Posted by BobaFett
e70 has got the same cam, 2mp, no af. BUT is has the amazing display, what only e60 and e90 have got, no other fone...
Posted by Miss UK
Oh right I wasn't aware the E-Series was at the E90 stage already tbh I haven't been following this line-up only the N-Series lol
E-Series though is Biz as you say,
and I utterly think it's aimed at wimmin,
the way they created the E65 just shows that in respect I think
Posted by BobaFett
n series are for the multimedia, for such a serious biz lady as u, e series is the winner. so if u need a good cam, then n series.
btw are u after e70 now?
Posted by Miss UK
Im hardley the Biz lady Boba,
the E65 is quite a boring phone it doesn't have any games and I don't know if you can download them to it
it's a office pretty phone,
it's simple to use and lacks a few things appart from that I wouldn't pay the retail price for it I tell you that for sure
btw is this normal for the phone to light up the screen every 5-10mins???
this phones doing this like the other one did
I don't want a E70 I want a N95 Boba
Posted by BobaFett
scren light up? u mean the feature when u have a missed call or sms? its a standard in e50 for example, but not sure in e65
Posted by Miss UK
so is that it?
if you don't look at your text message which you recieve it will constantley light up
ive tried the settings and it still keeps doing it btw was beginning to think it's a bug, my other phone done it aswell it's quite annoying,
imagine going to the cinema lol
Posted by BobaFett
not sure in e65. but as mentioned, in e50 and e51 its working this way, check the manual, what does it say? or did u have missed calls etc? dont think it would light up without any reason...
Posted by Miss UK
I had a unread message it kept lighting up for that maybe?
however the battery was nearley dead anyway so that also might be the problem, if I get it happening tomorrow i'll email nokia about it..
shame cos I wanna see I Am Legend Boxing day and looks like myphone will have to stay at home if it keeps lighting up
Posted by BobaFett
maybe it also light up when the battery is almost empty... thats wouldnt be nothing new then
Posted by Miss UK
*Sigh* i'm hoping so @ Boba
Posted by BobaFett
are u ater an interesting application maybe? what do miss?
Posted by Miss UK
Only Virtual Radio I wont install on the phone
Posted by BobaFett
weird, not even the one from nokia beta labs?
Posted by Miss UK
Boba I reck the phone needs a update to make the apps to work
Posted by BobaFett
as i recall u have now a generic fw on e65, so just do it via nsu and give it a try
Posted by Miss UK
Im still deciding upon doing that Boba,
if the phone gives me anymore probs I will..
sending to Vodafone will prob takes ages I bet,
they don't even have newer firmware for it anyway
Posted by Miss UK
Oh I downloaded the Mocha dots theme and set it as main theme,
must say it looks lovely matching the mocha fascia
Posted by BobaFett
yeah, thats a anice thm, i also gave for it a try, as i recall, it came out first with e90
Posted by bearcub24
Just got a sim free Nokia e51 on friday, so far very pleased with it, replacing my old E50 which has served me well. Only issue I've noticed at the moment is that the hash key doesn't toggle between silent/general profiles. From what I've gathered from other forums this is a known issue, hopefully it will be fixed in future firmware updates.
Posted by BobaFett
oh, didnt know that nokia doesnt offer the silent/general etc hash key solution in e51, very sttrange, do loike that feature... also u can put in it the n95 8gb battery for longer standby if i is
Posted by bearcub24
Thats the thing BobaFett, according to the manual it is meant to act as a toggle between silent/general modes but alas doesn't, the star key now acts as a toggle between bluetooth on/off modes.
Posted by BobaFett
u have to push the key longer, is the way u are doing it?
Posted by Miss UK
On 2007-12-23 22:24:50, BobaFett wrote:
yeah, thats a anice thm, i also gave for it a try, as i recall, it came out first with e90
does that have a mocha housing to then?
Posted by BobaFett
yeah, the brown e90. not sure whats the "main" thm for the red e90
Posted by bearcub24
Yeah even after a long key press it still fails to respond, hopefully this issue will be fixed in future firmware updates as it was with the 6300.
Posted by BobaFett
so nokia disabled it... weird... when u use the cam, are the 1 2 3 4 keys working to enable nihgtmode etc?
Posted by Miss UK
On 2007-12-24 03:07:25, BobaFett wrote:
yeah, the brown e90. not sure whats the "main" thm for the red e90
Quite possibley a red theme no doubt
Posted by dembala
I've had a few E series phones over the past years. Currently I'm using an E51 which I love! I've had E50 and E61 as well. I haven't come accross to such a well designed and built phone by Nokia like the E51. Finally they made it!
However, I'm interested in your experience regarding E-mail. There is a bug or feature (I couldn't decide yet) which has been there in all S60 based phones and is still there in the newest ones. The problem I'm gonna describe here is not present in UIQ based phones like the SE P1 for example, which I also have .
I'm using IMAP based E-mail because that fits to my daily workflow. I'm handling my e-mail box from multiple computers (home, work, whatever) so IMAP is the solution for me, I don't want to download via POP3 my mails to all the PCs. My clients are set to check for new e-mail every 5 minutes or so. My phone does this periodic checking only in 2 hour intervals over Edge or 3G.
And here comes my problem. It is about how S60 firmware considers an email to be a new one, or an existing one. You see, let's suppose you get a new e-mail to your mailbox. You are out of office, not at home, somewhere on the way. Your phone checks e-mails periodically and informs you about this new e-mail with sound, with vibration and via the active standby plugin. Cool.
What happens if you are in the office. You sit in front of your PC and your mail client is running. It checks for new mails in your IMAP mailbox every 5 minutes. Voila, you have a new mail. You client tells you this. OK. Your phone is gonna check new mails only an hour from now, so it's quiet.
You read your new email on the PC and mark the recently received mail as "read". OK, cool, no new e-mails.
You go out, you are on the way again. Suddenly your phone is making the sound and vibrates. Uuups, a new e-mail has been received. Hm. Who is it, you check it, and you see that actually, your mailbox has been updated with the e-mail that you had already read in the office. On the active standby screen you see that the mail is actually "read", so it is not a new e-mail. S60 just updated the mailbox and saw that there is a new item in the mailbox, without checking its properties if it's a read or unread one.
S60 shouldn't notify you about new items in your mailbox, because you don't care about the phone not knowing the exact status of your mailbox at the given time. You just want to have notification when a NEW mail is received that you hadn't seen so far.
This is what IMAP is all about, isn't it? In case of POP3, the above scenario would be understandable, because in POP3 the client is not aware of the status of the mail. But you select IMAP that should be supported by the client, and according to specs, it is!
I haven't seen any nokia phone that would handle this situation correctly. Only SE phones handle IMAP as it should be handled, as I have seen so far.
I hope Nokia will some day or later do something about this.
Please comment, am I missing the trick that you already know for this?
Regards
dembala
Posted by Dogmann
@dembala
I don't know about IMAP as have never used it but using auto retrieval i have been able to have it check for new mail much quicker than every two hours and don't see why IMAP would be any different.
Currently i am using the Beta of Seven always on push E-Mail that is currently free and has the simplest set up i have ever come across just enter your user name and password for each account and the app does the rest. You can find it here
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
Just register and it sends a set up link to your devcie and has loads of options of not only the time to run between for both Workdays and Weekends but you can easily define which connections it can use or not. It just works really well i don't know how long the free Beta will continue for but even if you have to pay for what it offers i don't consider it expensive.
Marc
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Posted by dembala
Hey Marc,
Thanks for the tip, I'm gonna check this.
Concerning the 2 hours: It's not about the regularity... I can set it to 5 minutes as well... The problem is about the fact that a "read" email is also reported as new by the phone when it checks the mailbox!
Already read email shouldn't be reported as new ones when cheking the mailbox, because they are "read", so not new to me. New to the phone, but who cares about the phone
This is the essential thing in IMAP against POP3. Huge difference.
SE P1 does this correctly. It updates the mailbox, and if there are only "read" mails, it keeps quiet, no notification.
Posted by BobaFett
i prefer the sms delivery report when i get a new email. never used that mentioned fature, imo nice, but useless...
Posted by Dogmann
@dembala
I actually can't agree with you viewpoint on this as quite obviously once it has been opened it has been read and as the phone checks the Mail Server it will show as being read. I really don't see how it could possibly be shown as new E-mail or unread as that just can't be possible can it?
With the Seven all ways on E-Mail even it has been read it is still pushed to the phone and you get a notification as it arrives, i will be interested to see how you find it works for you.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-12-26 21:57 ]
Posted by RxistKJ
Hi all,
New to the E-series forum and am contemplating purchasing either an E61i or E90. I've searched various places and have read conflicting reports on the following question:
Does either the E61i or E90 support the A2DP bluetooth stack? In lamest terms, can I stream music in stereo with bluetooth headphones to either handset?
Thanks in advance.
Posted by fatreg
^^ Apparently... E90 Yes, E61i No... but a FW update may change that...
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[ This Message was edited by: fatreg on 2007-12-26 23:16 ]
Posted by dembala
On 2007-12-26 22:56:57, Dogmann wrote:
@dembala
I actually can't agree with you viewpoint on this as quite obviously once it has been opened it has been read and as the phone checks the Mail Server it will show as being read. I really don't see how it could possibly be shown as new E-mail or unread as that just can't be possible can it?
With the Seven all ways on E-Mail even it has been read it is still pushed to the phone and you get a notification as it arrives, i will be interested to see how you find it works for you.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-12-26 21:57 ]
Marc,
Every message on the IMAP server has a status "read" or "unread". This status is linked to the message itself. Whenever the mailbox is checked by any mail client (PC or Phone, or whatever) the status of the messages is communicated to the mail client when the client checks the mailbox.
When a decent mail client checks the mailbox it discoveres new messages, but paralel it evaluates the status properties of the messages and does not alert you by it's default mechanisms if there are only "read" mails. It simply updates it's message database, from that point you can see all the mails, but does NOT warn you about new messages, because there are NO new messages for you for interest.
You don't care about the fact, that the message database of the client you are using is not aware of all messages at the given time when checking the mailbox. You are only interested in the new messages, that you hadn't seen before. Right?
So what I'm telling, is that the mail client of the S60 software does not work like this. It reports every single message with an alert as being a new one (even if the small icon in front of the message shows that it is "read") ! This is awkward, because only "unread" messages should be reported by an alarm (sound, vibra, whatever), since those are the ones that you are interested of !
dembala
Posted by Miss UK
Myphone Turned itself off xmas day it hasn't don it again so far,
it seem stable compared to last handset.
its growing om me I think atlast the mocha theme has transformed it's looks
Posted by BobaFett
u should give a try for e61 or e61i, imo u ll like it
Posted by Miss UK
thats the big fat blackberry thing right
I was tempted to have that a while back on a Three contract,
went for the Vodafone in the end
boba i'll just live with it ive got better things to sort out then phones btw,
i'd like to be able to have my own flat by xmas next year of course though getting that all important job
Posted by Dogmann
@Miss UK
The E61's are wide but quite slim and i still say they are one of the best if not the best smart phones i have ever used, i actually really miss my E61 but intend coming back to the E series very soon like tomorrow.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-12-29 02:08 ]
Posted by Miss UK
So you getting rid of the N95 so soon then ?
The keypad layout on those look abit tricky to use,
the buttons are small..
took me a couple of days to get used to myphone keypad after using the chunky N80 layout
Posted by Nanu
The E61 is a phone I really miss too!
I really loved that phone!
Posted by fatreg
never had an E61 but I miss the E61 and E70
that E70 is something else I tell ya....
i would still have one today if I could keep hold of one for more than a month.. had 2 and both went
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Miss UK
You get used to them and can type really fast and accurately as it is just a normal qwerty layout and i never found the buttons to small or to close together to be honest. Well my deal is on hold for now so still have the N95 8GB but really do fancy a E90 again just got to wait and see what happens.
Marc
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Posted by BobaFett
honestly, how good is e90 as a gps device?
Posted by Miss UK
Aww bless you guys I miss alot of things myself but not phones
btw "3" used to have the E61 on a Pay Monthley tariff at £15 per month so ideal for those of you who re-want to reclaim that
"3" are doing some great phones surpringley atm nice to see the Nokia 8GB on there site looks like Vodafone lost it then
im just sticking to what ive got btw E65 it's a phone and thats the way it should be
im going thru phrases of which brand to get in the Washing machines, Fridges, and cookers lol driving me nuts atm
shame I cannot start a appliance thread I think Masseur would have a laugh at it
Posted by Dogmann
@Miss UK
VodaFone where only ever having the N95 8GB as an exclusive till Christmas as that has now passed they should be available on any Network that wants to sell them.
@Boba
My opinion on built in GPS on any devcie is that it is inferior to my off board solution, and until they become better i don't intend using them anytime soon. I am more than happy with Tom Tom 6 and my Holox BT-321 GPS receiver that has served me well and continues to do so. Although the E90 also now has A-GPS so gets locks faster it is till IMO inferior to my above mentioned sloution IMO. Hopefully with the next upgrade for the E90 it should also get Demand Paging which will improve it's performance further.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-12-30 07:50 ]
Posted by BobaFett
thats right... my mistake, i ment more the form factor as gps device
Posted by Dogmann
Hi Boba,
Well since the last firmware upgrade Tom Tom now runs perfectly on the internal screen so with the correct car kit i would say it would be better than even a dedicated Sat Nav device due to the large internal screen. Also the volume from the speakers is nice and loud so really is a great Sat Nav solution and easily able to replace the need for a stand alone devcie.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-12-30 15:07 ]
Posted by BobaFett
will u be back to e90?
Posted by Miss UK
E90 looks pretty good,
never really tried a communicator device from Nokia only bearley saw a really old one like 8 years or more ago
3 must of really wanted that N95 btw
don't see it on 02's site except for there attempt of offering the Silver one with a 8GB card lmao
I wonder if Vodafone will reduce it now,
I really want one May 2009 btw,
don't think nothing else will come out thats any good
before then or will it