Posted by Prom1
On 2008-10-10 02:07:30, jcwhite_uk wrote:
BES server you normally get from your service provider if you sign upto several BES accounts. BES accounts are approx £30 a month on top of your phone tariff
You get the BES Service Data Plan from your provider - NOT the BES Server. Just to clarify and not cause confusion with the wording here - but I know what you intended to say.
Can anyone overseas (UK/Europe) confirm that the BB Storm sold by Vodafone has the Triband HSPA that the Bold has?! There is a lot of documentation confusion being spread even in the most reliable 3rd party places with regards to this. RIM site states only the 9530 not the 9500.
Thanks.
Posted by Dogmann
@MWEB
BES otherwise known as Blackberry Enterprise Server is for Company's to run much like Microsoft Exchange Server whilst mere mortals like us use BIS which is Blackberry Internet Service. This usually costs £10pm per month from all the Networks but when i got my BOLD i took advantage of an Orange offer which means it is only costing me £2.50pm for the length of my contract.
One of the things that had always put me off BB's was this £10pm charge when i could get Seven on my S60 devices for free. Although that was a free Beta it would still of only cost 50% when it ends. But for £2.50 it can live with the expense as it does work so well.
Marc
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Posted by masseur
Orange pulling Bolds to fix software issues (Engadget)
Posted by zootzoot
Not suprised considering all the flipping firmware updates that have been released.
Posted by themarques
Strange request, but can anyone that uses usenet upload 4.6.0.167 and then supply me with the nzb? its just that were I am its super slow to download it from the usual free sites and by the time I do manage to, it cuts off and I cant resume.
if you could email the nzb to
somnabulist at gmail com
Thanks
Posted by Daedalus85
Right, I've been weaned off my Blackberry I think!
I got fed off to high hell with it, really titted me off, so I put my sim in my newly aquired K750i, used it for 2, almost 3 weeks, and finally put it back in the 8310 today. I have to say.....I miss the K750i already :/
Dunno why, I think maybe I'm having one of those phone revalation things, but maybe it's time to go 'back to basics', cause the K750i does everything I want apart from the occasional email and proper voice dialing, oh and the v.occasional GPS, but only cause my incar GPS sucks.
Thing is, 99% of the time, my phone was going off with junkmail, and as much as I add it all to filters, there's always new stuff coming through. I've decided I don't use e-mail enough to actually benefit from it.
I used to use it to read my business emails when I was out, but seeing as most business emails I get can wait at least 24 hours (there's never any hurry, the stuff we do takes days and weeks to plan, not hours) and I'm always near a PC if I need to reply to them (except once, when we were out filming on location, it was a god send then, but ONCE in 7 months is bugger all really).
Can anyone convince me to stay, or will I be listing it on here by next week? Cause I could do with the money
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Well despite all the stories of Orange pulling the Bold i spoke to them yesterday to find out what was happening and if they had pulled it would would those of us that had the early ones get them exchanged.
I was speaking with some one that actually knew what they were doing and not just some muppet they also went off and checked the facts for me with a supervisor. Orange know their is a problem with the earlier software and are advising their users how and where to upgrade to newer software. They have NOT pulled the Bold they are sold out as always you can't just believe all you read all the time.
There are so many Bolds out there and most of them once running the later firmwares have very few if any problems. If this story really was true there would be literally thousands of unhappy Bold users and whilst there may be some it isn't everyone.
@Daedalus85
I don't really think anyone can convince you what is best for you only you can know what you want and need from your device. There really isn't one device that is best for all us and seriously doubt there ever will be. But seeing as E-Mail really isn't that important to you and that is a BB's strongest point i wonder why you choose one in the first place.
Personally i wouldn't of got the model you have myself as it lacks 3G/HSDPA and not sure but possibly WiFi also.
I choose the Bold as it has all of the above plus excellent Multimedia currently the best found in a BB and better than most other devices.
It's my first BB and i love it the OS is fast and stable the Music player and sound is the best i have had on any device and replaced my now sold iPod. The screen is stunning for everything from looking at my Pictures to watching Videos or Web surfing. I love the simplicity of use and how great the PIM is along with the choice of 12 different Font styles and 8 sizes. But just because it is currently best for me doesn't mean it has to be for anyone or everyone else.
Marc
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Posted by Daedalus85
I chose it because a) I could get one for free, and secondly because I thought the e-mail might be handy from a business perspective. To a lesser extent it was handy, but not enough to warrant keeping it I reckon.
I'd use GPS more than WiFi cause I've got a Nokia 770 with me in my bag at all times which I can use with WiFi networks etc, and because of the way the BB's compress data etc, email especially, I don't notice much of a slow down really.
I had a good time with it, but even after fixing it's speed issues yesterday, I still can't beat a good old simple K750i, because its just works, its reliable, acurate and you dont spend ages trying to select the right thing when you scroll past it by accident with the BB.
Posted by Nanu
On 2008-10-12 10:06:58, Daedalus85 wrote:
you dont spend ages trying to select the right thing when you scroll past it by accident with the BB.
You either have clumsy thumbs or need to turn down the trackball sensitivity!
Posted by MWEB
Well, i'm heading the other way, with a 8320 arriving Tuesday courtesy of Fatreg.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Well i just stumbled across this very interesting post over @BGR which claims that there are some even better and greater BB devices on the Horizon. One is claimed will have a 5 megapixel AF camera and near HD quality screen and there are already Storm 2 & 3 in the works. You can get better details here
http://www.boygeniusreport.co[....]rks-storm-2-and-3-coming-soon/
I had a feeling late 2008 and 2009 where going to be a really big year for Rim and it looks like i may be right on the money. As it looks like they will have a real iPhone beater that will not only satisfy there usual Business users but appeal to a much wider audience. Personally i think we will see Rim in the No2 spot for smart phones and drawing further ahead of WM, Apple and Google and maybe even closing the gap to Nokia looks like 2009 will be far more interesting than 2008 has been for us gadget lovers.
Marc
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Posted by EMS06
On 2008-10-12 15:56:44, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all,
Personally i think we will see Rim in the No2 spot for smart phones and drawing further ahead of WM, Apple and Google and maybe even closing the gap to Nokia looks like 2009 will be far more interesting than 2008 has been for us gadget lovers.
Marc
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RIM is a number two player already Dogmann. It overtook Windows around Q2 this year.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi EMO6,
I am quite aware of that sorry if you misunderstood or my post wasn't clear as i said
"Personally i think we will see Rim in the No2 spot for smart phones and drawing further ahead of WM, Apple and Google and maybe even closing the gap to Nokia looks like 2009 will be far more interesting than 2008 has been for us gadget lovers."
Not that they would get to the 2nd spot as they are already there but pull closer to Nokia and away from their rivals who people are happily talking up but have a lot to do IMO. Seriously the Bold is my first BB and whilst not perfect as what is? it's really impressed me. They really have addressed their previous weakness and are a serious force to be contended with. I seriously doubt that even when WM7 arrives Q3 2009 it will rival what Rim have to offer. Also by the sound of what Rim are working on and have in store for us Apple better make the iPhone 2 3G really special. As there offerings don't look they will be skimping on any features.
Marc
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Posted by EMS06
Okay, I see.
Well, looking at those figures it is clear that they (RIM) are eating into Nokia's share. They dropped Nokia from 64% to 57 which is quite a chunk if you ask me.
Good for us the end users that there's so much competition.
Posted by Daedalus85
On 2008-10-12 10:14:16, Nanu wrote:
On 2008-10-12 10:06:58, Daedalus85 wrote:
you dont spend ages trying to select the right thing when you scroll past it by accident with the BB.
You either have clumsy thumbs or need to turn down the trackball sensitivity!
Lol, prolly both, but even then, it doesn't have the definete 'click' that buttons, or even a joystick has, meaning if I'm walking along the high street, trying to scroll somewhere, I don't have any precision, no matter what sensitivity the scroll wheels on.
It's a lovely device, and does what it does well when it's working, but I prefer something that's going to just work really well all of the time, something that I can pull out of my pocket, unlock and go, zip bang just like that lol
Plus the camera-slide cover is sooooo handy on my K750i lol
Posted by jcwhite_uk
On 2008-10-10 14:04:03, Prom1 wrote:
On 2008-10-10 02:07:30, jcwhite_uk wrote:
BES server you normally get from your service provider if you sign upto several BES accounts. BES accounts are approx £30 a month on top of your phone tariff
You get the BES Service Data Plan from your provider - NOT the BES Server. Just to clarify and not cause confusion with the wording here - but I know what you intended to say.
Yes, sorry didnt explain very well. You can get the software for BES free from your service provider providing you take out a large enough business contract with BES enabled accounts on it. You need to provide server hardware with a connection to your exchange server (or Lotus Notes or Novell Groupwise).
I am personally a BES admin at work and BES servers have quite a few more functions than BIS provides.
Posted by Marc_SE
Went to the O2 Bold Launch Party (London) this evening and entered the prize draw for an O2 Bold - and won!
Posted by jcwhite_uk
On 2008-10-14 00:50:03, Marc_SE wrote:
Went to the O2 Bold Launch Party (London) this evening and entered the prize draw for an O2 Bold - and won!
Well done.
Posted by Superluminova
Well done dude,
I got my own good new today, I'm now officially the business advisor for the Vodafone Experience store and i'll be getting my own company paid Blackberry at some point this month. Woo Hoo!
and the best bit, its either going too be a Bold or a Storm, so pray for me dudes as i want a free Storm so bad!
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Posted by Daedalus85
On 2008-10-14 00:50:03, Marc_SE wrote:
Went to the O2 Bold Launch Party (London) this evening and entered the prize draw for an O2 Bold - and won!
Crapcakes, I had an invite to that and totally forgot :/
Posted by MWEB
Right, now a BB owner
, nice little 8320 in black, build is v solid, really dinky bearing in mind the qwerty keypad, really loving the trackball, it's a sheer delight to scroll through all the apps on the main screen, and a simple press and scroll into the deeper menu items.
I'm starting to grasp as to why so many of you swear by these things
Posted by fatreg
On 2008-10-15 16:06:42, MWEB wrote:
I'm starting to grasp as to why so many of you swear by these things
Hallelujah!!
Posted by dougproctor
I had a Curve and went back to Nokia and SE for a while. I have also returned to BB and absolutely love it. The data package costs are much better than they were before i.e. have got 250Mb a month for £2.50 rather than the 6Mb for £8 I had before. I love the push email, the BB pinning and the web browser which is actually useable.
You Nokia/SE people - come over to Blackberry and see what you are missing!! You might even get to talk to Fatreg!
Anyone want to buy an 8320? lol
Posted by Marc_SE
Thanks guys!
So who is going to post their PIN up so I/we can add them to BB Messenger?
Posted by fatreg
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=163086
there you go Marc_SE...
Posted by kk.226
Was in town today and had a play with a Bold in-store... Liked it so much I picked it up sim-free!
Just waiting for my BB add-on to be, well... added-on to my tariff at midnight then i'll take a good look at it.
Bit of a jump from the 88xx series I'm used to...
The menu put me off the Curve etc. But this one's stunning.
Posted by nicv27
i am thinking of getting a Blackberry Bold i know they are not known for the multi media capabilities but i am disappointed with the n96.
Before i go out and get one can someone put up some pictures taken with a bold please so i can get an some idea.
Or point me in the right direction
thanks
Posted by jcwhite_uk
Check out my post here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=142346&start=1596
Posted by nicv27
^ Many thanks
Posted by Dogmann
Hi nicv27,
I was always ld to believe that BB's were weak in respect of Multimedia so avoided for that and other reasons. With the Bold that is most certainly not true my Music in the same 256kbps AAC and using my Shure EC2g ear phones sounds better on the Bold then on any of my previous Nokia's not N95 or N95 8GB was close. In fact the Bold has replaced my now sold iPod and the Bold is just as great as playing Video to.
@Mweb
Welcome to the wonderful world of BB it's certainly grabbed my attention in big way and really continued to impress me to.
Marc
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Posted by ofiaich
Hi!
there is one thing I need to check out, before I too step into the BlackBerry World.
Japanese input! Oh no ! you all scream
Dam ofiaich, with his Japanese input again...
I know, through the help of people here, that Japanese can be displayed.
I am wondering about input. iPod Touch and iPhone Japanese input is easy! Really good fonts too !
With the hardware keyboard, if Japanese is somehow called up, through the menu -> settings... etc. then the vowels will show as
a あ i い u う e え o お
then key presses consonant plus vowel. would give this if we chose K + a vowel.
ka か ki き ku く ke け ko こ
A word such as 'sake' would be type sake → さけ and if the space bar is pressed then → 酒 can be seen.
Could anyone try this for me please?
Maybe head is spinning with my upgrade due shortly....
1. keep TyTn2, and buy iPod Touch 2gen, and c905.
2. Get BlackBerry Storm, because I like virtual keyboards and don't use the TyTn2 keyboard very much. Keep TyTn2 as a backup.
3. get HTC Touch HD because Japanese on Windows Mobile is easy, keep TyTn2 as a backup.
I do admit I like the look of the Storm !
Any help and screen shots appreciated ! I will look up BB help line number now and ring them !
Ofiaich
Posted by ofiaich
Hi!
Anyone fancy giving this input a try?
Ofiaich
Posted by dainesefreak
I've had a Bold on "trial" for a while now, it's a nice handset. Nice screen and keyboard but it's slightly bulkier/heavier than the Curve. It's nicely put together, with a nice solid feel.
I also had a play with the Storm today and that's nice too. If you're in the market for a Bold I'd say that it's worth waiting a couple of weeks and taking a look at the Storm.
Posted by ofiaich
Hi dainesefreak !
where did you have a play with the Storm? I heard it is Vodafone only, at least for now.
Ofiaich
Posted by Superluminova
He might have been at the training vodafone have been holding this week.
I myself was supposed to be going but i'm off on holiday. You win some, you lose some i guess.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all
The Storm is indeed a VodaFone in Europe lifetime exclusive and in the US Verizon lifetime exclusive. But there is apparently a Storm2 with even better specs already in the works and should be launched not to long after the Storm. It really looks like Rim and their Blackberry's are really going to move away from just Business users and hit mainstream by year end and grow as we go into 2009.
Marc
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Posted by ofiaich
Hi Superluminova!
I myself was supposed to be going but i'm off on holiday. You win some, you lose some i guess.
Send me in your place if you want !
Thanks Marc! That helps, so maybe I need to wait for the Storm2?
Ofiaich
Posted by dainesefreak
We have a large BlackBerry deployment at work and I'm evaluating a further rollout of devices, so I got to play with a few new and furture devices. You're right that the Storm is a Vodafone only exclusive.
RIM have actually said that they want part of the iPhone/general consumer market and they believe that the Storm will give them that. I've got to say that as an Omnia owner the screen on the Storm was, different, good but different and the UI seemed nice and fast.
Posted by tmagberry
London BB Storm Launch Party tonight...
Anyone fancy an entry?
Posted by Dogmann
@tmagberry,
I wish i was well enough to be able to attend should be very interesting to see a Storm hands on.
Marc
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Posted by tmagberry
Sorry to hear that.
Reviews of the party in LA seem dreary so you might not missing on much...
Posted by jcwhite_uk
I would love to go to the Storm launch party but will be driving back to th south coast from manchester.
Posted by tmagberry
I am sure there will be load of people thinking of you..
Posted by tmagberry
Vodafone are now officially taking orders for the Storm!
Posted by fatreg
You got the email too then tbag?
Posted by Nanu
BlackBerry 8220 lands in the UK via O2
Posted by jcwhite_uk
The 8220 page has been up for about a week but it still not available in the shop on the website.
Posted by Nanu
It is in the business shop!
Posted by Nanu
£42.90 on a 12month contract with free phone, blackberry internet, 300mins and 50texts
Posted by jcwhite_uk
On 2008-11-04 00:28:22, Nanu wrote:
£42.90 on a 12month contract with free phone, blackberry internet, 300mins and 50texts
I got the Bold cheaper than that (although on a 18 month tariff).
Must admit that i didnt look at the business part.