Posted by shaliron
@PeterKay
Yeah, SE should do background checks on all their employees.
@boba
The K650 seems to be the K610 successor:
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Posted by PeterKay
Sack all staff with Nokia phones, come on
we shouldn't be telling you this. This should be rule No.1 
Hope we get some more pics!
staff we love you really 
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I wouldn't put these two in the same bracket. The K610i was a slim business class 3G phone. Good cam specs weren't a priority. Whereas the K650 is imaging based and 2.5G. Though I do think there will be a K610i replacement.
Where did the K620i rumours come from?
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Posted by BobaFett
i saw somewhere a pic of a blue fone, imo the successor of k610, but i cannot find it...
Posted by shaliron
@goldenface
I never found the exact place from where they began, which leads me to believe that the K620 was not a real phone. Well at least not the one in which that they've described, which was almost an exact replica of the K800 with a tad more memory.
The K620 may exist, but maybe just not with those specs (which are probably made up IMO).
If the Li is not going to be called the K650, what would it be called? Not K550, because that would confuse the Na which is the
version, and that would have to be called the W650, making the Li the K650. Very confusing 
But a new thought. Maybe the Li is the K770, and the Na is the W770 that we've been hearing about. Now that I think of it, it actually works.
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I agree. Its's more plausible as
don't have any K / V6XX's that aren't 3G.
K600i, V600i, K610, V630i... So that blue K620i pic was just a random photoshop it would seem.
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Posted by shaliron
@boba
Yeah, that blue K620 was just a photoshop of the K610. Nothing much at all.
EDIT: And that would make the generic version of the Ai (the phone known originally as the K770) the K650? Seems much more logical, and that would make the generic Ai, the successor of the K610. All solved.
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Posted by Mizzle
I was fooling around with the pics in photoshop and then i tried to measure the Ai's screen.. I marked it using a tool and copied it. U know what the dimensions were? 242 x 179 pixels. If u size it up, it's like QVGA - 320 x 237 pixels!
i might have measured a few pixels off, but i think u can see what i mean
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Posted by shaliron
@thecoolsha
Very right indeed. When I did it earlier, I must have been doing something wrong.
Well, it did look like a QVGA anyway. The icons down the bottom look very tiny, and a 176x220 screen would never have rendered them well.
Looks like my original source was right.
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Yes, i think so too...
Hmm check this out. Is this the off/on-button on Ai? Its very small, dont you think?
Posted by shaliron
@thecoolsha
No, that's just an engraving. I think the C button is meant to act as the On/Off button.
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Well that is not the button. its only an idication that the on/off button is the C button. I believe holdin the C button for more than 3 or 4 secs will switch on/off the phone.
or maybe am wrong. but hell i wish that is not a button. that is sooo small!!
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Posted by Mizzle
yea, thats what i thought, too...
it doesn't look like a button either..
Hmm.. I've got a few connections with SE (caus of my job - not gonna say what, that would propably get me into trouble), maybe i can get something out of them..
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Thats what we like to hear. Cool!
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Posted by Mizzle
Just talked with one of them and he says, that most of the things posted in the first post is true. So thats a good thing
Posted by shaliron
@thecoolsha
Good to hear. We're getting close to the target of 40 phones I reckon.
Do your friends want to share any extra info?
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Well, he could confirm that they were planning something with the Handycam-brand and Bravia-brand in Europe.
Also the part of UIQ phones - and that some of them will be without touchscreens.
Then he was talking about some new walkman-player, but i dont think its going to be launched in Q1 or Q2 2007.. More likely to come at the end of 2007.
He could also say that Sofia is not the only 5 megapixel phone they are planning.. It should be something like the relationship between k790 and k800 - both 3,2 megapixels, but some small differences.
Posted by dr_thug
@coolsha,What did he have to say about the new designs from SE??Would we see more of such designs in all the phones to be released in 2007??
any info on the 'gaming' phone??
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He actually said that they are really cool and very stylish - the ones posted doesn't give the proper feeling of quality, as the "real deal" does, he said. Besides, he mentioned the emotional-design phones, and said, that they have REALLY great designs - soft, round edges, mirror effects and such.. I thought it sounded like Z310 and Z610, but they are different.
Not really any hot news on the gaming phone, however, he said, that in the future, they will use more hardware for graphics (just like p990 and w900) and that they are thinking of making one. They didnt wanna make the same mistake nokia made with n-gage (you know, having to buy fysical games and such) so they have to think of a way to transfer games wireless to the users.
Posted by xumdeo
the emotional design is going to look good because they're based on..... and *not* designed by.....
(fill in the blanks)
that I'm confident
better looking than Nokia and Samsung's feminine lines out today
they should be as wow-ing as you first saw LG's Chocolate and SHINE
as cheesy as the team claimed, it's supposed to "ignite your senses"
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news just came out today that they have a 2MP camera phone in works. 3" screen, digital TV, EVDO RevA; smaller than W44S, with a much improved hinge. the biggest thing is that the phone can record digital broadcast at VGA resolution. this might be a W5x series for AU KDDI's Spring 07 line up
so I cannot tell you much about the DMB devices for europe yet, it's still a bit early. need to spend time on the modules and software, the design can come out pretty fast, just pick one from the pool
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Posted by wap123
This sucks
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Posted by dr_thug
[quote]
On 2006-12-14 16:16:36, xumdeo wrote:
the emotional design is going to look good because they're based on..[Chris Bangle's designs]... and *not* designed by..
...
(fill in the blanks)
am i right???
Seriously,the keys look very small and least user friendly...and the select buttons,c,and back buttons design don't help either.
and the back looks plain...whats the 2 square holes near the walkman logo in the back??
Posted by cristiano
xumdeo
thank u very much but do u know anything about europ mobiles??
will we have mobile just like W44 for europ?
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Posted by goldenface
@cristiano Yes. In February.
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Posted by Mr. SE
That`s soon! Earlier then I expected!
Posted by jack00
chris bangle is not the answer to every design concerning question
and btw, the designs not look like anything bangle has ever designed
Posted by jepherberich
This looks like a mash-up of the W810 soft keys + P910 keypad on a K600 shell. It's a Photoshop most definitely, but I reckon the actual device will look 90% like this. It's just that mashing up elements from real handsets make them more
-like. We all had a feeling was going this direction since the K800 design greeted the world
some people just have too much time in their hands.
Posted by wap123
Damn these phones are coming out sooner than expected but wait is which one of those series was cancelled again? The w42s?
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Posted by goldenface
3GSM Barcelona to be more precise.
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Posted by shaliron
@axilom
I'm afraid these spy pics are very real
But hey, people always tend to hate SE spy shots, including me, and end up liking or loving the phone's design in the end. I think the Ai is one of those phones which you really need to hold to admire.
Look at a few phone which looked horrible, but turned out great:
Posted by driftmania
only the Z610 and W900 came out good, the W300 is as chubby as ever.
Posted by n3o
hmmmm how come there are not any SE lawyers on the run because of the pics...is this a hint that official presentation is not far away...
Posted by goldenface
@N3o
It would be too late now anyway, its all over the web. The hype surrounding these handsets is mega at the moment and there is much anticipation.
Still no sign of Sofia pics though.
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Counting days now for official announcement
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What phone is this?
Posted by BobaFett
imo a chinese copy as usually
Posted by PeterKay
Not seen that before but it looks like its for the chinese market!
Posted by goldenface
Wow!
No, its the new 2.0mp cyber-shot.
"Li
Could be named K770? Next low end Cybershot. 2 megapixel camera with auto-focus, two LEDs for flash. Same specs as K800 with different camera, but may only have a 176x220 screen. Competitor to the 6233. Does not have 3G. "
Again, this looks a lot better than the one in the spy-pics.
There will be a
version of this handset.
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Posted by BobaFett
take a closer look at the date, its 1 year old
Posted by bart
this one i like
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No, it's just 10 days ago.
Look at this properties. It's taken by W800c.
Posted by Aware
Does look quite nice in white........
Not sure if I like it better than the black one Chrstphr had before, tho:
Hmmmm......
Posted by PeterKay
Nice looking back, more pics - keep em coming
Posted by BobaFett
@rifqi i ment the date on the fone itself.... 06-12-05 or are the first digits shown the year?
Posted by Aware
Also interesting; if you look at the white phone's display, apart from the 2005 date(spotted Boba), the f/w also has the W810-style 'G' GPRS indicator(not the usual blue triangle)........hmmmm, maybe EDGE in this one??
Posted by BobaFett
and keypad looks really crap imo almost the same as in n91, very uncomforteable imo
Posted by goldenface
@Aware
Well there seems to be a trend for
to release two versions of handsets.
W850i/W830, K800i/K790i etc so this is no doubt for EDGE in the Asian market.
K770i/K760c anyone?
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Posted by Aware
Plausible, although the white model has a euro keypad.......probably an american version in the pipeline, too....
Posted by cristiano
goldenface
and maybe not
just like ًW850 black and white
Posted by mustafabay
Have we seen a picture of a K550 yet or is that not leaked yet. And if anyone wants to know how I know of this model, well lets say laffen is telling us as usual.