Posted by lamont
just wodnering what i would need to go wireless?
At the moment im on adsl but its slow and i think its because of the length of the cable. it goes from one side of my house to the other (at a guess about 8m of cable)
http://www.hotukdeals.com/dea[....]lo-54mbps-wireless-adsl-modem-
would i need anything else except that?
thanks
Posted by scottt
Thats all you need matey
Really is simple, i had the same predicament as you, a long cable stretching from downstairs to up and my speed was affected.
So i just bought a Belkin wireless router, ran the installer and voila had it working.
Posted by lamont
did it increase your speed? thanks
Posted by lamont
could anybody recommend a wireless router?
Posted by Danny_BFC
Belkin is great, but if your on a pc or laptop without wifi built in, you'll need an adaptor aswell. I bought my belkin for £20 from pc world, but have had some problems with it. You can see this in one of the threads below this one.
Posted by lamont
ye, iv been reading that thread.
im thinking either this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/pr[....]%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=560798
or the one in my 1st post, what you think? thanks
Posted by solidsingh
the long cable wont make a difference i was told.
Posted by lamont
iv been told it defo will
Posted by slattery69
was reading an article the other day in pcw i think it was. it said that people are lossing about 25% of there download speed through incorrect wiring using wires that are to long or plugging mulitiple sources into the main socket etc.
my mate had the same problem you did, he bought a wireless adsl router and his connection is running to its max potential now and he s never had a problem since.
Posted by lamont
cheers, i think i may have to get one. can anybody recommend one? thanks
Posted by slattery69
what are you using as your adsl modem at the min ? i quite like netgear stuff no real reason for that just thats what ive got and it was easy to set up for p2p etc.
my dad recently bought a belkin router for his cable broadband and that was easy to set up and works really well.
Posted by luigithfc
the one your buying is fine, as my mate nextdoor has exactly the same and it is absoultey amazing!
Posted by lamont
which one? the buffalo one or the netgear one? cheers
Posted by solidsingh
ive got a 15m long phone line extension and im not experiencing no speed loss
Posted by slattery69
i just posting what the article said. its said if your on a 1mb connection you probably wont notice it. once you get above this problems can occur and you can lose around 25% of your connection speed.
i would assume its not gospel and how close you are to the exchange will have a bearing ie if you live very close then you ll probably get away with it if you quite far away then extending the line further may cause a problem
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Posted by fatreg
suprised cyco not been in here?
fatreg
Posted by lamont
ye come on cyco!!
Posted by slattery69
the buffalo one looks better value for money as it comes with the usb adapter for £50
not sure if the netgear one does so you have to add that to the cost of it.
Posted by Cycovision
What? eh? Oh, Sorry
Errrrm, well my favourite wireles router is the netgear DG843G largely because it's highly compatible with UK ISPs and it's a doddle to set up usually. It's not the best out there feature-wise and it's not the cheapest, but it definately works!
I'm surprised about your wired connection though. I've slung 50 meters or more at a time of standard cat-5 ethernet cables around buildings between workstations, hubs, servers and routers and I've never seen a 25% drop in bandwidth on any particular machine
You sure you haven't got a dicky cable there? It's true that signal strength and therefore sometimes performance does drop in relation to cable length but it's not normally that bad. Is your ethernet cable run near any mains cables, phone lines, cable lines etc? Interference?
EDIT: Just read your PM! Are you sure it's not your distance from the exchange or the quality of your phone line / sockets that are causing the problem? I'm on 8Mb broadband but I only get 4-5Mb for those reasons
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Posted by slattery69
i wasnt refering to an ethernet line but a phone line. i may have got the wrong end of the stick, i thought the 8m extention was a phone line extesion not an ethernet line.
in which case if its ethernet you would nt see the drop of 25% as thats related to a phone line extention
Posted by Cycovision
@slattery
No, I got the wrong end of the stick hence the edit to my post
Posted by lamont
that wasnt me who said that i have a 25% less speed but i do think that my internet should be faster than it is. when i download something the fastest it will go is around 9-10kbps and on limewire is even slower and this is meant to be on a 1.1 mb connection.
The phone socket i plug my ethernet cable into also accomodates a sky+ box and wireless phone, not sure whether this will make a difference?
thanks
EDIT: the cable im referrring to is the one from my modem to the phone socket.
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Posted by slattery69
i see normally its me who hasnt read the post properly and put my foot in it.
Posted by fatreg
10k/s on 1mb..
could it not just be that your ISP is blocking P2P activity?
try and dl
http://www.fatreg.co.uk/files/tomtom_6_UIQ.zip
its 200mb and tell me what speeds you get!
cheers
Posted by luigithfc
buffalo mate!
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Posted by lamont
its going at 13kbps which is very good for me
. i have plugged my cable into my downstairs socket which may be the reason for this speed change therefore it mat be my socket which is buggered! grrr
Posted by lamont
according to broadband speedcheck my speeds is 0.2 mbps!
Downstream 198.4 Kbps ( = 0.2 Mbps )
Upstream 243.0 Kbps ( = 0.2 Mbps )
Posted by slattery69
whos your current isp, try that speed test and let us know the results.
also try this bt link put your phone number in and it ll tell you what the max you can get out of your line is. its not 100% accurate but it s results may give an idication of how far from the exchange you are
http://www.bt.com/athome/at_h[....].jsp&obsType=LINK&obsOID=46435
Posted by Cycovision
Yeah, this sounds like wiring or ISP to me too.
Have you tried unplugging all other phones / fax's etc. to see if there's an improvement?
Posted by slattery69
one other thing to test , you use limewire run any virus test or anti spy test recently ? do you get any pop ups or things? probably is isp or wiring but may as well start with things we can deal with straight away
Posted by lamont
im 100% sure its not virus's/spyware
it says :
'Our Records indicate that you have a product or service supplied to this line that is currently incompatible with broadband. You will need to have the product or service ceased before broadband could be provided. If you place an order before the incompatible product or service has been ceased then the order will be rejected.'
it use to say 1.5mbps.
Posted by lamont
what do you think the problem is?
Posted by slattery69
thats odd esp if it use to come back with 1.5mbs. is this something thats just started or have you always had the speed problem.
who supplies your broadband
Posted by Cycovision
How long has the problem been happening? Could it be that BT or another company (installing LLU) are messing about with your exchange?
If you're sure it's not the computer at fault then the next thing would be to ring the provider(s).
Posted by lamont
sorry forgot to mention that before my supplier is tiscali.
we have had quite a few problems. at some points we lost it altogether, then we got it back at 163kbps as they said that they had to put us on a different line while maintanence took place. Now weve got it back to 1.1 mbps but the speed isnt much different, we contacted tiscali 100's of times and got no where. they kept blaming it on one thing or another but both them and BT have said that it is an internal problem.
Posted by slattery69
how long you been a customer with them? first port of call is definatly tiscali, if youve been with them more than 12 months you can threaten to leave if they dont take action.
i would nt go to bt as they can charge you if its a broadband query and you dont use them for broadband, so try to get tiscali to contact bt. i
you sound like your speeds up and down which could be as cyco suggests work going on in the exchange but still i d have a chat with tiscali
you could try this link just put you number in and it will bring up info about the local exchange isnt always up to date but may have some work info thats going on.
also you can see if it is your nearest exchange by clicking on the map
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/phoneno.php
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Posted by lamont
we contacted both tiscali and BT numerous times and got nowhere
Posted by Cycovision
Yes, you've hit the common and eternal 'ISP blames BT blames you and vice-versa' connundrum!
Can you get NTL or Telewest? Ditch tiscali and BT and go with them. Sounds drastic, but given the amount of mucking about you've had It'd probably be for the best!
Posted by lamont
what are NTLand telewest? are they cable?
Posted by slattery69
agreed sounds like you done enough mucking around, if you can change i would consider it.
have a look at sky broadband if its in your area, they put there own equipment into bt s exchanges so they look after it. since youve got sky + you ll be able to get it, if you use that link sam knows it will tell you if youve any llu suppliers in your exchange look for easynet thats who sky bought to provide broadband
Posted by lamont
yup can get easynet and bulldog. whats bulldog like? thanks
Posted by slattery69
bulldogs has had some horror stories but that was a while ago, have a look on there forums or search the net see if theres any recent issues.
i seem to recall massuer has going to bulldog but not sure if he did or not.
yes ntl and telewest are cable, if available they come and run a cable to your house and set it up bit like sky will have done drill a hole in the wall and push a cable through. you can get just broadband or you may wish to change your telephone and tv to them as they can provide the lot.
if you can get telewest theyve gone hd and have a system similar to sky plus on there hd boxes, ntl are still trialing theres or they are were i live
Posted by lamont
is it worth going wireless do you think? thansk
Posted by slattery69
depends on were you want your computer in relation to the service you choose. if its cable they ll put the line were you ask (within reason) if your gonna go with sky or the like you ll still need to plug into the main phone line box.
i would nt think it would hurt to get a wireless router either way (just dont get one till you know which provider your changing to) sky give you one for free n bulldog charge about £50 extra for a wireless one.
also if you ve only got 1 comp you may get another in the future so you could share files stream music etc to it or download on one whilst surfing the net on the other.
Posted by haynesycop
I got a netgear DG834G works a treat!
Posted by Johnex
i just love dlink
i have the mimo version, works great with my p990
Posted by fatreg
i got the BT voyager 2100..
had no probs at all..
P990i, 9500, tnty all connect fine as does my mac, my mates laptop and my bros PSP..
is the 4th router i've had!!
oh an no im not on BT broadband!
fatreg
Posted by Berry
I am on a Linksys Wireless WAG354G and Tiscali and its works a treat. But i had to get a Modem/Router rather than a router alone.
I havent had problems on Tiscali apart from the whn the BT Exchange near me went tits up, but wasnt Tiscali.
In my old house, i have NTL and worked great but that was a fixed line (10m cable).
My two pence for you
Posted by lamont
cheers mate, wireless it is!