Posted by nikke
After using the bluespoon for 2 months I have come to the conclusion that the technology is too unreliable. You cannot trust the pairing, that both products feels that they are paired and thus risking hang-ups. The sound quality of the Bluespoon is too bad compared to ordinary headsets. I hear quite well but the ones I talk to tend to be happy when I switch the call to the handset. Indoor usage is often good enough but paying $ 300 for something this limited won't be a success in the near future. I love the form and the idea but I find my bluespoon more often shut down in my pocket then paired with my phone.
The future is promising though
Johan
Posted by amagab
Johan> sorry to hear about your bad experiences with bluetooth. However, I am of a different opinion. I have had very good experiences with bluetooth. First I had a T28 with bluetooth dongle using a HBH-15 headset. Worked super good! Then I bought T68 and have used that phone with the HBH-15 and now with the Bluespoon. No problem pairing nor hearing and the people I talk to say the quality of sound is just as good. Maybe you have got your hands on a faulty product. And as you said yourself bluetooth will just get better and better.
Posted by LkL
I returned my bluespoon headset yesterday, it was worthless. The sound for me that was using it was great if i was inside in a quitet environment. But if i was outside i´ll could not hear a shit! And the people i was talking to with the bluespoon allways complaint about the sound so i was forced to scream all the time so them could here me!;(
My conclusion is that the microphone is to far away from the mouth and i think that is a logical conclusion...
Posted by mobility
LkL> Not to be rude but I hope yours was an exception. I am planning to buy one of those black Panthers that are coming out soon. Maybe yours was a defect. I hope the one I buy will be better than what you describe. Good luck!
Posted by floatlite
I use the bluespoon headset with my t68i and so far have foundit great. The build quality of the bluespoon is a little disappointing for £200 but the function is great. I just fitted the se bluetooth car kit, one word AWESOME!
Posted by amagab
mobility> if you want to buy one Panther I have two for sale on eBay.
Posted by amagab
So I have now used the Panther constantly for a few days and have to say that is works so good with the T68. When I used the HBH-15 I was having problems all the time. The Panther is so on it with the T68 - it's like their minds are connected.
Thanks again Jan and Nextlink!
Posted by nikke
It's not bluespoons fault that bluetooth is more of a gadget technology than a trustworthy technology. I thought bluetooth would enable me to forget exactly in what pocket or where in the bag I have the phone as long as I have the headset. Well, it doesn't work very often. The phone looses it's connection or something else goes wrong. If you read the posts in this forum you'll find that many people have problems. Sometimes they are solved with software upgrades, sometimes you have to buy a phone-model to match your headset (!). The broad mass of users won't buy, nor use bluetooth, as long as this is the case. We gadgetfreaks may do it but not the average user, even if bluetooth headsets will go well under $ 100. It seems that bluetooth is more a proprietary technology for SonyErcisson than a general one.
Lets hope I'm wrong
Johan
Posted by Cophia
Bluetooth is not propriatory although some manufacturers may not embrace the whole standard (such as Microsoft with Java or Nokia and Bluetooth on their 7650).
Sometimes there are quality control issues, I haven't had any problem with my headset, I don't leave my phone behind as I walk away though. Bluetooth on the phone has a MAXIMUM range of about 10 metres in good conditions so I never try to be more than 5 metres away (usually carrying my phone in a small "BodyGlove" holster).
Voice quality is no worse than a wired handsfree, people have not noticed any difference and I am using the earliest release of firmware on a T68i.
One advantage of the BlueSpoon is that it has been tested against a T68i so there is some high degree of compatibility with this phone, although it does work well with other models too.
Posted by geoffreyw
I think the problem with bluetooth in general is the comsumers expectations. I remember several years ago when the bluetooth standard was just beginning to be widely discussed, it was going to change the world. We were told how you could leave your phone in you briefcase or backpack or whatever and still make and receive phone calls etc. Basically we were sold the freedom from wires but not really told about the limitations. I think one day we will get there, but not this year. But you are right most people are not going to pay $100 for a headset that requires that much work. Personally, I use the Jabra Freespeak and from what I have heard it blows the BS away as far as total value goes. If BS cut its price in half (atleast) and maybe sacraficed some of its battery life for a stronger signal, you would have a stronger contender
Posted by discub
Hopefully, the situation had improved since... I'm using a HBH-35 with my T68i and i feel it work very good (not perfectly).
The T68i has BT in automatic mode to save the battery life, and i can answer the phone with HBH when in range (it rings!) and if i phone with the T68i it wil connect directly to the headset.
The only con is: to use the vocal command system the BT must be ON, and that will suck your battery life as hell!!!
I can also use the HBH with my PC as microphone and headset works great!!
Please share your experience and idea to generalise the use of this great tool: Bluetooth!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by nikwood28
um... can sum1 fill me in - i have a k700i and i use bluetooth all the time (big loss on battery time but never mind) especially when im out clubbing and i like to msg random people within my vicinity and then try and guess who im talking to. i also have a bluetooth dongle at home which i use to transfer pictures, mp3s, midis etc to and from my phone. this i get
but wtf is bluespoon?!?
Posted by mwright
Bluespoon is a make of bluetooth headset!
Posted by floke
Bluespoon is made by Nextlink in Denmark
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Have you got the latest Firmware for your t68i?
I have the t68i + bluespoon digital combo and I keep BT on always. I recharge every four - five days. Great! BTW latest FW is R8A015
Posted by teslaguy
i'd say! Is it that much need that you have to pay £200 for a headset? I use the K700 wired handsfree which is great when i need to use one. Else I just put my hand in the pocket, pick out the phone and press "Answer". So much difficult eh?
Posted by discub
first of all, in 2004 the price dropped sharply, to less than 100Euros, so it become much more affodable for anybody.
I use mine wihle driving and compared with the wire headset, I feel much more free and safe, my two hands are really free and i can concentrate on driving +here in europe most of the cars are not automatic, and you relly need your two hands to drive.
Conclusion: Security = Bluetooth
Posted by alpal
I've tried quite a few BT headset models with P800 and found that they are quite unstable and reduces voice audibility, so I went back to the hands free originally supplied in the package. The only thing is I hate it when the wires get all entangled. Oh well I guess you cant have everything...me sticking to my hands free for the time being until a really good stable BT headset compatible with the P800 is on the market.
Btw Discub, with the auto answer function on the P800, you can still maintain both hands on the wheel. If you want to be more selective with who you answer, you use ACM software (highly recommended) or use "Play caller name" + "voice tag" + "voice answer" functions
Posted by discub
As i have a modest (but so apprecied!) T68i, I have no idea of the use of a P800. I had no original headset, so i bought a (crappy & overpriced) one unlabelled, then people started complaining about the sound quality and myself had to close my car windows to hear them, so i decided to change my headset, and as the BT ones wheres only 3 times the price of the crapy one, that decided me to get a HBH-35.
I am enchanted with the soud quality in both way and the comfort of use. The only con had happend 2times in 6month: loss off BT connection just at the time i wanted to answer , but never during call.
@alpal: I never had compatibility problem between my t68i and my HBH-35 nor with my MSI dongle. so dont worry, and go ahead!
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Posted by Cophia
Sorry to hear about yur problems. I have used Bluespoon and Bluespoon Digital with a T68i and have not had any problems.
The sound quality coming in is always clear although you have to turn the volume up (you can press the up volume quite a few times before you get to the beep indicating maximum volume).
Sound quality on the mic is on a par with most handsfrees when in a noisy environment although the Digital version is pretty good at cutting out constant background noise in bars etc. it does sound a little like you're in an empty room but that's just the noise reduction.
Only drawback with T68i Bluetooth connection is that the phone needs to be in a blockage-free location to the Bluespoon. If I carry the phone on my left side, my body seems to interfere with the Bluetooth signal (as the Bluespon is in my right ear), however in clear line of sight the signal is good for 6 or 7 metres. This doesn't happen with the Sharp GX-30 but has with 2 different T68i phones, maybe it's the way Sony Ericsson designed it for battery conservation.