Posted by BOSSHOGG
These are with raiders last two drivers...
Posted by whatsucka
On 2007-10-17 19:22:58, gooniegoogoo wrote:
I also think sarmad's driver (i'm using 5.7) suits my taste. Easy to use, manual focus for even sharper pics, EM mode, and good compatibility with MXE-60. I be using w800 R1BC002.
is that the white FC RX-7 from initial D?? omg i love dat car!!
[ This Message was edited by: whatsucka on 2007-10-19 06:20 ]
Posted by trushv
Hi,
Does this(camera driver v8.54) support the CID36 R1BC002 of w800?
thanks
Posted by leetiran
On 2007-10-19 08:07:44, trushv wrote:
Hi,
Does this(camera driver v8.54) support the CID36 R1BC002 of w800?
thanks
Yes, it does.
Posted by dukempg
Thanks for your reply also would the Ridersky 6.6 in enhanced mode work or would it be out of sync like the A4A 9.1 driver ?
If I recall correctly it doesn't, but you shouldn't use it with enhanced mode. Enhanced Mode always use a higher exposure time, what doesn't make sense with flash when you want a very short exposure (i.e. when the flahs comes out only). But you can enable the filtering used in EM using ridersky config tool.
@cronos555
Try it, you won't regret
Make sure you see the changes with photos in real size (i.e. not resizing to fit screen), otherwise you can miss it. [ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-19 12:40 ]
Posted by dukempg
@lpachuong
Found a bug with manual shutter speed on A4A-9.1, EV 1.0/Zoom 1.1 will give Shutter speed 1/400 instead of 1/5000 as it would be expected. Tested on CID36 W800. However I suspect only the EXIF info is being recorded mistaken, since the shot with 1/5000 with Ridersky doesn't look bmore brigth than 1/400 with A4A (and it should be).
Edit: Actually Ridersky is doing 1/5000 ISO 800 while A4A is doing 1/400 ISO 100, using the same settings. Notice that I didn't touch iso Settings whe using A4A. I'll try that and report back.
Edit2: Tried playing with A4A ISO Settings (EV -0.3) but it seems not to make any difference.
[ This Message was edited by: on 2007-10-19 21:38 ]
Posted by xxdjrerunxx
On 2007-10-19 13:34:26, dukempg wrote:
Thanks for your reply also would the Ridersky 6.6 in enhanced mode work or would it be out of sync like the A4A 9.1 driver ?
If I recall correctly it doesn't, but you shouldn't use it with enhanced mode. Enhanced Mode always use a higher exposure time, what doesn't make sense with flash when you want a very short exposure (i.e. when the flahs comes out only). But you can enable the filtering used in EM using ridersky config tool.
@cronos555
Try it, you won't regret
Make sure you see the changes with photos in real size (i.e. not resizing to fit screen), otherwise you can miss it.
[ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-19 12:40 ]
Alright thanks for your help it means a lot.
Posted by lpachuong
Good Morning everyone and have a nice weekend.
It has been a long time since I last visited here. I'm glad that this topic is still very hot with some new members. I have been quite busy with my study and haven't spend much time for extra activities (So sorry for not replying you). Next week is study week so I will have one easier week
So far, I'm still playing with the firmware for the patches of ISO-Exposure-Sharpness but there are still bugs. When I finish I will post the patches here.
However, from the last version, there are some limits you found out and I have created this one:
A4A 9.2 - All in one
http://www.mediafire.com/?4yzbimzosd9
This is version for all of the phone. Please try it first and tell me about noise/sharpness/exposure/colour. Then I will create seperate drivers for different compression.
Hope you all enjoy it.
Your sincerely,
Chuong (My teachers call me Ju
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Please save our world. Save our world to save our lives and our generation.
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[ This Message was edited by: lpachuong on 2007-10-20 12:24 ]
Posted by paparazy
Shot day quality normal (size jpg 401kb) k750 cid49 red Raider camdriver v6.6 (no work enhanced night cid49)
Shot day quality normal (size jpg 270kb) k750 cid49 red PaParazy camdriver v1.90 update 7
Shot day quality normal (size jpg 270kb) k750 cid49 red EV 1.0 PaParazy camdriver v1.90 update 7
friends post photos! include mod. cel
Topic forum PaParazy for Download: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=147234
Topic forum Chengrong: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=135737
Posted by dukempg
D So far, I'm still playing with the firmware for the patches of ISO-Exposure-Sharpness but there are still bugs. When I finish I will post the patches here.
However, from the last version, there are some limits you found out and I have created this one:
A4A 9.2 - All in one
@lpachuong
Thanks for the new release!
I did a test with my CID36 W800 regarding the exposure bug above and unfortunatelly it seems to be still there.
EV 1.0 - Zoom 1.1 - Bright scene: Resulting exposure 1/1250 ISO 100
EV 1.0 - Zoom 1.1 - low light scene: Resulting exposure 1/500 ISO 100
EV 1.0 - Zoom 1.2 - low light scene: Resulting exposure 1/400 ISO 100
EV 1.0 - Zoom 1.3 - low light scene: Resulting exposure 1/320 ISO 100
I believe it should always give exposure 1/5000 at zoom 1.1, and 1/2500 at zoom 1.2 regardless of the subject, correct?
Posted by lpachuong
So that value is still high for w800i cid36? Howabout colour/noise and sharpness? Please try this sharpness before you change it back to 00
Could you please do me a favour?
Here is the code for exposure:
EM= $p1 0d
$c1 00
$p1 0e
$c1 00
05 01 00 23 01 $f $r2 1 1
$m0 1 $/0 28
$c0 00
$m0 1 $/0 03
$c0 00
$cl
$s0 3F $-0 r1
#CMD(04,$w0)
$cx
$cx
$cx
$cx;
Please change the value of 3F to 3d or 3e. I am waiting for your reply. Thank you.
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Please save our world. Save our world to save our lives and our generation.
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[ This Message was edited by: lpachuong on 2007-10-20 16:05 ]
[ This Message was edited by: lpachuong on 2007-10-20 16:16 ]
Posted by wickedsick
A new great driver. Everything is fine so far. Exposure is lower than the previous driver but I tested with value 3e, I found it is very good and bright enough. Your driver doesnt give exact value of shutterspeed as raiderski is it bcz raiderski's doesn't have EM on whereas your driver always has EM on?
Posted by dukempg
@lpachuong
Using 3D:
EV 1.0 Zoom 1.1 Dark subject: Exposure 1/500 ISO 100
EV 1.0 Zoom 1.1 Bright subject: Exposure 1/1600 ISO 100
EV 1.0 Zoom 1.2 Dark subject: Exposure 1/400 ISO 100
EV 1.0 Zoom 1.2 Bright subject: Exposure 1/1600 ISO 100
Using 3E
EV 1.0 Zoom 1.1 Dark subject: Exposure 1/500 ISO 100
EV 1.0 Zoom 1.1 Bright subject: Exposure 1/1250 ISO 100
EV 1.0 Zoom 1.2 Dark subject: Exposure 1/400 ISO 100
EV 1.0 Zoom 1.2 Bright subject: Exposure 1/1000 ISO 100
Edit: Ridersky driver can get this value correct all the time, but ISO varies... Maybe there's some tip there? I'll do some tests on color and noise, but this is harder to compare since is more subject
[ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-20 16:32 ]
Posted by dukempg
On 2007-10-20 17:20:05, wickedsick wrote:
A new great driver. Everything is fine so far. Exposure is lower than the previous driver but I tested with value 3e, I found it is very good and bright enough. Your driver doesnt give exact value of shutterspeed as raiderski is it bcz raiderski's doesn't have EM on whereas your driver always has EM on?
You can disable EM by changing Picture Quality to Normal. BTW all my tests were done with EM off.
EDIT: Tested with EM On, same results.
[ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-20 16:47 ]
Posted by wickedsick
I know lpachuong's driver has slower shutterspeed but his driver always produce iso 100 which is good and better than other values of iso. I have tested 3d as well but it is quite dark in low light condition, 3e is the most suitable value.
Posted by dukempg
On 2007-10-20 18:29:29, wickedsick wrote:
I know lpachuong's driver has slower shutterspeed but his driver always produce iso 100 which is good and better than other values of iso. I have tested 3d as well but it is quite dark in low light condition, 3e is the most suitable value.
I agree that it's always better to use ISO 100.
The point is that the EV 1.0 were supposed to give fixed Shutter Speed values (i.e. Zoom 1.1 shutter 1/5000, Zoom 1.2 shutter 1/2500 etc) and this is not working like that. I would like this to work to try a manual shutter speed guide that has been posted by cronos555. 
But I am not aware if it's technically possible to pinpoint the shutter speed while keeping ISO fixed in 100.
Posted by moonmoth
Does someone know how to get rid of shaky hands? =)
Posted by dukempg
On 2007-10-20 19:27:00, moonmoth wrote:
Does someone know how to get rid of shaky hands? =)
Natural answer would be: "get a tripod"
The problem is to find a tripod that can be used with K750/W800. I have seen one on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SonyErics[....]eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
But it only sells as a add-on for people that buy the K800 telescope...
I have asked the seller if there was a way I could buy just the tripod but no reply [ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-20 18:41 ]
Posted by dukempg
@lpachuong
Ok, I found out exposure is fine, as long as you keep your setting in something that makes sense lol. Here's what I did: pointed my camera to the sun, set shutter speed to 1/5000 (EV 1.0 Zoom 1.2 with lpachuong driver). Perfect, 1/5000 ISO 100 picture. Then I pointed a camera to a indoor place. Got a dark picture with ISO 100 and 1/400 shutter. Then I pointed the camera back to the sun, and increased the shutter speed to 1/3200, 1/2500 and so on (ev 1.0 zoom 1.3,1.4,...). Values came out perfect.
So the shutter speed is working fine in normal photo situations. The problem is that I was trying to shot unreal situations just to test this feature, i.e., shoot indoor with 1/5000. This doesn't make sense in real life.
To shot shutter speed difference, I'll post the pictures of my test. Sharpness was disabled for better post processing so please take this in account. (=0)
Shutter 1/5000
Shutter 1/3200
Shutter 1/2500
Shutter 1/2000
Shutter 1/1600
Shutter 1/1250
Shutter 1/60
Posted by rajesh14
Hi,
I haven been trying out Raiderski Supermode 6.6. These pics have been taken with no configuration at all on the supermode, they were taken with default values. Judge for yourselves. (Max resolution 2mp)
Posted by dukempg
@rajesh14
For this pics, try manually setting focus to infinity (EV 0 Zoom 1.1). You should use focus infinity for any pic where the subject is 4 or more meters away from you. You can also change metering to spot off. Focus of picture #2 and #3 seems to be near which I don`t think was what you intended...
[ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-20 22:37 ]
Posted by cronos555
@dukempg
i tried using neat image to clean up the night shots. it works really well. i haven't tried with setting sharpness to 0 though.
as for the sun shots you posted, try changing wb to cloudy and also playing with magenta wb ... you get some really cool effects. it can make the sun and the whole scene look warmer. though, i realize you just posted those shots to show shutter speed ...
wb all auto
cloudy wb setting in the menu
auto wb, increase in magenta wb
Posted by dukempg
@cronos555
My idea was to show shutter speed effect, but I really liked the magenta tunned picture, very cool effect!
As for disabling sharpness, check my second post here why it's important, I posted a comparisson when I first discovered this method:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=135737&start=7005
@lpachuong
tested the new 9.2, but I found the pictures blurred and less noisy than 9.1, as if some filtering was being applied even in normal mode...
[ This Message was edited by: on 2007-10-21 12:20 ]
Posted by krzychu
On 2007-10-20 23:36:37, dukempg wrote:
For this pics, try manually setting focus to infinity (EV 0 Zoom 1.1). You should use focus infinity for any pic where the subject is 4 or more meters away from you. You can also change metering to spot off. Focus of picture #2 and #3 seems to be near which I don`t think was what you intended...
it seems to be a good idea
i'll check it later
thanks
@lpachuong
i have checked your A4A 9.1 and in my opinion it takes blury photos
the older versions eg. 8.1 doesn't takes so blury photos
before i forget my phone is k750i@w800i R1BC002 cid 49
anyway thanks for a driver, good job
Posted by lpachuong
Thank you all for that information. Now could you please change CMD(56,0e) back to CMD(56,06) and tell me whether noise is here or not. I dont know why the sharpness at 0e is very good on my phone. I will post some pictures to prove this
Posted by krzychu
i can't find CMD(56,0e) in 9.1 but i found it in 9.2
tomorrow i'll test your driver with changed sharpness settings, and also test standart 9.2 and tell you results
maybe i'll took some photos with raiderski 6.6 to compare it with photos from yours driver
Posted by moonmoth
On 2007-10-20 19:39:38, dukempg wrote:
On 2007-10-20 19:27:00, moonmoth wrote:
Does someone know how to get rid of shaky hands? =)
Natural answer would be: "get a tripod"
The problem is to find a tripod that can be used with K750/W800. I have seen one on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SonyErics[....]eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
But it only sells as a add-on for people that buy the K800 telescope...
I have asked the seller if there was a way I could buy just the tripod but no reply
[ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-20 18:41 ]
yeah, after Your post, i tried to search for it, but no result too.. that would be a useful device
Posted by rajesh14
On 2007-10-20 23:36:37, dukempg wrote:
@rajesh14
For this pics, try manually setting focus to infinity (EV 0 Zoom 1.1). You should use focus infinity for any pic where the subject is 4 or more meters away from you. You can also change metering to spot off. Focus of picture #2 and #3 seems to be near which I don`t think was what you intended...
[ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-20 22:37 ]
Hi !! Thanks for the advice !! I will do that next time. I have just started to learn how to use all EV and Zoom values but sometimes when I use EV +0.7 Zoom 1.1 for pictures in low light conditions (eg. inside a pub at night time) I have to be very steady with my hands as it takes up a very long time to process the picture and save it (sometimes 3 to 4 seconds in night mode), if I slightly shake my finger for a quarter of a second the picture comes out blurry.
Posted by rajesh14
Sorry, just to make a correction. I was talking about EV +07 Zoom 1.2 (instead of 1.1). 1.2 is when it takes up a long time to store the picture and you should avoid shaky hands.
Posted by dukempg
@rajesh14
To take people pics at low light condition, it's better to use the external flash accessory MXE-60. I posted a comparisson here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=135737&start=7140
The problem is that real people keep moving, so even if you manage to don't shake your hands, people will move and blur the photo. MXE-60 kills the need of stillness, and coupled with post-processing you can make near digital camera quality at night (again, check the samples in the link)
@all
I made a new wallet reference guide. The idea of this guide is to keep it in the wallet, so you don't risk forgetting the guide and missing it when you needed most. This guide contains Ridersky default options plus the "Ultimate Exposure Computer" shutter recommendations adapted to Ridersky drivers. You can get it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/64337939/Manual_c_mera.doc.html
And here's how it looks like in your wallet!
I high recommend reading the "Ultimate Exposure Computer" here:
http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm
[ This Message was edited by: dukempg on 2007-10-22 13:19 ]
Posted by Milu
I modifided a little theme Wave for Strong 5.5 driver, now the theme is more funcional...
Polish version
Theme in polish
image:
This is the same theme in english version:
In english
image:
strong 5.5
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[ This Message was edited by: Milu on 2007-10-22 15:23 ]
[ This Message was edited by: Milu on 2007-10-22 15:24 ]
Posted by dukempg
@Milu
Interesting idea too!
Posted by Milu
You know. i think its good for people who dont remember all settings
Posted by Sombra
Buffer size for photos in K750 is limited at only 600Kb? Have any solution for increase the size with firmware modification?
Sorry for my poor english!
Posted by moonmoth
dukempg, thank You very much, man! I am too lazy to make smth like that =)
Posted by dukempg
On 2007-10-22 18:54:40, Sombra wrote:
Buffer size for photos in K750 is limited at only 600Kb? Have any solution for increase the size with firmware modification?
Yes it is
And I don't know any firmware mod to change this. A4A 9.1 driver has a workaround: it first tries to save at 98% compression and when it fails it uses a lower compression. It's an alternative...
Posted by lpachuong
On 2007-10-22 20:57:36, moonmoth wrote:
.......
The buffersize on w810i is different from that on w800i/k750i. w810i can be set up 700kb+ whereas w800i/k750i max value is only 616kb. This different is caused by the capacity of the rom size, not bcz of the cam module.
Posted by whatsucka
can someone post the link for A4A 9.2?? im using A4A 9.0 rite now in w800 n when i take micro n night mode with default settings i get these...
and yep i juz got my God of War Demo!!
the pics look great in the fone screen but after i put in comp is so bad, not really bad juz a lot noise...
outdoor pics r awesome
Posted by lpachuong
Here you are: 9.2 fixed http://www.mediafire.com/?6sedxmytxx0 Enjoy.
Posted by strong
@Milu
Perfect cat and shots Can you remind me your firmware?
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[ This Message was edited by: strong on 2007-10-22 23:39 ]
Posted by lpachuong
Posted by whatsucka
well b4 i upgrade to 9.2 is dat some sort of glitch in 9.0 dat cause so much noise in nite mode??
ok juz update to 9.2, yes the noise is been reduce a bit but still a lot using default settings in night mode
any help??
petty good when it is bright
[ This Message was edited by: whatsucka on 2007-10-23 06:26 ]
[ This Message was edited by: whatsucka on 2007-10-23 07:18 ]
Posted by Milu
@Strong
offcourse i can..
k750@w800 r1bd001 cid49 red
oh. when u realise 5.6 camdriver??
Posted by dukempg
On 2007-10-22 23:27:25, whatsucka wrote:
the pics look great in the fone screen but after i put in comp is so bad, not really bad juz a lot noise...
Ok, I hope I am not spamming the thread, but the only way I found to remove noise without killing details is using noise remover software. I have written a guide about this, check here: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=156756
Posted by lpachuong
Sorry about this out-topic question: Does anyone what is the highest score can we get in QuadraPoP when we start with lvl9? I played with lvl 9 and my highest score stops at 99999. Thank you.
Posted by F-Lexx
Is there a way to set a fixed ISO value using Raider's driver? I want to try "The ultimate exposure computer" from http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm .
Posted by dukempg
On 2007-10-23 17:59:25, F-Lexx wrote:
Is there a way to set a fixed ISO value using Raider's driver? I want to try "The ultimate exposure computer" from http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm .
Ridersky Drivers will try to give the lowest ISO possible, so in the absolute majority of cases it will give you ISO 100. Eventually it can give different ISO but only if you try something not practical (like shooting indoors with 1/5000 shutter speed). Also it can give ISO 80 on w810. So you can assume ISO 100. I have made a small reference card, check my posts.
Posted by F-Lexx
Thanks for your reply, I've already made some prints with the EV tables. Tomorrow I'll go and make some photos.
[ This Message was edited by: F-Lexx on 2007-10-23 18:12 ]
Posted by chiliseo
On A4A code...
EM= $p1 0d
$c1 00
$p1 0e
$c1 00
05 01 00 23 01 $f $r2 1 1
$m0 1 $/0 28
$c0 00
$m0 1 $/0 03
$c0 00
$cl
$s0 3e $-0 r1
#CMDEM(04,$w0)
$cx
$cx
$cx
$cx;
I guess this value is for exposure time... or is for shutter speed? or is the same? I've seen 3d, 3e, 3f and 40 in this value
Which value is supposed to give less noise? and how affect this to exposure? cause i'm getting too much noise.
Posted by strong
is shuter speed and value 40 is for less noise