Posted by rss_ndrsn
On 2007-08-20 19:10:50, xumdeo wrote:
which part of the phone gives you the impression that it will have DVB-H? the screen that you cannot see, the antenna that you cannot see, or the extra branding logo that you can't see as if cybershot and SE are not enough?
this is interesting.
I think it has an internal antenna for DVB_H. Nokia already have two phones that support DVB-H with internal antenna so I don't think it will be impossible for SE to do the same.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
SE should really present a stylish feature-packed phone as soon as possible. LG has just announced a phone with-to-die features. If SE continues to lag behind on high-end phones, LG might catch up. You don't want that to happen especially if you have a big 100 million phones sales target by the end of the year.
I hope SE's a true ultra high-end and stylish phone is just around the corner waiting to be announced. It's the right time to make some noise and be heard.
Posted by kalleboo
Here's a fun tidbit: The side of the box for the HBH-DS980 earbuds says "For use with bluetooth equipped devices supporting A2DP such as: Sony Ericsson W880, W610, W660, and W750"
A W750 hasn't been announced yet
Posted by xell
On 2007-08-24 17:01:47, kalleboo wrote:
A W750 hasn't been announced yet
If I remember correctly, W750 was the previous code of the W910. You could find it in the press release of this event, too.
Posted by bodeh6
Any rumors on when the next announcement might be? Do we have to wait till November or will we see an announcement in September since the Aug 14 announcement was just one phone.
Posted by bart
the T650i will be availeble in Black and silver in belgium for my store exclusivly.
we are also getting the S500i in white (yes its the S500i)
and the Z310i in blue.
these should be exclusive for us, if any of you should want one, let me know.
Posted by domipost
may I ask what your store is?
Posted by bart
lets not make it to easy for SE to find me, shall we.
Posted by domipost
ok.
sorry i didn't think about that
Posted by Aware
If SE are sending you exclusive black and silver T650s, and yours IS the only store to get them, I'd think they'll already have a rather good idea who/where you are.....
Posted by albero23
anyway you could post some photos of your exclusives phones
Posted by xironghostx
On 2007-08-25 20:33:24, albero23 wrote:
anyway you could post some photos of your exclusives phones
dont think he has them yet
Posted by Merkie2
I don't think only Belgium will get an exclusive T650i edition. It may be a limited edition, but if there's a special edition then other countries will get it for sure.
Posted by bart
we have what i think other exclusive colors awell.
Z310i in blue, S500i in white, and we'll be getting the W610i in another color aswell (but can't afford to tell the color yet).
Posted by PeterKay
S500i in white, ummmm sounds good! How much GBP?
Posted by WhiteEye
The third official color of W580 is Contrasted Copper.
Posted by Prom1
On 2007-08-20 11:58:58, goldenface wrote:
DVB-H is also a first for SE Europe and America. Lets hope there is actually some DVB-H content to watch by the time this appears.
Well DVB-H has been around the USA in testing for almost 3 yrs now. Remember that Modeo MS Smartphone just 1yr back? It was a the better looking HTC version of Virgin mobile's Lobster DVB-H smartphone. Bah of course you don't remember, it was a trial in NewYork City only.
Here is some information I posted on a sites. Lost of info and my usual LONG post, sorry but helpful. It may even shed some light on this mysterious SE K950? phone?
I'm going to make a new thread based on the following information - just in case others like myself search for N77.
Here is a GREAT list of country's & providers around the world that is testing DVB-H & T networks ... either fully launched or in Trial.
http://www.dvb-h.org/services.htm
Trial Service
(O = completed or results available)
* ALBANIA
- DigitALB = LAUNCHED
AUSTRALIA
- Sydney = O (Trial completed, Pretty much official)
AUSTRIA = Nationwide
FINLAND = Mobiili-TV
FRANCE = Nationwide 2007
GERMANY = Nationwide Q1/Q2/ 2008
INDIA = Doordarshan (Delhi)
ITALY
3 Italia = LAUNCHED
TIM TV = LAUNCHED
Vodafone = LAUNCHED
Turin = O
RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Sverdlovsk Oblast = April '07
What I'm stoked about is a service company that provides Satellite TV began a trial with this, right here in Canada in my city Very Happy
.
Look TV
LOCATION
Milton, Greater Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
TRANSMITTERS
Two 200 Watt UBS-TX200 Transmitters
BROADCAST BAND AND FREQUENCY
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
***** OF NOTE *****
Of important information ....
AUSTRALIA offers the GREATEST Details of how this was implemented.
Broadcast Australia - Movemedia Trial
This trial involved a combination of technical and commercial testing.
The commercial trial involving 375 users found that;
- 80% of users were pleased with the service - a "significant majority" expressed an interest in subscribing to a similar commercial service;
- increased total TV viewing on weekdays;
- the average viewing session was 25 minutes, with 1-2 viewing sessions per day;
- variations from traditional peak viewing times, with peaks at morning, lunch and evenings, as well as Sunday afternoons;
- the service was most popular with non-PayTV subscribers and with commuters;
- sports programming was particularly popular at lunchtime and on Saturday evenings;
- overall the most popular content was general entertainment, news and documentaries.
LOCATION
Sydney, Australia
PARTICIPATING COMPANIES
Broadcast Australia, The Bridge Networks (a subsidiary of Broadcast Australia), Telstra, Foxtel, Turner Broadcasting Systems, SKY Channel, ABC, SBS, Nine Network Australia, RFS, and Harris
CONTACT
Martin Farrimond
e-mail : martin.farrimond@broadcastaustralia.com.au
phone : +61 434 070 361
DURATION
19 July 2005 to 31 January 2007
AIMS & OBJECTIVES
To prove the technical and commercial feasibility of mobile TV based on DVB-H.
BUSINESS MODEL(S) INVESTIGATED
-
USERS
375
SERVICE CONTENT
10 Foxtel channels (Channel V, E!, Fox Football, Fox Sports News, Nickelodeon, Sky News, Sky News Business, The History Channel, The Lifestyle Channel and The Weather Channel), along with ABC, SBS, Channel Nine, CNN, Sky Racing and Boomerang.
A channel from 3 Australia (Hutchison 3G) was also added during phase 2.
TRANSMITTERS
1 transmitter, 80kw ERP, covering all of Greater Sydney
BROADCAST BAND AND FREQUENCY
UHF Channel 29, 536.625 MHz, 7 MHz bandwidth.
DVB-H PARAMETERS
1st phase 8k, no-mpe fec, ½ FEC, QPSK, 1/8 GI, 200 ms bursts with 4 second cycle time. Then various during phase 2 but based on 4k, no MPE-FEC, ½ FEC, QPSK, 1/8 GI. Experiments with 2/3 FEC, and ¾ MPE-FEC on a single service. About 170 ms bursts with 1.7 second cycle time.
AMOUNT OF BANDWIDTH USED FOR DVB-H
All DVB-H - no heirarchical modulation
VIDEO FORMAT
H.263 for first part of trial, then H.264 at about 192kbps, 12.5 fps, QPVA, 32kbps AAC audio
INTERACTIVITY PLATFORM
In phase 2, limited experiments with Nokia MBS 3.0 interactivity.
CONDITIONAL ACCESS / DRM TYPE AND PROVIDER
Nokia OMA based system in phase 1, then no CA during phase 2.
HEADEND EQUIPMENT
Nokia IPDC 2.2 in phase 1, then Nokia MBS 3.0 in phase 2.
RECEIVERS
Nokia 7710 for first part of trial, then Nokia N92
^ Anybody notice the S90 device the 7710 used in phase 1 of Australia's trial? It was EDGE based ... guess the subscription part was already tested and modeled.
^ So as you can see DVB-H has come along GREATLY and continues too grow. Anyone else think that the N92/N77 where a useless endeavor for Nokia, hmmm? Considering changing channels happens in a mere 6-7seconds when stopping a video or changing On-Demand videos on a FAT- Coaxial Cable TV (to home) provider that is nationwide takes just about the same and sometimes up to 10seconds then hmm.
Posted by bart
S500i in white will be 250Euro i expect them to be delivered with the T650i, but like most of you know, the S500i has got keyboard problems
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Posted by domipost
Does it still have that problems?
The newer phone not anymore, or am i wrong?
Posted by bart
saw a phone made after w30 come back with borken keys.
since i've only sold green ones i have no idea of their are still problems with the white or yellow ones.
fact is that the W580 has got the same problem
Posted by xumdeo
it's reported by MR recently, comparing durability issues between SE and Nokia (N76)
Posted by ares
New info on the rumored SE PSP subject
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/[....]yStation+Phone/news.asp?c=3996
Posted by goldenface
The last paragraph about what to expect in the next 1-2 years I found interesting.
Posted by JuanPablo
On 2007-08-26 13:29:52, domipost wrote:
Does it still have that problems?
The newer phone not anymore, or am i wrong?
Only 10% of the first shipment of S500/W580 have keypad problems.
I'd recommend you to buy it in September/October
Posted by beca
K900?
via JUSTAMP
Posted by Alexandra
It's probably the work of SE Cz
If not, it might be real.
Posted by goldenface
Looks like a photoshoped P1i frame.
Posted by >500
photo taken with k750... photo of a screen?
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Posted by PeterKay
ummm, nice big screen whatever it is!!
Posted by goldenface
Well the only keypadless device that is on the cards now is maybe MOOI, which is billed as the direct competitor to the iPhone.
Remember SE said that any device it produces would have to be a phone first and foremost; they wouldn't do away with the traditional keypad but MOOI might be the exception.
The above device just doesn't fit in. Is there any call for a touchscreen Cyber-shot?
Posted by happykhan
As a loyal SE customer, i'm just really getting disappointed.
While we are here discussing the foolish matters of t650's available colors,light effects of k850, motion sensor of w580,.... AND SE still proud of their k750/k800 super sales and totally behind the 5mpx campaign, Nokia has lunched REAL novelties: GPS phones, REAL gaming phones, REAL music phones with 3.5mm jack......
PLZ
be frank to yourself.
SE is really lagging behind nokia, a real forerunner.
just see: after 400 pages of speculations, they finally came with their top notch K850 which no doubt totally disappointed half the loyal consumers.
I really don't know ,but after each glory there will always be a decline, just as happened recently with Motorola.
it's a real shame my K800 has the same video rec quality as w200!!!!!
and after all they have come out with QVGA 30fps, a great glory!!!
I'm really disappointed......
Posted by rachizzle
i agree about the video quality thing..
sort it out se!
Posted by kaiba
happykhan, You're absolutely right, the W800,K750,W900i was a real revolution,
after these, every thing is average.
Posted by rss_ndrsn
The ovi-thing from Nokia is really intriguing. I hope SE will come up with something like that in the future.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2007-08-30 19:17 ]
Posted by Tehy03
"K900" looks really nice! I hope it's not a fake
Posted by kenx3000
@happykhan
Why would you think the 5 Mpx are behind? Don't you think it's still too early even for now for a 5 Mpx? Talk about GPS phones, the N95 doesn't even support 3rd party applications, but the P1i and the P990i are gaining their advantage to take on the GPS market. Why would you also think Nokia ALSO brought out the GPS accessories AFTER SE? That's because they now see where's their mistake. Price and options that people could make are by far more important. SE doesn't want to shove GPS into every handset just to increase the price for no reason. It's actually a smart move to make such accessories.
Real gaming phones? What happened to N-Gage? Isn't because what happened that now Nokia has to integrate it into the new handsets? SE does want to make gaming phones, but to split such brands on like Playstation Phone onto the market right now is a huge risk. Don't tell me that we haven't seen any gaming phones from SE(W550i, W600i), and P1i and the new smartphones already has the graphics that could be in between PS1 and PS2(almost PSP). If you don't believe me, try it out yourself.
For music phones, all the higher end music phones from SE already comes with a head phone that has the 3.5mm. If you're saying that all music phones from Nokia comes with a 3.5mm, then where is it on my 5300? I don't see it anywhere.
The word lagging behind in technology is something that shouldn't be used. Its a marketing style that each company has to study and release at the right time(obviously someone didn't learn economics). Coming out first doesn't mean it's better or way in front. They might just make a mistake by just doing so. We all have seen such mistakes(S700i for example, coming with a CCD first actually nearly killed Cybershot market).
Back to the post, about K850i, I think SE released it not on purpose, but because the feedback was more warm welcome than negative. I think we might see some K850i revised edition(may be thinner?). Beca's picture does interest me, any more info on that?
Posted by actthafool
Heres the back of the "k900" from justamp. Looks highly photoshopped to me.
Posted by RoKeC
On 2007-08-31 07:44:27, kenx3000 wrote:
@happykhan
Why would you think the 5 Mpx are behind? Don't you think it's still too early even for now for a 5 Mpx? Talk about GPS phones, the N95 doesn't even support 3rd party applications, but the P1i and the P990i are gaining their advantage to take on the GPS market. Why would you also think Nokia ALSO brought out the GPS accessories AFTER SE? That's because they now see where's their mistake. Price and options that people could make are by far more important. SE doesn't want to shove GPS into every handset just to increase the price for no reason. It's actually a smart move to make such accessories.
Real gaming phones? What happened to N-Gage? Isn't because what happened that now Nokia has to integrate it into the new handsets? SE does want to make gaming phones, but to split such brands on like Playstation Phone onto the market right now is a huge risk. Don't tell me that we haven't seen any gaming phones from SE(W550i, W600i), and P1i and the new smartphones already has the graphics that could be in between PS1 and PS2(almost PSP). If you don't believe me, try it out yourself.
For music phones, all the higher end music phones from SE already comes with a head phone that has the 3.5mm. If you're saying that all music phones from Nokia comes with a 3.5mm, then where is it on my 5300? I don't see it anywhere.
The word lagging behind in technology is something that shouldn't be used. Its a marketing style that each company has to study and release at the right time(obviously someone didn't learn economics). Coming out first doesn't mean it's better or way in front. They might just make a mistake by just doing so. We all have seen such mistakes(S700i for example, coming with a CCD first actually nearly killed Cybershot market).
Back to the post, about K850i, I think SE released it not on purpose, but because the feedback was more warm welcome than negative. I think we might see some K850i revised edition(may be thinner?). Beca's picture does interest me, any more info on that?
i agree with you
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Posted by Car Lazar
There is always good and bad things about SE, I don`t want any other phone but I don`t see ANY INOVATIONS AND REVOLUTION in theri fons for a long time ... I will still buy SE phones but i want to see something new from them ...
Posted by mustafabay
On 2007-08-30 20:16:27, rss_ndrsn wrote:
The ovi-thing from Nokia is really intriguing. I hope SE will come up with something like that in the future.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2007-08-30 19:17 ]
I know I might be a very small minority, but I would like to see SE collaborate with nokia on things like this. Having more than one device manufacturer behind it would give t leverage against the networks who still want to sell the same stuff through their portals.
Posted by xumdeo
that design should not be japan bound
(if it's legit at all)
but there will be a cybershot phone for the japanese market ready by november (2 phones from SE under 905i series)
Posted by goldenface
@xumdeo
So does Japan not have a Cyber-shot yet?
Posted by strizlow800
On 2007-08-31 07:44:27, kenx3000 wrote:
@happykhan
Why would you think the 5 Mpx are behind? Don't you think it's still too early even for now for a 5 Mpx? Talk about GPS phones, the N95 doesn't even support 3rd party applications, but the P1i and the P990i are gaining their advantage to take on the GPS market. Why would you also think Nokia ALSO brought out the GPS accessories AFTER SE? That's because they now see where's their mistake. Price and options that people could make are by far more important. SE doesn't want to shove GPS into every handset just to increase the price for no reason. It's actually a smart move to make such accessories.
Real gaming phones? What happened to N-Gage? Isn't because what happened that now Nokia has to integrate it into the new handsets? SE does want to make gaming phones, but to split such brands on like Playstation Phone onto the market right now is a huge risk. Don't tell me that we haven't seen any gaming phones from SE(W550i, W600i), and P1i and the new smartphones already has the graphics that could be in between PS1 and PS2(almost PSP). If you don't believe me, try it out yourself.
For music phones, all the higher end music phones from SE already comes with a head phone that has the 3.5mm. If you're saying that all music phones from Nokia comes with a 3.5mm, then where is it on my 5300? I don't see it anywhere.
The word lagging behind in technology is something that shouldn't be used. Its a marketing style that each company has to study and release at the right time(obviously someone didn't learn economics). Coming out first doesn't mean it's better or way in front. They might just make a mistake by just doing so. We all have seen such mistakes(S700i for example, coming with a CCD first actually nearly killed Cybershot market).
Back to the post, about K850i, I think SE released it not on purpose, but because the feedback was more warm welcome than negative. I think we might see some K850i revised edition(may be thinner?). Beca's picture does interest me, any more info on that?
I AGREE WITH THIS.
Posted by >500
@goldenface
the s904 etc etc 90x, have been
Japans camera phones, sort of like our K series (cybershot) being our cam phone range......... though they have not been branded cybershot. i think xumdeo is saying there is a cybershot phone coming in a couple months 
Posted by happykhan
@kenx3000
You know, big name brings breat responsibility.
I , Myself, don't except very much from samsung or motorola or lg (although they are big names) BUT i do except a lot from Sony, Ericsson, Nokia.
Marketing is indeed a science and very very complicated.
I just try to keep my fingers crossed.
The coming days will tell the winner....
Posted by domipost
Don't look the same. I think the front might be real, but the back is definately fake
Posted by kenx3000
@happykhan
It's understandable that the users have high expectations of SE products, but we have to change our view now. Right now is not the time for new technologies to be integrated. That is old school. That is when a camera is only VGA or QCIF resolution. Back then we waited for a 1, 2, 3 Mpx camera phones. Now that we have all these choices, but yet we're never satisfied with them.What drives the market isn't new technologies, but its the users themselves. It's not what they want, but what suites them. Think of the new functions that meets up to your expectations(GPS, camera, symbian-apps, etc.) what's the percentage that you think of ALL the users in the world would understand these, or even know about them? I would say less than half, or even quarter of all the users.
P.S. There's no winner in technologies
only quitters
Posted by Xajel
On 2007-08-31 08:06:52, actthafool wrote:
Heres the back of the "k900" from justamp. Looks highly photoshopped to me.
totally fake, the back is based on my H1i concept ( see here ), look at the shades and to the 7.2 number concept too...
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Posted by josefcool25
yes that's right this was taken from the h1i concept
Posted by crossmatched
On 2007-08-31 18:03:45, kenx3000 wrote:
@happykhan
It's understandable that the users have high expectations of SE products, but we have to change our view now. Right now is not the time for new technologies to be integrated. That is old school. That is when a camera is only VGA or QCIF resolution. Back then we waited for a 1, 2, 3 Mpx camera phones. Now that we have all these choices, but yet we're never satisfied with them.What drives the market isn't new technologies, but its the users themselves. It's not what they want, but what suites them. Think of the new functions that meets up to your expectations(GPS, camera, symbian-apps, etc.) what's the percentage that you think of ALL the users in the world would understand these, or even know about them? I would say less than half, or even quarter of all the users.
P.S. There's no winner in technologies
only quitters
i agree. right now is not the time for integration of new technologies. but rather, refinement of technologies to suit user's demands and needs.