Posted by Raiderski
milan91
hiuh, no, i'm too much tired after all experiences with K750 :/
Posted by norbi_nw
i see u know a lot about camdrivers. Just give it a try. Make a good model, and other modders will follow it. Plz. Also for the colors, there where 2 pix in number1's topic, where someone took a pic of a plant (green) with both camdrivers. number1s had better color. I'll post the likn if i'll find it (if someone can help me).
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=156608&start=105
[ This Message was edited by: norbi_nw on 2007-11-01 23:44 ]
Posted by milan91
Raiderski,
and what to do 
back again on k750 
Posted by kuratinja
i still prefer kop than number 1....no offense ok !!
Posted by whitehackker
too bad when i updated to k810 latest FW my 24 fps VR become pixelated..... any fix out there?
Posted by Igor Vidic
On 2007-11-01 23:59:18, burner8 wrote:
So the best compromise for me is the 2.7 with the flash-settings of 3.7.
I've tried it, it's cool.
Could you, please, post the part of the driver that involves flash-settings?
[ This Message was edited by: Igor Vidic on 2007-11-02 08:49 ]
Posted by number1
On 2007-11-02 00:40:47, norbi_nw wrote:
i see u know a lot about camdrivers. Just give it a try. Make a good model, and other modders will follow it. Plz. Also for the colors, there where 2 pix in number1's topic, where someone took a pic of a plant (green) with both camdrivers. number1s had better color. I'll post the likn if i'll find it (if someone can help me).
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=156608&start=105
[ This Message was edited by: norbi_nw on 2007-11-01 23:44 ]
thats what i mean by 100% compression gives better colours.
Posted by RevoWution
Someone wanna give me the edited lines I need to change in my camdriver0.dat for 24fps video recording? I've tried myself but I only get 15fps lol...
I tried copying number1's v7.56 24fps VR to Kopritis' v2.7 lol, but only get 15fps...
Posted by Raiderski
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=156608&start=105
thats what i mean by 100% compression gives better colours.
what meaning here does the compression have? taken from link:
yup, the k770i white balance really work!!! It do give better color.
1st pic was taken with auto WB, 2nd with probably with daylight WB that's all
do you really believe that your driver is doing photos with 100% quality? don't get me wrong, i don't want to be rude but many people are reading what here is being written and they should get only a truth
Posted by number1
i don't believe it's full 100% compression, cause the file size decreases and not increases ur right with 100% compression i should be getting 1.5mb file sizes i have tried everything to get the file size higer but nothing works. i do believe the compression is less though in 2.8 i wasn't using the k770i whitebalance but it still gave nice colours, i belive the picture is uncompressed but theres something compressing the file size.
[ This Message was edited by: number1 on 2007-11-02 10:22 ]
Posted by genus
if you really understand the code and programming it seem not work. It is due to the technique you take the photo. Actually, with increasing sharpness it is enough for me to take better picture, you can see my post, all done better.
Posted by burner8
Hi friends,
here is my best driver combination:
kopritis 2.7
new components:
1. Force flash
2. VR 25 fps
3. flash settigs from kopritis 3.7
4. 100% compression
5. Sharpness 06 to 08 (full sharpness)
Please, try out and tell me please your opinion.
This driver give the best pics at all settings.
It is the best compromise.
http://rapidshare.com/files/6[....]fix_100__compressions.rar.html
Thank you kopritis, number1 and any other help here.
With your help i like my k800 a i can let my digicam at home.
[ This Message was edited by: burner8 on 2007-11-02 10:31 ]
[ This Message was edited by: burner8 on 2007-11-02 10:35 ]
Posted by RevoWution
On 2007-11-02 11:26:01, burner8 wrote:
Hi friends,
here is my best driver combination:
kopritis 2.7
new components:
1. Force flash
2. VR 25 fps
3. flash settigs from kopritis 3.7
4. 100% compression
5. Sharpness 06 to 08 (full sharpness)
Please, try out and tell me please your opinion.
This driver give the best pics at all settings.
It is the best compromise.
http://rapidshare.com/files/6[....]fix_100__compressions.rar.html
Thank you kopritis, number1 and any other help here.
With your help i like my k800 a i can let my digicam at home.
[ This Message was edited by: burner8 on 2007-11-02 10:31 ]
[ This Message was edited by: burner8 on 2007-11-02 10:35 ]
Still has zoom bug when recording a video mate... :/
What's the maximum fps we can have without zoom bug guys?
Posted by burner8
i dont'know.
I don't use zoom@video.
Posted by RevoWution
Oic. It's cool
I prefer to have my camera driver as bug free as possible
Cheers for sharing though!
Posted by Raiderski
4. 100% compression
the plague of misunderstandings, without comments...
Posted by burner8
you are right, but i prefer to have a better video quality with a zoombug which i not see, because i don't use it.
it is better, as a bad video quality with a not used good digital zoom.
@Raiderski.
this settings give a little bit better colours. That is whar is important for me.
[ This Message was edited by: burner8 on 2007-11-02 12:14 ]
Posted by Raiderski
this settings give a little bit better colours. That is whar is important for me.
what exactly do you mean by "better"? it's being repeated as the mantra. do you really see difference? can you prove it with really serious test? do this. my proposition for jpeg encoder parameters:
#SET_REG(19,5E)
#SET_REG(13,84) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,34) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,58) #SET_REG(16,02);
place this in seq_set_prop_5_8 and leave your setting in seq_set_prop_5_9. you will be able to switch between compression settings with camera menu not by replacing whole driver. if you'll use auto white balance, remember: auto WB system is working all the time that's why colors on first photo can be different from colors on second photo. that's why you should wait some time after camera open to stabilize WB or use non auto WB
Posted by burner8
@Raiderski:
i said, that it is a little bit better. It also can be a fancy.
I'm searching the settings to have better colour and more contrast. Black is often grey. Can you please please tell me, where i have to search?
[ This Message was edited by: burner8 on 2007-11-02 13:05 ]
Posted by number1
what exactly do you mean by "better"? it's being repeated as the mantra. do you really see difference? can you prove it with really serious test? do this. my proposition for jpeg encoder parameters:
#SET_REG(19,5E)
#SET_REG(13,84) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,34) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,58) #SET_REG(16,02);
place this in seq_set_prop_5_8 and leave your setting in seq_set_prop_5_9. you will be able to switch between compression settings with camera menu not by replacing whole driver. if you'll use auto white balance, remember: auto WB system is working all the time that's why colors on first photo can be different from colors on second photo. that's why you should wait some time after camera open to stabilize WB or use non auto WB
i dno but for some reason gives better colours it just does
#SET_REG(19,64)
#SET_REG(13,64) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,64) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,64) #SET_REG(16,03);
#SET_REG(19,5E)<<< why 94%
#SET_REG(13,84) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,34) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,58) #SET_REG(16,02);
i would also like to point out
#SET_REG(19,64)
#SET_REG(13,7A) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,7A) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,7A) #SET_REG(16,03);
that increases the exposure of the picture just a little, u can see this in my 7.6 SE driver
Posted by Raiderski
this can be:
1. a bit too slow shutter speed (exposition time)
2. too high contrast
3. exposure compensation above 0.0 (in seq_set_prop_0)
very often and common is 1 because shutter speed calculation is automatic and every black "spot" is interpreted by phone as "too low light - decrease shutter speed to catch more details". after a lot of tests with various contrast, brightness and exposure compensation settings i gave up. overall, i gave up and i left contrast 00, brightness 00 and EV 0.0
you must like this pity gray issue
Posted by number1
#SET_REG(19,5E)
#SET_REG(13,84) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,34) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,58) #SET_REG(16,02);
file sizes are alot smaller about 600kb-750kb, colours aren't quite as good thats all i noticed,
#SET_REG(19,64)
#SET_REG(13,7A) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,7A) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,7A #SET_REG(16,03);
that makes the picture overexposure and i'm 100% certain it's that and nothing else
Posted by Raiderski
number1
a bit better colors, a bit increased exposure...
i would like to see comparisions to authenticate these thesis. first of all, can you post some photos (original size) taken with your driver? i think that "fancy" word used by burner8 is right. of course i'm fully able to change my opinion but i really want to see proves
quality 94% because (in my opinion) this is max. reasonable value for max. 900kb photo, i don't believe in quality near 100% in 900kb
colours aren't quite as good thats all i noticed,
can we see any proves?
that makes the picture overexposure and i'm 100% certain it's that and nothing else
so, you're saying that jpeg file size rule at 890kb will make picture overexposed? sorry but what jpeg file size rule has to do with exposure time? don't you think that this is ridiculous?
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[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2007-11-02 14:15 ]
Posted by number1
http://www.esato.com/board/vi[....].php?topic=155278&start=30look threw the first couple of pages theres quite a few test shots, comparing 2.7 to 3.3 the only real difference between the two drivers is mine is using #SET_REG(19,5A)
#SET_REG(13,5A) #SET_REG(14,03)
#SET_REG(17,5A) #SET_REG(18,03)
#SET_REG(15,5A) #SET_REG(16,03);
it causes overexposure try it in any k800i camdriver it will cause over exposure
Posted by Igor Vidic
@burner8
Great combination, but I noticed some overexposure in daylight shots in Auto mode and underexposure in Twilight portrait mode with flash.
Posted by burner8
On 2007-11-02 16:20:47, Igor Vidic wrote:
@burner8
Great combination, but I noticed some overexposure in daylight shots in Auto mode and underexposure in Twilight portrait mode with flash.
Thank you, The reason for the underexposure ist iso250. iso250 has more details and less noise. If it is to dark for you, use PhotoFix or PhotoDj.
The overexposure in auto-mode at daylight i see sometimes too, but i can't understand, what the reasen is?
I use the settings og 2.7 - 2.7 must also have this over-exp, or not?
Perhaps, we can find the settings, to fix it?Has somebody an ides. Perhaps i have made a litte mistake? I'm not a profi.
Posted by number1
On 2007-11-02 16:33:49, burner8 wrote:
On 2007-11-02 16:20:47, Igor Vidic wrote:
@burner8
Great combination, but I noticed some overexposure in daylight shots in Auto mode and underexposure in Twilight portrait mode with flash.
Thank you, The reason for the underexposure ist iso250. iso250 has more details and less noise. If it is to dark for you, use PhotoFix or PhotoDj.
The overexposure in auto-mode at daylight i see sometimes too, but i can't understand, what the reasen is?
I use the settings og 2.7 - 2.7 must also have this over-exp, or not?
Perhaps, we can find the settings, to fix it?Has somebody an ides. Perhaps i have made a litte mistake? I'm not a profi.
the overexposure is the k800i cheapy cmos sensor it's too sensitive too light,
Posted by burner8
@number1:
You understand in camdrivers, how do you find my combinationen with his colour settings?
which I can improve?
[ This Message was edited by: burner8 on 2007-11-02 15:41 ]
Posted by number1
On 2007-11-02 16:39:55, burner8 wrote:
@number1:
You understand in camdrivers, how do you find my combinationen with his colour settings?
which I can improve?
[ This Message was edited by: burner8 on 2007-11-02 15:41 ]
i dno since i havn't seen any pics taken with ur driver but the sharpness is just far too high to produce a nice picture
Posted by Igor Vidic
On 2007-11-02 16:33:49, burner8 wrote:Thank you, The reason for the underexposure ist iso250. iso250 has more details and less noise. If it is to dark for you, use PhotoFix or PhotoDj.
I think that it would be good idea to leave Landscape portrait with flash at iso 400, and if you want low light indoor shots with more details and less noise, you could choose Auto mode with flash.
[ This Message was edited by: Igor Vidic on 2007-11-02 15:54 ]
Posted by burner8
i've a probem with iso400 and shoot persons with it, because the pics looks like pixeld zombies. thes are unusual.
Posted by Igor Vidic
@burner8
I've just noticed that Twilight portrait mode with Red Eyes Correction has higher iso than with Auto flash, so you have a choice.
[ This Message was edited by: Igor Vidic on 2007-11-02 16:15 ]
Posted by number1
On 2007-11-02 17:04:30, burner8 wrote:
i've a probem with iso400 and shoot persons with it, because the pics looks like pixeld zombies. thes are unusual.
it's because of too much sharpness
Posted by burner8
no it is a different noise. The noise from iso400 loose details, the noise from sharpness loose no details, you can cliean it with software.
ISO400 pics lookeld like an oil-paint.!!!
Noe, i hope you understand, what i mean.
Posted by number1
try this
#SET_REG(43,28) // FLASH_CC_R = 0x28 (colour temperature of 5700 K for flash)
#SET_REG(44,6A) // FLASH_CC_B = 0x6A (colour temperature of 5700 K for flash)
Posted by Raiderski
On 2007-11-02 15:36:16, number1 wrote:
http://www.esato.com/board/vi[....].php?topic=155278&start=30look threw the first couple of pages theres quite a few test shots, comparing 2.7 to 3.3 the only real difference between the two drivers is mine is using
ok, i have 2.7 and 3.3 drivers and yes, compression settings are diffrent but real difference is somewhere else in major settings: i see bunch of different contrast and exposure values in NORM_MODE, Nightportrait, Portrait, Twilight_landscape and Landscape
Kopritis driver has lower values, your driver has higher contrast (which also affect on brightness) and in some profiles also higher exposure compensation value
conclusion:
this is the major and only reason why your pictures are a bit overexposed (brighter) which also affect on colors. compression is innocent
Posted by number1
On 2007-11-02 18:53:57, Raiderski wrote:
On 2007-11-02 15:36:16, number1 wrote:
http://www.esato.com/board/vi[....].php?topic=155278&start=30look threw the first couple of pages theres quite a few test shots, comparing 2.7 to 3.3 the only real difference between the two drivers is mine is using
ok, i have 2.7 and 3.3 drivers and yes, compression settings are diffrent but real difference is somewhere else in major settings: i see bunch of different contrast and exposure values in NORM_MODE, Nightportrait, Portrait, Twilight_landscape and Landscape
Kopritis driver has lower values, your driver has higher contrast (which also affect on brightness) and in some profiles also higher exposure compensation value
conclusion:
this is the major and only reason why your pictures are a bit overexposed (brighter) which also affect on colors. compression is innocent
your wrong, until u get a k800i and mod the camdriver urself u will see what i'm talking about and tell me i'm write , for now go back to living in the past and modding the k750i camdriver and stop calling me a lier
Posted by Raiderski
your wrong, until u get a k800i and mod the camdriver urself u will see what i'm talking about and tell me i'm write
dude, do i have to show everyone differences in code between your 2.7 and kopritis 3.3? are you blind or what? i can point you step by step where are differences in two drivers especially in contrast end exposure compensation. i even wrote: show me proves for your thesis about compression - you didn't, but i can show you proves
how can i remove overbrightness? by reducing contrast? no! by changing jpeg compression file size... you just roxx!
for now go back to living in the past and modding the k750i camdriver
pal, i finished my modding job with full success, many observations and huge knowledge about driver and camera work. i wish you the same but you don't want to learn. to be honest K800 driver is far away in modding process than K750/W800/W810. the way how you're thinking is the past... do i need the newest spade to dig the hole? i can do great photos without 3MP. probably you have never used K750 with supermode functions
stop calling me a lier
you mean "100% compression"? you have right to not understand some things, so i've pointed this to you yesterday. i'll correct you again - right sentence is "max. 100% quality"
respect different people if you want to be respected, criticism is nothing bad...
everyone... i'm sorry that you have to read this...
Posted by number1
On 2007-11-02 20:48:33, Raiderski wrote:
your wrong, until u get a k800i and mod the camdriver urself u will see what i'm talking about and tell me i'm write
dude, do i have to show everyone differences in code between your 2.7 and kopritis 3.3? are you blind or what? i can point you step by step where are differences in two drivers especially in contrast end exposure compensation. i even wrote: show me proves for your thesis about compression - you didn't, but i can show you proves
how can i remove overbrightness? by reducing contrast? no! by changing jpeg compression file size... you just roxx!
for now go back to living in the past and modding the k750i camdriver
pal, i finished my modding job with full success, many observations and huge knowledge about driver and camera work. i wish you the same but you don't want to learn. to be honest K800 driver is far away in modding process than K750/W800/W810. the way how you're thinking is the past... do i need the newest spade to dig the hole? i can do great photos without 3MP. probably you have never used K750 with supermode functions
stop calling me a lier
you mean "100% compression"? you have right to not understand some things, so i've pointed this to you yesterday. i'll correct you again - right sentence is "max. 100% quality"
respect different people if you want to be respected, criticism is nothing bad...
everyone... i'm sorry that you have to read this...
i still strongly believe the compression can control exposure and colour in some way and if u mean COM_EVENT(55,01) 01 does nothing same as 00, i know this because i mod the driver and i have the phone it's completey different from the k750i driver when u get the phone and try it for yourself your see what i mean. i have used a supermode driver i used kriomag on my old k750i i had no idea how to use cause i'm no good at photography.
i say 100% compression cause that what i put in the driver, max. 100% quality is probley more correct yes but i put 100 in MIN MAX & AVERAGE so i just say 100% compression.
[ This Message was edited by: number1 on 2007-11-02 20:11 ]
Posted by burner8
Hey guys. Please please let us work together to kreate a huge k800 which could mess with k750 mod driver
Posted by number1
On 2007-11-02 21:28:49, burner8 wrote:
Hey guys. Please please let us work together to kreate a huge k800 which could mess with k750 mod driver
i could do more if i knew the command event for the k800i's shutter speed, but i don't and it's not #COM_EVENT(04,
Posted by Raiderski
ok, discussion is useless
number1 mate... learn, discover, observe, improve your knowledge, make many and precise tests, don't be afraid of big changes (if you have to reorganize 70% of code then just do it) and first of all: have fun from this
if you want to do small step into supermode world and have possibility to observe in realtime camera reactions on parameters changes i can help
Posted by sowbran
On 2007-11-02 21:35:21, Raiderski wrote:
ok, discussion is useless
number1 mate... learn, discover, observe, improve your knowledge, make many and precise tests, don't be afraid of big changes (if you have to reorganize 70% of code then just do it) and first of all: have fun from this
if you want to do small step into supermode world and have possibility to observe in realtime camera reactions on parameters changes i can help
hi Raider i know that you're amazing and i wanna ask this
can u edit the exposure in the camdriver and the night mode thanks and greetings for all and cheers
Posted by number1
On 2007-11-02 21:35:21, Raiderski wrote:
ok, discussion is useless
number1 mate... learn, discover, observe, improve your knowledge, make many and precise tests, don't be afraid of big changes (if you have to reorganize 70% of code then just do it) and first of all: have fun from this
if you want to do small step into supermode world and have possibility to observe in realtime camera reactions on parameters changes i can help
i have kind of come to the end of my knowlodge and ran out of ideas, i do try many new things by trial & error, i would like to have a go supermode but first we need a EM mode for night, i looked at the EM u created for the K550i driver correct me if i'm wrong but most of it is just caluation, then u got COM_EVENT(04,00) which is the shutter speed, the k800i's shutter speed isn't COM_EVENT(04,00) it's something else unknow.
Posted by vladn02
I on the other hand do not understand the code of camera drivers but what I have notices is that 3.71 is not as good as 3. 6 i dont have the bandwidth to share the pics unfortunatly but imo its not good at all compared 3.6 i have went back and forth comparing them.... and at the end i went back to the stock R8A drivers because i was more then happy with that drivers compared to 3.71, 3.6 is better than stock drivers but this is all too confusing and too frusterating to keep playing with lol. please let me know when ithe 100% great driver is out, untill then i believe that 3.6 is great.
Posted by RevoWution
On 2007-11-03 01:16:24, vladn02 wrote:
I on the other hand do not understand the code of camera drivers but what I have notices is that 3.71 is not as good as 3. 6 i dont have the bandwidth to share the pics unfortunatly but imo its not good at all compared 3.6 i have went back and forth comparing them.... and at the end i went back to the stock R8A drivers because i was more then happy with that drivers compared to 3.71, 3.6 is better than stock drivers but this is all too confusing and too frusterating to keep playing with lol. please let me know when ithe 100% great driver is out, untill then i believe that 3.6 is great.
If you want the best, go with Kopritis' v2.7 camera driver, mate
It is by far the best imo! Change the sharpness from 06 to 08, and the driver is even better!
Posted by SEKseries
i could do more if i knew the command event for the k800i's shutter speed, but i don't and it's not #COM_EVENT(04,
i'm new here,but i had discover the camdriver0.dat for long time,i wonder the #SET_REG(37 do anything to exposure time or shutter speed......
hope this can help u......
Posted by SEKseries
On 2007-11-02 21:35:21, Raiderski wrote:
ok, discussion is useless
number1 mate... learn, discover, observe, improve your knowledge, make many and precise tests, don't be afraid of big changes (if you have to reorganize 70% of code then just do it) and first of all: have fun from this
if you want to do small step into supermode world and have possibility to observe in realtime camera reactions on parameters changes i can help
@Raiderski
Can u explain about your Enhanced Night MOde and Enhance Mode,how u get it work and the way to do it.I wonder we can implement this on K790/K800/K810......thank you......
Posted by genus
Hi guy all, i wan to share that the picture that from my camdriver modded by myself:
the change i done is the exposure time when flash on and the iso setting for normal and portrait mode (with sensor sence 00 to give better sharpness)
Normal mode, iso320, exposure time 1/30s ( 2.5 is 1/250s)
Twilightportrait mode, iso400, exposure time 1/30s
Portrait mode, iso250, exposure time 1/30s
Document mode, iso100, exposure time 1/25s
Document mode, iso100, exposure time 1/30s ( reduce the dark background )
[ This Message was edited by: genus on 2007-11-03 05:21 ]
Posted by deadman4168
whats the benefit of changing the exposure time