Posted by JC08
Cant wait 4 shinobu, it gets more and more interesting everyday
Posted by >500
@cristiano
2.4" is a possibility
Posted by kalleboo
On 2007-05-19 05:51:25, shaliron wrote:
And that red light next to the camera doesn't look like a focus lamp; it's too dim. Perhaps it's just an indicator light or maybe part of a series of light effects.
I think it's a video recording indicator light, apparently it's a new law/requirement in Italy or something, kinda like how some countries require a camera sound effect.
Posted by Mizzle
@christiano -
Of course it's possible. Just have a look at what Nokia manages to put into one small phone!
has the exact same technology available as nokia, but Nokia are more forward going with high tech features and such. But sure, it's possible.
Posted by bavlondon2
Coolsha but what examples can you give of Nokia with phones the size of the k610 but with highy spec?
Yes Nokia cram alot into their phones but Christianos point was valid. A phone the size of the k610 with screen bigger than the k800 seems wierd. Im not discrediting the possibility but I agree that does sound wierd.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-05-19 15:52:51, bavlondon2 wrote:
Coolsha but what examples can you give of Nokia with phones the size of the k610 but with highy spec?
Yes Nokia cram alot into their phones but Christianos point was valid. A phone the size of the k610 with screen bigger than the k800 seems wierd. Im not discrediting the possibility but I agree that does sound wierd.
Several.
Besides, it'll be more the size of T650 than K610. But it's almost the same anyways... Almost anything is possible.
Posted by londonlad123
What is the screen size on this proto? (page 222)
Keep in mind that it has the photo keys of the k810, the keypad of t650 and this pic came with the pics of the now p1i.
Posted by JC08
Hey, i just got this thought couldnt this proto have been used as a test bed 4 different functions, meaning the screen, buttons and the cam?
Posted by bavlondon2
Maybe. I really hope though that there isnt a joystick on Sofa. Im sick of the dust building up on the inside.
Posted by alrodlop35
I think they were just testing the water with that and that specific phone will never come to life. However, some parts of it are coming to life in different phones, such as the keys on the T650. The camera module and mechanical lens cover may come to life in Sofia.
Posted by Coxy
Although I loved
for the lack of green and red call buttons something good could come of it.
The left softkey for calls will no longer be of any use, therefore hopefully we will have more personalisation with these new phones.
Posted by taikira
I'm more and more convinced that this mysterious phone (the black one with T650 keyboard) is a laboratory proto, for future solutions testing.
I'm mean I don't think it's the proto of a specific project, but a stuff for testing only pieces of several other projects.
Posted by JC08
Thats what I said....rather makes sense...
Posted by gauravsali
what is the use of 2mp(with or without autofocus) if there is no flas.....so no photos at night!
Posted by Diffused
On 2007-05-19 19:02:39, taikira wrote:
I'm more and more convinced that this mysterious phone (the black one with T650 keyboard) is a laboratory proto, for future solutions testing.
I'm mean I don't think it's the proto of a specific project, but a stuff for testing only pieces of several other projects.
I certainly hope so. Don't think that phone would sell.
Posted by taikira
@ gauravsali
maybe they plan for MXE-60 successor?...
Posted by gauravsali
what is mxe-60 successor?
Posted by Mizzle
That sofia proto has been used for different things - e.g. the camera module and testing new applications, that could be part of the new phones. but there have been several protos for sofia - some looking more finished than others, even some looking like a child have done it.
Posted by cristiano
@thecoolsha
so some of the specs may not be on sofia ?
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-05-19 21:12:14, cristiano wrote:
@thecoolsha
so some of the specs may not be on sofia ?
what specs are you talking about? sofia will contain almost everything discussed at the forums.
Posted by cristiano
will sofia have wifi?
and it's for sure going to have xeonon flash but is there's a chance for it to have led flash for video recording?
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-05-19 21:16:53, cristiano wrote:
will sofia have wifi?
and it's for sure going to have xeonon flash but is there's a chance for it to have led flash for video recording?
I'd be surprised if it has W-LAN. That would be too much for a non smartphone. Don't know about a LED flash for recording, perhaps.
edit: btw, sofia has had one of the most closed worker teams, so not much info out for any of us. not even the very well connected ones. but we'll see soon.
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Posted by jjjajjj
no it will not have WiFi bec it is a media phone
Posted by kreacher
On 2007-05-19 21:13:25, thecoolsha wrote:
what specs are you talking about? sofia will contain almost everything discussed at the forums.
Well that's good to hear. I'm really hoping they'll ship with the 16M 2.4" screen.
BTW any idea what sort of Image stabilization will Sofia feature?
Posted by kalleboo
On 2007-05-19 21:16:53, cristiano wrote:
will sofia have wifi?
and it's for sure going to have xeonon flash but is there's a chance for it to have led flash for video recording?
I heard early on that they were considering using a white focus LED (instead of the K800's red one) and then let that double as a video light/flashlight, but I don't know if that ended up being the case.
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Posted by kalleboo
Also, Re: phone sized, the main reason the K810 is as big as it is is because of the Xenon flash - it required large capacitors, and sofia will need even bigger ones due to the lower light sensitivity a 5 MP sensor would have, so it's probably not going to be much smaller (if at all) than the K810.
Posted by kokosalaki
well it would be nice if it was slim but I guess the size isn't the most important thing here, after all, n95 is quite big as well
Posted by Angello
I think it will look mor elike this one with orange keys. I made a dowdy photoshop
[ This Message was edited by: beta-tester on 2007-05-19 22:04 ]
Posted by domipost
then you have to make the keys on normal keypad orange to, or at least not grey. this looks a little weird. I think i make a photoshop tomorrow
Posted by Angello
yeah how i said very bad photoshop, i made only that you can see how it will look like
Posted by vegetaleb
Oh no please we decided to stop this gay color(orange),replace it by silver
Posted by ajeetpv
is there any confirmation of date of announcement of sofia on 28th may.
Posted by cristiano
On 2007-05-20 13:12:00, ajeetpv wrote:
is there any confirmation of date of announcement of sofia on 28th may.
nop
Posted by bavlondon2
Sadley 28.05 could just be another make up date like 12Feb or sometime in March.
Ah i remember 12Feb. That was a nice day.
Posted by Angello
why should it be silver. look at this picture this shows shinobu in black with orange keys
Posted by Mizzle
@beta-tester, your photoshop is very much like the real deal.
Posted by c96sthl
@shaliron. How sure are you 28th may? Hope its not due to the mail about hbh d200. Because i do hope its earlier. Se might just give themselve buffer in holding back fcc from revealing before anything arise.
Posted by jack00
that design reminds me on sony's mini disc players
Posted by domipost
here's it with silver buttons
i know it is a bad photoshop, but I am really a noop at photoshop
Posted by JC08
Is the sides gold?
Posted by domipost
good question. i don't know
Posted by bavlondon2
On 2007-05-20 13:46:00, c96sthl wrote:
@shaliron. How sure are you 28th may? Hope its not due to the mail about hbh d200. Because i do hope its earlier. Se might just give themselve buffer in holding back fcc from revealing before anything arise.
lol shall I save you the hassle of dissapointment and bring out the next date for everyone to pin their hopes on......
"I have a feeling something will be announced in the 2nd week of June" (says Bav in an ominous voice) lol
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Posted by laurenke01
Well, crap--regardless of when the next SE announcement is, I'm going to be in Europe on vacation. Maybe I can find an Internet cafe and catch up on the news.
I'm actually more excited for Shinobu than Sofia--although that may change when official specs are released.
Posted by alrodlop35
I'm also more excited about Sinobu than Sofia. Having owned both a WALKMAN and a Cyber-shot phone, I have to say, music's more important to me. I've been doing a lot more music listenin' than picture takin' on my CS phone. Good thing it performs decently on both fronts. I would be a bit worried if Shinobu is finally 2MP. That's just too little. Specially if Sofia comes with W player V 3.0. Then I'd get the best of both worlds...
Posted by laurenke01
My main reason for liking Shinobu more (at this stage) is that I already have a K790--and if I were to get Sofia, it would be rendered almost useless, and I still want to be able to use the thing (I paid good money for it, after all).
Again, once official specs are released...I may have a change of heart.
Posted by c96sthl
On 2007-05-20 16:39:04, bavlondon2 wrote:
On 2007-05-20 13:46:00, c96sthl wrote:
@shaliron. How sure are you 28th may? Hope its not due to the mail about hbh d200. Because i do hope its earlier. Se might just give themselve buffer in holding back fcc from revealing before anything arise.
lol shall I save you the hassle of dissapointment and bring out the next date for everyone to pin their hopes on......
"I have a feeling something will be announced in the 2nd week of June" (says Bav in an ominous voice) lol
[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2007-05-20 15:39 ]
the reason I question him is I hope he is not referring to the may 28 hold back date in FCC for SE HBH-DS200.....tht might not be the absolute date.
I think before you say this is not true...you btter start reading other thread.....unless SE failed to announced by may 28 (may 29 in some europe and asia country)....else tht will be the last day for FCC to on hold the detail info for that bluetooth headset.
You think SE will let FCC do the unofficial announcement for them before SE done their announcement?
If they failed to make any announcement....either they will ask FCC to hold on to the info release or they will just let FCC reveal whatever they planned to reveal.
go read what I attached below.
[ This Message was edited by: c96sthl on 2007-05-21 03:38 ]
Posted by bavlondon2
I saw that. Interesting point. But remember if its being released September/October time then June/July would be an appropriate time.
Apple announced the iphone how many months ago and its only been FCC approved recently.
Posted by remirez
I don't think the FCC makes any announcement, the document states that all the info must be kept confidential. After that, when the date is passed, I'm guessing anyone can access the info about the device but the FCC won't be doing any announcement or anything like that, they're just free to give specs when asked (which is still good enough for me).
Posted by c96sthl
yup they will release everything....actually tht's what i mean...not tht FCC going to make an announcement...but they just release stuff for public viewing.
But at most of the time....stuff whcih FCC start loaded into this sites shows the product already reviewed and approved to have meet FCC requirement.
remember a few yrs back we always see new Nokia and SE product before those company announced...and FCC becoming a source of leaked info.
so now they seem to stop that.
now...if SE cannot announce it on 28th May.....it will either let FCC release everything or they make another request to keep on stopping any document being released.
most of the time like K550 or W610....they come into the market soon after FCC info is posted at FCC site....so I believe so far...the accs which lead to this assumption of 28 May being the next announcement date will have a very fast time to the market.
Posted by JC08
I certainly do hope the announcement is the 28th of May