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Posted by >500
well, it SUCKS. its worse than my old p990i, and thats saying something, because that was pretty bad.

I did the full charge, next day, it died, so i put on charge again yesterday during day, full charge, its back on charge now already. And this is WITH OUT heavy usage.

is there any other higher capacity battery for it? or does any one know if Nokia have plans to replace one.

I am really considering getting a p1i now like i had originally planned to. I got the n95 only because i got a good deal and i had wanted one for a little while, just didnt want to pay the full price.

I got it 2 or so days ago, the same day i got it, i see the p1 come hmmmm, what to do... not a bad phone over all, just the battery, slide mechanism (really annoying considering the phones price) and wifi problems (keeps saying gateway error)

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Posted by QVGA
Whats your usage and how long does it last?

Posted by fatreg
Don't worry <500....

i get no more than 5 hours out on my blackberry....

Posted by >500
qvga
usage? i would barely call it usage seriously though, a few sms sent, prob 30mins of calls, max, couple mins of camera/1 minute video, 2mins testing the 3d sound thing, trying to use wifi, wifi only actually worked for about 5mins.

it dies within one day. the day i got it, charged overnight, was dead the next day at night when i used it, put on charge for about 4 hrs, dies next day again.

@reg
you know how i feel then, i dont want to have to charge it so often though...

Posted by masseur
that doesn't sound right with that usage. I get alot more life than that with more usage though recently I started getting less than a day as I'm using the Nokia 770 tablet through the N95 3G data, but even then I'm still getting 10 hours or so

anyway, P1 is coming my way soon and then the choice will be to ditch either the M600 or N95, and that will be a tough choice

Posted by sapporobaby
@Masseur,

That should be a no brainer. Bye, bye M600i.

Posted by masseur
yeah, I know. I guess I'm simply replacing the M600 with the P1, but I kinda got attached to the M600 over this last year

its will probably soon be forgotten once the P1 is up and running

@>500, I'd give a few more charge cycles and see how the battery life is then. If its still as bad as you say then get it replaced

Posted by >500
dont think i will be able to get it replaced as it wasnt through networks.

my usage stats might have been a little more than that, but it defo wasnt enough to kill my battery this quick.

i dont think the cycles will make the battery life that much better, it will change maybe a little, but not enough to keep me satisified i think.

might sell it on, and get a p1i, its battery is huge, so hopefully i dont have a problem with battery life on that. i can live with out the vga video and 5mp cam and gps, havnt used gps at all yet and barely used cam. qwerty keypad is better for wifi usage any way, i use msn a bit, so helps when typing.

Posted by MWEB
In the N95s defence, The weak battery was known about months prior to release, a spare cost's peanuts.
And arguably the battery life is directly related to a persons useage and the number of features on offer, The N95 has a LOT of battery consuming features which are tempting to make use of, with the inevitable result.

Posted by masseur
agreed, and indeed I do have a spare battery which cost me about £20

I prefer to carry USB sync/charge cables as I'm always near a PC but I still haven't found a usb charger yet, one of those thats standard USB at the PC end and splits into data and charge at the other end. I've only found them for the old style Nokia connector

Posted by utergue
you need to have 2 batteries or just sell N95 and buy P1i (hahaha)

Posted by >500
you make a good point mweb. but i dont want to have to spend extra money on a battery because the phone i have doesnt last long enough.

im willing to sacrifice a couple features from the n95 and get p1 just for battery life. its battery is huge comapred to n95.

Posted by masseur
the N95 battery (BL-5F) has the same capacity as the current M600/P990/W950 battery (BST-33), i.e. 950mAh

the P1i has an 1120mAh battery (BST-40)

Posted by >500
yeah i know mass, cheers

well i might leave it another week, then sell it perhaps and get the p1i

Posted by intelegent115
Well i kind of got used to N95 battery life. I charge it every day sometimes even twice a day..

I will try a P1 but somehow doubt that i will swap my N95 for it. Maybe the battery life will be better on P1,.. with N95 i see i can live without touchscreen and querty. Only flaw that my N95 is a bad slider

[ This Message was edited by: intelegent115 on 2007-07-22 15:49 ]

Posted by >500
benefits for me on p1, ts and qwerty. much better FOR me when web browsing, much faster.

ill see how much a nokia battery is. charging twice a day is rediculous though, i dont want to be doing that, at this stage though, it looks as though i almost have to. but, again, i dont want to have to do that.

Posted by intelegent115
For me it actually the applications availability that has edge over UIQ 3.x. I have everything i can imagine available for my N95. Back in the day my P990 lacked a lot of applications. I also find N95 a lot faster than P990, and it is quite hard to crash it

I hope that P1`s ram will do all that P990 couldnt, maybe i might get back to UIQ after all

Posted by >500
has any one noticed improved battery life after updating software?

Posted by alexlt
Well, maybe you need this:

http://justamp.blogspot.com/2[....]ity-battery-for-nokia-n95.html



Posted by intelegent115
Hahaha .. Nice one.

Posted by sapporobaby
Maybe I am missing something here. What is the big problem with charging a battery everyday? Is this something taboo, against the rules, a violation of battery etiquette? So what if you have to charge the battery everyday, or a bit less. You have the option, charge it, or don't charge it. To simply whine and complain about it is borderline childish. Nokia doesn't make batteries. They buy them just like everyone else. The N95 can last more than 24 hours without the temptation to play with the GPS all day, or to have the camera up and running all day. A little common sense is in order. Turn off all unused apps, start with Worldmate, and just use the phone as normal.

BTW, a second battery costs about 25 Euro.

Posted by QVGA
totally agree with sapp. unless you get electricity every fortnight, there is no harm in charging every night. jeez!

Posted by intelegent115
Hey don`t get me wrong, i ain`t complaining at all... I love N95 in all aspects (except slider). Battery life doesnt bother me. I think it is the case with all gadgets on power usage, ain`t it?

Posted by sapporobaby
@intelegent115,

No worries dude. It was not directed at you. Just those that go into complaint mode over something that is easily remedied.

Posted by >500
@sapporo
im assuming you didnt read my psot properly it barely last me a day, wait not barely, it doesnt last the day. I was out yesterday, went flat on me. Im not saying the n95 is a bad phone, but the battery is shocking!

I know i can get a spare battery, but then id have to get a desktop charger or soemthing to charge it. I dont want to have to keep going to my phone once one battery has charged and put the other in.

Its not a lot to do, but its a hassle. As i said, i was out yesterday, and it died. Had no where to charge it.

I dont think i should need to buy another battery for a phone which should have sufficient battery life to begin with. Yes, it was going to be hard doing so with all the features. But still, doesnt last me a day, come on! Maybe mine has a problem

I am considering the p1 now, or perhaps i will go out and buy a battery today. Those with 2 batteries, Masseur, how do you charge them? Do you charge one, then when its done, charge the other? if so, thats a hassle, doing it through the night, and not get a chance to charge the other one coz your are sleeping

cheers

Posted by mongoose3800

On 2007-07-22 20:56:57, sapporobaby wrote:
Maybe I am missing something here. What is the big problem with charging a battery everyday? Is this something taboo, against the rules, a violation of battery etiquette? So what if you have to charge the battery everyday, or a bit less. You have the option, charge it, or don't charge it. To simply whine and complain about it is borderline childish. Nokia doesn't make batteries. They buy them just like everyone else. The N95 can last more than 24 hours without the temptation to play with the GPS all day, or to have the camera up and running all day. A little common sense is in order. Turn off all unused apps, start with Worldmate, and just use the phone as normal.

BTW, a second battery costs about 25 Euro.



Sorry, but that is a really ignorant response. Not everyone sits in an office/home/car all day with ready access to power. It really defeats the purpose of having a mobile phone if it has to be charged during the day. What good is a "mobile" phone that can't last a day? What good is it in an emergency? What good is it if you get caught somewhere unexpected and can't charge your phone. If you have to charge it during the day then there is obviously a period of time you can't be on the move - a bit restrictive. Really, a phone should be able to easily last all day without charge. I may not be overlly satisfied with my K800 but at least the battery will last all day despite the heaviest use I have thrown at it.


Posted by >500
good post mongoose i agree....

Posted by mib1800
If your per-day use of wifi at 1/2hr, listen to music 1hr, calls 30mins, PIMs 1hr, some photos then you battery should last at least 30hrs. If you dont get this somehow either your battery is screwed or you have battery sucking apps running in background.

Really, a phone should be able to easily last all day without charge. I may not be overlly satisfied with my K800 but at least the battery will last all day despite the heaviest use I have thrown at it.


But your K800 dont do WIFI or GPS or 5MP or VGA@30fps. No phone can last all day surfing the web with wifi. Aren't you expecting the impossible?

[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2007-07-23 05:16 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
@>500 and Mongoose,

There is a word. Preparation. You can find it at: http://www.dictionary.com. I read about the battery life of the N95 and thought: "well, if I want this phone, I better figure out how to best (here's that word again) PREPARE for it. I bought a car chager, and an extra battey. I swap batteries. One is always charged while the other is in use. I have a Solio: http://www.solio.com, that I use in a pinch. Total cost was about $90 and ZERO, POINT, ZERO complaints.

As Mib said, find a camera that does what the N95 does and then compare battery life based on a 950mAh battery.

Without this thing going thermo-nuclear, the bottom line is clear. either you can: use the phone, and get the stuff you need, or you can sell it and get something else. You can also contact Nokia (they know, they know, they know) about the battery issue. You can take a chance on an extended battery that might damage your phone. At the end of the day you have some options. They might not be what you want, but they are there.

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Posted by JK
http://n95blog.com/hows-this-for-a-n95-battery/

Or use this!

Posted by sapporobaby

On 2007-07-23 08:38:30, 786KBR wrote:
http://n95blog.com/hows-this-for-a-n95-battery/

Or use this!



Is that thing huge or what? Probably weighs more than the phone.

Posted by Jonnyh
the features the phone has are amazing but in general as a phone it is PANTS! I dont understand why people would want to go for it just because it has a built in GPS reciever and a 5MP camera which i could probably buy for less than what the phone is worth.

To top it all off the battery last's 2 hours maybe less.

I urge you all NOT to purchase this phone.

Posted by sapporobaby

On 2007-07-23 09:32:56, Jonnyh wrote:
the features the phone has are amazing but in general as a phone it is PANTS! I dont understand why people would want to go for it just because it has a built in GPS reciever and a 5MP camera which i could probably buy for less than what the phone is worth.

To top it all off the battery last's 2 hours maybe less.

I urge you all NOT to purchase this phone.


Noted and completely ignored. Your post has got to be ranked as one of the most useless and false post to this forum to date. If you don't know, then don't embarrass yourself by posting.

I urge you to stop posting crap.

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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2007-07-23 08:53 ]

Posted by >500
@sapporo

yeah thanks, i didnt know the meaning of preperation, now i do

why do you keep defending the battery? face it, its crap! OF course we all new it wasnt going to be good from the start, but i didnt think it was going to be this bad.

How bout i give you my phone, and see how you like having a phone that dies half way through your day, and have nothing to charge it with. Then you MIGHT know what im on about. oh and for the record, i dont drive, what good is a car charger and i already commented about charging 2 batteries.

In the mean time, please, dont let me keep you from defending the n95.


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Posted by sapporobaby
>500,

Ah my friend you may have missed my non-defense of the N95 or misinterpreted my percieved defense of it. For the record, the battery life is not great. Not even very good, but for the most part it is okay. Considering what the phone can do, I would say that if you could find a comparable phone with the same features, put in the same size battery, you would not get better battery life.

The problem here is that the N95 packs a pretty powerful punch at the expense of battery life. I can get about 24 - 30 hours if I am very attentive to the way I use the phone, but on a normal day, I get about 15 hours. Soooo, I run down one battery, and charge it up full. The next day, I swap out the battery that was fresh. It can be a pain but for the most part I have two batteries that are almost always full. I keep it on charge and I plan how I will use the phone. It is the best solution? For the time being yes. Once again, I have the option to sell the phone but for what the phone does there is nothing out there on the market.

Also, the new software fixes, IMHO, about 95% of the things that were considered problematic.

Posted by whentheleveebreaks
I must be the only one with decent battery life on my N95, only charge it every other day, have had it last 3.5 days before

Posted by >500
my phone is fine, the n95 is a good phone. by battery doesnt last a day, im not sure if you are reading that part. Im usually out n about, so i cant exactly charge it twice a day.

has the battery life gotten better with updated software? anyone?

also, is this the latest firmware? i have v11.0.026

Posted by sapporobaby
@>500,

Hey dude. Get the upgrade, it might help out. Another thing, if you are using Worldmate, make sure, make sure, and oh please make sure, it is not running in the background. It just sits there and grinds away until your battery is dead.

As for portable power, you might want to look into the Solio (www.solio.com). During the day, I keep two batteries, with me.

Posted by >500
whats WorldMate? and how many MB will the software download be roughly?

Posted by sapporobaby
Try, www.mobilemate.com or www.handango.com. I can not remember the links off the top of my head. Do a search. Worldmate is now free. It is a very good application. Gives weather, currency exchange, some other stuff for free but has paid services if you need it. This app is great but will sometimes run in the background to update its data. This can be a pain. Check on the Solio thing. You will not be disappointed with this.

Posted by >500
ok, i dont have worldmate, thats for sure.

again though, is there any battery life improvements when software is updated? how many MB is the download approx?

Posted by gareb
@sapporobaby

I done got a N95 and it's one of the best phones that's been in my hand. No problem at all with the battery. Last about 4 days without heavy use of GPS and so on. Just wanna ask what is Worldmate?

Posted by sapporobaby
@>500,

To be honest, I have not bothered to monitor the battery life but I will just to see.

The upgrade download is about 113 mb. Can take quite a while if you have a slow connection. I did mine in about 8 mins. The upgrade on the phone took longer than the download (I have 24 mb DSL at home. Gift from work). The GPS will work better and the phone will feel snappier. No crashes either.

Posted by masseur
@gareb, worldmate

Posted by gareb
Sorry didn't see the former posts at all.

Posted by mib1800
>500

Are you using any 3rd party screensaver? Some screensaver eats thru battery like no tomorrow. I once use the screensaver that is bundled with HandyClock and I couldnt get 1 day with. I reverted back to default one and now I can get at least 2 days of use.



Posted by >500
i only have a different theme. I close all apps when ive fiinished with them. I dont have too mant apps either, only about 4 or so installed since i got it.
again, i havnt used too much of any thing, i have not done any HEAVY usage yet, just played around with the features.


Posted by mib1800
The other thing you have to watch out is that if you pull out charger after 15-20min the battery meter will ALWAYS show full eventhough the battery is not fully charged. So it is best to pull out only after the battery bar is not moving. Otherwise there may be somethign wrong with your battery.



Posted by >500
i usually charge my phone for a good couple hours, or a quick one if im getting ready to go out somewhere and it needs a speedy charge.

so its had healthy charges so far.

battery today hasnt lost one bar, has had same usage as past couple days, just played round with it more today. Prob less calls though, couple more sms sent. i did take it off charge at bout 12.30ish'pm though (its now 8:38pm)

im going to wait a few days, if im not happy with it, may get a p1 instead.


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Posted by sapporobaby
@gareb and .500,

Did you guys find Worldmate? I am back in the office so I can help out now if you didn't.


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