Posted by fyrestrtr
Have you guys thought of telling SE about this? Surely they have a bigger influence on ebay, considering the guy is pirating their products?
Posted by 2ndcarpenter
well i got scammed to. and the first thing i noticed was the box looking like it was overstuffed , something right then didn't seem right, so i pulled it out it looked to cheap to be made by SE, then i tested it, the sound quality sucked. I have a headset the came with my SE phone and I couldnt and still cant believe the sound quality i mean WOW for such small little earphones they sound better than my home stereo almost. So lastly I found this forum on my google mobile (1st one on the list). this all happened at work since i work in the Post office. I got home e-mailed the bastard and he assured me that they are original and the boxes must be different since we live in different countries, I never mentioned the boxb but offered me as a "valued customer" a full refund if i returned it. Hahahaha i went straight to paypal dispute. but here is the real kicker i have another fake on the way from a different seller. bought one for me and the wife. but when i started looking thru his feedback i found one that referenced this forum as well it was seller Hezoelectronic, and the other seller i got the 1st one from is Mobixhk. but thats ok the army is getting larger and we are gonna stop these mother humpers. I do have one upper hand I work at the post office and I know afew poeple that know a few people,.... also this is considered mail fraud, selling fakes as originals throught the mail.
Posted by nabboR
Well, I shipped my HS back to him yesterday, I'll let u know if/when I get a refund.
Posted by 2ndcarpenter
check it out i posted a review and i was able to give the web address to this forum as well as the description and picture page 213.19.178.16/se/. Here is the review maybe if yall like i welcome input
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Posted by mariwun
with all the fake hbhds-970's out there i thot the one im selling in the mkt forums would have gone by now!!!...come on peeps!!
Posted by tsoglanos
Hi there!
I'd like to ask a question to those that got a refund from paypal!
Did paypal refund you the FULL amount of money? or the amount of money you paid minus the processing fees (28 euros)?
I have a problem with a seller with an item that I haven't received.
The seller didn't ask for a tracking number of the package when he sent it so there isn't one. Also ebay changes this user to "no longer registered" I suspect because he was selling fake cf memories. But when I escalated my dispute to claim, someone from paypal conatcted me and told me something like that there will be 28Euros processing fees in case the seller's paypal account hasn't got the required funds. I am not sure if I understood well because I am fro Greece
the exact response to my claim from paypal was the one below:
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Dear XXXXX XXXXXXX,
Hello, my name is Virginia and I will be happy to assist you with your
question regarding teh case number PP-236-703-XXX .
Mr. XXXXX if the case will be granted into your favor we will check
the seller's account to recover the funds. Should the funds not be
available anymore we will refund you the amount minus ?28 which is our
processing fee. I advice you to wait the case resolution as the seller
might decide to refund you entirely.
It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing PayPal.
Sincerely,
Virginia
PayPal, an eBay Company
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So please tell me....what happened with your cases??? Did you got a full refund or the amount of money you paid minus the processing fees???
Please if anyone can tell me anything about this, please do so!
Thank you all in advance!
PS. in order for you to know...the seller was called turbosing333 DON NOT BUY ANYTHING from him, as he is going to sell you probably something fake, or he won't ship at all the product!
Posted by nabboR
Hi guys!
Well, since I sent my parcel back to HK on the 4'th of Januari I'd guess he got it by now, I've mailed him twice in the last couple of days and I know for a fact that he atleast read my latest mail 9 hrs. ago but still no reply.
I guess that I'll wait for some days but if I don't get any replies by the end of the week I'd think I'm being fooled.
I'll let u guys know how it goes.
Posted by litepurple
I sent mine back a week ago today, and Royal Mail said it would take 5 working days to get there. I emailed him to say it's on his way and he said he'd be in touch when it got there.
I haven't rated this one on ebay yet - once I get my money back, it's a NEGATIVE comment, rest assured.
Posted by Nepstad
Has anyone buyed a headset from this seller?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Eric[....]Z20347QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
Posted by nabboR
Atleast I've got an answer, he replied that he didn't get the parcel yet, well it might be so but now it is 17 days ago that I sent it to him.
We'll see after the weekend and a bit in to next week, I sent it as recommended post so it should reach him...
_________________
Best regards /Robban
(sorry for my poor English, 27 years since reading it in school)
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Posted by litepurple
It's been two weeks since I returned mine; the Royal Mail said it would only take one week.
Posted by nabboR
Even though he from the beginning prommised a refund he has sent out a replacement, he says in his mail that:
"Dear customer
there is ASIA version and EURO version of DS 970 for sure
u can check the retail box
we already sent out the replacement , so please wait for it"
So within a week or so we'll see if the new HS he sent me is any better than the last one, I'll let u know.
Posted by >500
Well i ended up ordering 2 from seller ioak. Its about the only hk seller which seems to have genuine headsets. Going by all there other accessories too which all seem to be genuine....
When i emailed them about fakes, he said they are indeed aware of the fakes, just look on google and you will find heaps he also said. He says they dont sell fake
products, all is genuine.
Should get them in about a week hopefully. Will report back here when tested.
Posted by morgan1130
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I just got mine from this seller today, and it's fake...
It took almost 3 weeks for the shipping, he said it's because the unclaim item so USPS returned the headset back to HK, which is BS, I had it sent to my office and never got any notice from USPS for the past weeks. And he kept pushing me to leave the feedback for him.
Now I have to think how to deal with seller.
Any suggestion?
[ This Message was edited by: morgan1130 on 2007-01-25 18:31 ]
Posted by nabboR
Well, it sure was a speedy delivery!
I got the replacement yesterday, charged it all night and tested it 5 minutes ago.
What can I say... STAY AWAY!
Same c r a p as the last time, first i started listening to MP3 music (with weak sound) and then I recieved an incomming call and the HS froozed/crasched exactly in the same way my first HS did, just a distorted name (caller ID) in the HS display, the only way to make the HS work again is to put it on the charger, then again, incomming call and it crasches.
Just worthless piece of s h i t.
I really want to know if ANYBODY has bought a good working HS from HK-Ebayers? (this modell of course)
Well now you know and it is up to you guys to make your own opinion on wether to buy on Ebay or at your local dealer, I'm pretty sure on where I'll buy my stuff from now on.
Cheers.
I'll of course contact the dealer today and ask for a refund so I'll let you know how the story ends, so far the HS has costed me 94$ with the return parcel, I think it is enough now.
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Best regards /Robban
(sorry for my poor English, 27 years since reading it in school)
[ This Message was edited by: nabboR on 2007-01-27 06:56 ]
Posted by nabboR
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Well, it seems like it's a bad beat to buy from HK Ebayers, ask him for a refund, otherwise he'll be sending you new s h i t t y things, just read my topic above. Good luck!
Posted by mariwun
if anybody in the uk is intrested i have one for sale see for sale session
Posted by litepurple
This seller is so dodgy and only replies to emails when the threat of a negative comment on ebay is made. He now wants the tracking number. I sent it from UK on 10th Jan by registered post. Never buy from this seller.
Posted by andy8ball
To all, I have also bought the HB-DS970 from ebay from a seller who said they are located in the UK.
I have opened up a claim via Paypal and so far there has been no reponse from the seller so I am on for a full refund.
Will let you know what happens.
I have also now bought a real set and the difference is huge!
Posted by morgan1130
After few threatenly email sent to him, he agreed with a RMA and full refund. But he still insisted that's a genius part and they tested before shipped out.
The piece of crap's screen still freezed while I am writing this, and no way I can turn it off... what a genius HS.
Posted by >500
just got 2 of these headsets from seller 'ioak' whos is also a Hk seller....I thought it could be fake when pruchasing, but comparing to the test on first page, its definately real by the looks of things...But im yet to check the sound of it....its on charge at the moment....
So,its genuine by looks which is a good sign...
http://stores.ebay.com.au/ioak-store_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
buy from them if you are buying from hk....
ill report back here once ive tested sounds quality to confirm if its genuine
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but i repeat, going by looks, compared to test on first page, they are genuine
Posted by nabboR
Well m8, it is hard, very hard to see the difference between a fake and original. Try to play MP3 and then recieve an incomming call, if it hangs/crashes then it probably is a fake.
No answer yet from my HK seller, even though I know he've read my email.
Posted by litepurple
The guy's playing me around now. Claims he's not had it back! So dodgy,
Posted by dirtbikr
Hey all,
I just bought this headset on Wednesday of last week and got an email today over eBay from a "morgan1130" about this forum and the fake headsets... I will check the P.O. Box soon to see if i have it today, as it's been 7 days... I'll report back as to if it's real or not... assuming the worst, but you never know. If it's a fake I'm immediately going to contact PayPal and have a chat with them about the problem. I'll keep you guys updated...
and morgan1130, if you are reading this forum, thank you SO much for the heads up... bought a fake memory card last week, and seems as though this week is just as bad...
Posted by >500
i can confirm that the 2 headsets i bought from seller ioak on ebay are genuine
Both the product build and sounds output are perfect...
Posted by nabboR
And u have tried to play MP3 and then recieve an incomming call, and it worked...?
If so, congrats to you!
Posted by >500
@nabbor
yep all works fine..... so to confirm, sound quality is fine, and the product build is same as genuine one which is in the test on page 1 of this thread...
Maybe you should buy from this seller.....or just not in hk..
Posted by nabboR
@jedi-master
OK, congrats to u m8!
It seems that you've been lucky enough to have bought the real thing.
I'm now up at about 94$ in expenses without having a working HS.
It is very annoying to spend this kind of money right down the drain.
We'll see if he's fair enougt to give me a refund.
Posted by pce_54
i've been reading this thread for someone who goes back to hong kong regularly i know how many fakes there are over there! fake, memory sticks, fake headphones, basically general advice is not to buy any accessories from HK/China
I bought a MS duo from a seller in UK. although descirbed as new and sealed the packaging was open, but since the quality of packing was of high standards and seems genuine i let it pass, only to find the MSduo didn't work. on closer inpection and comparision with a friends MSduo i found the printing slightly fuzzy and upon rubbing actually smeared!! best guess was that he bought fakes from HK/China and stuck them into genuine packaging, which would explain the open package. fortunatly I managed to get a refund.
more examples on ebay Sony MDR-EX90LP RRP£80 on ebay from china for as little as £10-£20, same for Sony MDRNC22 Noise Cancelling In-Ear Headphones RRP £60 on ebay £20, obviously fakes!! I'm even suspicious about the MDRNC22 Noise Cancelling In-Ear Headphones on ebay from a seller in japan for £30.
as for phones being fake, thats too difficult for them to make without it being totally obvious its a fake.
i find it so annoying that ebay doesn;t do more about stuff like this, along with all the fake sony USB flash drives on ebay with sellers claiming them to have 32GB!! and a full refund if not happy, yeah right they'll give u a refund.
since ebay seems unlikey to ever do anyhting about it, its also difficult for them to verfiy the seller is indeed selling fakes in some case. my general rule is NEVER buy any form of accessories for any electrical items from HK or China.
Posted by morgan1130
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No problem mate. Guys here also helped me how to deal with the seller. I sent out the message to 10 buyers and I wish you guys will have good luck with that HS or deal with him.
Few things I found between the real and fake: (I have both, and then return the fake one)
1. The real one can pair with my phone automatically, without enter the code.
2. The singlepoint/multipoint switch feels different, real one is tighten, and maybe I didn't notice, but when I switched the mode on fake one, the LCD screen didn't even show the status.
3. The real LCD is brighten.
Above are what I noticed right away after I got the genius one, besides the looking (They look just like what it says in original post) and sound/connection quality. There are other differences but I am not 100% sure since I didn't play the fake one long enough. (ie. I don't remember I heard the ringtone while I adjust headset volume on stand by).
The easiest way to tell is from the plastic carrying case, fake one's inner is plain flat without any text.
Good luck.
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Posted by andy8ball
to everyone
Received news from Paypal that they are refunding me for the headset as the seller (fonez2u) did not even contact them regarding the dispute.
so now I have my new headset bought from expansys, my refund from paypal and a duff headset bought from ebay.
My advice is to shop around on legal sites where you will be covered...ebay is the refuge of the fakers!
Posted by litepurple
I tried to dispute with Paypal but their automated thing said I wasn't covered! I guess I'm selecting the wrong product type, or something. I have given this seller negative feedback and people are contacting me for the link to this thread, so hopefully he'll be losing some sales now. I can't believe I wasted £55 in total on this scam.
Posted by Airforce1
Hi guys... can you include also some pics of CST-13 charger of the original one and the fake one. So that i warned on it.
Posted by Residentevil
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Sorry to hear that pal.
Posted by louis*cyphre
www.NOPAYPAL.COM
http://www.paypalsucks.com/fo[....]ead.php?tid=1254&fid=3&block=0
here are some link for you people, to help you avoid eBay and PayPal altogether.
PAYPAL SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by nabboR
Well, today I sent my 2'nd crappy HS back to HK.
He prommised me a refund already on the 1'st one, and now after many emails he prommis me a refund when the HS arrives at his place, should be early in next week.
I'll let u know how it goes.
Posted by alkoholiczka
uuuaaaaaa!!! i just bought my ds970... from honk kong!!! i ordered it 1 week ago and recived today. and yesterday i found out about all this fake stuff from hk!
box looks orginal, wasn't open before. i checked http://213.19.178.16/se/ and !!!!!!! mine ds970 looks same as the fake one, even the manual is printed on sh.. paper! but i checked other things and everythings works fine. when i play music and recive a call there's no problem at all. when i switch the multi/single point mode, the LCD shows status. sound quality is preety good, almost same as from orginal earphones. no problems with connecting to my k800i.
seller's name is usbdepot. i checked his feedback, nobody who bough ds970 has left feedback as yet, coz he started sell it only 2 weeks ago.
i'm really wondering if i have fake one. any ideas?
Posted by A L 3 X
maybe if you could post some pictures that would help us
Posted by mayacesar
Hi guys,
Read my post http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=140583.
I'm really going mad with this case.
The seller said he shipped the item and gave the Hong Kong post shipping number to Paypal. The funny thing is that that number is the same as the one in the letter I got from the Belgian customs.
Paypal wants me to provide additionnal info.
Are the playing with me or what ? The letter says everything : shipment with number... has been controled by the customs and officially confiscated.
What more can I add ? All the details are on the document, even phone number !!!
I swear to God, I will never buy anything from Hong Kong again on ebay.
Posted by nabboR
A bit of topic but... Fake as fake. (hope you don't mind)
Yesterday I recieved a new battery, a BST 33, sold on http://www.tradera.com (big auction site here in Scandinavia) Sold as the real thing but shown to be a fake. Didn't even take the charge.
Here's some pics of it:
Front
Back
The one on the left is the FAKE.
There's not much diff. in size, a few 10'th of a millimeter but there's an obvious diff. on the back, on the glance.
The "BIG" diff. is the weight, the FAKE on the left side weights in on 15gram (digi-scale) and the original weights in on 18 gram.
That's 20% diff!!
Talked to the seller who will refund me.
He also confessed that he had a contact in H O N G K O N G, that he bought his stuf from...
Why am I not surprised...?
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Best regards /Robban
(sorry for my poor English, 27 years since reading it in school)
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Posted by alkoholiczka
hmmm i think pictures won't be needed as it looks same as the fake one.
anyway, i was just playing music, when something happend ....
????
here it is, my 'brand new'
ds970:
lcd frozen, buttons don't respond, i can't switch it off, i can't do anything with it now, only wait 4 battery 2 die.
i will leave beautiful feedback for him...!!!!!
Posted by barrowfordred
My headset, bought from a UK seller, seemed OK when I bought it. So I left positive feedback, silly really because I'd not actually used it.
Now I've tried to use I'm beginning to think it's a fake.
I either have to re-pair or turn the phone off and on the get the music to transfer.
The only time I tried an incomming call with the headset playing it froze (and still is frozen) and I can't switch it off.
I've looked at the pictures and to be honest the diferences aren't really that obvious on my headset. The giveaway appears to me to be the storage case. The real ones have symbols and date indicators moulded into them. The fake one (in the picture) doesn't - mine doesn't
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I've e-mailed the seller and pointed out that the headset may be a fake. As yet I haven't had a reply. I'll wait a little longer and then post a follow up feedback comment and then contact E-Bay & PayPal.
Not sure how to go about making certain that the headset is fake, other than taking it to a Sony Ericcson service centre, and I don't know where the nearest one is.
p.s. this is the one I bought - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBay[....]m=&item=300074738662&rd=1&rd=1
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Posted by marcellos
As far as I could observe, the fake ones come with only ONE pair of extra rubber earbuds. The originals come with 2.
Posted by barrowfordred
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Mine came with 2 extra pairs ????????
Still doesn't work though.
Posted by marcellos
It's quite possible that some of the fakes also come with 2...
Posted by barrowfordred
I've reset mine and tried an incomming call again. Pressing the call button has no effect. Tried again and headset locked up.
My M600i phone is Orange branded. Shouldn't be an issue, but................
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Posted by nitro993
I recieved one from seller "ioak"...It is 100% genuine...Bass is excellent....Functionality is perfect (had for 4 days now and have been using it almost every minute of the day) .....Took a little time to recieve in the mail(a little over a month) - but the seller did resend priority post and took 6 days to recieve as promised....
If you're going to order from ebay AND from Hong Kong....I recommend him to ensure you are getting 100% genuine....
My feedback is provide on ebay to him aswell...
Cheers and thanks for the heads up on the other sellers...You guys saved me a headache....
nitro993
Posted by alkoholiczka
barrowfordred,
i checked this link where u bought your headset from and i can tell u only one thing for sure: charger is from china.
Posted by >500
@nitro993
i too got mine from Ioak. I got 2 actually. Both great. Although my brothers battery wastes quite fast, thats because he uses it frequently though
mine only took 6 or so days to get to me, sorry bout your 1 month wait
Posted by tonchy
hello
it is really sad that my first post had to be in this thread, i usually only read the threads and learn from them. The thing is i bougth myself a headset a couple of weeks ago but haven't received it yet. anyways i think it is a fake coz i got it from mlaccessories and someone else mentioned they got a fake from the same seller
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150083249068
However i wanted some of the experts to confirm an assumption i am making. i believe the REAL package comes with the LCD on the left of the earbuds where as the FAKE package has the LCD on the right of the earbuds again i am not 100% sure about this coz i don't have one yet(neither real nor fake) but i am posting some pictures from the supposed good seller ioak(TOP PICTURE) and from my presumed fake seller mlaccessories(BOTTON PICTURE)
pls confirm.... coz i am not so sure if the actual plastic cover can move around either way, again coz i don't have my fake yet hehehe
yip it is better to laugh than to cry i guess i will leave bad comments and follow your recomendations on not buying any accessories from HK (sad since i lived ther for 2 years, andi love it)
cheers and thank u all
thanx esato