Posted by Bambino
Ok, i feel guilty about moaning in other topics, i found other people may get disturbed.
I think i better localize my moan
Ok everyone who disagree with
, any opinion, groaning, moaning, critics, debate are welcome here!
[ This Message was edited by: nokiamaniax on 2007-05-10 12:24 ]
Posted by Bambino
Well i think
should put a few leak.
So we can decide what were getting before were tempted by other manufacturer. Even i am tempted by leak of motorola z8 (nontouch screen uiq 3.1)
Why
didnt integrate their nts (non touch screen) uiq into their mid end tier?
Or they make motorola as their guinea pig?
Oh... Also a few people may misundestand me for critize
im not doing it to condemn to hell, i just want them to IMPROVE! I thinj need people like me to open their eyes, that were not their milk cow 
[ This Message was edited by: nokiamaniax on 2007-05-10 05:20 ]
Posted by Bambino
Now i moan about some opinion.
He/she(he i pressume) said that
He like phones that feel like phones and act like phones.
He may like to use k220
and he may didnt catch my point!
I was talking about smartphone. Simply all in one devices which is
lack of.
Posted by Bambino
This is quouation from other topic:
how many people would bother debating about a/f or no a/f? how many people know what aperture means?
Face it, the majority of the market does not care about these features
Says who? I care, many people care. Maybe
dont care. Because they nevel listen to us! Especially qcif video record 
I also find this guy is funny, people might not knowing about
Aperture, but people want the best for their phone
[ This Message was edited by: nokiamaniax on 2007-05-10 08:02 ]
Posted by goldenface
Finally, a dedicated moaning and groaning thread, well done matey
I think the people who decide the vid res in SE phones needs a good kick in the face.
Posted by Bambino
@goldenface
Yeah, why always qcif, i bet
programmer kinda lazy to improve the ui
At least they should put cif video recordin. Qvga is rather out of date actualy
Btw "groaning" is good word, i should add to the topic
[ This Message was edited by: nokiamaniax on 2007-05-10 12:29 ]
Posted by bodum
I thought this was about some other 'groaning and moaning'
. where's the SE 'ooh and ahh' thread?
Posted by goldenface
@bodum
You've got a dirty mind
I command you to go listen to 20hrs of Cliff Richard ballads as a punishment.
@nokiamaniax
QVGA would be good on all mid-tier phones, say K810i and upwards but at the moment I think there are only W900i, P990i that have QVGA rec res.
Thats pityful really!
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Posted by Bambino
@bodum
I leave that to you mate
@goldenface
Yeah, how could they did that qcif in 2007 is a STONE AGE! Look at nokia wit their oldies mid tier 6280 they already can do vga video record! Even samsung had implement qvga video record in their phone.
I just want to know their reason to put that lousy qcif video record. Even their flagship (p990 & p1) only features 15 fps qvga they should do at least 24fps cif !
What are
thinking about, by putting video rec resolution in their lower list to fix?
Are their proggramer idiot or lazy? I hope some of
staff or proggramer see this post and give some of their comment
Posted by lastikcizme
k750 and w800 were cutting edge at the time of their release. SE couldn't reach that leading features again.
Posted by Bambino
Yeah i remember that time, when i took my k750i and all of nokia owner keep quiet!
But now, i am the one that have to quiet.
My cousin proudly make his vga video record (when were tourhng abroad) with his beloved 6280. And i as p990 & w850 owner (at that time) can only make crappy videos! Even i feel shy to compare the result, so i took with my handycam instead. What a frustating moment!
Posted by lastikcizme
Is that all that is to moan and groan about SE? What about the ever-changing accessories (with little tricks like changing the placement of fastposts and such)? Or continuously changing designs of phones, instead of coming up with something really interesting? Or is everyone satisfied with the way SE pushes us towards?
edit. Some good discussion continues here: SE failing in producing good phones?
Similar threads are popping up every now and then, i guess that's why threads die very quickly..
[ This Message was edited by: lastikcizme on 2007-05-14 17:43 ]
Posted by Bambino
Nah, i like this thread to be informal one. (thats why i made it into garbage thread)
At least u can groan rather freely here
Posted by lastikcizme
Agreed. This thread should continue on its own, i hope more people will participate.
Posted by goldenface
I also, there every fastport should have a cover.
The K550i design would look a lot better if the fastport on the side was coverred up, it looks like an open wound.
Posted by Trev1982
I would like to moan about the new p series phone s/e are brining out, am i the only person that hates the built in keypads i don't see the point when its got a touchscreen, have never used the keypad on my p800, p900 or my p910i, thats why i don't own a p990i and never will, the new p1 looks shite in my opinion.
Posted by goldenface
For the keypad of the P990i, why not have two modes of sensitivity - one for use with your fingers and one for use with the stylus.
That way there would be no need for the onscreen keyboard as the qwerty could become touch sensitive and would it be great if it had little dimples in the top of each button so the stylus wouldn't slip.
And why not make a stylus that is rubber tipped? That way it wouldn't slip so much on the screen and it would also mark the screen less.
Also, if had some part of it that was magnetic, you could put it down on the stainless steel front of the phone when not in use and it wouldn't roll off so much.
Just some simple ideas.
Posted by Trev1982
or just take the keypad off and give us a big screen again, and why no stereo speakers se.?????
Posted by goldenface
And why don't we get cleaning cloths with every phone anymore?
If you're gonna be bringing out shiny phones like the K810i and T650i we need to be able to keep them shiny.
It can't be that expensive for a 2" square piece of cloth - minge bags.
Posted by Aware
....ooo.....
....and WHY, do
expect their 2006/7 3G/Wifi/QVGA/Xenon Flash/etc.. equipped handsets to provide multiple day's operating time......on a 2004 spec battery(not even mentioning the great BST-34 cover-up...oops!)??
Trying to beat Nokia for accessory 'longest length of service'(for BL5-C
)??
{feels better}
Posted by lastikcizme
A magnetic stylus is a good idea, simple but effective. Don't the manufacturers have testers who use and comment phones before their release? Fastport cover too is a good idea - that should really be covered as in Memory Stick covers.
By the way, are memory slots still covered with rubbery covers in the new phones? Nokia's for example have hard plastic covers that seem to be more durable IMHO. The cover on my w810 bulges out a little bit, i can see the blue color of Pro Duo card inside.
Posted by Bambino
I want the next p series equipped with:
-two memory card slot
-512mb internal
-256mb ram
-3d graphic chip (separate from proc)
-at least 300mhz cpu.
-preinstalled with many language
-class iii gps reciever
-100m bluetooth 2.0 + edr
-at least 3,2mp cam with xenon flash + led (for video record)
-at least 25fps cif video record
-3inch touch screen
-jog dial + d-pad
-e61 style qwerty with big "space" key
-stereo speaker
I think if
name that phone PX
Posted by deluded
I think I should join the thread. I'm very satisfied with my K750, but was looking forward to the K810 as a possible replacement. I thought it looked great, but unfortunately, the buttons aren't as good as on my K750. The joystick too, seems shorter and harder to use. Guess I'll stick to my K750. I wish SE would come up with a new phone that has decent video recording too.
Posted by lastikcizme
That's right, i can not understand what they are trying to do with the keypad? Give me normal, in someone elses words, "human usable" keys..!
Posted by Bambino
Well it look like
trend now is sacrificing comfort over fashion eg. K550, W610, W880
I wonder whats is in the head or:es: designer team? Or they should recuit nokias designer?
Posted by deluded
Another gripe I have about the K810. I thought the camera lens cover was gonna be more solid than the K800's since it looked similar to the K750's. Unfortunately, I was wrong, and it only looked like it was more solid, but in actual fact, was no more solid than the K800's.
Posted by QVGA
i want SE to make phones with bigger screens. who are they trying to kid by putting in a 2'' screen on a phone who's only specialty is taking pics?
Posted by Bambino
Maybe
ordered tons of 2" screen from chineese manufacture so they get "cheap" price
Posted by Bambino
Hmmm... I think someone in esato had misunderstood me as nokia fanboys...
anyways im doing (critics-groaning-moaning) this for
sake
maybe this can change ur mind
Posted by goldenface
Another moan from me.
I think SE desperately needs more 3.2mp phones on the shelves NOW.
Its always done really well at the higher end and those of us who had 2.0mp AF phones need more choice than the K800i and the K810i to upgrade too.
It should have about 4-5 different phones with 3.2mp out right now, there simply isn't enough choice and people will ultimately go elsewhere.
There has been just one 3.2mp phone available for the whole for 2006 and the K810i isn't that much different.
Posted by Bambino
Yeah their strategy is always packing their old tech in new housing. Thats make me bored to death
I think maybe
isnt allocated enough fund for their R&D department. I dont see their R&D department doing someting that give us big WoW or some Uh Ahh...
[ This Message was edited by: nokiamaniax on 2007-05-23 19:43 ]
Posted by pdechavez
Uhuh Uhh
Posted by QVGA
i also think the back of T650 is hideous, that camera module sticking out just shows the creativity that went into that phone. I think the idea behind was to release another T series phone so people go nuts over it "only" because its a T series. Nice trick by SE.
Posted by Bambino
But qcif video record is a disappointment?
Sometimes i wonder why
didnt put qvga or cif video record in t65? Its hardware or software limitations?
Posted by JuanPablo
I only want QVGA video, is that too much?
Posted by razec
i would like to see
having standardized Autofocus and Flash in all their camera phones(walkman,sliders,cybershots,PDAs etc), walkman grade media player 2.0, megabass equalizer, QVGA display @ 2 inches minimum, FM Radio... am i dreaming?
Posted by Bambino
Your wish is my command said
i wonder when is starting gonna say that to their customer
Posted by razec
BTW, Very nice idea nokiamaniax
To be able to express those negatives about SE, you made this topic, i think this should be officialized by esato and create and access to be able to reach the SE company
Posted by Bambino
U are so right mate! I wish
looking @ this thread then we can complain as many as we have 
Posted by razec
On 2007-05-25 16:43:45, QVGA wrote:
i also think the back of T650 is hideous, that camera module sticking out just shows the creativity that went into that phone. I think the idea behind was to release another T series phone so people go nuts over it "only" because its a T series. Nice trick by SE.
then i think you should understand that it's because of the autofocus motor inside that phone, even Samsung X620(it even has no AF!
) camera protudes in the casing, same thing goes to the slider D900. autofocus camera is just too long to fit the 12.5mm and below. if you don't like the protuding thing on t650 then ask SE to remove the autofocus, then later so many complains will flood it's thread regarding the lack of AF. i hope you understand that
i wonder how many people could notice that the 6500 classic is a copy of Samsung C100, and the rear profile resembles the T650!
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Posted by Chrispy
I'd like to bitch and moan about not having enough money to get a p1i, when it comes out
and, my w810's camera which requires hitting in order to work. Grr.
Posted by razec
hayy... SE was just too slow producing smartphones at this moment. i eve dreamed for a UIQ 3.1 SE phone in the form of a Cybershot and Z-series... SE is just a tad too slow.... too slow....
this was what i expect from this UIQ 3.1 phone: a.k.a. K850 successor and it's lower class model
-CCD camera sensor: 7.2Mp/5mp for the high class, 3mp for lower class
-2.4inches for high class/ 2.2 inches display for LC all have 16Million Colors
-New UIQ media player... with XMB/PSP grade media manager of course!
-Stereo Speakers, please many yearns for it!!!
-Fast port, Mini USB and 3.5mm embedded
-96/128Mb RAm
-300-330MHz CPU
-HSDPA/EDGE, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, Fast Infrared(FIR)
-WiFi for the higher class only
This was what i observed to be the most yearned features of a loyal SE fan
nokiamaniax, where are you?
Posted by max_wedge
My bitch with SE is mostly about the retardation of handsets to fit the either/or walkman/cybershot. I mean, K850 with no dedicated "play" button? How stupid.
And mostly no SF cameras in walkman range? How boring.
There should be atleast one model that has both walkman and cybershot branding and full complement of features of both.
But unlike many I don't begrudge SE their hardware being behind Nokia. I still think SE have style and great UI compared to other OEM's, and compete well with Samsung, Moto and LG. SE phones are still nice kit.
But the cybershot/walkman divide has gone too far.
Posted by razec
Oh no, I'm so jealous at Japanese people! SE japan recently announced SO905iCS - the phone every loyal SE shutterbug fan would have dreamed of and what did SE Eu gave us? K850? which is waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy outdated compared to that beauty? how wish i could live in Japan,.. sigh......
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Posted by max_wedge
yeah but it's probably a clamshell, like 90% of docomo phones!!
Posted by chili
I wish the W910 had wifi... and infrared for minimal battery consumption while connected all day to the PC (using MPE). Then E65 won't be very attractive.
Nokia put wifi on a 6301, why didn't SE put it on W910, nice big screen. Then thrown in a better web browser.
Bad idea for SE to use the fastport for ALL accessories -- USB cable, charger, headset. My K610i's fastport is very loose now. It became loose before I thought of using BT instead for MPE
Posted by razec
"Bad idea for SE to use the fastport for ALL accessories -- USB cable, charger, headset. My K610i's fastport is very loose now. It became loose before I thought of using BT instead for MPE "
^^
This is bad for some but for the rest of us it means more accessories to be unveiled and become compatible only in SE just like the HGE-100. let those samsung, moto and nokia become jealous whenever they see a low-end JP-7/JP-8 phone compatible with this powerful GPS module while their beloved non-SE phone don't have something cool like that
Posted: 2007-11-15 17:53
I wish the W910 had wifi... and infrared for minimal battery consumption while connected all day to the PC (using MPE). Then E65 won't be very attractive
^^ Hi matey i think you should have post that here
My Wish For SE this Coming Christmas
My new bitch was that why we can't see a K6-series 3G/HSDPA mid range phone standardized with a decent autofocus like the T650's one - T650's image quality is very decent, especially at low-light!
Posted by goldenface
Why can't we have a bluetooth stereo headset with a built in FM Radio?
Does such a thing exist?
Posted by Bambino
I demand NTS Smartphone.
Why
such a pain in the ass?
Posted by max_wedge
one of my few SE beefs is with the K800 music player. Why the hell did SE remove the "sort by date added" function?? I mean, it's the most common way I listen to my music, but now I have to add every new song to a playlist (and search through alphabetically trying to make sure I don't forget any of the 10 or whatever songs I just added) where as before I could just sort by date added and all my latest songs where there at the end of the list. Groannn!!!