Posted by p900 lover
With the PS3 launching this Friday in the UK I'm just wondering who will be getting one on release day?
I have a funny feeling there wont be a mad rush to the shops to get one, for example Game are still guaranteeing launch day availability, it could be because Sony have got there act together and are sending a large batch but i doubt it.
For me, well I'm waiting for a) any bugs to come out and b) for the price to go down
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Posted by djtwistter
as the ps3 got hacked last week i fell it for sony as ppl can play hacked games on a ps3 likr the psp got hacked
Posted by Kwiksta
I was going to, it was my birthday on Wednesday and so I would've but I want to study hard for my exams and then hopefully buy one after (Around July), hopefully by then the price will go down too.
Kwiksta
Posted by oneofthose
Well, here it's gooa cost ?665.00 - that's in the same shop an acer notebook plus a w810, e.g. ... Guess I'll wait for gta '4' on xbox 360Which by oct. will be a third of a ps3...
Posted by Xugaa
I'm going to leave it for a bit, my mum said she'd buy me one for my birthday later this year lol. That'll give them time to iron out any bugs as well as time for the most looked forward to games to come out.
I bought my PS2 a while after the launch and it still works perfectly even today, and yes I'm talking about the original "fat" version of the PS2.
But most of my friends have pre-ordered their PS3 and so I guess I'll have to live a life of jelousy for a while...
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Posted by Xugaa
On 2007-03-19 00:45:18, djtwistter wrote:
as the ps3 got hacked last week i fell it for sony as ppl can play hacked games on a ps3 likr the psp got hacked
I'm not doubting you or saying you're lying, but that sounds like another anti-Sony rumour to me... but if it is true I'm sure I'm right when saying that even Nintendo and Microsoft fans will hope this comes to a stop and that those who do do this sort of thing are punished, as in a way we are all affected and all vulnerable to this type of illegal happening.
Posted by ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ
For anyone waiting for the price to go down....have a nice 5 year wait
They already said they won't be lowering the price for the for seeable future.
Posted by djtwistter
On 2007-03-19 14:26:14, Xugaa wrote:
On 2007-03-19 00:45:18, djtwistter wrote:
as the ps3 got hacked last week i fell it for sony as ppl can play hacked games on a ps3 likr the psp got hacked
I'm not doubting you or saying you're lying, but that sounds like another anti-Sony rumour to me... but if it is true I'm sure I'm right when saying that even Nintendo and Microsoft fans will hope this comes to a stop and that those who do do this sort of thing are punished, as in a way we are all affected and all vulnerable to this type of illegal happening.
i dont chat crap look it up yourself
http://playstation.about.com/b/a/257796.htm
Posted by Horonaim
On 2007-03-19 15:14:36, ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ wrote:
For anyone waiting for the price to go down....have a nice 5 year wait
They already said they won't be lowering the price for the for seeable future.
I agree mate, I've read somewhere before, during the early days of the ps3, that sony is losing money for every ps3 manufactured, because of the parts(blu-ray drives, etc.).
so i think they wont lower the price anytime soon.[ This Message was edited by: Horonaim on 2007-03-19 16:40 ]
Posted by stiltzkin
I doubt they'll lower the price... however it is still the cheapest Blueray player on the market...
Hacked games??? Well makes them cheaper for some, however the reason Sony make a loss on each unit, is because they'll recoupe on the games sales... so hacking the games only means that the unit will be more expensive for longer.
Although I understand that this effects return on R&D, Sony are still worth a shit load... (Share price risen from $40 - $52 in the last 6 months) So I don't have as much sypathy as I would for a small SWH.
Posted by arien617
Xugaa wrote:
I'm not doubting you or saying you're lying, but that sounds like another anti-Sony rumour to me... but if it is true I'm sure I'm right when saying that even Nintendo and Microsoft fans will hope this comes to a stop and that those who do do this sort of thing are punished, as in a way we are all affected and all vulnerable to this type of illegal happening.
PSP's have been hacked. Go to dl.qj.net and you can get the open source DarkAlex firmware, let's you play downloaded PSP games and use emulators for downloaded PS1/2 games and even othe formats like SNES.
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Posted by Xugaa
Yeah ok, keep your pants on!
Posted by Kwiksta
Technically, the PS3 still can't play the pirated games and so not fully 'hacked'.
Yes, people can rip off the Blu-ray disc to the HDD by running Linux on their PS3 but no one has come out with a way to play them. Apparently a TIFF Exploit does exist. At the moment an ISO Loader is still in development but it won't be released publicly until after the Europe Release date (This Friday).
So - to some up, NO YOU CAN'T PLAY BACKUPS yet but you can rip them.
If I were to buy a PS3 I definitely won't modify it's s/w like I did my PSP. My PSP still plays great and is in excellent condition, but I wouldn't like a £425 investment getting bricked. Also, I don't think it's fair to release and ISO loader for the PS3 as it's a great product and I wouldn't like to see Sony fail again like the PSP.
Hope that helps
Kwiksta
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Posted by djtwistter
dont worry about it getting bricked coz i wait a bit for some gud devolement on the hacks before i do it
Posted by scottt
I presume you mean development........ The spelling of the youth today......
To be honest i would'nt care if the hacks went through 5 years of developments, i would no way mod a £400 + piece of equipment knowing that theres still a possibility of it becoming the first Sony doorstop
Posted by Kwiksta
On 2007-03-19 20:59:16, scottt wrote:
To be honest i would'nt care if the hacks went through 5 years of developments, i would no way mod a £400 + piece of equipment knowing that theres still a possibility of it becoming the first Sony doorstop
I know exactly what you mean mate
@ djtwistter True say man, but just imagine this: Updating to a custom firmware and then you have a power cut/power lead 'comes' out...I know it seems really unlikely, but it can happen (Of course it could also happen when updating the normal way...I hope Sony do something to prevent it). I just want to keep my PS3 up-to-date and clean
...My PSP is on custom firmware 3.10 OE and all is good, but I don't want to do the same to my PS3...
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Posted by Xugaa
Found this; 'PS3 withstands hack challenge'...
Liz Tay, PC World
19/03/2007 14:49:21
There was only one winner of an international challenge that offered a PlayStation 3 to any hacker able to attack it: Sony. Over the two-month-long competition, the PlayStation 3 was able to withstand numerous attempts by hackers worldwide, proving to the competition organiser its potential use as a server.
The challenge was first issued in November 2007 by Japanese Web host Shimpinomori to test the security of the PlayStation 3 Open Platform and the viability of using it as a heavy-duty server platform. Results came as a pleasant surprise to Shimpinomori founder, Augustin Vidovic.
"I was half expecting that someone would find a crack in the Linux setup, and it did not happen," he said. "Nobody could hack into the PS3."
And it wasn't for lack of trying. Standard hack attempts have left Vidovic with more than one gigabyte of logs full of what he calls 'unimaginative' attempts on the HTTP. Other hackers attempted brute force attacks on the SSH port.
According to Vidovic, the most notable hack attempt exploited a limitation in the number of simultaneous SSH connections that could be supported on the PS3, in order to prevent other challenge participants to connect to the SSH for a few hours.
The challenge was called to a halt on 2 January 2007 with the PS3 emerging unscathed. Vidovic said this proved the PS3's abilities to run continuously for extended periods of time without any heat problems, and can be trusted to be a good, reliable and secure server.
Vidovic now owns three PS3 machines, one of which will be used as a server, the second as an experiment development platform for the Cell processor, and the third as a game console. He is currently also researching applications and methods to set up a PS3 as a server.
Credit: http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1319427689 BBCode End -->
Posted by djtwistter
On 2007-03-19 21:19:22, Kwiksta wrote:
On 2007-03-19 20:59:16, scottt wrote:
To be honest i would'nt care if the hacks went through 5 years of developments, i would no way mod a £400 + piece of equipment knowing that theres still a possibility of it becoming the first Sony doorstop
I know exactly what you mean mate
@ djtwistter True say man, but just imagine this: Updating to a custom firmware and then you have a power cut/power lead 'comes' out...I know it seems really unlikely, but it can happen (Of course it could also happen when updating the normal way...I hope Sony do something to prevent it). I just want to keep my PS3 up-to-date and clean
...My PSP is on custom firmware 3.10 OE and all is good, but I don't want to do the same to my PS3...
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they they wont as it too late now and they will come up with a custom trust i only wish darkalex was on for this one it would be speed up soo much and my psp is 3.03 oc now it better than 3.10 oe trust
Posted by Trev1982
i already played on one and unless you have a huge tv that will display 1920x1080 i wouldnt bother, i stick with my xbox 360 and who does hmv think they are "you gotta buy a psp with it" WTF
Posted by DonJuan
Man us uk ppl really get ripped off. I live in usa now but i'm from birmingham. The playstation 3 here is 600 something dollars. You lot it the uk almost pay double that. Its a joke. I thought 600 dollars was a lot!
Posted by Burgaz
It's not really double. More like 100 dollars more...
Posted by DonJuan
oh i thought someone said it was 700 pounds
Posted by Burgaz
Nah! £425... Still a bit far out if you ask me!
Posted by Xugaa
Approximately...
USA Cost - $600 = £307
UK Cost - £425 = $832
Sony Production Cost Per Console - $800 = £409
It would seem that Sony are collecting their production to sale losses from the USA and Japan through Europe.
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Posted by MikLSP
I have mine coming on Friday from Amazon
As for the cost....
well lets consider it:
(and before the usual fanboy nonsense begins, I will state that I also bought a 360 on release day so I haven't just dismissed it without thought)
Firstly it is the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market and according to T3 magazine it also performs better than the Samsung stand alone player with faster loading times and better picture quality.
Already some value there then.
Oh and what else is squeezed in there too? Ah yes, THE most advanced console in the world!
I admit that the current batch of games aren't much different to the 360 but since when did the first lot of games take full advantage of ANY console, I read that developers can are only making use of 40% of the systems abilities so far.
Edit- actually only 20% so far....according to the Vice President of EA SEE HERE
As for the 360 price....the full system costs £280 then you need to buy the HD-DVD drive (£130) and the WiFi adapter (£60) to make it have the same abilities as the PS3 taking the total cost to £470....more than the PS3 and still not as good.
Not as good? Why? you ask....
Don't get me wrong I really like the 360 but the PS3 is better for the following reasons:
Firstly I prefer my system to be all in one package not surrounded by add-ons and after thoughts.
Second the 360 cannot play games from the HD discs and so is limited to the comparitively small size of DVDs. As we can already see with several 360 games this makes them short
a shame really.
Third is the HDD, 20GB vs 60GB and also the PS3 HDD can be easily uograded.
The PS3 also has HDMI outputs, sadly missing from the 360.
Then there are headsets, no need to buy a special PS3 headset as it can simply use any bluetooth headset.
Also the six-axis controller is an advantage over the 360. It isn't a copy of the Wii as the anti-Sony propaganda claims but it is put to effective use in smallparts of games such as Resistance Fall of Man where you shake the pad to shake off attacking aliens on tilt it to roll on the floor when on fire
Next is the online service which is free on the PS3 but a paid service on the 360, more additional costs there.
Another bonus is the connectivity with the PSP which can be used to remotely control the PS3 media and menus over Wifi and can also stream music and video to the PSP screen. Also with the new PS3 f/w update released this coming Thu, this will be able to be done from anywhere using a WiFi hotspot.
So while the 360 might seem initailly cheaper I believe it is a false economy in the long run and lets not forget that we haven't seen any where near the full capabilities of the PS3 yet.
I think now it is finally coming out we will see what it actually has to offer, many people seem to have dismissed it as soon as they saw the price without actually looking into it.
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Posted by p900 lover
Does the PS3 have a HD DVD player built in?
Posted by scottt
On 2007-03-20 15:03:52, p900 lover wrote:
Does the PS3 have a HD DVD player built in?
Has a Blu-Ray player built in ....
Posted by p900 lover
I know it has BLue Ray but is that the same as HD?
Posted by arien617
HD DVD and Blu-Ray are different formats, Blu-Ray has higher capacity discs compared to HD DVD but there are rumours of tri-layer HD DVD discs coming soon.
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Posted by lamont
id rather go and watch carmen electra in her new film myself!
Posted by Dicky Snapples
im getting one,mainly for the blueray player,as id rather pay £340 for it,than 800 odd quid for a stand alone player
Posted by Kwiksta
@ MikLSP
Very well said indeed
. When you get it please post back here with your comments and which console you like best
Btw, do you mind giving me a link to the article about developers only using 40% of its potential? I don't doubt you at all, but I would like to read what they have to say
Thanks!
Kwiksta
Posted by ayejatt
mine is coming THURSDAY MIDNIGHT
Posted by arien617
@ayejatt
If it's Thursday midnight, technically it would be early Friday morning.
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Posted by Superluminova
Getting mines on friday morning from virgin, I personally can't wait. Not for the gaming side, but for the mutimedia side of things!
Woo Hoo Blu Ray all the way!
Posted by ayejatt
On 2007-03-20 20:26:49, arien617 wrote:
@ayejatt
If it's Thursday midnight, technically it would be early Friday morning.
indeed it is friday morning...hope it wont ruin my Final yr in uni...
Posted by p900 lover
Good to see a few people getting it, means you can give me some feedback lol
Im sure i will get mine in due time but to be honest at the moment there is no point for me, i dont have time to play the 360 let alone the PS3,
Posted by voda_jon
@p900 lover...
Same ere... i play ma wii prob bout 25mins each day (an thats jus to keep me fit lol... ma arms r gettin bigger an av lost some weight playin wii sports an warioware!) but ma 360 jus sits there until i have ppl round who play it for me or if i wanna watch a hd-dvd film lol...
PS3 can wait till i got more time on ma hands lol...
J.
Posted by Xugaa
On 2007-03-20 15:03:52, p900 lover wrote:
Does the PS3 have a HD DVD player built in?
You can't play a HD-DVD in a Bluray player and vice versa.
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Posted by Trev1982
Why do you guys want BLU-Ray so much i dont get it,
Posted by MikLSP
On 2007-03-20 20:11:22, Kwiksta wrote:
@ MikLSP
Very well said indeed
. When you get it please post back here with your comments and which console you like best
Btw, do you mind giving me a link to the article about developers only using 40% of its potential? I don't doubt you at all, but I would like to read what they have to say
Thanks!
Kwiksta
I can't seem to find that actual article and I can't remember where it was even written but I have found an even more interesting one which actually states an even lower figure of 20%! and that is from the Vice President of Electronic Arts
Take a look HERE
Posted by Xugaa
On 2007-03-21 01:00:21, taz666 wrote:
Why do you guys want Blu-ray so much i dont get it,
I don't know who was raving about it; but just to answer your question I would say the main reasons being smaller scratchproof discs with higher capacity, supports higher quality imagery and is backed by more companies.
Posted by seanflynn
picking mine up thursday night 12pm special store opening at the game
Posted by >500
On 2007-03-21 03:13:37, Xugaa wrote:
On 2007-03-21 01:00:21, taz666 wrote:
Why do you guys want Blu-ray so much i dont get it,
I don't know who was raving about it; but just to answer your question I would say the main reasons being smaller scratchproof discs with higher capacity, supports higher quality imagery and is backed by more companies.
@xugaa
blu-ray discs are more prone to scrathes than hd dvd discs...
Posted by DonJuan
blu ray is outselling hd dvd 4 to 1 i think too, im going to go for blu ray
Posted by Burgaz
bloody hell Gran Tursimo HD(the one with thousands of micro trasactions to buy all the cars and stuff) Is gonna be available on release day fo download!
That suddenly makes the ps3 alot more interesting to me!
Posted by Trev1982
On 2007-03-21 03:32:59, jedi-master wrote:
On 2007-03-21 03:13:37, Xugaa wrote:
On 2007-03-21 01:00:21, taz666 wrote:
Why do you guys want Blu-ray so much i dont get it,
I don't know who was raving about it; but just to answer your question I would say the main reasons being smaller scratchproof discs with higher capacity, supports higher quality imagery and is backed by more companies.
@xugaa
blu-ray discs are more prone to scrathes than hd dvd discs...
Its already been proved they not scratch proof
Posted by Trev1982
I got my 360 and hd-player addon for less than the ps3, ok my screen may have cost me a arm and a leg but you will never get me to convert to blu ray,it looks amazing, i even converted 720p down to mp4 with smart movie ad its dvd quality on my p910i, So up the Hd i say stuff blu-ray, Gonna be Vhs v's Betamax all over again
Posted by joebmc
How much better is blueray/hd dvd than normal dvd? is it like the differnce between vhs and dvd?