Posted by pinkypinky
Hello,
Is that possible to make some changes in firmware which will allow k750i to play 220x176 movies in fullscreen mode...?! It's a great shame for now the limits are 176x144.. in fullscr it looks really crappy.. any ideas?
greets
P
Posted by tranced
no i dont think so
Posted by Bambino
Im afraid it cannot. coz limitation by 3gp format standarization. the available res for 3gp: 176x144 & 352x288
for mp4: 176x144, 320x240, 352x288, 480x320 & 640x480
but unfortunately k750i only support 176x144. while newer
model support up to 352x288
Posted by pinkypinky
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it's so strange that we can do almost everything with that phone.. and nothing can be done with that issue..
well, I just have to wait for k800 than... for now it's still quite expensive..
cheers
P
Posted by imachine
hello,
it might however be possible to play these media fullscreen, just like the 'sony demo' proggy does - as long as you maintain the file in phone memory (so that limits it's size somewhat) and name it 'Demo Tour' and put it into 'Videos' folder. Just run the Demo Tour program later from 'Entertainment', i'd reckon it only checks for a file name and location (as long as it's in the phone memory it ought work fine).
This isn't tested (yet
) but it might just work - at least it will remove the nasty black crops from the film you're about to watch, another thing is the proggy just might also be able to scale films down a notch, hence 352x288 films could look a lot better then (well, look at all actually, since I tried uploading one like that, the phone would register it as video, but it was unable to show it on it's screen).
Cheers!
Edit:
Ok, so as I suspected the app is simple enough (and/or cool enough with its' simplicity) to play any file named Demo Tour.mp4 as long as it's placed inside 'Videos' in phone memory and it's possible to play it by the phone's codecs, so video encoded with either mpeg4 or h263 (3gp) and either aac or amr_nb audio (tho not tested with aac, it would seem logical it works, since the original file is coded aac, comparison between files below).
There is not a possibility of scaling the films down unfortunately, and since only h263p (plus) is capable of encoding with different sizes (like say 176x220 which is the k750i's resolution) even tho the movie is playable on my pc, it won't show up on the phone.
Here go the data:
Encoding a xvid file into my file...
Input #0, avi, from 'xxx.avi':
Duration: 00:01:06.8, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1143 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 512x368, 29.98 fps(r)
Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 112 kb/s
Output #0, 3gp, to 'xxx.3gp':
Stream #0.0: Video: h263, yuv420p, 176x144, q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 25.00 fps(c)
Stream #0.1: Audio: amr_nb, 8000 Hz, mono, 32 kb/s
And my file vs original SE 'Demo Tour.mp4'
Original:
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Demo Toura.mp4':
Duration: 00:01:16.9, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 217 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng): Audio: aac, 32000 Hz, stereo
Stream #0.1(eng): Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 176x144, 15.00 fps(r)
Mine:
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Demo Tour.mp4':
Duration: 00:01:06.9, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 236 kb/s
Stream #0.0(und): Video: h263, yuv420p, 176x144, 25.00 fps(r)
Stream #0.1(und): Audio: amr_nb, 8000 Hz, mono
Cheers! and happy testing
ps. it's not that much of a gain anyway tbh, the films show slight pixelazation on fullscreen and the battery prolly gets munched up quicker as well due to higher screen usage, so it's all mostly just for the jokes. enjoy nonetheless
[ This Message was edited by: imachine on 2007-02-05 16:42 ]
Posted by _-livio-_
v630 can even play 320x240 mp4 files,and the screen is allmost the same as k750/w800 so it should be possible to make it play higher resolution video.on my w810 if i try to play any video other than 176x144 it just shows a dark brown screen but the audio works fine,you can hear the movie
[ This Message was edited by: _-livio-_ on 2007-02-05 19:13 ]
Posted by imachine
As I said before, it's a matter of scaling down the video - an external java media player might be well capable of doing so - it's not too hard prolly (I'm not a java dev so then again I can't be certain, but the codecs are there so it's hardly rocket science to make use of them
) and the 'Demo Tour' app proves that scaling is well in the phone's range of abilities.
I do get the same as you mentioned with higher res, both thru my little 'hack' and thru normal media player.
Cheers
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Posted by antichrist
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tell me a phone that support 352*288 video playback.
to play a 352*288 video YOU NEED A 352*288 SCREEN, otherwise, it will be SCALED!!!
btw, .mp4 supports any resolution, including 320*136
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Posted by _-livio-_
scaled to which resolution?'cause it would be great if the phones would play 176x220 videos,it would be cristal clear quality on fullscreen
Posted by imachine
scaling down is not (ought not be) a problem; scaling up causes pixelization and nastiness we'd all rather avoid,
cheers.
Posted by jumpjump
Allow k750i to play 220x176 movies in fullscreen mode, the only way is to convert your movie file formt such as avi, mpeg,wmv to mp4 format using 3gp video converter,
http://www.my-video-converter.com/video_to_3gp/
make use of it, you can Crop Video to specify the size you want to crop the video as you like when you converting,you can view below for the size,(Drag the dashed frame to specify the cropped video size
)
http://www.my-video-converter[....]line_help/Cropping%20Video.htm
hope to help you,
[ This Message was edited by: jumpjump on 2007-02-07 09:44 ]
Posted by imachine
I don't find that possible, unless you can back it up by experience, tho you'd be standing ground against mine, since I tried a mp4 film with x220 res and it wouldn't play (same as other films with higher res - brown screen and audio only).
Cheers!
Posted by jumpjump
Do you have tried, I tried my friend's v630 with 3gp video converter,convert avi to 3gpp/mp4, even can play 320x240 mp4, specify the size i required,why not you?
Posted by c_vignesh
I have used Super to convert a video to play @ 220x176 mp4
http://www.erightsoft.com/Superdt.html
to play in a w550i ...but the file didnt play
Posted by _-livio-_
v630 can play 320x240 resolution video,but k750/w800 and w810 just won't.anyone know how to extract those settings from the v630 firmware and upload them to our phones?
Posted by danielturcu
I found a site were are movies with resolution 220*174, 15 fps for k750, w800... I don't beleave it's work anyone tried whit this resolutin 220*174? I didn't find a converter with this reolution!!
Posted by danielturcu
http://www.mininova.org/tor/203660
Posted by _-livio-_
daniel,look for imtoo movie converter,it can convert to any desired rezolution as long as it's mp4,3gp can't be converted to this size because it's not a standard
Posted by danielturcu
If the W700 suport 220*176 quality movies we can flash our k750, w800 with this firmware and then this problem will be fixed. Anywone have a w700 mobile phone???
Posted by 392MHz
Use Nero Recode for converting to mp4. Many settings, and really good.
Posted by imachine
or ffmpeg under linux (maybe it works under win too, I don't know), my recommendations.
cheers.
Posted by danielturcu
Hey i think we can put S-E v630 camera driver on our k750/w800/d750 if we have it whit Far Manager file system! I think it work!? V630 suport movies up to resolution of 320x240 pixels...Anyone have a v630 mobile phone?
Posted by whatsucka
that will b great!! my w800 record vid sux, i think k800 do a little better job