Posted by lpachuong
Yes, it is. Is that from driver 2.7 ?
Posted by tranced
it should be, because of its title:
K800i hybryda 2.7 movie
Posted by TheNerd
I would like to understand something,the video settings are also stored in "camdriver0.dat" file?
Posted by lpachuong
On 2007-08-26 22:42:03, TheNerd wrote:
I would like to understand something,the video settings are also stored in "camdriver0.dat" file?
What do you mean? camdriver0.dat will control the fps for recording video. There is another files for decoding recorded video like codec on the computer
Posted by tranced
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Yes
Posted by kopritis
New mod from me ver 2.8 for k800/810i
*More quality, sharp and clear pictures, 95% compression at Fine mode with 1MB buffer
The driver is stable and not jump to the main screen... I've tested for 4 days now!
Join the new mod!!!
download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/51476311/camdriver0.rar.html
mirror download link: http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/7459/camdriver0-rar.html
P.S. at page 4 it's my mod 2.7....
[ This Message was edited by: kopritis on 2007-08-27 09:42 ]
Posted by milan91
oh yeaa, lets go
Thank you kopritis
Posted by [c3]
thanx for the driver however the site is not working for me, for some reason it keeps on telling me that i have reached the limit, the sad thing is that i never joined the website b4
so can u pm me the driver or send it to my email? let me know if u want me to pm you my email. I dont know if its against the site's policies to post my email.
regards.
Posted by kopritis
On 2007-08-27 00:31:37, [c3] wrote:
thanx for the driver however the site is not working for me, for some reason it keeps on telling me that i have reached the limit, the sad thing is that i never joined the website b4
so can u pm me the driver or send it to my email? let me know if u want me to pm you my email. I dont know if its against the site's policies to post my email.
regards.
PM your email!
Posted by milan91
Oh driver is good
first pic with 2.7
second 2.8
profile twilight portrait and white balance incandescent, with flash
Posted by floxigen01
Have you change fps in videos ?
Posted by kopritis
On 2007-08-27 00:44:15, floxigen01 wrote:
Have you change fps in videos ?
With video recording i will work in a few days but i'm not promise anything!!!
Posted by [c3]
thanx for the driver bro. btw is there a way of doing this on a mac? or do i have to use a windows pc? sorry if this is in the wrong thread.
i dont know whats wrong with the usb driver when i use parallels. any tips?
thanks
Posted by floxigen01
Where have i to put it ?
Posted by kopritis
On 2007-08-27 00:50:46, [c3] wrote:
thanx for the driver bro. btw is there a way of doing this on a mac? or do i have to use a windows pc? sorry if this is in the wrong thread.
i dont know whats wrong with the usb driver when i use parallels. any tips?
thanks
Maybe is better to use windows pc...
Posted by [c3]
yeah ill try one more time and see what happens. I need to install everything again on my parallels i dont know why this happens. do u know where can i download the flasher and the drivers? i lost all my bookmarks. sorry for bothering u, but i really wanna check out this cam driver.
regards.
Posted by kopritis
On 2007-08-27 00:58:29, [c3] wrote:
yeah ill try one more time and see what happens. I need to install everything again on my parallels i dont know why this happens. do u know where can i download the flasher and the drivers? i lost all my bookmarks. sorry for bothering u, but i really wanna check out this cam driver.
regards.
Go to the sonyericsson site man and download the usb drivers. for Far manager goto google and search
BTW i'm using a windows pc with vista and i don't have problems...
[ This Message was edited by: kopritis on 2007-08-27 00:23 ]
Posted by milan91
flash drivers find on www.davinciteam.com and for XS++ use google
Posted by max_wedge
I just tested a driver with flash set to 100 ISO, and macro flash pictures are way better. However on portrait or further away shots the picture is way under-exposed. Shutter speed is 1/250. Next thing I guess is try the flash iso-100 and shutter speed 1/100.
So it looks like SE is using ISO to complement the flash, which itself is way underpowered.
Oh give me a nice strong led light please! Or even the MXE-60.
Posted by chadiwrx
Can the T650i cam driver be used in a K800i?
Posted by mts
you think is somehow better Chadi?
Cheers matesola
Posted by [c3]
I've been trying to upload the driver for 45 mins now using XS++ is this normal cuz i just unplugged the phone. are there any tips that u can give me? im using this through parallels (a program that runs windows on mac using virtualizaion)
Posted by mongoose3800
Well, I just tried the 2.8 camera driver and it crashed on the 3rd shot. With exception to the sharpness option there's not much in it that I haven't already tried. i.e. increasing buffer and compression. And, the results are just as I expected. i.e. At 95% the file size of an image is smaller than one taken at 90% and i can't see any real improvement in image quality. It's really hard to know if there has been an improvement as the K800 is very inconsistant with the quality of pictures it takes.
Also, I'm yet to see any improvement of the jagged line effect. For those who don't think there is a jagged effect in the K800 here's a guaranteed way to see it - Go out side and take a side on picture of a white, silver or bright metalic car from say at least 4 metres away. Then view image at original size on a computer screen and look at the panel gaps and door frames.
Posted by chadiwrx
On 2007-08-27 03:16:53, mts wrote:
you think is somehow better Chadi?
Cheers matesola
I don't know as i haven't tried it yet.
But i will try it out later.
For anyone that is interested here is original T650i (R7AA024) cam drivers.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ezwdcvx1kgt
Posted by max_wedge
On 2007-08-27 02:51:27, max_wedge wrote:
I just tested a driver with flash set to 100 ISO, and macro flash pictures are way better. However on portrait or further away shots the picture is way under-exposed. Shutter speed is 1/250. Next thing I guess is try the flash iso-100 and shutter speed 1/100.
So it looks like SE is using ISO to complement the flash, which itself is way underpowered.
Oh give me a nice strong led light please! Or even the MXE-60.
I can't work out how to modify shutter speed.
tried some different values in
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I changed 0E to 0A, but the hex values (14,10 respectively) don't make sense to me. Changing to 0A didn't result in any shutter speed changes for flash pictures. Is shutter speed related to another formula maybe?
Posted by juming
Thanks a lot, anyway I think the setting is little aggresive on sharpening, cause it makes oversharp on some picture in Macro mode, I de-tune the setting to 03 instead 06, and it's resulted more balanced.
On 2007-08-27 00:25:15, kopritis wrote:
New mod from me ver 2.8 for k800/810i
*More quality, sharp and clear pictures, 95% compression at Fine mode with 1MB buffer
The driver is stable and not jump to the main screen... I've tested for 4 days now!
Join the new mod!!!
download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/51476311/camdriver0.rar.html
P.S. at page 4 it's my mod 2.7....
[ This Message was edited by: kopritis on 2007-08-26 23:44 ]
Posted by max_wedge
On 2007-08-27 03:26:58, mongoose3800 wrote:
Also, I'm yet to see any improvement of the jagged line effect. For those who don't think there is a jagged effect in the K800 here's a guaranteed way to see it - Go out side and take a side on picture of a white, silver or bright metalic car from say at least 4 metres away. Then view image at original size on a computer screen and look at the panel gaps and door frames.
mongoose I know you don't want to hear it, but I'm sure I can't repeat the effect as easily as you say. My camera simply doesn't have the problem your's has. VERY occasionally I get a slight jagged line effect. I really don't believe all cameras suffer this "bug" as much as your's does.
My interest in modding has nothing to do with jagged lines, I'm more interested in clearing up the too heavy filtering or whatever causes this watercolour affect (that seems now to be a result of high ISO or at least related somehow). Though of course I hope you find a fix, I don't think camera driver modding will help you.
If my camera was spewing out jagged edge pictures the way yours is I'd be going back to SE for a replacement handset I can tell you now. It's not something easy to miss, and I just can't seem to reliably repeat the issue.
Posted by amarsidhu
@lpachuong
yeah bro i lost my w810 few days back.
and now even i don't have my k750 its with my sis for some days
now a days using k800i
really its clicking nice pictures with 2.7 from kopritis.
now show your talent also frnd with K800i camdriver.
Posted by mongoose3800
On 2007-08-27 05:16:09, max_wedge wrote:
mongoose I know you don't want to hear it, but I'm sure I can't repeat the effect as easily as you say. My camera simply doesn't have the problem your's has. VERY occasionally I get a slight jagged line effect. I really don't believe all cameras suffer this "bug" as much as your's does.
My interest in modding has nothing to do with jagged lines, I'm more interested in clearing up the too heavy filtering or whatever causes this watercolour affect (that seems now to be a result of high ISO or at least related somehow). Though of course I hope you find a fix, I don't think camera driver modding will help you.
If my camera was spewing out jagged edge pictures the way yours is I'd be going back to SE for a replacement handset I can tell you now. It's not something easy to miss, and I just can't seem to reliably repeat the issue.
I thought the issue was bad enough that I actually did contact SE. I sent them samples too. SE told me it was JPG compression and to watch out for a firmware update.
I am still convinced this is an issue with all K800's and that there is nothing wrong with my K800. If there was a fault with my phone it would affect all photos - which it doesn't. I'd almost put money on all K800's having this problem. Have a look at this image (at full screen) from GSMARENA: http://www.mobilmania.cz/Arti[....]yEricsson_K800i&file=%2F09.JPG You can't miss the jagged effect around the windows and windscreen. You certainly can't miss it all over two of the cars in the back ground. It almost makes the image strobe. If you can't see that you're blind. The problem is some people just don't see the issue because they're off taking soft photos of flowers or people. Or maybe they have small monitors.
Max, I've certainly seen traces of the jaggedness in your photos and I've only seen a couple of your photos. I think you'll find it occurs most on highly contrasted edges. I'm convinced you can actually reproduce the problem with ease. So, do me a favour and go out and take some pictures of cars side on and prove me wrong. By that I mean full side on photo from about 4 metres away so that the car and it surrounds all fit in the photo. Auto mode in good lighting. Make sure you get a white car and silver car. Then email your photos to me or simply post them here: http://www.esato.com/phonephotos
[ This Message was edited by: mongoose3800 on 2007-08-27 06:14 ]
Posted by hellvy
On 2007-08-27 05:14:22, juming wrote:
Thanks a lot, anyway I think the setting is little aggresive on sharpening, cause it makes oversharp on some picture in Macro mode, I de-tune the setting to 03 instead 06, and it's resulted more balanced.
I agree that k790/800's default sharpness is high enough and too high sometimes, like this pic
full res.
http://www.pic2.us/pic/coy4821.jpg
So i think increase sharpess may not neccessary, fixing water color issue it is
I am still convinced this is an issue with all K800's and that there is nothing wrong with my K800. If there was a fault with my phone it would affect all photos - which it doesn't.
Hi mongoose, i got some pics with that issue too (crop from 3 MP images).
But it's not only k790/800. i got it by k750 also (cropped from 2 MP image)..
Other than jpeg compression things, could it be sharpness setting ?
[ This Message was edited by: hellvy on 2007-08-27 09:12 ]
Posted by Neo-Tech
Keep on bringing it guys, i can't wait for the perfect driver
Posted by max_wedge
Yeah, I'm not saying it's only your phone, just that the issue is more pronounced on some than others. I saw quite a wide variety of quality between handsets in K750 handsets. When I say wide, for example I saw cameras with virtually no white lines in low light, and others with white lines so bad the photo was completely unusable. This is despite them being flashed with identical firmware. So unfortunately I can't be too sure of SE's quality control when it comes to camera modules (perhaps the blame is Sony's?)
However that said I'm still not sure whether I don't get the problem badly or if my expectations are just lower! I will look through my photos again. As I've said before I don't deny I get the affect, but I've only been feeling that it's an occasional thing, no more concerning than any number of other cheap digital camera issues that crop up in even the best camera phones (aka the K800).
Maybe it's an aliasing affect that arises in only very specific circumstances?
Posted by amarsidhu
i have not tried 2.8 on my k800
coz i was satisfied with teh 2.7 sharpness
but what do you say guys
is 2.8 better
Posted by mongoose3800
Hellvy, you have definately picked up on what I'm seeing. Thank god - I'm not insane.
Max, once you start looking I'm sure you'll find the jagged edges affects more photos than you think. Especially if you look at them at full size on a 17-19" monitor. I wasn't really that aware of it until I took photos of my new car. And bang there they were ruining the picture. Then I started looking back at my photo's with more scrutiny and found it affected so many images in one way or another. i.e. Cats whiskers, stems on flowers, fine branches on trees, leaves, building ledges, the hands on clocks, numbers, edges on paper, etc, etc.
The reason I am picky is because I don't print my photo's. Printed at 6x4 you'll probably never see the jagged effect. But, I prefer to keep my photo's organised on a computer and viewing them on a computer. I can honestly say I have never seen anything ruin photo's so often in this manner as the K800 - not even those from 10 years ago. The more you look at K800 photo's the more you'll be disappointed. I also tend to find pictures have un-natural looking outlines and I agree with you, Max, that photo's do look like water colour paintings. The grid lines that bugged me on the W800/K750 are not as annoying as this. And, you know what - you can actually take photos with the W800 and get a similar jagged effect - if you use digital zoom. What does that say about the K800. If it's not a driver issue then the sensor must not be that good.
So, I am really hopeful that we can somehow figure out something that will overcome the excessive jpg compression, improve image quality and colour. I plan/hope to do some more testing and would like to better understand how the driver works. Namely, I want to figure out why increasing the compression to 95 results in smaller file sizes. Why decreasing the compression figure to 85 results in a larger images. Is the camera set too sharp? Do any settings actually make that much difference and if so, why. It may take some time, and I may achieve nothing, but i'll give it a good shot and hope others will continue to experiment as well.
Posted by [c3]
Keep it up guys. Great job. As far as i've seen I cant upload the driver to my phone now bcz im using my mac:( ill do it as soon as i get back from my trip.
Posted by hellvy
On 2007-08-27 10:54:23, max_wedge wrote:
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Maybe it's an aliasing affect that arises in only very specific circumstances?
That's what i'm trying to say. It's anti-aliasing process not sharpen setting, sorry -_-'
The reason I am picky is because I don't print my photo's. Printed at 6x4 you'll probably never see the jagged effect. But, I prefer to keep my photo's organised on a computer and viewing them on a computer.
hmm.. that's quite different from my view, mongoose. I don't print photo paper often too. But i use print-out photo paper as reference. If the picture on paper looks good, i don't care much about what it's displayed on screen, strange color, noise, jagged edge.
I always think that monitor screen give much more detail than print-out paper (i'm still using old-time 17" Trinitron monitor
). So any artifacts can be revealed there. Pls note that i'm not a digital camera guy. Just k750/790 user fooling around. May be i have a narrow point of view about this stuff.
And, you know what - you can actually take photos with the W800 and get a similar jagged effect - if you use digital zoom. What does that say about the K800. If it's not a driver issue then the sensor must not be that good.
Oops, that's hurt. But you still believe in the power of K800 right?
Anyway, may be this anti-aliasing setting thing is hiding somewhere in the camera driver. Waiting for you modder guys found it
[ This Message was edited by: hellvy on 2007-08-27 16:13 ]
Posted by centur
On 2007-08-26 22:27:28, tranced wrote:
the video looks awesome(quality-wise). 40 fps?
Posted by xan K
mmhmmm, unless youtube changes uploaded videos resolution, but that is not our phone's video size.
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[ This Message was edited by: xan K on 2007-08-27 22:24 ]
Posted by mongoose3800
Well there you go. I have done some research on anti-aliasing and it perfectly describles what I am noticing. So, there's another avenue for me to look at.
Posted by max_wedge
aliasing is common to all digital cameras, even in some circumstances quality digital cameras can produce aliasing. This is why I've tended to discount the aliasing - it's a disappointing phenomenon, but one I've noticed in all the digicams I've ever used.
The aliasing I've noticed in K800 is not that unusual, however some of the examples you gave are quite bad and I haven't had that with my K800. For example the playground slide, that's an appalling case of aliasing and I haven't had anything near as noticable as that.
btw, sharpening worsens the aliasing affect. Softening improves it but at the cost of detail.
Posted by juming
That's why I'm decreasing the sharpening on kopritis 2.8 camdriver, cause if I make it lower the jaggies going low, but so far very subjective to judge which setting is \"balanced\" for individual, so try yourself for sharpening setting, but for me 03 is the balanced setting (which is give 37.5% sharpening).
On 2007-08-28 01:39:06, max_wedge wrote:
btw, sharpening worsens the aliasing affect. Softening improves it but at the cost of detail.
Posted by BLKSNAKER
Take a shot in draft mode, the flash activates, but the pic gets underexposed, despite this, the picture looks great, you can see it after applyin photo dj light balance filter. That is the line we gotta follow
Posted by max_wedge
yep, I set the flash to 100 in the driver (instead of 400 ISO) and got the same results.
Draft mode does the same thing (document setting iso = 100)
Posted by juming
On 2007-08-28 05:43:01, max_wedge wrote:
yep, I set the flash to 100 in the driver (instead of 400 ISO) and got the same results.
Draft mode does the same thing (document setting iso = 100)
Set it to ISO 200 is better, little bit grainy, but all is Ok, other is set ISO 100 and set EV to 1.
Posted by max_wedge
so ISO 200 isn't too badly under-exposed? 100 was way dark, I thought of trying 200, but hadn't got around to it yet..
Posted by rockygali
but if its a bit grainy... id rather stick to the stock driver...
Posted by max_wedge
bit grainy compared to 100 ISO that we havebeen experimenting with, but not grainy compared to the default 400 ISO (the iso that flas pics use)
Posted by mongoose3800
Improvement found:
It's early stages at the moment (i'm still testing) but I think I have been able to make an improvement that goes a long way to reducing the jagged edges. Firstly, I must explain something to everyone - I think the there is an upper limit of 900kb for the max file size that the actual image creation software in the F/W can handle. I've come to this conclusion because no matter how hard I try I can not get any setting of much more than 900kb to work reliably and not crash the camera S/W. So, I've decided to give up on the 3mp images as I think they are a lost cause and start playing around with the 2mp image settings instead.
I've always thought the K800's 3mp images were no better than it's 2mp images. If I can produce 2mp images that are superior to the 3mp images I will be happy. So, I thought, why not apply the file size settings for 3mp images to the 2mp image settings. You know what, it works. I am now getting 2mp images that are 700-800kb in size. So far the camera has not crashed once and the images are definately clearer than the 3mp images. I've been taking direct comparison shots and asked work collegues for their opinion and they agree. I would post samples but I don't have the ability to submit images from work. And, as image quality is a personal thing I would suggest people do their own testing. So far, I've done around 10 comparison shots and each one of the 2mp images has far less jagged effect than the 3mp image. I've also done a couple of comparisons with a W810 and my K800 is now a clear winner in 2mp mode.
Max, I think also think the images with these settings amy improve the water colour effect you've noticed because the outlines are smoother. I'd like to know what you think.
I've still got some testing to do and I haven't tested 95% compression yet.
If you want to experiment further just replace the 2mp settings in your camera driver with the following:
seq_set_prop_5_6 = $"2M_High_comp"
#SET_REG(19,4B) // JPEG_INIT_QUALITY = 0x4B = 75d
#SET_REG(13,20) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,58) #SET_REG(18,02)
#SET_REG(15,90) #SET_REG(16,01);
seq_set_prop_5_7 = $"2M_low_comp"
#SET_REG(19,5A) // JPEG_INIT_QUALITY = 0x5A = 90d
#SET_REG(13,84) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,20) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,58) #SET_REG(16,02);
I'd really like to know what others think.
Posted by rockygali
@mongoose
im no techie and no modder but its laid out on plain english.. as long as i can improve something with the stock driver id gladly agree...
but man! promise me that the settings on 3mp will stay as of the stock default.
coz right now im very happy with my K810 3mp stock driver...
havent played with 2mp.. but with your driver.. its worth the wait.
i congratulate you in advance for seeking beyond what others thought theyve seen..
Posted by mongoose3800
The settings i posted will not alter your 3mp settings. All they do is change the max, target and min file size for the 2 mp setting. When you edit the camera driver just scroll down to the 2mp settings your self - look for "seq_set_prop_5_6 = $"2M_High_comp". When you look at it it is quite self explanitory. The values are in hex. So for example the default max file size for 2mp high comp is 600. 600 in Hex is 258. For some reason the driver breaks that up to in to 2 seperate values working backwards. i.e. 58 and 02. Make sense? So to change to max size to 900 you convert 900 to Hex, which is 384. You then break that down to two values of 84 and 03 and change the setting accordingly - "#SET_REG(13,84) #SET_REG(14,03)" I hope that helps if you want to manually change the setting. Alternatively, you could make it easier and cut and paste what I provided straight over the top of the original 2mp settings.
Provided you are comfortable with FAR or XS++ this is a very safe thing to do as there are so many copies of the original camera driver floating around that you can always download it and copy it back to your phone if you really screw up the driver. I wouldn't be experimenting if I didn't have the original driver to put back in place. I've had to put the original back in place many times.