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Posted by degraaff
Some pictures that I have taken with k750, using super camera driver 6.7:

























































[ This Message was edited by: degraaff on 2007-12-26 22:08 ]


Posted by leetiran

On 2007-12-26 11:20:01, Raiderski wrote:

leetiran
bug? where exactly? i don't see nothing strange. scene 04 in EM can be of course used but i had no free time to check how it's working. in EM code is shutter speed calculation from AE value, so scene 04 must be applied before calculation or after calculation. i have free time today and i will check this

[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2007-12-26 14:04 ]


Not always, but so often. for example, The Exif should be ISO 100, 1s, but it shows ISO 800, 1/5s.
I think the scene 04 appliction after calculation will be ok. Because the shutter speed calculation is to make iso=100, and scene 04 iso=100.

[ This Message was edited by: leetiran on 2007-12-27 03:06 ]

Posted by pram_zx
@degraaff
I see some blurry pictures, its out of focus on macro mode, why?
the driver or your hand shake?


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[ This Message was edited by: pram_zx on 2007-12-27 04:01 ]

[ This Message was edited by: pram_zx on 2007-12-27 04:35 ]

Posted by pram_zx
@W810i User
Sarmad has release Sarmad 6.0, its only for W810, not for k750/w800 because the aggressive setting....
Go for it...

http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=20252

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[ This Message was edited by: pram_zx on 2007-12-27 04:25 ]

[ This Message was edited by: pram_zx on 2007-12-27 05:31 ]

Posted by hemnath123
Pictures taken from Raiderski v6.6.1 driver.

The 1st picture is taken from moving bus at 40 kmph








Posted by pram_zx
Then I know what the meaning of aggressive settings mean by sarmad on Sarmad v6.0

I ask:
@Sarmad
Just want to know, what compressione in normal and fine quality, is the same? is 95%?
Thanx B4 for your reply
Cheers...


Sarmad says:
The quality setting is at 100% in both normal and fine.
As before, Fine quality gives longer exposure than Normal.. that's the only difference between the two.


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[ This Message was edited by: pram_zx on 2007-12-27 08:49 ]

Posted by wickedsick
Sarmad 6.0 is the same as 5.8 apart from the fact that compression is at 100%. Therefore, the quality is the same. I dont understand what took him a long time to release a new version for just higher compression ???

Posted by degraaff

On 2007-12-27 02:57:15, pram_zx wrote:
@degraaff
I see some blurry pictures, its out of focus on macro mode, why?
the driver or your hand shake?



My hand shaked because it was cold outside

Posted by 679
Raiderski,
Thx a lot for new 6.7.
I try 6.7 after long sticking to 21.92 for K750 CID36. Of course i configure 6.7 to be most like 21.92. It was easy.
Also i adjust some lines in result driver to match my needs.

// ------------------------- CUSTOMIZE INITIALS
WORK_AS_STANDARD= $s0 02;
EM_IN_QUALITY= $-1 01;
SHARPNESS= 04;
BRIGHTNESS= 00;
CONTRAST= 00;
SATURATION= 04;
SATURATION_SS= 01;
EXPOSURE= $-0 09;
FILTERING= $s0 01;
AF_MACRO_SCAN_MODE= $s0 00;
FOCUS_PREVIEW_ZOOM= 08;
JQ_NORMAL= $s2 59;
JQ_FINE= $s2 5a;
Seem these lines are OK?

As i like fast shooting even with little noise, so i've changed

EM_RATIO_NORMAL= $s0 3b;
EM_RATIO_NIGHT= $s0 3b;
Than i have EM exposure up to 1/6 and ISO upto 500 with suitable noise.
and for ENM 1s max and ISO 160.

And i like max zoom for pictures 2X and for video 4X.
so my changing:

// digital zoom
ZOOM_PHOTO=$s0 46 $s1 %0 $-0 r1 $<0 5 $/0 1e; // ZOOM 2X
ZOOM_VIDEO=$s0 64 $<0 3 $s1 %0 $<1 4 $-0 r1 $/0 0a; // ZOOM 4X

Thats all. And i enjoy with shooting but discovered one problem.
When i am in MACRO + zoom 1.1-4.0 i'm shooting without autofocusing. It is OK.
But when i turn off macro, and set zoom 1.0 i cant return to autofocus mode. Immediatly after shutter half-pressed i've got this green small frame. And even after swithing to VR mode the same effect.
Only after camera cover reopening i can use autofocus and zoom.

I cant connect my seems lite changes with this problem.
Does anybody have the same effect in 6.7?

THX.




Posted by Raiderski
hi

leetiran
yep, exif problem confirmed. i know what is wrong

679
1. changes are ok
2. try this:
macro on, x1.1, macro off, x1.0 (AF probably isn't working at this moment), x1.1, x1.0 (AF should work)

give me results and send me your code at PM


so, 6.7.1 should be available soon, maybe today



Posted by 679

On 2007-12-27 13:57:24, Raiderski wrote:

679
1. changes are ok
2. try this:
macro on, x1.1, macro off, x1.0 (AF probably isn't working at this moment), x1.1, x1.0 (AF should work)


Sorry, 2 doesn't work. I sent driver text on PM.

Posted by Raiderski
679
after small investigation:

1. i cannot reproduce this bug on original 6.7
2. this bug appears only in modified code sent by you

so, your modification causing this. i will look closer at this today to find out where exactly is problem. hold on with changes - i have almost ready 6.7.1 which will be available today

Posted by 6Y5RL
Hi all,
I am pleased to see the high interest in improving the W810i canera quality and would like to install the Sarnad 6.0 files on my w810i.

Please tell me how to get the onto the phone. Thanks.

Posted by 679

On 2007-12-27 14:51:05, Raiderski wrote:
679
after small investigation:

1. i cannot reproduce this bug on original 6.7
2. this bug appears only in modified code sent by you

so, your modification causing this. i will look closer at this today to find out where exactly is problem. hold on with changes - i have almost ready 6.7.1 which will be available today



Thx. I strongly suppose it is becouse i replace zoom expressions. You calculate it in your line, i place the result expression for 2X and 4X. But have not enough expeirence to kill this bug . Hope for you help...

Posted by leetiran

On 2007-12-27 15:12:50, 679 wrote:

On 2007-12-27 14:51:05, Raiderski wrote:
679
after small investigation:

1. i cannot reproduce this bug on original 6.7
2. this bug appears only in modified code sent by you

so, your modification causing this. i will look closer at this today to find out where exactly is problem. hold on with changes - i have almost ready 6.7.1 which will be available today



Thx. I strongly suppose it is becouse i replace zoom expressions. You calculate it in your line, i place the result expression for 2X and 4X. But have not enough expeirence to kill this bug . Hope for you help...


you should set x1.0 in macro mode, and then turn macro off. Otherwise, your problem will be there. if you set zoom=xX.0, and turn on macro, the similar problem will be there. it cant be called bug, because this make zoom and manual focuse funtions work together.

[ This Message was edited by: leetiran on 2007-12-27 14:44 ]

Posted by 679


you should set x1.0 in macro mode, and then turn macro off. Otherwise, your problem will be there. if you set zoom=xX.0, and turn on macro, the similar problem will be there. it cant be called bug, because this make zoom and manual focuse funtions work together.



Ah yep! it solved the bug. But its a bit borring every time set zoom 1.0 before switching MACRO off as i don't use al other 6.7 functions...

Posted by leetiran

On 2007-12-27 15:52:24, 679 wrote:


you should set x1.0 in macro mode, and then turn macro off. Otherwise, your problem will be there. if you set zoom=xX.0, and turn on macro, the similar problem will be there. it cant be called bug, because this make zoom and manual focuse funtions work together.



Ah yep! it solved the bug. But its a bit borring every time set zoom 1.0 before switching MACRO off as i don't use al other 6.7 functions...


i think putting #RESET_FOCUS after SET_ZOOM= will be work

Posted by 679
Leetiran

<>

Thx, will try...

Posted by leetiran
or #WORK_AS_STANDARD $c0 02 #RESET_FOCUS $cx

Posted by Raiderski
this isn't bug, this is normal behavior. strange? not at all you selected driver type "standard + manual focus" which can explain everything

in 21.92:
1. macro on -> change focus -> macro off -> zoom is applied* -> snapshot key press -> autofocus restored, focus canceled**
2. macro off -> change zoom -> macro on -> focus is applied* -> snapshot key press -> zoom canceled***

* - bad (settings lost)
** - very bad (settings lost, focus sytem transition from manual to auto)
*** - bad (settings lost), this is part of manual focus close-up preview

you cannot control zoom and focus together


in 6.7.1 (type "standard + manual focus"):
1. macro on -> change focus -> macro off -> no reaction* -> snapshot key press -> no reaction**
2. macro off -> change zoom -> macro on -> no reaction* -> snapshot key press -> ***

* - good (no settings lost), at this point you can chage zoom/focus before snapshot
** - good (you can control zoom here without changes in focus)
*** - two variants:
- snapshot key full press: good, picture saved with good zoom and focus
- snapshot key half press and release: bad (settings lost), zoom canceled, this is part of manual focus close-up preview

as you can see you have two ways to control zoom and focus together. that's why i decided to not copy 21.92 behaviors

which one is better?

679

But its a bit borring every time set zoom 1.0 before switching MACRO off as i don't use al other 6.7 functions...


i don't understand. what for turn off macro if you can control only one function (focus/zoom) in 21.92? after manual focus setup you will just loose focus settings and distort zoom

in 6.7 (type "standard + manual focus") you don't have any other functions than zoom and focus


[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2007-12-27 22:21 ]

Posted by pram_zx
DOWN TO PAGE 2 ???
UP UP UP !!!

Posted by 679
Raiderski, Leetiran,

Well, well, well guys. You are right.
I just want "to keep in my new car my old handly cofeecup holder". But new one has more opportunities. Its just a time to get used new one.
Any way thx a lot for advises and explanations...

Posted by 679
Raiderski
BTW, have you publised 6.7.1 already or i missed it?

Posted by Raiderski
not yet. i'm working on it right now. release is stopped, you must decide:

what type of work should "standard + manual focus" represent?

1. original Kriomag/Sarmad with only one function (zoom/focus) control:

a) macro on -> off = manual focus canceled (autofocus restored), zoom can be set
b) macro off -> on = zoom canceled, focus can be set


2. extended

a) macro on -> off = manual focus untouched, zoom can be set *
b) macro off -> on = zoom untouched, focus can be set **

* - zoom changes will not destroy manual focus (they are working together)
** - after snapshot (with proper zoom and focus) zoom will be canceled due to: manual focus preview x1/x4 screen switching

3. other idea?

[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2007-12-28 18:01 ]

Posted by loucostanza
Sample of my skies' collection
Some of them has been edited with Photoshop/Picasa (especially for color correction), because sometimes I could not get the ideal condition to take the pictures.
Btw, sorry for gave you the collaged photos (I have only gprs connection). But I can still give you the original one if you want it.

Please enjoy



Posted by Kriomag

On 2007-12-28 15:58:22, Raiderski wrote:

what type of work should "standard + manual focus" represent?

a) macro on -> off = manual focus untouched, zoom can be set *

* - zoom changes will not destroy manual focus (they are working together)


i use something like this in 21.93 BETA

Macro ON: Set Focus (using MFP - ManualFocusPreview) -> Macro OFF: Set Zoom (Focus untouched).

I think its the best way


PS. My newest BETA-s are here:
http://kriomag.4shared.com


Posted by Raiderski
2:0 for solution #2 (me and Kriomag). more votes or we can close this 'pool' and implement solution #2?

loucostanza
very nice!


Posted by 679

On 2007-12-28 19:56:11, Raiderski wrote:
2:0 for solution #2 (me and Kriomag). more votes or we can close this 'pool' and implement solution #2?



Sorry guys, i prefer solution#1 as fastest way be ready for spontanius snaps. I am not sure have got enough votes, especialy if i am not modder. But maybe it is possible to issue "special" eddition 21.92 or cutted version "6.7 Very Lite" both based on 6.7 with its exelent WB and possibilities to adjust some parameters in CUSTOMER sections. Thx

Posted by Kriomag

On 2007-12-28 19:16:53, loucostanza wrote:
Sample of my skies' collection

Nice!

I also have (mini) collection

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My favorite one:
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[ This Message was edited by: Kriomag on 2007-12-28 21:17 ]

Posted by 679


[ This Message was edited by: 679 on 2007-12-28 20:19 ]

Posted by Raiderski
[irony]
Kriomag don't pretend, after all everyone can see that those pics are renderings hehe
[/irony]

[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2007-12-28 19:54 ]

Posted by Raiderski

Sorry guys, i prefer solution#1 as fastest way be ready for spontanius snaps.


with #2 you are ready for fast (spontaneous) shots too:

AF = autofocus
INF = infinity focus

1. cam open (macro mode is on) -> AF shot
2. cam open (macro mode is on) -> once pressed '+' key -> INF shot
3. cam open (macro mode is off) -> AF shot
4. cam open (macro mode is off) -> many times '+' key -> AF shot with zoom

you will like it - believe me

Posted by 679

On 2007-12-28 21:34:34, Raiderski wrote:

Sorry guys, i prefer solution#1 as fastest way be ready for spontanius snaps.


with #2 you are ready for fast (spontaneous) shots too:

AF = autofocus
INF = infinity focus

1. cam open (macro mode is on) -> AF shot
2. cam open (macro mode is on) -> once pressed '+' key -> INF shot
3. cam open (macro mode is off) -> AF shot
4. cam open (macro mode is off) -> many times '+' key -> AF shot with zoom

you will like it - believe me



I got used it already particle in 21.92 and can add:

5. Macro on - 10 fast pressing + -> you've got 2.0, its hypefocal distanse. ALL pictures in 1-10 m range will be sharp without long annoing AF.


Posted by Kriomag

On 2007-12-28 21:34:34, Raiderski wrote:

2. cam open (macro mode is on) -> once pressed '+' key -> INF shot



I always use this option when i am outside house

Posted by ukaszek

On 2007-12-28 20:44:27, Kriomag wrote:

On 2007-12-28 19:16:53, loucostanza wrote:
Sample of my skies' collection

Nice!

I also have (mini) collection

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My favorite one:
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[ This Message was edited by: Kriomag on 2007-12-28 21:17 ]



Photos of the year !!!

Ostatnia fotka to najlepsza jaka widzialem na tym forum Wkrótce zmieniam na k800i (choć troche ordynarnie wygląda) i oczywiście czekam na Twoje sterowniki do tego modelu, bo sa najlepsze !!
Pozdrawiam i zycze szczesliwego Nowego Roku !

Posted by leetiran

On 2007-12-28 20:44:27, Kriomag wrote:

On 2007-12-28 19:16:53, loucostanza wrote:
Sample of my skies' collection

Nice!

I also have (mini) collection

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My favorite one:
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[ This Message was edited by: Kriomag on 2007-12-28 21:17 ]


So beautiful!

Posted by Kriomag

On 2007-12-29 03:39:08, ukaszek wrote:
Wkrótce zmieniam na k800i (choć troche ordynarnie wygląda) i oczywiście czekam na Twoje sterowniki do tego modelu, bo sa najlepsze !!
Pozdrawiam i zycze szczesliwego Nowego Roku !

Dzięki, Nawzajem

K800i, if only i could afford one Maybe in few months... but then k800i will be so old and everyone will have k850i


PS. To all: PLZ do not quote with pictures!

[ This Message was edited by: Kriomag on 2007-12-29 12:32 ]

Posted by leetiran
Raiderski

On 2007-12-28 19:56:11, Raiderski wrote:
2:0 for solution #2 (me and Kriomag). more votes or we can close this 'pool' and implement solution #2?

solution #2 is better for funtion, but may be bad for the one who reads usage uncarefully. And I think most people read uncarefully. So for reducing confusion, #1 may be better. for me, i preffer #1, be

[ This Message was edited by: leetiran on 2007-12-29 20:01 ]

Posted by Raiderski
yep, most people read manual uncarefully or don't read at all or they don't understand english. well, i can't help them. after many months spent on esato forum and on various polish forums i can say that many people are expecting too much from 2MP/3MP and drivers. they doesn't know how to use drivers, why picture is blurry, why it's overexposed, why it's noised etc. sometimes this is quite funny but then i realize how impossible is to satisfy everyone

Posted by Mazahaka
@Kriomag

can give original shoots?

[ This Message was edited by: Mazahaka on 2007-12-29 13:03 ]

Posted by dzonitebra
W800i cid49 > Sarmad 5.8








Posted by Kriomag

On 2007-12-29 14:01:44, Mazahaka wrote:
@Kriomag
can give original shoots?


You really want to see all this noise?

(i used neat image on those posted earlier)

Ok, here are ugly originals
http://www.4shared.com/file/33313064/16eb0864/Krios.html (download it today because tomorrow i will remove this file from server)

Posted by evilhomura89
For Sarmad 6.0, since it will producing pictures with size up to 700KB...is there any way to change the jpeg compression setting so that I can get filesize about 200-300KB?

Posted by Mazahaka
@Kriomag
nice pics!!!


hear some my shoots
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/faysto/images

Posted by razvan89
How can i activate super camera mode in driver 8.54?Driver 8.54 is in connection with driver 8.52?Sorry for bad english.

Posted by pRo_lama
Sarmad´s 6 - CID49 R4EA031 W810i
- really good cam driver Look at my pics. What do you think ???







Posted by Raiderski
that's not good/bad camdriver can do good and interesting photo but person behind the camera snapshot button pics are very nice, i wish to have a bit of snow on my pics. december in Poland without snow WTF?!

Posted by loucostanza
Raiderski
Thanks for generous comment

Kriomag
Thanks for generous comment. Sorry I couldn't give your photos the same comment, because.....I'm so speechless...
You have successfully made me jealous
I can only hope that one day I can have both of your photography and editing skills.
When will that day come? Still need a lot of hard working I think

Today's sky photo:
(auto contrast only using Picasa, the rest is original)



[ This Message was edited by: loucostanza on 2007-12-29 19:01 ]

Posted by Kriomag

On 2007-12-29 19:50:24, loucostanza wrote:
Raiderski
Thanks for generous comment

Kriomag
Thanks for generous comment. Sorry I couldn't give your photos the same comment, because.....I'm so speechless...
You have successfully made me jealous
I can only hope that one day I can have both of your photography and editing skills.
When will that day come? Still need a lot of hard working I think

Photography skills? I was on my way to work and i saw nice sky i just made photo
Then i used neat image to remove noise, then i've resized, sharpened it with Faststone Image Viewer thats it, no editing skills at all (i dont even have photoshop on my computer) hehe

[ This Message was edited by: Kriomag on 2007-12-29 19:49 ]

Posted by leetiran
razvan89
there are no special super mode in 8.54 which is different from 8.52


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