Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-06-01 15:34:16, Ricky D wrote:
On 2007-06-01 15:13:58, thecoolsha wrote:
14 days... 14 days..
I hope you're right.
Correct me if I'm wrong but were you one of the folk who were also saying 28th May?
Corrected. I wasn't. I said that date sounded about right, but never confirmed or said anything was 100 % curtain. I've only said there would be an announcement in June.
Posted by kyle_274
what SE are doing is waiting 4 nokia nd all others two release there high end phones then when the ppl get sick of those phones SE will release there's nd the people wud be dam what gud phones...its quite smart actualy
Posted by scouser_75
Thanks M One. I think with so much info I just got a little confused.
So, in short:
Excluding the P990i factor - in the new range of phones the P1i will be the flagship model? And M00I will most probably be next?
I think if SE want to compete with the iphone M00I will have to be something incredibly special. I know I most defo will be getting an iphone as soon as it's released over here in the UK!
Untilll then I think Im gonna go and check out what the max memory space for P1i is.................................................
Posted by Ricky D
@ thecoolsha
Apologies. My mistake.
Posted by S4k1s
On 2007-06-01 15:57:50, kyle_274 wrote:
what SE are doing is waiting 4 nokia nd all others two release there high end phones then when the ppl get sick of those phones SE will release there's nd the people wud be dam what gud phones...its quite smart actualy
No that is plain stupidity. Nokia can release 30 phones 2 days later...
So I don't think this is the case.
If u ask me,
is milking the cow.
Btw, it seems
concentrated on thin phones these 2 first quarters, I'w said it before and saying it again, not ony megapixels are progress, the thin phones are nice in the pocket and hand.
Lets be honest, even though I like the k750 more, it's a brick compared to the k550.
Now to go a bit on- topic
...
I'm looking forward to next announcement.
Posted by icarus78
On 2007-06-01 15:46:58, m-one wrote:
No, it will look similar to W950i. But not with that flat keypad design.
I've already written down the specs of MOOI a few pages back - guess it
was on page 395 or 396.
does that mean no wifi?
Posted by remirez
Could it be that MOOI is in fact M1i
a P1i with walkman, M standing for Music instead of Messaging and the M serie as we know it merging with the P serie.
MOOI could in fact be M001 or M1.
Posted by m-one
It should have wifi
It's same speced as P1.
We all thougt Elena would be named P700i. Then it turned out that it's name was P1i.
@remirez
Your consideration seems very plausible. But it also can be the W1i.
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Posted by icarus78
On 2007-06-01 16:48:28, m-one wrote:
It should have wifi
It's same speced as P1.
will definitely wait for this fone to be launch then, waiting for a long time to upgrade my k750......
Posted by scouser_75
... but better as it has walkman facility?
Posted by m-one
Nearly same speced as P1! According to my source it has built-in 8 GB memory.
But I mentioned that on page 396.
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Posted by >500
how reliable is your source though m-one
Posted by remirez
On 2007-06-01 16:48:28, m-one wrote:
@remirez
Your consideration seems very plausible. But it also can be the W1i.
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It would make sense to call it W1 but seeing how one of the codename was MOOI is was suggesting that it might be M1 which was transformed to M001 and then to MOOI
M1 -> M001 -> MOOI
Posted by m-one
M1 just like my nick *lol*
@>500
It seems very reliable until now. This source even knew that elena would be named P1 as instead assumed P700i.
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Posted by beca
Hope you are right
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Posted by JC08
Please tell me why would se change the w to m? i mean ppl r gonna get confused?
Posted by remirez
Some swedish website is stating that SE will release new phones on the 14th of June, with a focus on music and photography technology.
And they mention a 5 Mpz phone.
via Just another mobile phone blog http://justamp.blogspot.com/index.html
Now we need to figure out if the source is this very forum in which case, the article wouldn't be much of a confirmation but a rehash of all the posts flying in this thread (not impossible). Or do they have another source, the article being published by a Swedish website, they might very well know things we don't.
Let's hope it's the latter.
Posted by Script
On 2007-06-01 18:19:53, remirez wrote:
via Just another mobile phone blog http://justamp.blogspot.com/index.html
"unique applikations”
Interesting
Posted by m-one
Looks like there'll be simultaneous product announcements @
London - Paris - Berlin
What a really fat showdown...if it's right
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Posted by icaka
btw,if MOOI(or Maria,if it is the same) is engineered on the P1i's basis, is it possible that it will have DSP?In other words,isn't DSP something more complicated,which can't be just thrown in and needs a totally new internal design?
Posted by my ninja
these are lies until 6/16/07 ... dont get your hopes up again, we all remember the may 29th announcement dont we!?
eh, it could happen!
Posted by JC08
What happend 2 shinobu?
Posted by m-one
@icaka
Do you mean DSP in terms of a Digital Sound Processor?
I really don't know, if it's gonna have a new DSP, Sorry.
Posted by icaka
On 2007-06-01 21:10:17, m-one wrote:
@icaka
Do you mean DSP in terms of a Digital Sound Processor?
I really don't know, if it's gonna have a new DSP, Sorry.
Yeah,thats what I mean.But my question was more theoretically-aimed.I'm in electronics for a long time,but don't know if what they call a "DSP" in a mobile phone, is a real DSP(which is very complicated in most cases) or just a marketing thing,based only on better DAC and opamp.
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Posted by m-one
Yeah...something like a Yamaha DSP-Z9 based processor with 9.1 channel sound for a mobilephone*outch*
What a pity that something like this will never come out.
Posted by icaka
hmm not that type of DSP.I'm talking about DSP CHIP or in particular - DAP(Digital Audio Processor),in which more than 2 channels are not necessarily implemented,but it has hardware effects,in some cases internal DAC/opamp and etc.For example,Texas Instruments' TAS/TLV series(although the TLVs are not exactly DAPs) or even TMS320C/OMAP series/Analog's Blackfin/SHARC processors.The latter give the best audio performance and I was talking about that kind of solutions.
Posted by Delta 9
On a completely different note: with the return of the T series (T650, T250), I wonder if they will revive the R series?
Posted by Mizzle
well, i might as well just spoil it all now. this announcement will be of great importance and will show innovation from
which some have been complaining about. regarding the 'unique apps' i'm not quite sure which they are talking about. they've been testing many apps - pdf-viewer, karaoke-app, tv-app, maps etc.
new and improved "version", if i can call it that, of cybershot with more and advanced features. better video.
walkman will also be enhanced.
feel free to ask any questions, but don't expect aanswer.
oh, and the date changes regarding to the country, i think.
Posted by cristiano
@thecoolsha
sofia will have the same look as the spy picture ?? or it's going to be diffrent?
how many mobiles are we expecting?
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-06-02 00:53:12, cristiano wrote:
@thecoolsha
sofia will have the same look as the spy picture ?? or it's going to be diffrent?
how many mobiles are we expecting?
last reply then.
the one i have seen is much like the spypics yes. and it's really optimized for imaging imo.
i don't know about you, but i'm expecting quite a few
Posted by m-one
@thecoolsha
One of the new applications will be the new walkman version 3.0. It will support the arrangement of your tracks by bpm (beats per minute). I've heard something about a feature that makes it possible to listen to your music while you're phoning.
But don't ask me about the sense of the latter function
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Posted by domipost
I think sofia, Shinobu and one other phone.
This message was posted from a W810i
Posted by bodeh6
Can you say whether Sofia will have Walkman 3.0 like they said over in the Mobile-Review of the Nokia N95?
Posted by Bambino
I hope there is no 208mhz nexperia arm9 processor again.
Posted by razec
On 2007-06-02 05:24:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
I hope there is no 208mhz nexperia arm9 processor again.
208Mhz nexperia is optimized only for business use i think, Ti-OMAP 2420 is faster, yet it powers the 5Mp camera better than that junk CPU does
so if sofia utilizes UIQ and has 5mp camera, the 208Mhz won't be adequate and will drag the image processing speed to a mere 20 seconds to capture the subject if that's the case!!! 
but sees this issue already and i guess they will use that TI-omap 2420 CPU to their 5Mp media phone
Posted by Bambino
I am so agree mate
Posted by soane28
Or SE wont include UIQ in Sofia for that very reason.
Posted by razec
no UIQ 3.1 in sofia?
i don't think so
, the evidence is clear afaik, even shaliron mentioned it in this topic. the wider QVGA screen tells us it already,and the number of softkeys are evenly matched with the number of softkeys in motorola rizr Z8 i guess.
one hint, if some source could confirm sofia's video framerate to reach 30Fps at QVGA, then i'm very sure it'll be utilizing the TI-omap 2420 CPU
this is because if we construct some history, some topics have already mentioned the weakness of the nexperia CPU to record 30 FPS videos in QVGA, so the only CPU afaik to enable 30fps recording was the CPU evidently compatible with UIQ 3.1; the 2420!!!
>>> but if it's confirmed to be a non-uiq phone(hope it's not true
), but retains the 30FPS @ QVGA, then i suspect that the processor powering the device was the NVIDIA GoForce 5500(W900 video chip is v4800, and this GPU allows only 3.0mp max resolution so obviously the sofia won't use it in it's 5mp sensor ) one just like in W900i
Posted by soane28
There was a rumour mentioned several times that Sofia is having a 5500 Geforce graphics chip. The only problem is that nothing is confirmed so anything is possible! Oh well, only a few weeks away all shall be revealed (fingers crossed)
Posted by masada71
all these are just speculations!!we dont know even how it would look like and we re already talking about specs...be patient 2 weeks and we will see...
Posted by icaka
razec I suppose you're right or at least - very near to the truth.We know SE are investing on stability/lower power consumption,so I'll add some other appropriate ones,which are from the same OMAP family(or next
),just a little bit better for the case.I'm talking about the OMAP 2430 and(I'll be happy if that's the case ) the OMAP 3430(though doubtfully we'll see it in a phone before 2008,but its a nice overkill )
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Posted by kalleboo
God I hope it's not UIQ, I have yet to see a Symbian phone that impresses me in speed & usability, where as the
OSE phones are really zippy and a dream to work with.
edit: also everything I've heard points toward an OSE phone: stuff like access netfront 3.4 etc. my prediction is that it'll be a Z750 in candybar form with a 5 MP cam, nothing more nothing less. and it'll hit the stores at the same time as Z750 (since they're essentially the same software/hardware platform, and hence have the same testing/debugging cycle)
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Posted by Sutitan
So. being that sofia is sorta confirmed on june 14, when do u think it will be out by. I need a new phone by july 15. Should i hope for a release like the SE W880i?
Im so torn. I really want Sofia...now. there arent any apealing phones on the market now. but I need a new phone by the 15th of july!!
Posted by jiteshraj
It will NOT be uiq. Playdead over at m-r confirmed. The 3 softkeys probably just means that se have developed their non-smartphone os to be similar to uiq. Just like how s40v3 is similar to s60. Anyway, sofia will hav a 250mhz processor and a 3d chip onboard. Cheers
Posted by prototype_bo
this could be just true. or if you think about it again, UIQ3.1 non TC would fit the gap perfectly.
instead of staying with the old interface and software, which limits applications and additions. switch to the new smart OS...
btw, i think 14 th of june ( as some indicated ) would prove to be a very interesting date. complete with 4 to 5 handsets. quality innovative
handsets ......
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2007-06-02 07:35:37, razec wrote:
no UIQ 3.1 in sofia?
i don't think so
, the evidence is clear afaik, even shaliron mentioned it in this topic. the wider QVGA screen tells us it already,and the number of softkeys are evenly matched with the number of softkeys in motorola rizr Z8 i guess.
one hint, if some source could confirm sofia's video framerate to reach 30Fps at QVGA, then i'm very sure it'll be utilizing the TI-omap 2420 CPU
this is because if we construct some history, some topics have already mentioned the weakness of the nexperia CPU to record 30 FPS videos in QVGA, so the only CPU afaik to enable 30fps recording was the CPU evidently compatible with UIQ 3.1; the 2420!!!
>>> but if it's confirmed to be a non-uiq phone(hope it's not true
), but retains the 30FPS @ QVGA, then i suspect that the processor powering the device was the NVIDIA GoForce 5500(W900 video chip is v4800, and this GPU allows only 3.0mp max resolution so obviously the sofia won't use it in it's 5mp sensor ) one just like in W900i
I already said a few posts back Sofia will not exceed 15fps QVGA. Why do you all keep fantasising of VGA? or 30fps QVGA?
And it wont be UIQ either.
On 2007-06-02 15:32:51, Sutitan wrote:
So. being that sofia is sorta confirmed on june 14, when do u think it will be out by. I need a new phone by july 15. Should i hope for a release like the SE W880i?
Im so torn. I really want Sofia...now. there arent any apealing phones on the market now. but I need a new phone by the 15th of july!!
End of September, early October. I cant remember but week 40 or 41 is the week Sofia ships.
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Posted by alrodlop35
On 2007-06-02 15:46:49, jiteshraj wrote:
Anyway, sofia will hav a 250mhz processor and a 3d chip onboard. Cheers
Are you absolutely sure??? 250 mHz isn't really much of an improvement on the K800's 210 mHz and the K800's already very slow opening 3.2 MP pictures. Just imagine a 5 MP one'll take ages to load!
Posted by jiteshraj
I'm sure it's roughly 250mhz. The 3d chip should make all the difference if implemented correctly.
Posted by alrodlop35
Didn't really think the 3D chip would make a difference, but that at least comforts me. Plus the toll on battery life will be small (I hope).
Posted by razec
but it could be better if sofia uses Nvidia goforce 5500 chip, no more need for a super high speed CPU if this incredible GPU assist a 210Mhz. just in case with the W900 which has only 100Mhz
anyway i'm not fantasizing! i'm just constructing some analysis!