Posted by bavlondon2
Shame about the lack of mem card slot.
Posted by Daedalus85
I dunno about saying it's nothing they've done before, the Pearl and Curve were a bit like that really, the Pearl especially.
This just seems like a progressive upgrade rather than an overhaul of the brand or anything. It's still got the same layout, still has GPS and WiFi, still does e-mails very well.
Yes they've added 1GB memory, but if Nokia can do 8GB on their other phones this is hardly record breaking.
Don't get me wrong, it's really nice, and a good upgrade from my Curve in 9 months or so, but it's not 'ground breaking' really, hence why I can't see why their seperating it from the rest of the branding.
Posted by fatreg
it does have a mem card slot bav....
it's os 4.6 and combines everything that has been in seperate devices before, also it's the first HSDPA handset by RIM...
I don't really care what it's called, I'll be getting one pretty pronto after release!
Posted by londonlad123
I take it 13 days standby a typical bb affair? Its got everything covered well. Anyway to get the full youtube on there?
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
I really can't understand how anyone can say this isn't anything new as unless i am very much mistaken.
It has a new and improved OS 4.6
A new processor @624mghz
1GB on board memory and support for SDHC up to 16GB
Multi band UMTS & HSDPA support
A brand new screen @480x320
Improved GPS and Maps
Improved Multimedia functionality
All of which IMO moves it to the next level compared to previous offerings and it is a great looking device to IMO. Previously i had found BB's lacking in some area's this new Bold seems to address all those issues.
Marc
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Posted by themarques
What really is a shame is the size, I mean for what it does and its size you would expect more like someone pointed out earlier if Nokia can jam 16Gb, 1Gb is no breakthrough.
I do hope they start to allow the saving of doc files natively to the memory card as this is quite annoying and I hate having to spend more money on purchasing 3rd party apps.
All in its good to see, as it means the phone will work in Japan so a bit of a blessing in disguise. Though I am still waiting to see the N96 I will be ordering one as soon as its out.
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2008-05-12 22:28:23, fatreg wrote:
it does have a mem card slot bav....
it's os 4.6 and combines everything that has been in seperate devices before, also it's the first HSDPA handset by RIM...
I don't really care what it's called, I'll be getting one pretty pronto after release!
Have you got a link to that info?
One the crackberry review i saw it said it only has like under 100mb internal.
Oops i just read Dogmans part. Thank god it has a mem card slot!!! Now im really interested in this.
Can someone tell me if -
1) You can get delivery reports on SMS
2) Does bluetooth allow for file transfer ect....ie not crippled like iphone.
Also whats the screen size? 2.3 inches?
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-05-13 09:06 ]
Posted by deepsme
If anyone here is interested...
Windows Live is coming to Blackberry
Posted by bavlondon2
Fantastic news!!!!! I was just going to ask I hope there is some sort of Windows Live Messenger on the horizon!!!! Im actually really thinking about getting this now.
Can any existing BB owners tell me if you can have SMS delivery reports?
And what will web surfing be like on this?
Finally will 9000 allow playback of 3GP videos ecoded at H264 or even H264 in mp4? Im seriously considering getting one of these things.
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2008-05-13 09:36 ]
Posted by BobaFett
does bb support tomtom? thx
Posted by mutleyboy
newb bb question here, im considering getting a cheap curve.
Are pin messages free to anywhere in the world or just to users in the same country as you?
Cheers
Posted by lovewalrus
No tom tom isn't supported-yet, yes you do get delivery reports (little d letter appears next to sent messages) and web browsing is ok, but not great (however using Opera mini it's as quick if not quicker and better quality than my N95 using HSDPA). I've been using blackberry's for years and they are the most reliable handset 3lve ever used with not one going wrong! Oh, PIN messaging can be used between any BlackBerry anywhere in the world (inc P2P file transfers)! :o)
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Posted by Prom1
On 2008-05-12 18:29:18, fatreg wrote:
^ why can't it be the model number? they can then at a later date do a 9010 or so....
Exactly, the 8700 & the 8800 both started that way.
On 2008-05-12 22:20:52, Daedalus85 wrote:
I dunno about saying it's nothing they've done before, the Pearl and Curve were a bit like that really, the Pearl especially.
This just seems like a progressive upgrade rather than an overhaul of the brand or anything. It's still got the same layout, still has GPS and WiFi, still does e-mails very well.
Yes they've added 1GB memory, but if Nokia can do 8GB on their other phones this is hardly record breaking.
Don't get me wrong, it's really nice, and a good upgrade from my Curve in 9 months or so, but it's not 'ground breaking' really, hence why I can't see why their seperating it from the rest of the branding.
First off why does EVERYONE compare hardware & markets from differing manufacturers as the same? Nokia has specific devices to compete with the Blackberry.
Daedalus85, you may or may not have a BB, but I think you're from a consumer perspective/less informed corporate user. You fail to see many things of RIM & BlackBerry.
* Security, Efficiency, and extensibility is TOP priority; along with speed as well.
* Nokia has NOT made 8GB in the E61/E62/E62i or E50/E51i models. The N81, N95 with 8GB imbedded options BOTH do NOT allow expandable memory, the N96 with 16GB does. But i'd rather have expandable flash in today's technology since currently imbedded flash on phones is NOT faster than MicroSD speeds - and at 8GB or higher costs WAY too much. Nokia is a worldwide MASS market manufacturer with various production warehouses. RIM only has 1 location to manufacture their phones ... Ontario, Canada. Texas USA goes live soon.
THe brand HAS been overhauled.
* No other model offers WiFi, GPS, and camera & imbedded memory in 1 device! Thats the Curve & 8820 rolled into one & much more.
* MUCH faster cpu; applications & radio on one die; the Xscale they've used for the past 3yrs was already 1yr old when they got locked into that contract with Intel before the sale of that chip design occured.
* The OS is completely overhauled: HTML Email is imbedded (3rd party apps offerd this prior, only the newer 8130's have this but not supported in BIS/BES currently - BES 4.1.4 has it but its turned off and not stable nor does it work properly).
* Organization of Network diagnostics (WiFi or Network) is MUCH easier & faster to get to from main screen. Great for TS.
* Ability to turn off 3G.
* Oh sorry 3G is there ... use your phone as a modem and STILL get your emails, make phone calls. Do the same directly on your BB. Send or receive/emails, make appointments while on conference call (voice), or do it over VoIP/UMA, in the USA, Europe, Asia, South America ... no limits man THAT is HUGE! This was a BIG hammer that WM had over BLackberrys.
BTW, @ Walrus, if you're on BES ... be careful with p2p over PIN. PIN's can be logged & tracked on the BES since v4.1. But you ARE correct BB's are SOLID, rarely hardware issues and quick TS is easy to find that. Firmware upgrades or downgrades are VERY quick and ALWAYS supported at RIM/provider! BEST in the business.
I feel like a total FOOL for leaving my BB contract. But when this 9000 comes around bye bye K850i ... that'll be my backup phone for sports & vacationing.
* Watching CNBC channel today pissed me off. I HATE UNINFORMED analyst, trying to sound like their in the know. Some lady was saying a new company was making software & trying to get contracts to have their software inbedded into regular cellphones - users worried about lost phones and data being easily hacked from memory cards, since 80% of US employees use personal cellphones. She mentioned that she carry's a BB & a regular cellphone but didn't say why, NOR did she know that on the 8100/8300/8800 series models (all the models with MicroSD card support) that those cards CAN be encrypted NOT just at the corporate level but Also the USER level. Pissed me off, because she didn't do her research properly.
Posted by bavlondon2
Im a bit anxious to be taking the plunge to buying a BB but I really like this phone. Do all of you have one due to work or have you gone out and bought one for personal use?
Posted by j0be
bavlondon - I have had all manner of phones, nokia, SE, Samsung, Iphone and I can honestly say my BB is the best thing I have had. Mine is my personal one, I run a windows phone for work but the BB wins hands down. Take the plunge, you wont regret it........!
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Bav,
The only thing that kept me away from BB's was the lack of 3G/HSDPA and Wifi all on one device, with the Bold all these issues have been addressed and then some.
From what i have read and someone correct me if I'm wrong you can use a BB for personal E-Mail it doesn't have to be just corporate E-Mail running on a company server.
I will definitely be looking into either the Bold or maybe even the new Touchscreen BB which will be a Voda exclusive before deciding which one suits me best. But these two devices i find far more interesting than anything else so far announced by a long way.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-14 10:49 ]
Posted by bavlondon2
Glad to hear im not the only phone regular guy thinking of taking the plunge Dogman.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Bav,
You know what they say though once you go Crackberry you never go back to anything else!. I must admit the video of the Bold even though it isn't a final release firmware looks mighty impressive no lag or or freezes or delays that i could see. Not sure the Touchscreen version is really for me or not but comparing both the Bold and Touch screen versions with recently announced devices from other manufactures these really impress a lot more IMO.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-14 11:45 ]
Posted by bavlondon2
Ha ha yeah I have heard many say that.
I like the idea of a touch screen one but im heavy on message so i need proper tactile keys. The Bold looks awesome in theis respect. Dont get me wrong i love my ipod touch but this seems to tick all my boxes.
I just registered over at crackberry aswell. You should too! I laid a few questions out I have i the hope Kevin can answer them.
But yeah as you say the OS looks amazing. I have always been semi tempted in the past but little things like WIFI and a camera have always held me back, not any more though.
Looks like I will have to take out a BB data plan when I get one of these but I dont mind spending a bit extra as I will have unlimited email and data so play with. Ive always wanted push email but my phones in the past just didnt have the battery to cope.
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Posted by Prom1
Well the BOLD is getting GOOD support for Admins.
I know Tmagberry is LOVING this news...
http://www.rovemobile.com/new[....]2008-05-12_rove_goes_bold.aspx
Rove Mobile already on the verge of offering support for it ... its not even shipping in mass yet!
Tmag, you've been a bit quite lately, are you already testing one?! Common dude fill us in on the juicy details!
Posted by tmagberry
I am around just extremely busy reviewing stuff
Havent been around very much.
The BOLD is very nice and there are lots of new quirky changes.
I have got the 9000 Precision Theme if anyone wants it.....
Posted by Prom1
On 2008-05-14 16:22:47, tmagberry wrote:
I am around just extremely busy reviewing stuff
Havent been around very much.
The BOLD is very nice and there are lots of new quirky changes.
I have got the 9000 Precision Theme if anyone wants it.....
Glad to hear business is on the up & up!
I'd LOVE to have the Precision Themes, please. You can email it/them to me when you get the time at diesel2@gmail.com; thanks in advance.
I'll have a new berry middle of next month or sooner I just cannot wait that long.
Posted by lovewalrus
@ tmagberry get up fells, could you mail me a copy of the precision theme as well? As the copy I got doesn't display right for some reason_after I tinkered with it! Ha
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Posted by Dogmann
Hi Bav and all,
I have already registered at Crackberry.com i thought that was compulsory to own a BB. I have even found 4 apps i want to buy just got to wait for the Bold to be available now as i am 99.9% certain it will be my next device.
Am i the only one that keeps getting flashes of Star Trek as i am waiting to boldly go where i haven't been before. LOL.
Marc
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Posted by bavlondon2
Ha ha I was a closet Star Trek fan but only the original ones I hated the newer series'.
Also yeah I saw you on CB earlier. What apps have you seen mate? I havent even looked at apps to be honest.
Posted by j0be
Crackberry is a great forum, everyone really friendly and helpful
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Bav,
Nothing earth shattering so far but,
BBSmart Alarms Pro
EmPower instaspell
SnapScreen
MWallet
Just need to wait for the Bold to hit and then try and sort out the best deal as Voda aren't showing any of the new tariffs as yet for BB's. So not sure if i will stay on my current tariff with 500mb Data and have to add £15 for BB mail which will suck IMO. As i will find it hard to pay £180 per Year just for push E-Mail when i currently have it for free and even when the Seven Beta program ends it is still only £65 per year. 02 have a £15pm Data only deal but their 3G/HSDPA speeds make it pointless IMO.
If i can get it on Voda for £35pm or less it's not a problem with unlimited E-Mail and a reasonable Browsing allowance otherwise it will need a rethink on my part.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-15 16:28 ]
Posted by bavlondon2
BB Tarrifs start from £37:50 on Orange from e2save.
http://www.e2save.com/contrac[....]ckberry-8310-Curve-Grey/8310GR
It says unlimited data so im assuming thats surfing and push email right?
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Bav,
Sorry but after having to threaten the Legal department at Orange with a summons to get a situation resolved with my P910 it will be a cold day in hell before i ever have an Orange contract.
Even if Voda are not the cheapest they currently offer the best HSDPA speeds and since last November i have found they give a really good service so will most probably stick with them. As although the last two contracts with them where just to get the N93 and N95 8GB early they are now my only contract and Network of choice.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-15 19:28 ]
Posted by tmagberry
Dogmann and Bav,
If you guys are really looking to go down the BB route, then you should look at 02 for the tariffs or even T-Mobile. I dont know what they are like for generic phoned but on the BB Data they are by far the best.
Support sadly is poor generally for BB in the UK but you might as well go for the best thats available.
Marc, as for the Empower spell, BBs have built in spell check from the Curve BB and newer. You might not need it....
As you are well aware, there is plenty of help available but if you have more specific questions you can pm me.
Posted by lovewalrus
Just on the price point, T-Mobile now offer web b walk and blackberry service for only £10, that's unlimited web (1GB fair use policy) and unlimited blackberry. This price applies to all Flext' Combi and Solo packages! Me :o)
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Posted by tmagberry
On 2008-05-15 21:17:11, lovewalrus wrote:
Just on the price point, T-Mobile now offer web b walk and blackberry service for only £10, that's unlimited web (1GB fair use policy) and unlimited blackberry. This price applies to all Flext' Combi and Solo packages! Me
)
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Also wasnt ignoring you....the 9000 theme has gone down ....
Posted by voda_jon
hi everyone check ma sale....
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=169974
Decided to get rid of the BB for now as i dont need it...
Brilliant devices though...
J.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Tmag
Yes i have realised about the spell checker as i have started to learn about what the Bold will offer so that saves me $5.
@all
I also realise that 02 do have the best price plans but there speeds currently suck which defeats the purpose of having HSDPA. T-Mobiles speeds are also not as good either as i said once it is available i will of course see which Network offers the best value for the money but i would rather pay a little more and get full speed HSDPA then slightly less and get a reduced speed service but that's just my priorities and what suits me best.
But right now as i said i am 99.9% sure my next device will be the Bold and will even risk getting hit by customs again for a nice Vaja case for it.
Marc
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Posted by tmagberry
I agree Marc, however my only concern is Voda is not value for money for data.
I like you would pay extra for something i need. In my case...unlimited data over speed
Might be worth testing out a Curve prior to the BOLD. If you going to amke the jump anyway...
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Tmag,
I had thought about it but the Bold is so close i really can't see the point, once the Bold is available i will speak to Voda though as there recent price changes have been good.
Currently i spend £35pm for 500 mins 120texts and 500mb of Data so if i can drop to £20 pm tariff with less minutes and texts but BIS E-Mail and 500mb of Data that will be good enough for my needs.
But 384kbps on 02 just is not worth it how ever cheap it may be and T-Mobile would need a Web N Walk and BB mail add ons plus a Felxt package so i think would still work out more than Voda. As i said i am really happy with the Voda service and customer care and if they can match or get close to the others prices will stick with them.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-15 23:19 ]
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Well i just checked the VodaFone site and have found i can add Blackberry Internet and E-Mail for £5 or £10 if i don't already have a the Web bolt on which i actually think my plan includes. More details can be found here
http://online.vodafone.co.uk:[....]abel=template08&pageID=ME_0003
No my only question is do Voda mess with the devices firmware or not? and if they do from what i have read it shouldn't be to difficult to flash a generic firmware to it is that correct? and advisable.
Marc
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Posted by lovewalrus
All manufacturers out there own themes on, but don't mess the branding up at all-i actually gate to admit this, but the Voda theme is quiye nice! Reflashin BB's is a sinch and it's easy to upgrade your firmware at the same time by borrowing other networks as they release them-usually AT&T are the quickest for updates and are solid!
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Posted by bavlondon2
But if they dont mess with the firmware then there should be no need to flash it right?
Is that definate that they dont do that? I checked with Orange and they can add on a BB internet bundle for £8 which includes unlimited internet and data.
Posted by tmagberry
The upgrading of OS is actually only really for preference. They only iron out small bugs and on any OS for any network, you can unlcok the vendor themes which means you can have the same as everyone else.
I currently use the TIM Italy OS on my 8310 but have used many different OS.
I think its fair to say that BBs are pretty indestructable as far as upgrading etc.
The only concern for when the Bold comes out is that not many network will carry them initially and therefore there will only be one or two different OS that be used, but i doubt you would want to change it anyway.
Posted by tmagberry
Looks like someone has got themselves a BOLD.
But its not me
Posted by bavlondon2
Is that Kevins maybe?
Anyway it looks lush.
Posted by fatreg
Apparently it's someone who is dating Jennifer Anniston..
Or so Tbag tells me...
Posted by bavlondon2
John Mayor or someone I think his name is.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all
I believe his is John Bayer and his Tours are sponsored by Rim apparently he was also one of the first to have a Pearl to. I spoke to a supplier of Sim Free BB's toady and they are expecting the Bold in June wouldn't say when it June though with a price of £400+. So depending on when VodaFone get them i may well buy a Sim Free version and then use my upgrade for a P5 and sell that instead.
Marc
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Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Well Expansys now have a price for the Bold a truly outrageous £544.95 not that it surprises me as their prices are always high on pre launch devices. I hope as usual they are way off the mark.
Does anyone think it is likely we will be able to buy Sim Free units from the US or Canada that will work in the UK? as i would imagine even with shipping and custom charges that would work out cheaper.
I really want one as soon as i can get it and patience is not a virtue i am blessed with.
Marc
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Posted by bavlondon2
Expansys is always expensive.
I think I will be getting mine on a new contract or upgrade so hopefully it should be free when the time comes around.
Posted by lovewalrus
Here you go guys, something to have a look at www.blackberry.com/instantmessaging haven't been able download AOL or MSN as yet as keep gettin fatal error messages, but as soon as I do, I'll let you all know-unless someone beats me to it, in which case let me know how!
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Posted by tmagberry
On 2008-05-16 22:41:30, lovewalrus wrote:
Here you go guys, something to have a look at www.blackberry.com/instantmessaging haven't been able download AOL or MSN as yet as keep gettin fatal error messages, but as soon as I do, I'll let you all know-unless someone beats me to it, in which case let me know how!
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Try mobile.blackberry.com from your BB browser?
Posted by bavlondon2
Hopefully when that WL launches it will be a proper app. I dont like webapps not least for security.