Posted by swazi
Hi i am hoping to buy a nokia 7210 shortly , not sure if i should what do you think about the phone
Posted by [MDS]
i had it, but sent it back, getting gd87 instead... if you want info go to www.howardforums.com
and check there in nokia's section (if you already havent)
Posted by swazi
so basically you didnt like the phone.
Posted by sunjivas
i've used a m8s one a few times, not impressed at all (apart from that lovely screen of course!)
Posted by Johan
I have one, and i am more then happy ..
According to me its way nicer than the T68 .. more good looking, faster, and better screen.
And the ones who is saying that the T68 has much better features!.. WHAT features?.. bluetooth? .. how often do you use that if you dont have a PDA or Laptop with BT-connection.
Voicedial? .. Well i surely dont use voicedial, cause it so embarrasing. Feels really dumb to stand in public talking to your phone ..
Ive had plenty of phones before with voicedieal, and never used it..
And what about that WONDERFUL screensaverfunction HAHA.. what a joke!
And really!.. How fun is it to watch a picture phonebook full of smurfs.. cause the lack of colors, all pictures turn blue or redish .. and you actually cant see the picture good at all!
Nah.. Id rather stick to functions that i really USE rather than functions i never use, but still brag about.
like SPEED, java, StereoFM radio, way better screen and nicer design
Posted by jr_rca
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do you really actually talk to your phone? so what if someone calls you and you are the streets? that does make you feel dumb?
bluetooth....honestly i didnt use it but im glad t68 have it and just in case i need it, atleast it is there. but if you are happy with 7210 i think it will also make you sad because 7250 is coming. what a waste of money.
Posted by Johan
Its a big difference between saying a name to the phone and look like a fool , or just talking in it..
And i dont feel fooled at all.. the 7250 is an ugly phone where the only differance to the 7210 is more memory and a camera!
Btw: Did YOU feel sad when the T68I came out???
[ This Message was edited by: JOHAN on 2002-11-11 08:59 ]
Posted by ppcrockar
Sure the 7210 has more colors, Java and poly-tones, but that's it in all other areas it looses bigtime to the T68. And what's the use of the 7210 color screen when you can't have your own themes, you don't have a picture phonenbook. Besides if you enhance the pictures in Photoshop before you transfer the pictures to the T68, you get very good looking photos on the T68. I have very nice pictures of most people that use to call me.
And the same old Nokia menus which are really showing it's age. No structure at all in the menus, they are just listing one item at a time. That was good on the old Nokia's but today, with a big color screen it's a big waste.
And we shouldn't even mention the MMS implementation of the 7210. T68 and T300 is way ahead of the 7210 in this area. With the SE phones you see how the MMS will look while editing it.
I think it's more fair to compare the T300 with the 7210. But I think even the T300 beats the 7210. The 7210 has more colors than the T300, but nothing else. The Mophun engine is very nice and fast. It has picture phonebook, much better polyphonic ringtones, you can make your own themes, and the MMS is much better implemented.
Posted by Dr. Snuggles
>> PPCROCKAR
Yes, I agree with you!
I've had my T68 for quite a while and thought that it was time to get a new phone. Then I first bought the T300, and I really liked it.. but so did also my sister.. so she laid her hands on it and whops, it was gone.
I then bought the "brand new fancy" N 7210, but I am really disapointed. The polyphonic ringtones are so far away from the sound of T300 that it can get, the 4096 colour screen is not that very much better than T68/T300, MMS is a really disaster compared to T68/T300, no picture phonebook, no way to change the black text in the "desktop" (i.e the clock, menu and name and operator name) to other colours, the games are a joke compared to T300.
Nokia is actually NOT using the advantage of the colour screen to update the overview of the menus and to have themes or likely.
Another advantage SE has with both T68 and T300 is the opportunity so send/recieve photos and ringsignals between other handsets via IR and/or BT.
Nokia 7210 does NOT!
Posted by Johan
Then again the T300 has very limited gamepossibilities, whilst 7210 has real java! wich makes it possible to use an unlimited number of different applications and games..
And why does everyone say that 7210 doesnt take advantage of the colors? .. there is a way to change menu colors.. and what is the meaning to change the "menu" and "names" button-color?
Then again everyone says that Nokia is still using their same menusystems .. The ONLY difference between the T68 and the 7210 is that the menu-icons is scrolled one by one, sideways on the 7210 .. when you press an icon on the t68.. its still the same old menus!!
About the polyphonic tones on the Nokia .. at first, they are WAY louder than the T300.. wich is a large plus!
And the only reason they sound better than the 7210 is becuase the T300 has more channels and instruments.
Its pretty laughable to compare the T300 with the Nokia 7210 ..
The T300 is by far much larger and heavier than the Nokia ..
The T300 doesnt only look like a babyblue brick.. it really IS one too!
T 300 doesnt have Java, Speakerphone, or FM-radio, and further on its SLOW as hell .. just like the T28, T39, T68 and so on!!
The T300 is a kidsphone.. and a lot of annoying kids will run around with it.. this will not happen with the 7210.. not as much anyways!
Posted by Super G
Go try a 7210 for yourself, and decide
I personally love the 7210:
It's neat (the blue version is beautiful),
fast,
it has a very bright screen,
sharp colors,
FM stereo radio,
Handsfree loudspeaker,
J2ME (there is a mario-like game one can download for free, and many other applications),
screen themes,
wallpaper,
tri-band,
no bluetooth but it has IrDA and a USB port (more than enough!),
poly ringtones (SP Midi i.e. for MMS format) and there are tons of them you can get using wap/internet+PC suite.
GPRS with 2 uplink timeslots (twice as fast as T68i to send something)
No voice dial, but these are useless -to me- Much faster to use the phonebook normally...
I like T68i too, but:
it looks a bit fatty (though the design is nice too), old and common now
It is not customizable (no Java)
No poly ringtone (buh)
Cheap color screen (it is to colors what Lada is to cars
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No FM radio
Though, it still stands competition
and...
You'll need to reflash it 7 times, get it replaced 5 times
Posted by bart
the T68 is still better because of better softwear and interface. the only thing good on the 7210 is the colour screen and some people like the design. just go for the T68 most people here have it and we love it!
Posted by Dr. Snuggles
>> Johan
When coming to looks and design, it's really up to the people themselves to decide if they find a product attractive or not, NOT you!
The 7210 is double the price of T300, but not half the size.
I seems like you take the criticism, and others point of view personally.. Why?
Posted by bart
best phone price/quality is the T300 everybody knows that but i wonder why buy the 7210 when fo about 50€ more you can get the 7250 in a few months. i personnaly like the t68 more its everything i need, afcourse not everyone needs the same things. but don't forget the 7210 costs alot for what you get.
Posted by NetGuy2
I love my 7210!!!!!
The screen is brilliant!! (Sharp, bright,...) (The white is white, not yellow as the T68i)
The sounds are superb!!
The real JAVA!! (I have a Telnet service, E-mail, VNC, Tetris and Pacman)
The Handsfree is a must to have for a phone, once you use it, you will not speak without. (While you're in a quiet place)
The building quality is incredible (Mine Made in Finland)
I think that Nokia made a Very Very good phone!
Long live to The Nokia 7210
NetGuy2
Posted by Johan
I dont take anything personally!
Its just rather tiresome to hear a lot of people saying that Nokia and or the 7210 sucks when most of the people commenting it havnt even seen the phone..
Posted by [MDS]
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Dont you say bad things about LADA. it an example of fine ruusian autoengeneering......
and yes, i did like my 7210...but i like thegd87 wayyyy more.....and i simply love my t68i..so i can't give that up...so i got 2 68s + gd....
Posted by aaronkhoo
johan:
so we'd be correct in saying that you don't mention names in your telephone conversations? besides, unless you are some celebrity, i doubt anyone would be paying enough attention to you to note that you're voice dialing.
and the 'frivalous' features on my T68m? feel free to shell out more money for a Bluetooth-ed Nokia when, slowly but surely, every other electronic device becomes Bluetooth-ed. oh, and your Nokia does not have 'Real' Java. it's a scaled-down version. also, why does your statement imply that the T68-s have 'Fake' Java [whatever that is], when they most certainly don't?
hello. the T300 is MEANT to be a kids phone. how else do you explain the polyphony, 'neoprint' camera & interchangable faceplates. [to capture the (bleuagh) Nokia market, no doubt]. it's a brick so that it's cheap. that's called bringing colour to the masses. not everyone can afford a 7210 or even a T68.
no, polyphony is by no means an advantage over monophony. the reason why i bought a T68m instead of holding on for a polyphonic device. i tried out my aunt's 7650 for a week, and i was not impressed by the endless missed calls while i was watching TV or doing anything more than mantaining silence. polyphonic ringtones are almost impossible to hear over anything more than normal speaking volume, let alone from the next room. i imagine the polyphony would be drowned out by the 'oohs' and 'ahhs' from the people 'wow-ing' over it.
and, please, enough with the FM radios already. most people who need/want one already do. so they now have one in their phone. yippie. don't start with the convienience issue. if you can't pack an extra device into what you're already bringing out with you, then leave it at home. who needs a set of earphones to cramp their style?
and i can't blame Nokia for sticking to their age-old interface. if they move up to anything more complex, they'll lose more than half their customers. there's a reason why Nokias are so idiot-proof, and that lies in their customer base.
and though i agree the 7250 is a horrendous monstrosity, you seriously gave up the offer of a camera and more memory for 50 euros?
oh, and, no, i didn't feel sad when the T68i came out, cause i easily obtained a software upgrade to it for S$12 [plus a CD and user guide]. and if i need the [rather superfical] outer casing to reflect the upgrade, i can have it changed for roughly S$50. S$62 for a brand-new phone. not bad, eh?
now, for super g:
i have to agree with you about the blue 7210. it's the least offensive one. why? because the 7210 has a blue keypad. in my opinion, it doesn't gel well with any other covers.
oh, yes, it is fast. but which would run faster? Windows 3.11 for Workgroups or Windows XP?
my T68m's light can help me navigate my pitch-black kitchen at midnight. bright enough for you?
what exactly are 'sharp' colours?
again, don't get me started on built-in FM radios.
my experience with loudspeakers hasn't been very good. [from land-line phones to the 7650 and 7210] but i'm sure, you busy yuppie, can make do with that paltry one since you need it for your daily conference calls with your colleauges, no doubt?
wow. you can download new games. and i thought playing the ones installed were sad enough. games that require a larger screen to pull off really shouldn't be squeezed onto a tiny screen. give me full-fat [PDA, GameBoy, PC, etc], thanks. such a feature that installs new apps would be best appreciated in a phone if it were a smartphone. [read: phone/PDA hybrid]
themes, backgrounds, TriBand: check, check, check.
a usb port on your Nokia? could you point that out for me, please?
oh, that's a Pop-Port. Nokia's way of joining Ericsson's fray. by the way, Ericsson simply calls it 'the connector at the bottom of your phone'.
polyphony - i think i've laid that one out already. if you want music, go listen to your [ooh!] radio.
oh. only now you're discovering the usefulness of downloading graphics and audio over WAP and a PC Suite?
ah, a dual uplink. that would be useful if you could attach audio to your MMS messages, so there'd actually be significantly more data to take advantage of dual uplinks.
isn't it a bit dangerous to have one eye/hand on the road with another eye/hand on your Nokia to dial someone's number. i say, take adavantage of your headset, wired or wireless. [oops, you don't have *that* option] it's more than just for talking on.
even if you don't drive, seriously: tapping away on your phone's easier and more natural than speaking directly into it?
although i'd like to be able to proudly claim that i have never required a flash on my phone's firmware, unfortunately that is no longer so. if only i didn't want to upgrade my T68m to a T68i. darn.
netguy2:
finally, correct usage of the word 'sharp'. but how, pray tell, can white be yellow? if it's white, it's white. if it's yellow, it's yellow. make up your mind [the reason why Nokias need X-press On covers - fickle minds]
i think it's nice you spend most of your time in quiet places. just get out into the sun once in a while, ok?
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i've always prided myself on being an Ericsson user - i've managed to convert many a friend, and even my own father. [until he converted when the 8850 came out. he also bought the 8910, which cost 4 times as much as my T68 and does 4 times less] my Ericsson linage goes from the GH388 to the T18sc, T28sc, [got 2 of them, the first one conked out a week or so after it was dropped into the loo.] and my present phone, the T68m[i].
i like to think of an Ericsson as a Saab - it might take some getting used to, but it's a all-performance underneath. intelligent, stylish and robust, without needing to scream it.
a Nokia is more of a Mercedes-Benz. you can steer one with a finger, but you can't do much with it. opulent, mostly in foul taste, and screams 'i'm a sheep/fashion victim'.
Nokia Users: You are the Weakest Links. Goodbye.
[ This Message was edited by: aaronkhoo on 2002-11-11 19:16 ]
Posted by ryanzb
wow. this guy must be the biggest ericsson fanboy anywhere.
i guess that makes two of us!
Posted by Froddan
No offence, but I'd choose a M-B over a Saab anytime
Posted by aaronkhoo
Well, so would i. You can buy two Saabs with one Mercedes-Benz :-D
Posted by MrSavoy
aaronkhoo
That was a hell of a funny post. I say cheers to you dude!
Well said and well put.
Posted by ppcrockar
Well to say that the T300 has "limited gamepossibilities" is not true. The Mophun engine is very good, infact the Mophun games are very good. I believe that Mophun is superior to Java when it comes to games. But on the other hand Java has the upper hand when it comes to "applications".
My complaint on the themes, was that you can't make your own themes.... that really limits the usefulness.
And my complaint about the menu structure of the Nokia was simply that the interface was fine on simple phones with limited features. No it doesn't give enough overview of the menus. You have to learn in which order the options is placed or you have to browse until you find the correct one.
And sure the reason the T300 sounds better is because it has more midi-channels, and the 7210 has better color display just because it has more colors.
I think the comparision between the 7210 and the T300 is fair. Both have poly-tones, downloadable games, lacks bluetooth and voice dialing. Feature-wise they are almost the same. The T300 doesn't have FM-radio but you can buy that as an accessory and it would still be far cheaper if you like FM radio.
And as I said before the MMS implementation on the SE phones are far superior to the Nokia.
The T28 is really slow. But the newer Ericsson phones are not slow. I think the T68 is fast enough at least with the later upgrades... in the beginning it was slow. But I can't write faster than the phone handles, and the menu scrolling is quite fast.
And the T300 isn't that big. It's not a brick... it looks big, but it isn't. I compared my mothers T300 to my T68 side by side and the T300 is not much bigger than the T68... it looks much bigger, but when you actually compare the 2 phones the size difference is very small.
And don't say that the T300 has a childish look. The 7210 does have a childish look. It's the perfect example of a phone with a childish look. The Nokia 6610 looks so much better.
And besides the T300 is half the price of the 7210...
Posted by Johan
Haha!.. i must congratulate aaronkhoo on his great car/phone comparison! a good laugh there!
Really like your point tha:t "Nokia doesnt upgrade their OS cause the Nokia-users are to dumb to manage anything else" *LOL*
Note!.. there´s still a reason why Nokia is the worldmarket leader..
And.. there´s a reason why both Sony Ericsson and Ericsson are falling companies..
Further on, there is also a reason why a lot more people chose MB over Saab =)
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Posted by Raven
Another pointless thread packed up with SE-fanboys/employees trying to convince themselves and others that their T68 is still the most advanced phone on the market.... -Which anyone who's got the smallest grasp on mobil-technology can tell you is not true.
It's still a very decent handset though!
Posted by ppcrockar
IMHO the T68 is still the best mobile phone on the market, without a doubt. But the other manufacturers are closing in, but there are still no phone that can compete with the T68.
BTW this is a Ericsson forum and people here like Ericsson phones, and they require more from their phones than the average consumer does. People here will not settle for phones which lacks the rich feature set that Ericsson phones has...
Posted by Raven
I'm not disputing the fact that the t68 is feature rich(i should know, i've owned one for almost a year), but IMHO it's lacking some of the important \"up to date\" features which doesn't make it \"the best\" phone on the market anymore....
Posted by Froddan
@ Raven
I agree, it's a good phone, but the main set back is the screen.
Now that MMS is getting popular, a 256 color screen just won't do.
As someone here said, in another thread: I had my friends pic as a
caller ID on my phone, and showed it to him. He asked what a f**k
is that... Says the most about the screen.
Posted by aaronkhoo
@johan
i liked what you said about Nokia users. but if you'd re-read my post, that isn't what i said about them at all.
when did i ever deny that Nokia's the world market leader? not everyone needs a full-function phone, and that's when they can safely throw their money at a Nokia without regret. after all, a phone's basically just to talk on, isn't it? anything else's a bonus. then again, as you said, not everyone's capable of utilizing all the features of a too-advanced phone either.
you forgot to add Saab to your list of failing companies. but take note of this: Saab's customer base is almost exclusively filled with degree-holdling professionals. i certainly can't say the same for Mercedes-Benz.
@Raven
the T68 is the most advanced phone on the market? i would have thought that satellite phones that allow me to chat in Antartica and smartphones like the Handspring Treo would have overtaken it already.
@Froddan
why are we complaining about the colour screen? you sound like the Palm m130 users, cheated of a 65K-colour screen. note that this phone was brought to us a long, long time before Nokia's/Siemens'/Motorola's/Panasonic's/etc. would you expect GameBoy Advance performance on a GameBoy Colour?
Posted by gsmwraith
This sounds just like Nokia threads I have read, they Hipe up the brand new Nokias and say they are better than the T68i, I say fine, let them, If they must compare there brand new phone to one that is a year old to convince themselves of this and say wow look how much cooler this one is. In some cases yes, The new phones have java, poly etc, but hey just wait till the follow up to this one comes out!!!
Then they will all be crying for real!!!
Posted by jr_rca
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no im not because theres a free update.
Posted by Froddan
@ aarokhoo
I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out facts. It was a revolution
of hi-tech, when brought out, and it's still a good one. But it's not
that advanced anymore, as so many here tend to think.
Posted by aaronkhoo
@Froddan
true, all too true. a 256 colour one satisfies my needs for now - not that many people have MMS-enabled phones.
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i've read that the 7210 doesn't support animated GIFs. is this true? this would certainly become a major drawback in the future, when MMS becomes the norm. then there's also the inability to send/forward attached sounds in your MMS messages. not really a future-proof phone, in my opinion.
i've tried taking a photo for my phone book using someone else's MCA-20. there's a specific setting [can't remember the name] for 101x80 pictures. it looked pretty good.
however, a 640x480 one didn't take to the screen too well. i guess the resolution on the phonebook ones are low enough to look good. that right?
Posted by Super G
@ aaronhkoo (or something like this
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I disagree, it goes very well with yellow, black, grey, red at least!
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Euh??? I was comparing to T68i... the UI is faster on 7210. Full point.
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Show off. Buy a torch, it's much more practical.
or best, buy a Nokia 5100, it has an integrated torch.
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what exactly are 'sharp' colours? |
Colors. Simply.
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again, don't get me started on built-in FM radios. |
Why not?
It's much more useful than Bluetooth, for me at least.
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my experience with loudspeakers hasn't been very good. [from land-line phones to the 7650 and 7210] but i'm sure, you busy yuppie, can make do with that paltry one since you need it for your daily conference calls with your colleauges, no doubt? |
Have you ever used it?????
Obviously you dunno what you're talking about mate. No need for a headset and you can freely move around, hear and be heard!
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wow. you can download new games. and i thought playing the ones installed were sad enough. games that require a larger screen to pull off really shouldn't be squeezed onto a tiny screen. give me full-fat [PDA, GameBoy, PC, etc], thanks. such a feature that installs new apps would be best appreciated in a phone if it were a smartphone. [read: phone/PDA hybrid] |
Don't be so narrow-minded
A PS2 still has better games than a Gameboy, yet many Gameboy have been sold right??? Why not having games on a phone?
themes, backgrounds, TriBand: check, check, check.
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Yes, the Pop-port is a USB port.
Don't underestimate the power of the popport
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polyphony - i think i've laid that one out already. if you want music, go listen to your [ooh!] radio. |
Oh, damn! Why do we even have ringing tones on our mobiles... C'mon.
I don't want music, I want a nice ringing tone that's it.
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Nope. 've been able to do that for ages with other phones! Put my comment back in its context, thanks!
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What the hell are you saying? Non-sense!
YOu can send emails, pictures, or whatever! Twice as fast!!!!!
80kBytes of sound or image is still 80kBytes...
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isn't it a bit dangerous to have one eye/hand on the road with another eye/hand on your Nokia to dial someone's number. i say, take adavantage of your headset, wired or wireless. [oops, you don't have *that* option] it's more than just for talking on. |
Well, car kits exist! Next...
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Of course it is. But you're obviously not used to Nokia's UI fast and easy!
f I want to call my girlfriend or whoever I have in my phonebook, it takes no more than 2 seconds to get the call started (without using key shortcuts!)!
And voice dial is limited to much less people than the phonebook allows...
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'f course not. You don't even seem to use the features of your phone! And luckily it didn't crash while you were using to lit up your way in your black kitchen at midnite
Posted by HIgher_168
7210 rocks!!! But the memory seems 2 small 2 be really useful.
Posted by Raven
Is it just me or is this guy, aaronkhoo, incredibly rude and arrogant with his first posts her as a member of esato?!
Posted by Deltayoda
Read your own posts, you all sound just as arrogant as him.
Ooo, Nokia is great, it has this and that its the best...
Ooo,
is the best because it has this and that!!!
Just back and forward, everyday...
But really, I have to agree with some of the points aaronkhoo made.
The polyphonic ringtones aren't exactly loud, they are nice, but not loud enough. I can't even hear it when I'm in the streets in this town, with all the buses and cars, sirens, and the stupid bell sound the buses make, and the people talking, etc. Even in the stores, its still rather difficult to hear. Don't get me going about nightclubs, just impossible to hear, but I can hear the high pitched monotones of any phone, including my T68i.
As for java on a phone, I don't really care about it. What good is it? Again, I have yet to hear a good reason for Java on a phone. If its just to download games, I'd much prefer to use my IPAQ. As of right now, java on any phone is just totally limited due to the size and the limitation of the complexity a program can be on the phone. If they allowed us to totally reprogram our phones using Java, then I'd actually would find some use for it, but they don't.
As for you not needing bluetooth and you boasting about how not many people use it, guess what, I use it quite a lot, and I know many people that are starting to use a lot of bluetooth systems, from wireless networks to automatically updating your scuedule/contacts on your phone when you walk into your home or office (Which I am attempting to do). Of course there is also Wi-Fi, but both these systems have its advantages and disadvantages.
But I do think a FM radio is rather good to have on a phone when for example you are waiting in line and have nothing better to do. (Better than playing games, showing off your phone and increasing the risk of you getting robbed, especially in Europe). But still, not really needed for me as I prefer to listen to my MP3 player instead.
As for a phone being faster, have you tried a Siemens? Very fast, but of course its going to be faster when the phone has nothing on it.
Posted by Raven
About poly-tones not being loud enough in some places, that's of course true, but when your walking the streets or whatever you can simply change the profile to one thats got a regular loud sounding ringtone. About bluetooth, in my personal opinion, it's just way over-hyped and the accessories is way over-priced. But it is a relatively new technology so maybe it'll get better... And about java, if you still can't acknowledge the wide amount of content already available and it's future possibilities(it's not all about games!!), there's nothing i can do to help you out! About the fm radio, some like it some don't, but it's still nice to have that possibilito to listen to the radio whenever you want IMO! =)
Posted by Deltayoda
Yes, I agree that some bluetooth stuff is way over priced, but I think it will drop down in the near future (next year maybe), as its very useful.
But I think the whole unpopularity of bluetooth at the moment is the price, take Wi-Fi in the US for example, it has taken off quite well and is quite cheap to use...
As for changing the polyphonic tones to be just one long ringing tone, sort of defeats the whole purpose of having a polyphonic tone. It just needs to be much louder, but I have no idea if that would be possible to do...
Posted by Raven
Most phones with poly-tones also comes with standard loud ring tones, but for those that don't you can download different free programs that converts them. =)
Posted by aaronkhoo
Super G: Euh??? I was comparing to T68i... the UI is faster on 7210. Full point.
yeah. so was i. 7210 vs T68i. what did you think i was talking about?
7210 [Win 3.11] T68i [Win XP]. clear enough for you?
Super G: Show off. Buy a torch, it's much more practical.
or best, buy a Nokia 5100, it has an integrated torch.
hey, you're the one bringing up how *bright* your 7210's backlight is.
Super G: Colors. Simply.
if you'd read my post further up, [i've made quite a few more posts since the one you're bringing up] i've already pointed out that colours cannot be sharp. they can be vibrant, rich, etc, but not sharp. that refers to the resolution. surely they teach English in French schools?
Super G: Have you ever used it?????
Obviously you dunno what you're talking about mate. No need for a headset and you can freely move around, hear and be heard!
didn't i mention that i got my aunt's Nokia 7650 for a week or so above? i also spoke on the 7210 my friend bought. [no, he doesn't have it anymore] and how far can you move from the phone? it's not exactly the same as a Bluetooth headset, is it? sure, it comes as standard on the phone, but i think i can see why.
Super G: Yes, the Pop-port is a USB port.
Don't underestimate the power of the popport
well, if you'd like to be so adamant about the Pop-Port being USB, i'd like to see you connect your 7210 to a USB-enabled device. printer/scanner/whatever.
Super G: Oh, damn! Why do we even have ringing tones on our mobiles... C'mon.
I don't want music, I want a nice ringing tone that's it.
seriously? i have no idea. i use the standard 'ring-ring'.
Super G: What the hell are you saying? Non-sense!
YOu can send emails, pictures, or whatever! Twice as fast!!!!!
80kBytes of sound or image is still 80kBytes...
excuse me? i'd like to see you try to send me an sound attachment or a GIF animation. heck, i'd like to see you *recieve* a GIF animation.
Super G: Well, car kits exist! Next...
ah! car kits! how do you dial a number on your phone while it's in there?
a) bend forward, tap around on your Nokia, *then* divert your full attention to the road.
b) say your magic word, then the name, [and if need be the type of number] eyes on the road all the time.
and a Bluetooth Headset has one tiny little advantage over a car kit - you can use it out of your car.
Super G: Of course it is. But you're obviously not used to Nokia's UI fast and easy! f I want to call my girlfriend or whoever I have in my phonebook, it takes no more than 2 seconds to get the call started (without using key shortcuts!)!
And voice dial is limited to much less people than the phonebook allows...
how much different is doing the same thing on my T68mi?
and voice dialling is meant for convinience. if you call more than 50 different people daily, you don't need a mobile phone - you need a personal secretary.
Super G: 'f course not. You don't even seem to use the features of your phone! And luckily it didn't crash while you were using to lit up your way in your black kitchen at midnite
you have a point there... what features do i actually use? hmm...
GPRS for wap surfing [yes, i use it almost daily]
IrDA between my Palm and my Ericsson
Sound Recorder for when i don't have my Palm
Bluetooth between my PC and my Ericsson for sync-ing
i also MMS frequently because my network operator is giving out free MMS usage now...
hmm... hmm... hmm... what else is there? i can't remember. feel free to point out any features i don't use, especially when you're by my side all the time. [how else would you know that i don't 'seem' to use the features on my phone?]
[ This Message was edited by: aaronkhoo on 2002-11-13 07:09 ]
Posted by Super G
@ aaronkhoo
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Stop being petty-minded...
I'd like to see you talking/writing French.
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Ooooh really?!
Could you please tell us how on Earth you send a MMS with a T68m when you haven't ever flashed it!?!?!
I think you should rather stop posting your messages...
Unless you actually have something relevant to say!
Posted by aaronkhoo
@Super G
here's what i wrote:
oh, and, no, i didn't feel sad when the T68i came out, *cause i easily obtained a software upgrade to it*for S$12 [plus a CD and user guide]. and if i need the [rather superfical] outer casing to reflect the upgrade, i can have it changed for roughly S$50. S$62 for a brand-new phone. not bad, eh?
although i'd like to be able to proudly claim that i have never required a flash on my phone's firmware, unfortunately *that is no longer so*. if only i didn't want to upgrade my T68m to a T68i. darn.
note the words between the asterisks. i have also refered to my phone as a T68mi perviously.
once again, i re-iterate that you have a severe lack in understanding of the English Language. here's a clearer picture:
I H-A-V-E F-L-A-S-H-E-D M-Y P-H-O-N-E.
i really can't help you if you *want* to look stupid online.
and while i cannot speak/write French, i can speak/write Chinese. and that's because there's no such language as Singaporean.
now, i'm really sorry if i've crossed the 'personal attacks' line for some of you. i try to keep my online rants as non-personal as possible, [which is why i haven't been very active here before] but i think we're about a mile past that line now.
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DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Super G
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Sorry, I have other things to do than reading your answers to other posters... So you did upgrade your phone. I acknowledge that. Then be consistent with your own words...
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Pitiful!
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What?
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Ohhhhh. I'm hurt. You got me here.
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A fat lot of good! Really impressive
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Please, don't be sorry if you don't mean it!
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Super G: Sorry, I have other things to do than reading your answers to other posters... So you did upgrade your phone. I acknowledge that. Then be consistent with your own words...
what you've said makes a whole lot of sense, now if only if were true. re-read my post. half of it was directed at you.
--- although i'd like to be able to proudly claim that i have never required a flash on my phone's firmware, unfortunately that is no longer so. if only i didn't want to upgrade my T68m to a T68i. darn. ---
that was written in my reply to you, many posts ago.
and i'm supposed to be consistent with my words?! when did i say that my phone's *never* needed a re-flash?
Super G: A fat lot of good! Really impressive
and your 'parlez-vous francias' is something the whole world should be proud of? i can't see what learning French has done for you. certainly hasn't made you any more knowledgable.
Super G: Please, don't be sorry if you don't mean it!
see here, this is getting ridiculous. when i reply directly to you, you pay no attention, but when i'm speaking to everyone else, you butt in and make noise. why don't you go and do your 'other things'?
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Posted by jeRrRKKKK
Hey i bought a 7650 and i can tell you 4 megs is way not enough memory for a phone let alone .5 megs the even t68 has 1 meg i'd rather get a 7650 than a 7210 tt looks better but lacks so much functionalsty
Posted by Raven
C'mon guys, this discussion is getting way too personal IMO.... Can't we try to keep these discussions on a somewhat intelligent/civilized level? This is just getting way out of hand, and not to mention TOPIC!
Posted by ppcrockar
@Raven
I agree with you. This discussion has crossed the line. I think it's ok to discuss phones, and I like discussions. But when they turn into personal wars, it's not intresting anymore at least not for me.
Posted by [MDS]
second that....