Posted by Lambalisa
When I ran SEUS it said there was an update for my K800i. I have been checking for updates like every week or so, and this is the first time in like 2 months that there has been an update. So I assume I have the 2nd latest firmware on my K800i. My questions are: Is it worth upgrading the firmware? Will I lose my personal files on the phone like pics, mms, msm and so on? And where can I find a list with updates/fixes for the new firmware?
Thanks.
Posted by tranced
yes, you will loose everything. you can get more info about k800's firmware here: K800 Firmware Overview
Posted by >500
i never lost any data from my phones when i updated via seus...
Posted by tranced
sorry, i didnt know SEUS kept your info.
Posted by Neo-Tech
Why dont you try upgrading and tell us what firmware you now have and what has been improved?
Posted by se-fan
You won´t loose any info its just the smartphone that loose all their data!
Posted by aremaboy
It must be R1GB001. There may be next f/w on April. Usually every 2-3 months SE releases a new update. May be.
Posted by Lambalisa
So SE don't have a site with a firmware fixes/updates list? I can't find it at SE's official site. And is it a bad thing that if I upgrade my phone will be CID51?
Posted by Lambalisa
MY current firmware is:
CXC1250210
R1ED001
060831
Posted by croatia
prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_WI R1ED001 EROM:R3A016 prgCXC1250461_EROM_D82020_WILMA_FOTA_SIMLOCK_FLAFLA_SIBLEY_SEMCUSB LCD 200608251 CAMERA 2.5 VIDEOCALL CAMERA2.3 ITP CXC 125 0310 R2N CDA10250490 R1ED001 S_E_EUROPE .... PA24 JAVA JP-7.1 BA 060831 Sony Ericsson
Posted by Lambalisa
And in english?
Posted by Lambalisa
Is it really a BIG secret was has been improved in SE new firmware for K800i???
Posted by glorfingal
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R1GB001 is the latest we know of .... yours is a little old !!!
Posted by Lambalisa
And what have been improved/fixed since my version? Is there an OFFICIAL list with improvements/fixes for the latest firmware? If not, why is SE hiding it?
Posted by jepherberich
There's none. They dont hide it; they just don't release an official listing of changes in new firmware. It's an avenue for bad press, I guess.
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Posted by Lambalisa
Hmmm ok acording to http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=124349 there isn't really any noticeable improvements.
If I upgrade via SEUS my phone will be CID 51 instead of CID 49 as it is now. Is that a bad thing?
Posted by hanugro
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Check your EROM version. If you got R3A011 or R3A013 (some said this exist but I am not sure) then you may want to upgrade to EROM ver R3A016 first before upgrading with SEUS. Kulan, wotan, and DVT can do it for free.
EROM CID51 loader (certificate) has not exist outside SE. So in case your phone has WSOD that need EROM update then you can't do it unless you bring your phone to authorised SE. Also you can't customized your phone yet with PhoneXS (if you are brave enough) with EROM CID51. And finally you can't downgrade firmware, ever, when you have EROM CID51. Not even using third party like kulan, wotan, or DVT. You can only use R1GB or newer (when available)!
Posted by hanugro
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Edit: wotan has released R1ED CID51 so you may downgrade firmware to R1ED now!
[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-01-23 00:33 ]
Posted by A L 3 X
well i have debranded using wotan and have heard ppl complaining how they cant use SEUS after debranding cos of there CDA is wrong, just wanted to chekc mine will be ok to get newest generic upgrade from SEUS:
R1GB001
prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_WI R1GB001
customization
CDA102511/2 R4A
cxc1250490 R1GB001
1E0W
EUROPE_2
memory stick: no file found
Posted by Neo-Tech
@glorfingal
I am using the same firmware as Lambalisi. When I try to update with SEUS it says i am up to date. And you guys say am not.
Is there a way I can upgrade to RGB001 or whatever.
I have the O2 Branding
Posted by A L 3 X
i think you will have to debrand first
Posted by Lambalisa
Hmmm I don't know too much about EROM/CID. Can some just answer me if I should bother to upgrade my phone or not....like is it worth it. What improvements will I get and so on.
Posted by Lambalisa
...oh forgot to mention that my phone is unbranded.
Posted by vanity
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what is PHoneXs?? waht customization i can do with my k800i. this is excitieng
Posted by hanugro
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Before getting to excited, it took 5hr (average) to change ANYTHING from DB2020 CID49 with phoneXS. CID51 is not supported yet. If you are ready go to:
http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=6118
http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=5797
Posted by glorfingal
@mechanic - mine was done via wotan so it didn't get the
seus erom cid51 update .....
Posted by Lambalisa
Ok I assume that there is no point in upgrading to the latest firmware...
Posted by glorfingal
and wait for it ..... R1JC002 appears to have been released - just saw it
on wotan !!!!
Posted by Lambalisa
What is wotan?
Posted by vanity
@hanaguro
wahhh... iv read it already... five hours is so long...
even the file uploading customizing will take 5hours?.. thats oohh oh oh..
--
anyways i want to consult about my new problem, seems no one is answerting my question on other thread..
just want to know if this is a known bug of my r1GB APAC
-i always encounter 3duplicate and sometimes 4duplicate message.
once i deleted/read one of them the others will also be deleted/read
-corrupted message also
-different sender name from phonebook instead of the real sender
-this just happened yesterday the internet button will trigger a whitescreen and restart. also on my bookmarks
@hanaguro
please advise!
-also want to know does a master reset will help? what does it do? does it only reset every settings? or it is some kind of restoring something like new from factory and involves software restore.. hmmm
thanks thanks... hope a new firmware will come to SEUS cause i cant reflash my fone if no new software available
help
Posted by aremaboy
@vanity:
Mine is also R1GB APAC, but none of your problems is present. I don't have multiple messages, no corrupted messages, no white screen when using internet. I updated via SEUS and my EROM is R3A011, the old one.
Posted by vanity
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thanks hearing info from you.. would you have any advise for my fone? im very annoyed with my fone
.. do you think i need a master reset? and also do a master reset before flashing from SEUS?.. m waiting for the new firmware so i could reflash it..
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Like Aremaboy said mine seems do not have problems. Well you can try master reset but your contacts, apps, games can be gone, so backup first. See if it helps your problem.
I would do this step in order until it is fixed:
1. Master Reset
2. Update again from SEUS (use update anyway option)
3. If you willing to pay use third party (wotan/kulan) as it more thorough rewrite of firmware. Otherwise skip to option 4 below.
4. If all can't fix it, you have to send it back to SE authorised service centre for full reflash (GDFS, EROM, MAIN, and FS - updating through SEUS only update part of FS and MAIN). No one can fixed GDFS corrupt (it must be fixed by GDFS backup from the phone itself OR by SE.
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Posted by hanugro
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Only finalization part that take 5hr average. The flashing firmware itself is very fast (only few minutes).
Problem is, seems that even small change need finalization before the phone can work. Otherwise it will show configuration error contact operator message on startup.
Posted by vanity
@hanaguro
4. If all can't fix it, you have to send it back to SE authorised service centre for full reflash (GDFS, EROM, MAIN, and FS - updating through SEUS only update part of FS and MAIN). No one can fixed GDFS corrupt (it must be fixed by GDFS backup from the phone itself OR by SE.
-- hmmm i think my EROM version was updated when i update to R1GB.. R3A016... i not sure with this because i had my fone repaired at SE center to version R1ED prior updating to SEUS.. does r1ed comes with r3a016??
--thanks for the advise i will just bring this to center when the the r1j comes out to SEUS...
--will i be able to reflash this to SEUS ? when i still have the r1g?? i want to try it tomorrow..
thanks a lot... i hate my fone now!!! the *internal speaker doesnt work anymore when calling.. i just use the loud speaker option..
Posted by hanugro
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I guess it is a mix for EROM version. SEUS will not update EROM even though you got older R3A011. When I bought k800 my firmware is R1CB and EROM is R3A011. I update it for free using kulan client before updating using SEUS to R1GB. My wife Z610 come with R1ED and EROM R3A016 (I bought it in Singapore though). I f you are still under warranty and don't mind without your phone for few days then bring it back to authorised service centre.
Posted by Lambalisa
If I upgrade via SEUS will my phone be CID 51 instead of CID 49 as it is now? If yes, is that a bad thing?
Hmmm I don't know too much about EROM/CID. Can some just answer me if I should bother to upgrade my phone or not....like is it worth it. What improvements will I get and so on.
MY current firmware is:
CXC1250210
R1ED001
060831
Posted by aremaboy
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You should read K800i Firmware Overview thread thouroughly. It's all there. My f/w now is R1JC002, updated via Wotan Server and it's fabulous.
Posted by Lambalisa
Well ok I can see what improvements are there in the firmware overview. However I can't see what the difference between CID 49 and 51 is. And I don't see if I should update my phone via SEUS or not. I mean do I risk to just get more bugs on my phone with the latest firmware from SEUS. My phone is originally unbranded, so there should be no problem upgrading technically.
What I think about is like the PSP where you should NOT upgrade to firmware over 1.70 (or whatever it is). Like will the SE upgrade mainly just "protect" the possibility to use other 3th party upgrading software and so on....
Posted by aremaboy
Whether it's CID 49 or 51, it's just a matter of security. SE hates that many modders out there 'mod' the products against the white papers. Just update your phone and feel the improvement.
Posted by hanugro
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Well you need to update to CID51 if you want to install newer firmware. So you don't have a choice in CID. Also SEUS will only install latest firmware so again you don't have a choice about the EROM CID. Unless you are willing to use third party flashing!
Still if you are satisfied with your current firmware then don't upgrade at all. If you have something that does not work then you upgrade.
Posted by Neo-Tech
I wish I got a free Wotan Credit to try all this. I cant use Wotan without using a Credit Card or some other card.
I wish I had R1GB001 or R1JC001
Posted by Neo-Tech
Lambalisa why don't you just update. All its going to do is to make it better
Posted by Lambalisa
Yes maybe I should just go ahead with the SE update. Just got a feeling that I shouldn't. Can some please convince me to get the SE update - or that I should leave it.
Posted by ratei
R1JG001 is the new firmware for K800 from SEUS (not R1JC002).
Anyone upgraded to this firmware? I'm experiencing some new bugs.
Posted by keight00i
my unbranded phone went from R1CB to R1ED to R1GB... all done using SEUS... so far the only problems i had with R1ED was the appearance of strange menu texts and that something regarding the old EROM conflict with java apps because SEUS failed to upgrade my R3A011 to 16 (solved by reflashing via my local SE service ctr).... With my current R1GB setup, the only noticeable bug is the occasional appearance of "ERROR: E1" text...
but generally, my k800i black is still in good working condition to this day
@Lambalisa
Regardless of what program you use to upgrade your phone, a newer firmware for the K800i is still , by far, a better option than not doing the upgrade at all... newer features, less fatal bugs i guess
Posted by Neo-Tech
Just update and stop complaining. There are 3 pages of you. Sorry for being angry
Posted by Lambalisa
@machanic
Really helpful replay. And what am I complaining about?