility to edit sharpness/other value in very easy way (GUI)? let they decide what they want
Posted by killerPK
On 2007-12-27 19:56:48, Raiderski wrote:
LOL!
all this discussion about sharpness looks like the matter of life or death
you've big chances to continue topic called "holy sharpness value" in next several months - my condolences some of you understand, some of you not: you'll never find value which will be ideal for everyone, so... don't you think that the easiest way to resolve this problem is to give every person possibility to edit sharpness/other value in very easy way (GUI)? let they decide what they want
Good idea, i'll do that in next driver. Btw i dont see any difference between (58,08) or (58,1D), why doesnt the saturation change?
Posted by ahil13
Good idea, i'll do that in next driver. Btw i dont see any difference between (58,08) or (58,1D), why doesnt the saturation change?
Posted by killerPK
Ok heres ModMix v1.40 with customizable sharpness.
Just open the camdriver0.dat with some editing program (i use notepad++) and go to the last line of the driver :
SET_SHARPNESS = #COM_EVENT(58,xx);
and change xx to any value that you like.
Download:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/5094826/1911660d/140.html
[ This Message was edited by: killerPK on 2007-12-27 20:30 ]
Posted by Raiderski
killerPK
this isn't GUI solution but indeed good step to better customization
different approach:
top of the code:
SHARPNESS= 08;
in code:
#COM_EVENT(58,#SHARPNESS);
Posted by Goldmen
Can we add this last line to every1 CamDriver and do it work...?
Posted by killerPK
On 2007-12-27 21:32:03, Raiderski wrote:
killerPK
this isn't GUI solution but indeed good step to better customization
different approach:
top of the code:
SHARPNESS= 08;
in code:
#COM_EVENT(58,#SHARPNESS);
Didnt think of that, oh well it works anyway.
Posted by killerPK
On 2007-12-27 21:32:41, Goldmen wrote:
Can we add this last line to every1 CamDriver and do it work...?
No u cant, first you have to search for all the #com_event(56,xx) lines in a driver and replace them with a new function i,e #set_sharpness then define set_sharpness = com_event(56,xx); in the end so u only have to change it here for all scenes.
Oh yeah sorry, its 56.
[ This Message was edited by: killerPK on 2007-12-27 20:45 ]
Posted by pietropizzi
Very good approach, notepadding isn't too difficult !
but 58 is color gain, it should be 56 for sharpness
Posted by Goldmen
Tnx,killerPK!
May be I`ll try to do it...
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[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2007-12-27 20:57 ]
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-27 16:54:52, ahil13 wrote:
which command is for max sharpness i try 1D, 12, 32 and can`t see differences
Sharpness 08 is the max value
Posted by Raiderski
right! 56
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-27 14:06:28, number1 wrote:
having sharpness 08 you don't gain any more detail it just makes it look more, each picture is made up of pixels the k800i pictures contain 3.15 million pixels, the sharpness works by sharping each one of these 3.15 million pixels in the picture, the result is a very sharp grainy picture with looks like it has more detail because the pixels stand out more.
the oringal camdriver uses sharpness setting of FF which is -1 it's like that to reduce the grainyness of pictures.
I don't know the reason but in Ultimate that grainy effect doesn't exist at sharp 08. You tested it and should have realised that.
Posted by toyds
sample picture taken using genus 5.9 with sharpness to 05
settings : twilight portrait,no flash,other auto
EXIF:
EV : -1.7
F-Number : F/2.8
Exposure time : 1/8 sec.
ISO Speed : 400
settings : twilight portrait,no flash,other auto
EXIF:
EV : -2.0
F-Number : F/2.8
Exposure time : 1/4 sec.
ISO Speed : 320
settings : twilight landscape,no flash,other auto,(my hand is shaking)
EXIF:
EV : -1.7
F-Number : F/2.8
Exposure time : 1 sec.
ISO Speed : 200
Posted by geroldbravo
ey guys... what is iso??
Posted by toyds
ISO explanation
ISO (Sensitivity)
ISO is the number indicating a digital camera sensors sensitivity to light. The higher the sensitivity, the less light is needed to make an exposure.
Digital cameras automatically select the ISO but most have a setting to change it manually. Auto ISO generally works best for bright scenes.
Shooting at a lower ISO number requires more light than shooting at a higher number. Lower numbers result in images with the least visible noise, which is desirable.
The higher the number, the more noise. The amount and degree of noise varies from camera to camera.
Digital single reflex cameras (dSLR), because they have larger sensors, are best for producing noise-free images. However, some consumer digital cameras now have improved sensors that produce acceptable images at higher ISO.
ISO settings
AUTO ISO - digital camera automatically sets the ISO speed according the the brightness of the scene, increasing or decreasing the sensitivity. User has no control over which ISO number is used.
ISO 50 - 80 - for taking photos in bright light; excellent for close-ups, landscape, and portraits. Produces fine detail and image quality.
ISO 100 - for extra sensitivity with little, if any, reduced image quality.
ISO 200 - cloudy and overcast days. Acceptable image quality, with some visible noise.
ISO 400 and above - suitable for indoor photography whether or not a flash is used. Useful for "stop-action" and sports photographs. Most compact digital cameras produce high to very high image noise.
Changing ISO also changes the aperture and shutter speed.
Posted by Goldmen
On 2007-12-27 21:44:45, pietropizzi wrote:
Very good approach, notepadding isn't too difficult !
but 58 is color gain, it should be 56 for sharpness
Can we use this way to change other setting of driver?
I mean exposure,contrast,saturation etc.....?
[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2007-12-28 09:31 ]
Posted by Raiderski
Can we use this way to change other setting of driver?
I mean exposure,contrast,saturation etc.....?
code structure is very flexible, you can do almost everything
Posted by Goldmen
code structure is very flexible, you can do almost everything
Thanx,Raiderski!
Posted by genus
@Raiderski
Yup, you are right.
here my photo
again
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-12-28 10:31 ]
Posted by chestertan20
@GENUS
hi where is your new cam driver with 06 sharpness? thanks willing to try it
Posted by jAKXX
On 2007-12-28 11:11:37, Raiderski wrote:
Can we use this way to change other setting of driver?
I mean exposure,contrast,saturation etc.....?
code structure is very flexible, you can do almost everything
@All modders:
Could you create a camdriver with all those settings in the beginning of the file. For exemple:
top of the code:
SHARPNESS= 08; // Set value between 00 and 08 (Default is XX)
COLORGAIN= XX; // Set value between XX and XX (Default is XX)
ISO.....
I think that with this we will have a great driver.
@Raiderski
Haven't you done a little prog for another camdriver where you could change setting easily. Could make one for K810i camdriver0.dat?
THX.
Posted by Raiderski
Haven't you done a little prog for another camdriver where you could change setting easily. Could make one for K810i camdriver0.dat?
yes i did it. config tool is dedicated for K750/W800/W810 but can be used for any model & driver (chip vendor must be Sony). tool consists of five various settings. not all of them are currently available for non-supermode drivers. area of yours interest is "initial parameters" where you can change sharpness, saturation, contrast, etc. editable are only those values which tool can find at top of the driver code in customization block
in K750/W800/W810 we are using only one value (as example for sharpness), in K800 sometimes you are using more than one value (as example for sharpness for doc and non-doc). so, this is problem. i can upgrade config tool for many values with system like: values selection + description (editable) what for is every value
Posted by jAKXX
On 2007-12-28 14:17:13, Raiderski wrote:
Haven't you done a little prog for another camdriver where you could change setting easily. Could make one for K810i camdriver0.dat?
yes i did it. config tool is dedicated for K750/W800/W810 but can be used for any model & driver (chip vendor must be Sony). tool consists of five various settings. not all of them are currently available for non-supermode drivers. area of yours interest is "initial parameters" where you can change sharpness, saturation, contrast, etc. editable are only those values which tool can find at top of the driver code in customization block
in K750/W800/W810 we are using only one value (as example for sharpness), in K800 sometimes you are using more than one value (as example for sharpness for doc and non-doc). so, this is problem. i can upgrade config tool for many values with system like: values selection + description (editable) what for is every value
I'm not a modder but I suppose that there is important value for each profile ( sharpness, ISO, ...).
Maybe it could be possible to create a prog in which you can modif different profil:
Each profil is for a mode:
Profil "Document Mode"
-you would be able to change only SHARPNESS and ISO.
Profil "Normal Mode"
-you would be able to change ...
I don't know if it is possible. According to me there is no good or bad drivers. It's only the value in it that make a good or bad driver.
With that kind of program, people could post their setting and anyone could be able to adjust the drivers as we like.
Posted by Goldmen
http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=19968
I think it`s one of the best camdrivers...
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[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2007-12-28 14:50 ]
Posted by Mizzle
@genus
BREATHTAKING
Posted by niille
CAN SOMEONE TELL HOW TO INSTALL THE CAMDRIVER FOR MY K810i?
I HAVE SEARCHED BUT HAVENT FIND ANYTHING. ANY GUIDE OR SOMETHING? PLEASE?
Posted by jAKXX
On 2007-12-28 15:52:43, niille wrote:
CAN SOMEONE TELL HOW TO INSTALL THE CAMDRIVER FOR MY K810i?
I HAVE SEARCHED BUT HAVENT FIND ANYTHING. ANY GUIDE OR SOMETHING? PLEASE?
Use xs++ 3.X *
1.up zip ifs.zip
2. run xs++.exe
3. take out ur phone battery
4. press connect
5. put phone battery back in and plug ur phone into pc holding down C
6. click FSX
7. click start FSX
8. browse to ifs/settings/camera
9. click upload
10.now find my camdriver0.dat
11.double click it and it will upload and replace ur old camdriver0.dat
12.press shutdown then yes
13.press close and disconnect phone
*From Number1 2.9 post
Posted by dEaD-nErVe
On 2007-12-28 11:29:56, genus wrote:
@Raiderski
Yup, you are right.
here my photo
again
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-12-28 10:31 ]
genus what is the Software u use to Resize the Pic and show the Pic Info(Iso, Camera Name ...etc)
Thanx in advance
Posted by opexblue
On 2007-12-28 15:46:22, Goldmen wrote:
http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=19968
I think it`s one of the best camdrivers...
I can't go to this link. SE-NSE is down? Or just me ?
[ This Message was edited by: opexblue on 2007-12-28 17:11 ]
Posted by jAKXX
Down since yesterday
Posted by Goldmen
On 2007-12-28 17:56:24, opexblue wrote:
On 2007-12-28 15:46:22, Goldmen wrote:
http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=19968
I think it`s one of the best camdrivers...
I can't go to this link. SE-NSE is down? Or just me ?
No,it`s not just for you...
I mean:
1 . http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]_flash__great_quality___1.html
2 . http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]_flash__great_quality___2.html
3 . http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]_flash__great_quality___3.html
All drivers are mixed by 13
years old boy....
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[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2007-12-28 18:12 ]
Posted by norbi_nw
fab flash, fixed zoom? whats that suppose to mean? post pix plz
Posted by Goldmen
On 2007-12-28 20:04:59, norbi_nw wrote:
fab flash, fixed zoom? whats that suppose to mean? post pix plz
Sorry,I haven`t any pics from this driver now...
Drivers are not my...and the titles too...
SE-NSE now work....
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[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2007-12-28 19:16 ]
Posted by killerPK
Hey guys new driver uploaded. Check my thread for ModMix v1.40 Customizable Sharpness + Saturation:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=161555
Posted by dEaD-nErVe
@ genus
Plzz Check your PM
Posted by mpasanthosh
@Genus
Could you please create a cam driver with 06 sharness...
It should b suitable 4 al..
08 has too much sharpness ...
and 04 is moderate...
I think a cam driver with 06 shrapness would be better n suit most of the people...
Thnks.
Posted by zirkie101
@ Anybody
Has Kopritis retired?
Posted by theshadow03
mpasanthosh:
try killerPK`s driver, u can costumize the sharpness with notepad !!