Posted by Samlala
Hi all,
After tornado like mighty announcement from SE, i feel slight depressed, i just bought a N95 before a week i was very impressed by the given specs but now i feel so dumb, the camera is not great like my k800, the battery problem and the plastic feel and the loose slider.
Guys need yr help what should i do?
Posted by miguel82
Use your N95 for the nexts 3 months and then sale it to buy a k850 or a w960
Posted by strizlow800
Sale your N95 intul the time's up. Because IMO after the new SE phones start to sale, the N95 would be much harder to sale and at lower price too.
Posted by shanespencer
So the camera, slider, plastic feel and battery weren't any kind of issue before the announcement? Why didn't you take the phone back when you got it, if you weren't happy with it?
Posted by razec
i'm sure some N95 user might contradict your opinion, but though patience makes most of a good things. you may wait for Nokia's future announcements i.e. N82, N81 or wait for the new
phones to be released which was already mind-blowing already 
but if you ask me, i'll wait for SE, their new phones looks very promising
Posted by maggflodd
Enough n95 vs SE already. so I lock this now!
Sh*t, I can't
Posted by Samlala
On 2007-06-16 14:27:54, shanespencer wrote:
So the camera, slider, plastic feel and battery weren't any kind of issue before the announcement? Why didn't you take the phone back when you got it, if you weren't happy with it?
Posted by shanespencer
So there's no period of time in which you can return it if not satisifed, say, 7 days? That sucks. Sorry to hear you're not happy.
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Posted by Ranjith
nah there is nothing like tht...on contract you get low-end phones only!
R
Posted by QVGA
On 2007-06-16 16:02:02, shanespencer wrote:
So there's no period of time in which you can return it if not satisifed, say, 7 days?
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yeah, we wish!
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-16 19:48:00, QVGA wrote:
On 2007-06-16 16:02:02, shanespencer wrote:
So there's no period of time in which you can return it if not satisifed, say, 7 days?
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yeah, we wish!
)...
Posted by kinson
@shanespencer:
I wish we had such a 7 day return thing in Malaysia
The moment you fork out your hard earned dough, thats it
Consumers don't have such rights in Asian countries
Posted by QVGA
yes but then during that time isnt it compulsory for you to use only that operator's sim?
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-16 20:11:18, QVGA wrote:
yes but then during that time isnt it compulsory for you to use only that operator's sim?
Yes, but apart from vodafone no one here in ireland has any proper phones anyway - sad but true...
Posted by ajeetpv
what was your N95's cost price, shamlala?
Posted by intelegent115
Too be honest i think SE`s new announcement has nothing to compete against N95. Sure i will miss TS and querty on N95 but i will still get one!
I am aware of possible battery and slider problems, but still i want to try N95. I had a chance to try it for a few minutes and i liked it a lot. If i stop liking it or slider becomes to loose or anything i will swap it for a P1 when it becomes available.
I love SE but i am jumping to the darkside till P1 shows up
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Posted by *Jojo*
@sam - Even there are NEW announcements of fone models from
. . . I guess the Nokia N95 will still be a competetive one at present . . . can go head-on with the K850 !
Posted by mib1800
On 2007-06-16 13:39:24, Samlala wrote:
Hi all,
After tornado like mighty announcement from SE, i feel slight depressed, i just bought a N95 before a week i was very impressed by the given specs but now i feel so dumb, the camera is not great like my k800, the battery problem and the plastic feel and the loose slider.
Guys need yr help what should i do?
why are you letting minor niggles like slide wobble (which can be diy rectified easily) distract you from the true N95. It is probably the most advanced phone in the world packing so many features (like wifi/gps/tv-out/vga 30fps video rec etc) in size smaller than K800. Just the vga 30fps video rec already is worth it.
btw: N95 camera is much better than K800. This review proved it with detail side-by-side comparison.
http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]son-Q2-2007-review-r_1751.html
Posted by Residentevil
Should have stayed with
Posted by shaliron
@mib1800
That review was laughable. I've seen it. Just take a peek at the comments section.
The only reason why the N95 won was because it was 5MP. Despite the heavy noise reduction negating the effect of any extra megapixels.
Read:
1) N95: The impact of the noise reduction system is felt, since almost everything is blurred, but the correct exposition and the realistic colors make the pictures look better than those of the competition.
2) К800: The situation with К800 is the same as N95. The reduced resolution is a shortcoming, depriving the phone of the gold medal.
The whole 'advantage' of resolution is to increase image detail, despite the fact that the K800 had more detail than the N95.
Or here:
1) N95: N95 is capable of reproducing neutral colors situations best, but, unfortunately, they are all deliberately oversaturated. The brightly-lit objects burn easily, unlike D900. The 5 megapixels provide quite a lot of detail, but some pictures are blurred due to the noise reduction system.
2) K800: Wildly fighting for the first place, but the limitation of the 2 megapixels impacts the pictures negatively. It performs best as far as colors and exposition are concerned.
So I guess it's impossible for the K800 to win because it's a lower resolution? At least in this image, the K800 is saturated properly and you can still see some letting on the small metal sign in the background.
Posted by Samlala
I got it for 34k now its 28k and i cant get more than 20k if i got to sell.
Posted by mib1800
shaliron:
Of course more megapixels win. Like the review said, the color reproduction is the same for K800/N95. So camera capability of N95/k800 is about equal in color reproduction and noise control. And N95 won because of more pixels. So conclusion is N95 is the better camera compared to K800. (it is unfair to K800 because it lost due to lower pixels but that's the way it is. If this does not go down well with SE fans, then just wait and see whether k850 can redeem the pride for SE)
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Posted by skylineR35
if K800 can do a good job in 3.2mp arena then K850 should do in its 5mp arena too... only a word : wait
Posted by Tehy03
Don't feel depressed! There's always coming out something new and better
Posted by dr_thug
On 2007-06-16 20:01:14, maggflodd wrote:
... That's baaaaaad! Even here it's 2 weeks - I'm constantly "buying" new phones, and return them after 13 days (14 days return for cash; no questions asked
)...
maggflodd,what happens to the phone after 2 weeks??do u get all ur money back??and is the phone sold again to someone else as a new (refurbished)handset or as a 2nd hand handset??
isn't it possible that the phone u bought might have been in the hands of someone else for 2 weeks??
Posted by Bambino
@shaliron
SuperB explaination! I give you 2 thumb
Posted by shaliron
On 2007-06-17 07:01:25, mib1800 wrote:
shaliron:
Of course more megapixels win. Like the review said, the color reproduction is the same for K800/N95. So camera capability of N95/k800 is about equal in color reproduction and noise control. And N95 won because of more pixels. So conclusion is N95 is the better camera compared to K800. (it is unfair to K800 because it lost due to lower pixels but that's the way it is. If this does not go down well with SE fans, then just wait and see whether k850 can redeem the pride for SE)
I think you're missing my point. My point is that the K800 shows up more detail, which can be seen in the detail of the pillars in the first picture and the lettering in the metal sign of the second photo.
Also note the over-saturation of the second photo by the N95, which has mad the reds very flat.
The K800 is the better camera.
Posted by KingBooker5
Samala, dont forget you currently have the best phone on the market. If you really want a k850, sell your n95 now, buy a cheap motorola c6 for the momment then buy the k850 with the £450 you have, - the 30 of the c6. You have £420 to spend on the new SE!
Posted by shanespencer
On 2007-06-17 13:31:02, shaliron wrote:
The K800 is the better camera.
This has been done to death. I don't think anyone cares anymore.
Posted by QVGA
WTH is wrong with N93 in that review?
Posted by KingBooker5
On 2007-06-17 14:07:52, shanespencer wrote:
On 2007-06-17 13:31:02, shaliron wrote:
The K800 is the better camera.
This has been done to death. I don't think anyone cares anymore.
Who cares about the camera. The n95 is still the better phone. Why does every one compare the camera?
Posted by Mr Miyagi
How can a 3.2 mega pixel camera be better than a 5mega pixel camera?
On 2007-06-16 13:39:24, Samlala wrote:
Hi all,
After tornado like mighty announcement from SE, i feel slight depressed, i just bought a N95 before a week i was very impressed by the given specs but now i feel so dumb, the camera is not great like my k800, the battery problem and the plastic feel and the loose slider.
Guys need yr help what should i do?
Posted by rambo47
I think that once you get to the 3MP range, optics and camera driver are far more important than another couple of MP.
Posted by w550
of course they do!!! i mean why then buy the n95??? Bad camera, bad battery, bad GPS, fat and ugly design, bad radio without RDS, bad musicplayer, the one thing that is positive is wifi and nothing else!!!
Posted by KingBooker5
On 2007-06-17 19:04:16, w550 wrote:
of course they do!!! i mean why then buy the n95??? Bad camera, bad battery, bad GPS, fat and ugly design, bad radio without RDS, bad musicplayer, the one thing that is positive is wifi and nothing else!!!
Yet another fanboy post. Design is your opinion. Music player is phonomanal, better then any walkman then any other phone and have you forgot all the features the n95 has which the other phones dont? n95 is the fist of its kind ofcourse it will have flaws.
You make statments with out backing them up, and are nonsence. Its fanboys like you who ruin esato.
Posted by Dextrr
@ the original poster - I think you are over reacting. The N95 is the "KING" of phones and still will be when the K850 or anything else is from any manufacturer is released. enjoy your N95 because I don't see any other phone competing with it within the next couple of years.
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Posted by tonyitalian
I LOVE THIS THREAD! hee heee
Posted by shanespencer
On 2007-06-17 19:04:16, w550 wrote:
of course they do!!! i mean why then buy the n95??? Bad camera, bad battery, bad GPS, fat and ugly design, bad radio without RDS, bad musicplayer, the one thing that is positive is wifi and nothing else!!!
Please go back under your bridge. That, or provide something constructive to this thread.
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Posted by Falcon786
Hey n95 has it.s flaws but there isn't a single phone from
even ANNOUNCED yet that has as many features to match it...the w960 comes close but doesn't have gps or five meg cam etc...dont fool yourself the n95 is small for it's features smaller than n70 and only slighty wider than w800 and same height and thickness almost!stop jumping like the n95 is outdated.it's not gonna be for at least a long while!
Posted by RoKeC
On 2007-06-19 19:59:27, Falcon786 wrote:
Hey n95 has it.s flaws but there isn't a single phone from
even ANNOUNCED yet that has as many features to match it...the w960 comes close but doesn't have gps or five meg cam etc...dont fool yourself the n95 is small for it's features smaller than n70 and only slighty wider than w800 and same height and thickness almost!stop jumping like the n95 is outdated.it's not gonna be for at least a long while!
W960i has 8GB of memory, N95 just 160MB.
you can upgrade your memory to only 2GB.
i have 1GB on my W850i and i have 50MB free.
i wanna let something for the pictures.
i know i can buy a 4GB memory card but i think it's better that you have like W960i 8GB, beacuse there isn't a phone which supports 8GB memory cards.
W850i is the only phone which supports more than 2GB memory cards.
i don't know if W880 too can have 4GB memory cards, but these 2 phones are then the only phones which supports memory cards which has more memory than 2GB.
Posted by QVGA
W960 has 8GB of storage because its a music phone, N95 is not a music phone.
Posted by JC08
Geez people, its all down 2 personal taste ane experience, either u like something or u dont...no need 2 push ur opinion on some-one else coz u want 2 be right...every phone is aimed at different target groups that is mentioned in this thread so there aint a need 2 compare them
Posted by intelegent115
@rokec: as far as i know N95 does support 4gb, and will support even more when it comes, no doubt about it. So how could i have a 4gb on my P990 if only W850 and W880 support more than 2gb?
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Right i am really getting very fed up of these continued posts comparing product a with b especially when most that are commenting have used only one or neither of them and are just happy to spout what they would like to believe for no other reason than it's not from SE it's not big it's not clever and it just makes you look silly.
According to most people here the N93 was rubbish when in reality it may not of been perfect but was pretty dam close bar low level light pictures and you know what i don't skulk around in the dark so it's really no big deal.
If i believed half the things that some of you are happy to spout about the N95 i wouldn't of bought one of these either, well sorry to disappoint you but it really is an excellent device. The slider is perfect no wobble what so ever and the same goes for the screen to and the casing no gaps or creaks and it most defiantly does not feel cheap and nasty ask Masseur as i am pretty sure he will agree.
It is a Multimedia smart phone and there is no way i would try and use this as my main business smart phone but only because of the Keypad IMO is not ideal for large amounts of data entry. I have had no out of memory errors crashes or freezes but then i know my way around S60 3rd Edition and the limitations of Symbian 9.1 and by using Handy Taskman experience no problems you may not like it but it is the truth.
To those of you that think the Music Player is rubbish you really haven't got a clue it is so much better than any Walkman player it's just funny. It does not suffer from low volume issues and with properly encoded Music the results are stunning using my Shure Ec2g headphones that just plug straight in and allow you to answer and make calls using the headphones for listening and the phones mike for speaking so no unplugging needed. To add album art all you need to is find the Album art and then add to your picture gallery, then open up the Music player select the Album you want find the cover and click that is how simple it is and should be IMO. If you don't believe me ask Jah about the music players quality even useing the Nokia BH-500 bluetooth adapter he rates it as being better especially volume wise. He has owned a W950 before the N95 and he is a well respected Forum member with many SE top of the range devices and provides a completely unbiased opinion.
Video and Film playback again is stunning in landscape mode and all it takes to get into the mode is slide the Multimedia keys out again nice simple quick and efficient and due to the great processor and graphics chip produce excellent results on the vivid and bright screen. The same goes for Web browsing on it in Landscape also. As far as i am concerned the N95 is my N93 in a smaller package minus the 3x Optical zoom and there really is only one word to describe it is stunning.
I haven't tried the GPS yet and doubt i will as i prefer to use Tom Tom 6 and a stand alone GPS receiver as quite simply it is much better IMO. I have yet to really make use of the camera and video as I'm just not well enough to focus and it has been very overcast when i have been out also i am just a point and shoot type of photographer it's just just not one of the things i am into but here are a couple of pictures taken in the park it was overcast and Otis wasn't really in the mood for staying still as it was very humid these pictures were just quick snaps on auto settings.
Comparing it to devices that haven't even been released yet is also totally pointless as by the time they arrive the next generation of Nokia devices will be released or about to be.
Quite simply if you prefer SE great buy SE but please stop repeating all this rubbish about how bad a device is that you have never owned and most probably never even held. As you may well not even like it but it certainly is only marginally bigger than the K series and packs in so much more.
Marc
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Posted by antichrist
On 2007-06-17 15:18:28, Mr Miyagi wrote:
How can a 3.2 mega pixel camera be better than a 5mega pixel camera?
it's called marketing. if you have a 3.2mp camera and with the help of the software you make it a 5mp pictures( a pixelated 3.2mp picture) then you have a "brand new camera with astonishing resolution". the truth is, n95 has 5mp but the pictures are worse than k800's 3.2mp
Posted by Falcon786
One thing i particularly like about the music player on my n95 over other phones as a music player is that the headphones have every control on it so no need to fiddle around in my pocket to change a track etc in my pocket.even launching the music player is so easy by simply pressing play on the headphones while it's plugged in..and those complaining bout radio i have a complaint about w800 radio you cant change a station without unlocking your phone which is a long process compared to just pressing a button like the n95 and even other cheap nokias like 3200 etc can do!that just irritated me.
Posted by adcamb
When will people get the idea that all the manufacturers are producing very good phones and that the latest devices often have software / hardware flaws, which are usually rectified at some point in the device's life time.
If you prefer a Nokia phone, buy Nokia, if you like SE buy that, but don't consider it an affront to your man / woman hood that someone likes another device. Like what you've got, accept that the next device by any manufacturer may have some interesting features that yours doesn't and live with it. Even one less feature on a phone that's thinner or has better battery can be good if that's what people want.
The trick is to respect and learn from other people's decisions and experiences. You may just find you were wrong all along and the other device is nice to use after all. Denying yourself choice because of wounded pride is not going to help anyone.
I only buy SE phones, because I like them and I have too many compatible bits and pieces. Going back to only having one charger would be a real drag. But Nokia doesn't get to the number one spot by doing anything other than building the phones that the mass market wants. It's taken Ericsson / Sony Ericsson close to a decade in the wilderness to regain the market position it had with phones like the PF768 and T28. I've bought every one of their flagship phones since this time, so I'm well placed to say this.
Really if you think that any of the manufacturers give a damn about the oppinions of phone obsessed nerds like us then think again. There are millions of buyers out there who have busier lives and use their phones to make calls, take pictures and listen to music, those are the people they are targeting, not a few hundred people ranting from their bedrooms.
Posted by *Jojo*
@shali - What's that SD630
A Samsung It takes sharp images as I sees it 
@dogmann - Nice outdoor shots of OTIS . . . I may be wrong pal, but I guess those shots were taken without the SUN's FULL-shine
Or was it?
Posted by Dogmann
Hi JoJo,
No as i said it was very overcast and actually rained very heavily about 5 minutes after they were taken.
Marc
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Posted by Ashlars
"There's a thing in my pocket. It's an 1100."