Posted by deepsme
Samsung ain't that bad either!
Samsung's shipments were up 50% year over year.
In the wake of a Motorola profit free fall the past few quarters, Samsung has finally managed to nab Moto's spot to take the number two position in global handset market share behind the perennial numero uno, Nokia. Though the victory comes by the slimmest of margins -- 37.4 million handsets shipped in Q2 compared to Moto's estimate of 35 to 36 million.Samsung has seen a 4 percent boost in revenue over the same period last year.The success of its Ultra edition and entry level handsets have been attributed as the chief reasons for their growth at performance.
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Posted by ajeetpv
bye bye MOTO
Posted by *Jojo*
On 2007-07-14 02:17:00, ajeetpv wrote:
bye bye MOTO <IMG SRC=\"/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif\">
. . . Hellooooooooooo Samson !
Posted by JuanPablo
Moto is dead. They had like 21% marketshare and now they're on 13%. Bad.
has actually 9.5%, and it'll overtake Moto by 2008 
Posted by umerhayat
Hi.i do not think samsung deserve second position.because their phones have poor reception and lack of functionality.hope sony ericsson will take second position soon
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Posted by shaliron
That's a very impressive leap by Samsung. Thing is, a lot of that was due to entry level phones - so I'd be interested to see their actual profit margins.
I remember SE last year were either equal or better than Samsung in terms of profit, despite selling less phones.
Posted by WhiteEye
imagine Samsung ranks no.2. imagine Samsung is mine. :)
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Posted by korbindallis
SE is focusing on its entry leval head sets so look out Motorola
SE needs to grab 3rd to get to 2nd place its currently at No#4 it took LG for that spot so I see it only going one way UUUUUUUP !
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Sony Ericsson
Posted by chircuandree
de mii de ori e mai bun sony ...........
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Posted by goldenface
On 2007-07-14 05:04:31, shaliron wrote:
That's a very impressive leap by Samsung. Thing is, a lot of that was due to entry level phones - so I'd be interested to see their actual profit margins.
I remember SE last year were either equal or better than Samsung in terms of profit, despite selling less phones.
Plus Samsung was getting slated last year for not providing enough low-end phones. It seems to have turned itself around ultra quickly.
I fear Moto will be in danger from being overtaken by LG if it takes as long as some are saying for the company to be turned around - 18 months.
I hate to say it but this sounds much like the way Ericsson went - years ago. They went from a healthy No2 to a third of the sales in a similar amount of time and bottomed out at around 6-7% market share.
And I bet Mr Zander receives a nice big golden handshake when he leaves, even after Motorola posted that $180 million loss earlier this year.
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Posted by EMS06
congratulations to samsung! I also feel they don't deserve the number two spot when one looks at the type of handsets they bring out. Goldenface, you're spot on! Motorola is on its way out and it starts at the end of this year. SE is the number 3 cell phone manufacturer in waiting.
Posted by JuanPablo
Sales of phones Q2 2007 vs Q2 2006:
Samsung 37,4 million, up 49%, 14,2% marketshare
Motorola 35 million, down, 13,5% marketshare
SE 25 million, up 59%, 9,6% marketshare
Q1 2007 vs Q2 2007
Samsung up 0,4%
Motorola down 4,4%
SE up 0,9%
Source: http://www.di.se/Nyheter/
Motorola has announced a further 4,000 jobs cuts on top of the other job cuts previously announced
Motorola has announced plans to shed an additional 4,000 jobs this year, as it continues efforts to reduce costs and reverse a fall in profits.
The world's second (actually, third), largest mobile phone-maker, US-based Motorola was already on target to complete 3,500 job reductions by the end of June.
It forecasts the combined job losses and other cost-cutting moves will save the firm $600m (£304m) a year.
Motorola has been losing market share to rivals amid tough price competition.
'Weak phone range'
Mobile phone analyst Lawrence Harris said Motorola was also handicapped by a weak range of phones.
"The extra job cuts will certainly help them return to profitability but it's not enough to get them to the double digit profit margins they seek," he said.
"They need exciting new products."
Back in January, Motorola announced that its fourth quarter profits fell 48% to $624m.
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6706797.stm
Motorola loses while Sony Ericsson gains
Motorola has issued a profits warning after a significant fall in handset sales during the past quarter.
The company sold fewer mobile phones in the past three months than it did in the previous quarter, and announced that its handset division is unlikely to return to profit this year, increasing the pressure on chief executive Ed Zander to quit.
Meanwhile, rival phone maker Sony Ericsson has reported significant growth in the number of phones sold in the same period.
Motorola's second-quarter sales fell to an estimated $8.7bn from $9.4bn in the first quarter, selling around 36 million handsets.
Things started to go wrong for Motorola late last year, according to telecoms analysts.
"The steepness of the fall at Motorola is scary," said Martin Garner, director of wireless intelligence at industry watcher Ovum.
"This quarter shipments are down 47 per cent on [the fourth quarter of 2006] when you would normally expect them to be up five to 10 per cent."
Garner added that a key problem is that Motorola does not have any new phones that appeal strongly to European and Asians.
"Motorola has had a rather US-centric view of what its portfolio should look like and we have seen no evidence yet of a coherent push to repair the damage, nor any sign that Motorola is currently able to differentiate in any segment (as it did with the Razr) by creating something truly new," he said.
The predicament could see Motorola dropping from its second place in the mobile market behind Nokia to fourth place as Samsung and Sony-Ericsson overtake.
That in turn could see Motorola shedding more jobs on top of the 10 per cent of the workforce cut earlier this year, Ovum predicts.
Sony-Ericsson sold just short of 25 million phones in the second quarter, 59 per cent up over the same period last year. This led to sales revenue of €3.1bn and a pre-tax profit of €327m.
This profit is 55 per cent up over the year, but shows a slight decline over the pervious quarter because the company has sold more entry-level phones, reducing the average sale price of its handsets from €145 a year ago to €125 now.
"Sony Ericsson has always said that it will not make a headlong charge into lower priced segments and put its profitability at risk," added Garner.
"It has been very careful to extend its range progressively downwards, aiming to hold onto its margins.
"But Sony Ericsson needs to be careful here because Nokia is able to match its high-end margins with its low-end phones and has more degrees of freedom in competing."
Source: http://www.pcw.co.uk/vnunet/n[....]4157/motorola-loses-while-sony
Posted by Miss UK
Thats pretty good,
Samsung have got there acts together even there CS on there Email is swift now it wasn't before I had to await 3-4days for a reply but now there answering within a day or even less
Good on them!!!!
Posted by shaliron
@miss_uk
I know what you mean about CS. It sucks when you send an email asking for support to only have to wait days wondering whether they even received it at all.
Posted by goldenface
On 2007-07-14 19:18:00, EMS06 wrote:
congratulations to samsung! I also feel they don't deserve the number two spot when one looks at the type of handsets they bring out. Goldenface, you're spot on! Motorola is on its way out and it starts at the end of this year. SE is the number 3 cell phone manufacturer in waiting.
I just seems like they aren't the global player they used to be - great in the US but getting battered abroad.
Now with other companies making inroads in the US market - Samsung is already well established, plus now there is a double pronged attack from the Europeans - Nokia and SE and now iPhone, it seems like Motorola is not even safe on its home turf. Woeful times ahead me thinks unless a miracle happens.
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Posted by shaliron
Only thing about Samsung - they're very boring.
They rely on a scattergun approach which makes all their phones seem very generic, especially their reliance on the same design for their slider phones.
SE do candybars, but they at least have some sort of personality, and they do venture into higher tech sliders and clams once in a while.
Whereas Samsung seem to get stuck on sliders and flips. When was the last series consumer candybar from Samsung?
Posted by goldenface
On 2007-07-16 10:30:44, shaliron wrote:
Only thing about Samsung - they're very boring.
They rely on a scattergun approach which makes all their phones seem very generic, especially their reliance on the same design for their slider phones.
This may be exactly what some people want.
Branded phones, multi-media phones, camera-phones, music-phones, messaging phones - it can all be a bit fussy and complicated.
I can perfectly understand why someone would want just a basic, anonymous black, ok-looking no-nonsense handset in fact I think SE should go down this road and bring out more 'boring' multi-use T series phones.
I think some people just don't want to have to spend to much time deciding which phone is best for them and the 'black slider like the one they had last time' is what they look for in a replacement.
Samsung seem to have captured a share of the market with their slim sliders - personally they bore me rigid but they seem to be onto something with the 'slim - black' format judging by their recent performance.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Copied from the other Motorola thread as the same answer applies here IMO.
Hi all,
I really wouldn't start writing Motorola off just yet they have a habit of going into decline and then turning things round. They have a lot of very exciting products coming through shortly. Besides the recently launched Q9 & Z8 they have another 5-6 UIQ3 devices and the new Motorola RAZR 2 in both the V8 2.5G and the V9 3.5G a fully loaded and up to the minute spec device.
I would say it is a safe bet the V9 is going to be a big success as it is 2mm thinner than the original RAZR is made of stainless steel and hardened glass with aluminium hinges it also has touch sensitive with tactile feedback multimedia keys on the front screen. Plus a 500mhz processor and good internal storage plus HSDPA, A2DP and all the other tech you could possibly want. So is a slimmer high power premium device and looks like it everything the RAZR was but now with more than decent specs and IMO is sure to be a big hit. If it's only half as successful as the original that will have a large effect on Moto's fortunes and i wouldn't be surprised if it is even more successful as it offers so much more than the original.
Marc
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