Posted by axxxr
This documentary investigates how America captures and detains innocent muslim men, women and believe it or not children, and Tortures them all in the name of the so called War on Terrror!
You can watch watch this Tonight Channel 4 at 8pm
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Posted by fatreg
already on my eyetv to record
Posted by maggflodd
Yeah, watch it! It's sick! Children as young as 6-7 years... And then you watch US tv "news" shows where they laconically interview "information extraction experts" (no sh*t, that is the term they use for torture developers and profiteers!
)...example for "less messy info extraction"? "use toxins so that interviewee cannot breath without life support. Put in mri-scan at the same time so you can see if s/he lies. IF s/he lies turn off life support for a minute, then ask again!" 
Sick? How about raping children while the bad parents watch to break them? Rubber-stamped by adolf ashcroft, signed by dubya!
Watch it!
Posted by KingBooker5
The west invented this war on bloody terror. Now America are moaning and groaing on 9/11 when they provoked the whole damn thing! WTF are the west doing in Iraq any way? Just because they proposed the oil trade in the euro not dollor.... burn in hell Bush. You invade countrys and blame them and there religion
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-11 20:26:57, KingBooker5 wrote:
The west invented this war on bloody terror. Now America are moaning and groaing on 9/11 when they provoked the whole damn thing! WTF are the west doing in Iraq any way? Just because they proposed the oil trade in the euro not dollor.... burn in hell Bush. You invade countrys and blame them and there religion
Maggflodd
Posted by soulframe
Damn missed it. Did anyone record it, if so would they be willing to upload it to youtube or google video?
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-12 09:39:25, soulframe wrote:
Damn missed it. Did anyone record it, if so would they be willing to upload it to youtube or google video?
like:
http://www.infowars.com/artic[....]ed_cia_fly_terror_suspects.htm
or this
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/[....]endition/27520prs20061128.html
i didn't like the way they report on all those people tortured into confessing bullshit but then the same reporters throw in pseudo-fact after pseudo-fact most likely confessed under duress or completely made up by cia etc... Very strange attitude: "yeah, we believe this nonsense without any proof, while we show you all the nonsense that is milked for spin..."
back to journalism schoo!
Well, my opinion, but maybe it was acceptable viewing for newcomers to the subject? i think it elevated one type of bs to the level of fact, while correctly debunking another type of bs as an unacceptable horror!
worst, they gave no historical context; no info how that "torture industry" evolved etc etc... A typical example of documentary film-makers trusting a bit too much in their narrative skill and their idea of truth...I'd go as far as saying that by omission they kind of o.k.'ed the abuse of "bad" people while shedding some tears about "good" people - which is absurd!!! So, no upload from...
Maggflodd
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Posted by axxxr
The documentry really showed what the \"REAL\" America is all about and not the faux imagine it portrays itself to the world.
The documentry really did prove categorically that America itself breeds terrorism and is a terrorist themselves!
The world should stand up to the U.S and say thats enough,we don't want anymore of your facist order on the world!
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-12 15:56:50, axxxr wrote:
The documentry really showed what the "REAL" America is all about and not the faux imagine it portrays itself to the world.
The documentry really did prove categorically that America itself breeds terrorism and is a terrorist themselves!
The world should stand up to the U.S and say thats enough,we don't want anymore of your facist order on the world!
Posted by KingBooker5
You know even after watching it, it made me even more convinced that the American government are as bad or even worse then these extreamists. They make it out that they are all suffering becuase of the terrorist attacks, but come on, its been 2 years and nothing has happend to the west in a terrorist attacks. However many innocent people are dieing in the middle east and are expiriances 9/11 casulties every day and the West say there innocent and are suffering in this war! American people are very freindly, I know quite a few but its there government are the d!k heads in this all. People dont forget, every one is blaming the Americans, its not them its there government, dont forget so many of there own people are dieing every day. The government of America dont care about its own solidiers dieing in this pointless war.
We should strap Bush and its senate in M4A1 assult riffles and armour and let them fight there own damn war. Maybe that will please Bush's daddy!
Posted by maggflodd
...you're right, king... ,
thanks to folks like alex jones of prisonplanet.com however more'n'more americans are waking up, cause they understand they might well be the next "enemy combatants", rendered by their own government! Read this:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/a[....]2006/290906sexuallytorture.htm
Posted by oneofthose
yeah - I was a bit disappointed; thought they were, ehem, beating about the bush and pussyfooting. But it was a start! and of course - alex jones detailed those nasty trends in '98, and then came his "police state 2000" movie and it's all there! and people still say he was just lucky when he predicted 9/11 in july '01!!!!
@ kingbook5,
you,re welcome to the 9/11 thread to voice your valuable points, right, axxxr???
Posted by axxxr
On 2007-06-12 17:43:12, KingBooker5 wrote:
You know even after watching it, it made me even more convinced that the American government are as bad or even worse then these extreamists. They make it out that they are all suffering becuase of the terrorist attacks, but come on, its been 2 years and nothing has happend to the west in a terrorist attacks. However many innocent people are dieing in the middle east and are expiriances 9/11 casulties every day and the West say there innocent and are suffering in this war! American people are very freindly, I know quite a few but its there government are the d!k heads in this all. People dont forget, every one is blaming the Americans, its not them its there government, dont forget so many of there own people are dieing every day. The government of America dont care about its own solidiers dieing in this pointless war.
We should strap Bush and its senate in M4A1 assult riffles and armour and let them fight there own damn war. Maybe that will please Bush's daddy!
I have many decent American friends and American family members,but Lets not forget not all ordinary Americans are so innocent, a large part of 50% still support bush and his fake war on terror...so its not just the politicians you can blame for this.
Posted by maggflodd
@axxxr,
10 things about your "friends" the mainstream media won't report:
http://infowars.net/articles/june2007/130607Momma.htm
impeachment...court cases thrown out... bush=felon...censorship...child prisoners...
Posted by PeterKay
Thanks Axxxr, will defo watch it.
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-13 21:03:56, PeterKay wrote:
Thanks Axxxr, will defo watch it.
@all...,
you might check out a couple of clips about US police with the help of US Army practicing those child abductions in the States - kidnapping entire schoolclasses without the kids being told it's an excersise, without the parents consent to such a live-ammo excercise in which kids as young as 10yrs are handcuffed, blindfolded and transported to holding facilities all for the "war on terror" aka "terror on dissent!" Check out "terrorstorm" and "police state III" (google video)
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Posted by PeterKay
searching as we speak.....
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-13 21:07:52, PeterKay wrote:
searching as we speak.....
or rather -
the thugs!!!
Posted by axxxr
For any of you who missed the programme you can download it on Bitorrent HERE or HERE