Posted by G-Izzat
@ danekro,
I hope that the red color that you mentioned on genus camdriver is not because of the car.
[ This Message was edited by: G-Izzat on 2007-12-20 16:11 ]
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-20 16:24:13, phoenix1985 wrote:
On 2007-12-20 16:05:24, jomateixa wrote:
No comment...
I absolutely prefer Kop 2.7 nightshots. True clear, realist colors and that beautiful noise that ever seems to mix with the background.
At daylight every driver works fine, nothing to say, maybe color saturation a little less on Kop, I like it anyway.
Do you try 3.6 Final VB 24 fps Kop driver?
Yes but 24 fps gives zoom error, and for some reason the 3.6 and 3.71 cannot focus so clear at twilight. I have 18 fps.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-20 16:44:13, danekro wrote:
On 2007-12-20 15:16:03, jomateixa wrote:
@Guto_VIP
Tonight I will post some pics for you to see night mode. (I'm from Spain, here it's 3:15 pm)
jomateixa,de donde eres?:D
where are you from?i'm from benidorm...
saludos!
I'm from Gandia chaval. Jiji.
Posted by danekro
On 2007-12-20 17:26:06, jomateixa wrote:
On 2007-12-20 16:44:13, danekro wrote:
On 2007-12-20 15:16:03, jomateixa wrote:
@Guto_VIP
Tonight I will post some pics for you to see night mode. (I'm from Spain, here it's 3:15 pm)
jomateixa,de donde eres?:D
where are you from?i'm from benidorm...
saludos!
I'm from Gandia chaval. Jiji.
coņo!jajajaja si encima vivimos mas o menos cerquita...
we live near...
i now have installed kopritis 3.71..i try to test with nigh pictures..
Posted by danekro
now a sample made with document mode kopritis 3.71,document mode:
Posted by cardsnk
@danekro
at first glance i thought it was a table..
knowing it was actually a candy bar?
i prefer the 2.7 camdriver though...with all respect to kopritis
Posted by danekro
hi!no,its a gum
i'm testing with some modded camdrivers,now i will post photos taken outdoor by night..
with flash..
without flash:
my opinion...i think photos aren't wery well...:S
now i try to make photos with kopri 2.7..if don't like i return to gprsman 2.2 fix live color
Posted by danekro
kopritis 2.7 sharp 08 indoor only flash light:
kopritis 3.71 indoor only flash light:
gprsman 2.2 fix live color indoor only flash light:
kopitris 2.7 flash settings fix 100 indoor inly flash light:
and finally number one 2.9mixed 7.56,at same conditions:
[ This Message was edited by: danekro on 2007-12-20 20:49 ]
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-20 14:36:26, Guto_ViP wrote:
On 2007-12-20 14:23:09, jomateixa wrote:
On 2007-12-19 16:19:04, number1 wrote:
On 2007-12-19 16:11:17, genus wrote:
Here i come, 5.71 camdriver
- update from 5.7
- reduce twilightlandscape mode jpeg size compression (may reduce noise)
For those like this, just download it
http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]ed6c17/571_GNUS_camdriver.html
reducing compression gives more noise, as the k800i compresses the pictures to reduce noise anyway you done it wrong
seq_set_prop_5_9 = $"3M_low_comp"
#SET_REG(19,5A) // JPEG_INIT_QUALITY = 0x5A = 90
#SET_REG(13,82) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,0C) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,75) #SET_REG(16,02)
the right side seems to be how the picture is compressed,
seq_set_prop_5_9 = $"3M_low_comp"
#SET_REG(19,5A) // JPEG_INIT_QUALITY = 0x5A = 90
#SET_REG(13,82) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,0C) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,75) #SET_REG(16,03)
that gives a less compressed picture
the left side seems to be files sizes i have no idea how it works and what value is what, i guessed these in the my 2.9 driver.
@Number1
It's better to reduce jpeg compression cause jpeg algorithm does not compress noise and on flat colors it's increased.
Your 2.9 driver has too much red noise in night pics with flash and that is very irritating. I think it's because of saturation, but your driver is in the right way.
@genus
All I can say about your driver is: NOISE, very much noise in most situations but great pics at night.
By now, the best driver for me is still Kop 2.7 with many fixes and fps from Kop 3.71, as it gives an awesome clear twilight landscape mode and very less noise on flash/poor light pictures. Colors are not so beautiful (but maybe more real). I'm completely satisfied with it. Just an opinion.
Hope Number1 will do any better soon.
Thanks both of you for your work.
Well, give us some pictures taked with camdriver are u using.... Can be?
Pictures with Kopritis 2.7 fixed-
Automatic mode with flash:
Automatic mode without flash:
Twilight landscape EV +0.3:
This is a shaky one:
All automatic:
Posted by danekro
i finally think kopritis 2.7 is the best...
Posted by toyds
sample picture taken indoor using 2.9 cam driver of number1,
all auto
sorry my hand is shaking when I take the picture
Posted by reywal
ive been using kopritis' 2.7 for quite a while but i was captivated by GENUS' 5.7. havent got the difference between the two drivers yet.
can anyone tell me whether or not i made the right decision?
i also happened to know that kopritis' 2.7 is itself modified. would you guys kind enough to post it, or otherwise provide a link, for me?
thanks to all, mery mery mery xmas!
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[ This Message was edited by: reywal on 2007-12-21 02:35 ]
Posted by chrisgestapo
By now, the best driver for me is still Kop 2.7 with many fixes and fps from Kop 3.71, as it gives an awesome clear twilight landscape mode and very less noise on flash/poor light pictures. Colors are not so beautiful (but maybe more real). I'm completely satisfied with it. Just an opinion.
Hope Number1 will do any better soon.
Thanks both of you for your work.
Can you tell us what fixes you have applied? Or would you mind posting the one you're using?
Thank you!
Posted by phoenix1985
@ jomateixa:
Can you share Kop 2.7 fixed driver for me?
Posted by faidz85
Im very new to this moding stuffs.
ANd I;ve heard you guys talked abt +ev or sumthing..
whats that? and how do i chg it?
Posted by phoenix1985
compare genus 5.7 (sharpness 07) & Kop 2.7 fix (sharpness max 08)
Document mode, auto all:
Genus 5.7
Kop 2.7 fix
Posted by chonggi
what's the actual color of the "caller id" text on that pic?
Posted by pietropizzi
On 2007-11-04 17:26:57, Raiderski wrote:
1. you have to override default zoom change reaction because we don't need zoom change at this moment, we want only to see camera reaction at selected register changes
seq_set_prop_6 = $s4 %0 $-4 0a #SM_TEST;
// $s4 %0 - place in reg 4 input value for actual zoom
// $-4 0a - substract 0a from reg 4
// #SM_TEST - call macro (subroutine)
input values for zoom are as described in camdriver source code:
// 10 => 1.0 x zoom, 11 => 1.1 x zoom, ... 160 => 16.0 x zoom
but we are using hex values that's why:
0a = 1.0x
0b = 1.1x
0c = 1.2x
...
we want those values not from 0a but from 00 that's why code $-4 0a is used
2. macro called SM_TEST should be declared before seq_set_prop_6
content of this macro can be anything. currently we only want to chceck that this is working:
SM_TEST=#COM_EVENT(55,$w4);
// get value from reg 4 and use as contrast
in this case i used command to change contrast (value will be taken from reg 4). for now you can play with contrast using zoom keys. max contrast should be 09 (zoom 1.9x)
this is very easy example showing how you can test many values for selected register with with zoom keys. replace #COM_EVENT(55,$w4) with anything and you can test every possible register/event (don't forget to use $w4 as input value)
that's pretty easy and can save a lot of time during any test
I tried that (overruling Zoom):
SM_TEST=#COM_EVENT(55,$w4);
seq_set_prop_6 = $s4 %0 $-4 0a #SM_TEST;
but it doesn't work as expected, Zoom is still there !
Why ? Any idea ?
I think it is working in "Video telephony", but I want it in Photo-Mode !
Posted by phoenix1985
On 2007-12-21 05:47:41, chonggi wrote:
what's the actual color of the "caller id" text on that pic?
"Caller ID" text is deep orange. I thinks Genus 5.7 give right colour but a little dark. I hope Genus can fix it.
Posted by chestertan20
genus 5.61
all auto
Posted by Goldmen
On 2007-12-21 04:47:52, phoenix1985 wrote:
@ jomateixa:
Can you share Kop 2.7 fixed driver for me?
http://www.4shared.com/dir/4548322/56d5acfb/Camera_Drivers.html
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[ This Message was edited by: Goldmen on 2007-12-21 08:24 ]
Posted by Raiderski
pietropizzi
give me link (at PM) to your code i will try to help you
Posted by cardsnk
kopritis 2.7 +8 sharpness
kopritis 2.7 + 3.7 100% fix
kopritis 3.71 final mod
i really dont know...its up to you guys
Posted by number1
that level of sharpness is only good for macros or if you only want small vga sized pictures, look at the picture full size and zoom in a bit your see the effect of over sharping the picture and it's horrible loads of tiny sharpend pixels, it looks good on all pics upload here cause esato resizes them.
Posted by Raiderski
all pics above are completly different. i don't understand how you can compare them?
Posted by cardsnk
guys i own a point and shoot camera(canon powershot a640)
an slr(nikon d200)
and s.e.(k800i)
if we're talking about the original file size of jpegs in camera phones...
surely that pixels blow up.because of small sensor.particularly night shots
even the original cam driver does have noise and abberations,etc.
for my liking..
i only use my k800i for small prints.i do bring it a lot,as in "everyday"
its the least back up camera for all the cameras i own.
and i believe that if you post-process it.
it can hurt a lot.because like what i said. small sensor.
these mods by various makers...genus,gprsman,number1,kopritis,etc.
do very good jobs in creating pictures,for less or even no post processing.
they make the best out of the cell phone's camera driver mentioned
if i we're you guys...I'd buy a point and shoot if i want good pictures in lowlight and flash photography.
an slr for overall purpose camera.
for the k800i...i just use the mod which has a good fps shooting capability,and vivid color..it doesn't matter to me if the flash is not good enough..i wouldn't expect that with a camera phone.
i always resize any pic i take with the phone, so that the blown out pixels will compress.
camera phone pictures,are just like snapshots.from my point of view.
if i want to do some general photography with the phone..id say a mod with vivid color and a good fps shooting will do.
Posted by jomateixa
On 2007-12-20 22:10:48, jomateixa wrote:
On 2007-12-20 14:36:26, Guto_ViP wrote:
On 2007-12-20 14:23:09, jomateixa wrote:
On 2007-12-19 16:19:04, number1 wrote:
On 2007-12-19 16:11:17, genus wrote:
Here i come, 5.71 camdriver
- update from 5.7
- reduce twilightlandscape mode jpeg size compression (may reduce noise)
For those like this, just download it
http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]ed6c17/571_GNUS_camdriver.html
reducing compression gives more noise, as the k800i compresses the pictures to reduce noise anyway you done it wrong
seq_set_prop_5_9 = $"3M_low_comp"
#SET_REG(19,5A) // JPEG_INIT_QUALITY = 0x5A = 90
#SET_REG(13,82) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,0C) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,75) #SET_REG(16,02)
the right side seems to be how the picture is compressed,
seq_set_prop_5_9 = $"3M_low_comp"
#SET_REG(19,5A) // JPEG_INIT_QUALITY = 0x5A = 90
#SET_REG(13,82) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,0C) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,75) #SET_REG(16,03)
that gives a less compressed picture
the left side seems to be files sizes i have no idea how it works and what value is what, i guessed these in the my 2.9 driver.
@Number1
It's better to reduce jpeg compression cause jpeg algorithm does not compress noise and on flat colors it's increased.
Your 2.9 driver has too much red noise in night pics with flash and that is very irritating. I think it's because of saturation, but your driver is in the right way.
@genus
All I can say about your driver is: NOISE, very much noise in most situations but great pics at night.
By now, the best driver for me is still Kop 2.7 with many fixes and fps from Kop 3.71, as it gives an awesome clear twilight landscape mode and very less noise on flash/poor light pictures. Colors are not so beautiful (but maybe more real). I'm completely satisfied with it. Just an opinion.
Hope Number1 will do any better soon.
Thanks both of you for your work.
Well, give us some pictures taked with camdriver are u using.... Can be?
Pictures with Kopritis 2.7 fixed-
Automatic mode with flash:
Automatic mode without flash:
Twilight landscape EV +0.3:
This is a shaky one:
All automatic:
The driver I'm using is this:
http://www.4shared.com/file/2[....]s_37_fix_100_compressions.html
but changing fps to 18. Flash is forced in automatic mode for reducing noise so you have to put it off at daylight in some cases.
Posted by phoenix1985
On 2007-12-21 15:31:45, jomateixa wrote:
On 2007-12-20 22:10:48, jomateixa wrote:
On 2007-12-20 14:36:26, Guto_ViP wrote:
On 2007-12-20 14:23:09, jomateixa wrote:
On 2007-12-19 16:19:04, number1 wrote:
On 2007-12-19 16:11:17, genus wrote:
Here i come, 5.71 camdriver
- update from 5.7
- reduce twilightlandscape mode jpeg size compression (may reduce noise)
For those like this, just download it
http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]ed6c17/571_GNUS_camdriver.html
reducing compression gives more noise, as the k800i compresses the pictures to reduce noise anyway you done it wrong
seq_set_prop_5_9 = $"3M_low_comp"
#SET_REG(19,5A) // JPEG_INIT_QUALITY = 0x5A = 90
#SET_REG(13,82) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,0C) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,75) #SET_REG(16,02)
the right side seems to be how the picture is compressed,
seq_set_prop_5_9 = $"3M_low_comp"
#SET_REG(19,5A) // JPEG_INIT_QUALITY = 0x5A = 90
#SET_REG(13,82) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,0C) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,75) #SET_REG(16,03)
that gives a less compressed picture
the left side seems to be files sizes i have no idea how it works and what value is what, i guessed these in the my 2.9 driver.
@Number1
It's better to reduce jpeg compression cause jpeg algorithm does not compress noise and on flat colors it's increased.
Your 2.9 driver has too much red noise in night pics with flash and that is very irritating. I think it's because of saturation, but your driver is in the right way.
@genus
All I can say about your driver is: NOISE, very much noise in most situations but great pics at night.
By now, the best driver for me is still Kop 2.7 with many fixes and fps from Kop 3.71, as it gives an awesome clear twilight landscape mode and very less noise on flash/poor light pictures. Colors are not so beautiful (but maybe more real). I'm completely satisfied with it. Just an opinion.
Hope Number1 will do any better soon.
Thanks both of you for your work.
Well, give us some pictures taked with camdriver are u using.... Can be?
Pictures with Kopritis 2.7 fixed-
Automatic mode with flash:
Automatic mode without flash:
Twilight landscape EV +0.3:
This is a shaky one:
All automatic:
The driver I'm using is this:
http://www.4shared.com/file/2[....]s_37_fix_100_compressions.html
but changing fps to 18. Flash is forced in automatic mode for reducing noise so you have to put it off at daylight in some cases.
Can you share Kop 2.7 fix modded by youself?
Posted by genus
Here is my final camdriver 5.8
- increase document mode exposure compare to 5.7
- change document exposure time when flash fire
- increase jpeg compression (as told by number1
)
- super night mode A change to ISO200
On document AF-LED
http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]/58_on_gnus_advance_final.html
Off document AF-LED
http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]d3c/58_gnus_advance_final.html
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-12-22 07:27 ]
Posted by chonggi
On 2007-12-22 08:12:36, genus wrote:
Here is my final camdriver 5.8
- increase document mode exposure compare to 5.7
- change document exposure time when flash fire
- increase jpeg compression (as told by number1
)
- super night mode A change to ISO200
On document AF-LED
http://www.4shared.com/file/3[....]/58_on_gnus_advance_final.html
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-12-22 07:15 ]
hehe i have just loaded your 5.71 to test it but now here comes another surprise. this is great news. thanks for the presents Genus. any taken pics with 5.8 lately?
Posted by genus
I dont knw wat happen here, so hard for me to make a post.
anyway
tehre is two different version for you to choose, Happy X'mas
ok, that's all, next modding work, let it for other modder
I just wan to focus on the technique to take photo & editing.
document, +2.0ev
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-12-22 07:29 ]
Posted by jAKXX
Thx Genus. Trying your 5.8 today.
Posted by chonggi
@ genus
what's the difference between document AF LED on & off? not familiar with those terms
Posted by chestertan20
genus 5.8
document mode flash on
Posted by Mike2
On 2007-12-22 08:53:04, chonggi wrote:
@ genus
what's the difference between document AF LED on & off? not familiar with those terms
Posted by burner8
@genus: thank you for the new driver, and for the AF LED OFF version.
Unfortunate, correctly it harms that you stop modding.
not everything ran here nicely, but don't look @ that?
I have your work always estimated
Happy XMAS for you
Posted by genus
I still have 2 more 5.8 camdriver to post it. This two are not decrease exposure -0.3EV as default, because sometimes decrease exposure will cause the picture look darker.
Posted by pietropizzi
@genus
Thank you for the new driver !
Please check the place you put default color gain (58,07).
I still believe it's not used by Landscape, beach/Snow and sports
because the Flash is disabled by default !
I'm doing some tests with forcing (58,x) on some effects
but nature is not very colorful these days in Vienna....grey sky, white nature
But I knew it worked in your older versions when (58,08) was on effect 0.
/Edit: Thats my code, hope it makes sense....
seq_set_prop_8 =
$s5 %0
$c5 00
$cl
$c5 01
#COM_EVENT(58,04) // Color Gain 4
$cl
$c5 02
#COM_EVENT(58,08) // Color Gain 8
$cl
$c5 03
#COM_EVENT(58,0F) // Color Gain F
$cl
#COM_EVENT(58,00) // Color Gain Reset
$cx
$cx
$cx
$cx;
[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2007-12-22 12:19 ]
Posted by G-Izzat
On 2007-12-22 13:12:27, pietropizzi wrote:
@genus
Thank you for the new driver !
Please check the place you put default color gain (58,07).
I still believe it's not used by Landscape, beach/Snow and sports
because the Flash is disabled by default !
I'm doing some tests with forcing (58,x) on some effects
but nature is not very colorful these days in Vienna....grey sky, white nature
But I knew it worked in your older versions when (58,08) was on effect 0.
/Edit: Thats my code, hope it makes sense....
[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2007-12-22 12:19 ]
So we should just replace the code in prop 8 of genus 5.8 with your code?
Then that'll make the landscape have the colour gain effect?
[ This Message was edited by: G-Izzat on 2007-12-22 12:34 ]
Posted by pietropizzi
So we should just replace the code in prop 8 of genus 5.8 with your code?
Then that'll make the landscape have the colour gain effect?
[ This Message was edited by: G-Izzat on 2007-12-22 12:34 ]
I don't know. It's just a "try" to proof that color gain in certain modes is not used.
Please keep in mind it's just more "playing around" with code than professional work like the ones from genus or nr1 ....
My code should switch different color gains on different effect settings (because I don't need effects, they can later be apllied more easily with professional photo-tools)
@all modders
I'd like to understand the way the driver is read by cam.
I think it is not read synchron (begin --> end)
What priorty do the properties have ? How are they changed/overruled ?
Example:
I put (58,0f) on solarize and select that effect, can it later be overruled if document mode has (58,06) and I select that ?
[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2007-12-22 14:05 ]
Posted by pietropizzi
OK, forget about my code, it's worthless in combination with the genus 5.8
From what I see:
*) Property 14 (where genus put color gain) is higher priority than Prop 8.
*) genus is completely right - all modes use the (58,07) setting !
Modes with disabled flash just use the Flash-Off setting - thats OK.
I tested that - never seeing a color gain change with my code (now I know why!) - with just putting (53,x) instead of (58,y).
(x=1,2,3,4)
So I saw with the corresponding effect what color gain would be used.
And setting another effect afterwards in Effects had no effect
The effect chosen by flash setting still overruled.
If that all was confusing 4 you - Merry Christmas and forget about it....
All the others who still see clear - Merry Christmas !
[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2007-12-22 23:30 ]
Posted by G-Izzat
On 2007-12-23 00:27:18, pietropizzi wrote:
OK, forget about my code, it's worthless in combination with the genus 5.8
From what I see:
*) Property 14 (where genus put color gain) is higher priority than Prop 8.
*) genus is completely right - all modes use the (58,07) setting !
Modes with disabled flash just use the Flash-Off setting - thats OK.
I tested that - never seeing a color gain change with my code (now I know why!) - with just putting (53,x) instead of (58,y).
(x=1,2,3,4)
So I saw with the corresponding effect what color gain would be used.
And setting another effect afterwards in Effects had no effect
The effect chosen by flash setting still overruled.
If that all was confusing 4 you - Merry Christmas and forget about it....
All the others who still see clear - Merry Christmas !
[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2007-12-22 23:30 ]
Heh, was just about to post about this.
Merry christmas to you as well.
Posted by G-Izzat
Genus 5.8. AF LED on. Document Mode.
[img=http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9921/dsc01932cx7.th.jpg]
Posted by satan2k3
@genus
Is there a way we can control 'daylight-iso' and 'daylight-shutter-speed' like your super night mode?
Posted by chadiwrx
Some pix with 5.8 gnus final
Posted by G-Izzat
Genus 5.8. Twilight landscape. -2.0.
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Posted by genus
@G-Izzat
Wow, fantastic LG KU990!!! I wan to see the picture taken with it!!!
Ok, nevermind, i will post my final mod out before the X'mas, let me have some time to test it.
Posted by genus
On 2007-12-23 13:24:06, satan2k3 wrote:
@genus
Is there a way we can control 'daylight-iso' and 'daylight-shutter-speed' like your super night mode?
Very hard to do it, if can, the user muz have the problem to choose the ISO too, because everything need to be done in manual alrdy, not auto.
Posted by G-Izzat
On 2007-12-23 18:08:17, genus wrote:
@G-Izzat
Wow, fantastic LG KU990!!! I wan to see the picture taken with it!!!
Ok, nevermind, i will post my final mod out before the X'mas, let me have some time to test it.
Haha, yeah. It's the LG Viewty. I'll try to post a few pictures taken with it.
However, I'm actually more impressed with the picture that I took of it's camera using macro mode and your latest camdriver.
It's very clear and nice.
I really like your camdriver,man.
What can we expect from your next camdriver?
[ This Message was edited by: G-Izzat on 2007-12-23 17:21 ]
Posted by genus
In my next driver the change log just only exposure setting only. How about the sharpness? Is that enough?