Posted by Cycovision
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I feel very strongly about the issue of the UK television license fee. We feel that, especially nowadays, it's preposterous that people in the UK are forced to pay for the BBC channels whether we wish to watch them or not when there are plenty of other channels that have to support themselves through advertising and other means.
So I'd like to invite everyone to take part in a simple, one-question poll that I've set up on a freebie site here:
http://snappoll.com/poll/199277.php
It'll only take a few seconds, and the freebie site isn't full of spyware or anything like that!
Even if you're not from the UK, I'd like you to take part too. Do you agree that people in UK should be forced to pay £135.50 on top of their monthly fees for satellite / cable services, just for the privilege of owning a television set or other television receiving equipment?
I'm in the process of setting up a website about the issue, but I'd like to get a vague idea of people's opinions on the subject before it goes live.
Thanks in advance!
Posted by joebmc
Gets my vote!
Posted by fatreg
done cyco...
Posted by maggflodd
... Get rid off advertising, create a plausible viewers forum, and listen to that forums feedback! Stop ignoring half of the population 3/4 of the time; stop dumbing down; question authority; present news in a context; don't say "sports" when you mean men self-importantly f*cking about; more? F*ck the license fee...who pays for a "potential" service? Who buys a product you have no influence on, that you're only allowed to see until you bought it! Stop harassing people who really have no telly... Oh cyco..., you can't tick me off like that
I could go on and on - will poll your poll right now!
Maggflodd
Posted by Cycovision
Thanks all, keep the votes coming
@magg
Thanks for your vote mate, I take it you voted 'yes' then?
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-11 19:58:58, Cycovision wrote:
Thanks all, keep the votes coming
@magg
Thanks for your vote mate, I take it you voted 'yes' then?
how often can maggflodds vote?
Posted by fatreg
You cannot vote repeatedly.
BOOOOOOO!!!
I hate the tv license enough to vote twice though!!
Posted by Cycovision
Clear your Internet cookies, and reboot your router. The site goes on cookies and your IP address, reboot your router and you'll get a new one
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-11 20:19:12, Cycovision wrote:
Clear your Internet cookies, and reboot your router. The site goes on cookies and your IP address, reboot your router and you'll get a new one
Posted by Cycovision
HaHaHaHaHa!
You're a f*****g star, mate
Posted by chris_lyons
Voted with you mate!
Posted by shelly58
voted! its about time the tv licence was scrapped!!
Posted by Cycovision
Bump!
Posted by Burgaz
I cant believe people have voted FOR it...
Posted by Cycovision
Well, I suppose many people feel that there is too much TV advertising as it is without the Beeb getting in on the act.
Then there's people who believe the BBC's claim that if the license fee was dropped, the quality of their programs would suffer. Personally, given the drivel that the BBC has released over the past few years, I find this very hard to swallow!
Posted by joebmc
On 2007-06-12 13:57:21, Cycovision wrote:
Well, I suppose many people feel that there is too much TV advertising as it is without the Beeb getting in on the act.
Then there's people who believe the BBC's claim that if the license fee was dropped, the quality of their programs would suffer. Personally, given the drivel that the BBC has released over the past few years, I find this very hard to swallow!
I cant remember the last time i watched anything on the BBC and i never listen to there radio stations either so god knows why i should have to pay for a service i dont use!
Posted by batesie
just to play devils advocate, i think that as soon as you give advertisers access to the BBC it will become even more biased than it already is.
I believe there should be a complete overhaul of the media, papers and tv, and it should be run by a cooperative, where the people actually own it.
CO-OP TV AND CO-OP PAPERS!!!
It should act together to meet the common needs and aspirations of its members, sharing ownership and making decisions democratically.
Click to vote!
http://snappoll.com/poll/199446.php
ERM ANYWAY>>>> Yes i dont mind paying the TV licence, i do listen to BBC radio a lot and i LOVE the fact the BBC website has no popups that appear accross your screen.....
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Posted by Cycovision
I believe there should be a complete overhaul of the media, papers and tv, and it should be run by a cooperative, where the people actually own it.
Can't argue with that!
*clicks 'yes!'*
Posted by batesie
ha, erm wasnt meant to hijack your thread cyco
i'm a bit torn on the TV licence fee as i think the whole media needs to be addressed.
(btw @all: a forum is a perfect example of a cooperative media channel, as everyone has input to the content)
Posted by Cycovision
Well, actually the site I'm working on goes into the issue of the TV license much further, as obviously it's not a simple yes / no affair. I just think that the fee has got very expensive in recent years and of course advertising is not the only way that the BBC could get revenue. Pay-per-view maybe?
The main thing that ticks me off is that you are FORCED to have a license if you wish to own TV recieving equipment. It's downright dictatorial in my view!
Posted by maggflodd
On 2007-06-12 15:36:19, Cycovision wrote:
Well, actually the site I'm working on goes into the issue of the TV license much further, as obviously it's not a simple yes / no affair. I just think that the fee has got very expensive in recent years and of course advertising is not the only way that the BBC could get revenue. Pay-per-view maybe?
The main thing that ticks me off is that you are FORCED to have a license if you wish to own TV recieving equipment. It's downright dictatorial in my view!
visits from licens inspectors, invoices etc etc... And I'm not even going to debate the quality of irish tv nor the fact that they absudly believe a state broadcaster relying on potentially 1-2 million license payer can pay their "stars" as much or more than say uk or britain with 20 times the population... Or that the ratings scam has become ridiculous - on more and more days at certain times the numbers add up to 50 to 70 percent of the entire population
What's up with "free-market" and all that rubbish they so heavily promote in their schedule? How about a newspaper license you have to flash before you can buy your paper?
Posted by Nanu
I'm torn here, as an avid listener of Radio 1/2 mostly due to the fact that there are no annoying adverts ie "Buy one window get another window free, I SAID BUY ONE WINDOW GET ANOTHER WINDOW FREE" and "Hi I'm John Leach at the Widnes car centre" Those adverts really piss me off so much so I would rather not listen to the radio at all if ad free, wasn't available. That said you don't have to have a license to listen to BBC radio!
And I don't watch enough TV to warrant paying the extortionate fee, but I do watch TV, so I agree that we should all be given the choice i.e. it is legal to have a television set without the fee but without BBC, and if you want BBC you pay for it, It really isn't fair the way it is set up.
Especially now that when you buy a TV in a store they harass you into giving your details, even if you already have a license.
Nanu
Posted by maggflodd
Yep, and here they forced cable and satellite providers to include state broadcasters in all packages, so that on top of cable subscription you gotta pay a license...
Posted by Cycovision
Evening Bump!
Posted by procterdc
Certainly gets my vote. Can't say I watch BBC all that often, nothing to watch.
Posted by KingBooker5
You get my damn vote! However is anything gonna change?
Posted by Cycovision
Probably not. But there will be a petition on the site and I'm not the only one who is attempting to put pressure on the government to change this situation. The more the merrier!
Posted by fatreg
woudn't the BBC make more money by selling crap to UK gold etc etc?
Posted by Cycovision
As far as I know, they already do!
Which is another one of my gripes, they make more money per year than any other UK television station (I'm talking per individual stations here, not including the revenue from parent companies that own independent stations).
Also, did you know that they DO allow advertising already? Any Esato members from India who have watched the BBC World News channel will, I'm sure, confirm that they regularly advertise everything from cars and scooters to air conditioners and life insurance!
Posted by fatreg
Oh!
I've seen ads on BBC...
My auntie in Dubai gets Sky from KSA and that is full of ads!!
shameless..
but we don't need ads here thank you very much mr director general.
Posted by Cycovision
One last bump, just in case anyone hasn't seen it yet
Posted by Kwiksta
Got my vote matey!
Posted by goldenface
I just voted.
If there is a BBC Tax then there should be discounts for the poor.
I don't mind paying the licence fee.
We get BBC Radio (although I don't agree with the huge salaries some of those tossers earn!)
BBC Website - staggering!
Plus the BBC does niche programming, something which you hardly see on commercialised stations.
Plus I hate adverts. In every hour of programming we're forced to watch 20 mins of adverts 20 mins of ads on Sky, ITV etc. This also means that the BeeB has to provide more Programming output each day so its already at a disadvantage.
Its nice to watch a program and have it not interrupted.
@Cycovision
Do you still think we should have a licence if we only have a PC and not a TV to receive TV programming?
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