Posted by Superluminova
A car on fire has been driven at the main terminal building at Glasgow Airport, police have confirmed.
Eyewitnesses have described a Jeep Cherokee being driven at speed towards the building with flames coming out from underneath.
They have also described seeing two Asian men, one of whom was on fire, who had been in the car.
Strathclyde Police said two people had been arrested and detained in connection with the incident.
The airport has been evacuated and all flights suspended following the incident at 1515 BST.
From the BBC website.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm
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Posted by dicky
i was just about to post this!
crazy stuff,at least no one seems to be injured
Posted by MWEB
Apart one from of the perpatrators who managed to set himself alight, Scum like these need wiping off the face of the planet IMO.
You or your son/daughter/mother/father might have been hit by that!!
Posted by haynesycop
Oh no when will this stuff stop it's madness!
Posted by axxxr
It won't, until our government stops kissing george bush's feet and pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan and does something about Palestine.
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-30 19:37:49, axxxr wrote:
It won't, until our government stops kissing george bush's feet and pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan and does something about Palestine.
Posted by axxxr
Yeh what a person to bring peace to the middle east, thats like asking Adolf Hitler to attend a Bar Mitzvah.
Posted by MWEB
The two are related, but hardly negate's suffering on either side, Your views on this are well known (legendary in fact) but i condemn terrorism WHEREVER it occurs especially in my own land!!
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-30 19:45:54, mweb6161 wrote:
The two are related, but hardly negate's suffering on either side, Your views on this are well known (legendary in fact) but i condemn terrorism WHEREVER it occurs especially in my own land!!
Posted by axxxr
On 2007-06-30 19:45:54, mweb6161 wrote:
The two are related, but hardly negate's suffering on either side, Your views on this are well known (legendary in fact) but i condemn terrorism WHEREVER it occurs especially in my own land!!
Of course we all condemn terrorism, but if we are going to inflict suffering on others then its hardly suprising to expect repercussions.
Posted by MWEB
On 2007-06-30 19:51:52, axxxr wrote:
On 2007-06-30 19:45:54, mweb6161 wrote:
The two are related, but hardly negate's suffering on either side, Your views on this are well known (legendary in fact) but i condemn terrorism WHEREVER it occurs especially in my own land!!
Of course we all condemn terrorism, but if we are going to inflict suffering on others then its hardly suprising to expect repercussions.
That logic is understandable, but should never be used as an excuse, there is no such thing as a righteous terrorist IMO.
Posted by oneofthose
On 2007-06-30 19:45:54, mweb6161 wrote:
The two are related, but hardly negate's suffering on either side, Your views on this are well known (legendary in fact) but i condemn terrorism WHEREVER it occurs especially in my own land!!
axxxr's views are indeed legendary, but unriddle please:
earlier you took the biblical "eye for'n eye" approach to foreign relations - "wipe the scum of the planet"...
where's the difference? (and I'm not saying there is no difference...just wanna check what exactlly you mean?)
BTW - any clue as to the connection to yesterday's events in London?
Posted by axxxr
On 2007-06-30 20:05:12, mweb6161 wrote:
That logic is understandable, but should never be used as an excuse, there is no such thing as a righteous terrorist IMO.
I don't think they are looking for an excuse, but what goes around comes around.
Posted by oneofthose
On 2007-06-30 20:05:12, mweb6161 wrote:
On 2007-06-30 19:51:52, axxxr wrote:
On 2007-06-30 19:45:54, mweb6161 wrote:
That logic is understandable, but should never be used as an excuse, there is no such thing as a righteous terrorist IMO.
Posted by MWEB
Well i hope for your sake axxxr that "what goes around" never occurs to anyone you love or care for, ONEOFTHOSE, perhaps i should have said something a little less gut instinct and something a bit more pragmatic i agree.
Posted by axxxr
On 2007-06-30 20:15:58, mweb6161 wrote:
Well i hope for your sake axxxr that \"what goes around\" never occurs to anyone you love or care for, ONEOFTHOSE, perhaps i should have said something a little less gut instinct and something a bit more pragmatic i agree.
Thats exactly what im trying to say to you, if our military is going to go into iraq and kill innocent men women and children, then please would you care to explain to me what they have ever done to us??...we are in there homes not the other way around....its a bit difficult to swallow when all if comes back onto our own doorsteps.
Posted by MWEB
It's so simple, "Two wrongs dont make a right".
Posted by axxxr
On 2007-06-30 20:23:00, mweb6161 wrote:
It's so simple, \"Two wrongs dont make a right\".
Two wrongs don't make a right, but it works both ways.
Posted by lastikcizme
What if they are trying to prepare the public for another invasion, Iran maybe? So they can say "Look, these middle easterns are bad guys, let's bring'em some more democracy!".
I hope those who support terrorism pay for what they did. Be it those pagan idiots pretending to be muslims, or emperialist powers setting up conspiracies.
Posted by MWEB
On 2007-06-30 20:33:48, axxxr wrote:
On 2007-06-30 20:23:00, mweb6161 wrote:
It's so simple, "Two wrongs dont make a right".
Two wrongs don't make a right, but it works both ways.
Indeed, innocent persons of all creeds/colours/religions should be allowed to live free from terrorism wherever they might live, but call me a jingoistic old fool if you wish, but MY main concern is MY family and MY countrymen.
That might be little old school for some on here, but i'm of a different generation to most of you on here so perhaps you might make allowances in that regard.
Posted by QVGA
What a coincidence it was a Asian guy.
Posted by maggflodd
It would seem oneofthose made a valid point when he alluded to the wobbly use of the term "terror-/ist/ism"(btw: until 9/11 and the "war on terror" bbc and most othere "reputable" news-factories did not use the word terrorist!!! Because, in a "nut"-shell: one people's terrorist is another people's "freedomfighter" and it's all very shady!)...anyhow: CBS call glasgow a "terrorattempt"...
http://www.cbsnews.com/storie[....]821.shtml?source=mostpop_story
so...ehem...what now?
Interestingly, a number of sources reported over the last 2 weeks that "radicalised British Muslims" might adopt "iraqi insurgents' tactics" of using cars as "bombs"!!!
1 article and links to more mainstream media here:
http://www.propagandamatrix.c[....]une2007/300607stagedterror.htm
Was it just a very "smart" attack - using "weapons" beyond the government's control (cars and petrol) or, as an earlier poster mused: is it another "heathrow airport/anthrax" mystery-attack at just "the right moment"? i don't know, but I'm certainly p*ssed of about living in a world where you have to wonder
wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf
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Posted by QVGA
i am pissed living in a world where people point fingers at muslims everytime something bad happens.
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Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-30 22:23:24, QVGA wrote:
i am pissed living in a world where people point fingers at muslims everything sometime bad happens.
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95+ percent of all crimes here are committed by catholics! And I'm more afraid of the cops who will now get permission to stop any car to sniff if you use iranian petrol than of any muslim I ever met!
Posted by PeterKay
Every time an incident occurs it's always the Muslims who get blamed/accused nowadays, makes me feel so bad and hurt especially as the religion in no way teaches such acts!! The media make it out as if the religion teaches such vile actions but it honestly doesn't, its a very easy peaceful religion.....
Just look at the my signature if you wish to see what the religion really teaches.
Peace to all.
Posted by Superluminova
Erm nobody has mention muslims, they said men of asian apperance!
I think some people on this board are parnoid. Or has everyone from the "ASIAN" continent just converted to Islam?
Oh and the reason they blame muslims is because:
Attack on New York: Radicalised Muslims
Attack on Madrid: Radicalised Muslims
Attack on London: Radicalised Muslims
Do you see the pattern?
Now I'm not for one minute saying these nutters are representative of the muslim faith. They are as far from it as you can get.
Posted by PeterKay
Thats what we're saying super, the guys who do it aren't real muslims as its not the teaching of the faith itself..........
Posted by QVGA
Attack on Newyork - Muslims : NOT PROVEN. For all we know it could have been the American govt itself, but then again thats not proven as well, it could have been a Russian?
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-07-01 00:08:51, Superluminova wrote:
Erm nobody has mention muslims, they said men of asian apperance!
I think some people on this board are parnoid. Or has everyone from the "ASIAN" continent just converted to Islam?
Oh and the reason they blame muslims is because:
Attack on New York: Radicalised Muslims
Attack on Madrid: Radicalised Muslims
Attack on London: Radicalised Muslims
Do you see the pattern?
Now I'm not for one minute saying these nutters are representative of the muslim faith. They are as far from it as you can get.
Attack on london - muslim handled by mi5/6 involved...
Madrid...you guessed it...
In the 70's and 80's it was the cold war...so communists/lefties were the baddies: brigada rossa in italy? Cia handled ("gladio" - google it!)...
Etcetc
no, they didn't say "muslims" yesterday... But that's the point, isn't it?! Asian/mideastern...all "muslim fanatics" thanks to the lies of politicians, feeding-frenzy of the media... They know they don't have to say "muslim" - any "keyword" will do (asian?)...
Or "al qaeda links" - in the 70's it was "moscow financed/linked"...
Lies lies lies - used as control mechanism!
Posted by shaliron
@mweb6161
That logic is understandable, but should never be used as an excuse, there is no such thing as a righteous terrorist IMO.
I'm all with you there.
On 2007-06-30 22:52:59, PeterKay wrote:
Every time an incident occurs it's always the Muslims who get blamed/accused nowadays, makes me feel so bad and hurt especially as the religion in no way teaches such acts!! The media make it out as if the religion teaches such vile actions but it honestly doesn't, its a very easy peaceful religion.....
I understand what you mean completely, but a lot has to do with the way your religious leaders deal with the issues. They are the ones in the public eye, so they are half the reason for the bad public image.
For example, 9/11, it took far too long before the leaders of the Muslim community to condemn the acts committed, which led the public to believe that they somewhat supported the acts.
Or, specifically in Australia, when the top Sheik said some horrible things about women and Australians in general. Other Muslim leaders failed to 'condemn' what he said, and it took far too long before he forced to resign. Add lack of general condemnation from the Muslim community, and you get a bad public image.
But anyway, I'm wishing all of you in the UK the best of luck, and I hope you get through this period with no serious incidents or casualties. It's horrible what's happened.
Posted by axxxr
On 2007-07-01 11:37:31, shaliron wrote:
For example, 9/11, it took far too long before the leaders of the Muslim community to condemn the acts committed, which led the public to believe that they somewhat supported the acts.
Thats because muslims knew that it wasn't them that were responsible, its pretty clear now that 9/11 was an inside job created by the American Government...why should muslims have to condemn something they had no part in anyway?
If you examine the evidence you will find the there is no bigger Terrorist than the U.S and it was them that created Osama bin laden, as i've said before don't blame frankenstein's monster blame Dr frankenstein!
Posted by oneofthose
On 2007-07-01 11:37:31, shaliron wrote:
@mweb6161
That logic is understandable, but should never be used as an excuse, there is no such thing as a righteous terrorist IMO.
I'm all with you there.
On 2007-06-30 22:52:59, PeterKay wrote:
Every time an incident occurs it's always the Muslims who get blamed/accused nowadays, makes me feel so bad and hurt especially as the religion in no way teaches such acts!! The media make it out as if the religion teaches such vile actions but it honestly doesn't, its a very easy peaceful religion.....
I understand what you mean completely, but a lot has to do with the way your religious leaders deal with the issues. They are the ones in the public eye, so they are half the reason for the bad public image.
For example, 9/11, it took far too long before the leaders of the Muslim community to condemn the acts committed, which led the public to believe that they somewhat supported the acts.
Or, specifically in Australia, when the top Sheik said some horrible things about women and Australians in general. Other Muslim leaders failed to 'condemn' what he said, and it took far too long before he forced to resign. Add lack of general condemnation from the Muslim community, and you get a bad public image.
But anyway, I'm wishing all of you in the UK the best of luck, and I hope you get through this period with no serious incidents or casualties. It's horrible what's happened.
nonsense - and your contributions in other threads suggest that you're are much too smart to fall for this bs of "blame the muslims who don't blame the muslims"!!!!!!!
among other things that criticism is just a way of ignoring any valid contributions from muslims re. a proper holistic debate and analysis! you just say, "ah, you muslim...until you confess we don't listen to you"...it's guantanamo lite, dreamt up by the spinners of this world!
it's like early christians thrown before the llions in the circus, and the only way to stop the carnage was to deny jesus...
and explain the difference between abu hamza and ian paisly/david trimble... between abu hamza and US-tvangelists calling for the assassination of hugo chavez?
oh gosh, I could go on, but why should I, not knowing if you give a hoot?
Posted by fatreg
if you aren't responsible for something you protest your innocence until you are blue in the face.
I'm not 100% on any of the 3 "attacks" that happened this week, there is not enough evidence for me to give an opinionated view.
Posted by axxxr
Just think about it for a second guys, Isn't it a little convenient that 3 terrorist attacks take place within 2 days of a new Prime minister coming in....i smell a rat!
Posted by MWEB
On 2007-06-30 22:52:59, PeterKay wrote:
Every time an incident occurs it's always the Muslims who get blamed/accused nowadays, makes me feel so bad and hurt especially as the religion in no way teaches such acts!! The media make it out as if the religion teaches such vile actions but it honestly doesn't, its a very easy peaceful religion.....
Just look at the my signature if you wish to see what the religion really teaches.
Peace to all.
Peter kay is quite correct, The vast majority of UK muslims are wonderful, friendly, decent people who have no truck with terrorism, by the same token, the vast majority of the UK and US populace had bugger all to do with the war in Iraq etc, so in NO way are legitamate targets for deranged and warped fundamentalists who perhaps might be better aiming their venom on the politicians whose decision it was, NOT EVERY man, woman and child in the western world!!
Posted by oneofthose
On 2007-07-01 13:35:30, fatreg wrote:
if you aren't responsible for something you protest your innocence until you are blue in the face.
I'm not 100% on any of the 3 "attacks" that happened this week, there is not enough evidence for me to give an opinionated view.
well said! bloody right!
thanks!
though I could go on and on
full of opinio-nation
Posted by axxxr
On 2007-07-01 13:43:19, mweb6161 wrote:
Peter kay is quite correct, The vast majority of UK muslims are wonderful, friendly, decent people who have no truck with terrorism, by the same token, the vast majority of the UK and US populace had bugger all to do with the war in Iraq etc, so in NO way are legitamate targets for deranged and warped fundamentalists who perhaps might be better aiming their venom on the politicians whose decision it was, NOT EVERY man, woman and child in the western world!!
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