Posted by Script
Is it walkman 3.0 in this phone?
Posted by icaka
On 2007-05-17 16:38:07, Script wrote:
Is it walkman 3.0 in this phone?
yeah,nice question.Anybody knows?
so about the JP-8 you didn't understand me quite well I think.
If it is a non-smartphone as the Z750(with its UI) how could it be smartphone with UIQ?The UIQ isn't a Java platform,is it?The JP-8 is more like an add-on to the UIQ(or am I wrong here?) and doesn't affect UIQ's GUI ?
sorry for the mess guys
Posted by JC08
If this has 2mpix cam it can surely not be the flagship walkman?
Posted by goldenface
Found this on se-nse.
Shinobu is apparently for sale on a Polish auction site:
http://allegro.pl/item1949327[....]dyny_na_allegro_lodz_raty.html
Can anyone translate, price etc.
I wonder what other goodies are for sale there.
Posted by SilveR.
That I don't get is, Why are they using calling button again... that's looks %&/(..
The sed is it's only 2 mpx without autofucos, but it's a music phone.
Posted by goldenface
@SilveR
I think this is one of the phones that SE is hoping will have a big impact on the American market - along with the Z750i, hence the more conventional call buttons.
Posted by tomasz.luch
Translation from allegro:
"This the newest product from SonyEricsson, "Walkman" branded. It has 2Mpx camera, M2 memory card slot, it is very thin (about 10mm) and the screen has 16M of colors. This phone comes directly from manufacturer (SonyEricsson factory)."
They call it there X123i - so, for me it's prototype or some hoax.
And question how do they get to this phone?
The price for it is 2000PLN (it's about 500E) so it looks that it is prototype.
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Posted by Script
On 2007-05-17 17:27:27, goldenface wrote:
Can anyone translate, price etc.
I wonder what other goodies are for sale there.
680 USD
Posted by goldenface
@tomasz.luch
Thanks very much.
How would they know that the screen had 16M colours unless they obtained it directly from and SE employee?
It doesn't look like a fake to me, if you check the shinobu description on the 1st page of this thread, its a certain match.
Posted by janosik
the fist sony ericsson with 16 mil.color
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Posted by tomasz.luch
Probably it is some proto, but why do they sell it officialy on auction system?
This is the biggest polish auction system and it looks that this is some company which sells a lot of phones there. They are getting into troubles selling this phone officially.
Maybe they bought it from somebody and they don't know it is f.e. "stolen" from factory?
I think we have to wait what happen next with this auction. Maybe I can ask these company about some details about this phone.
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-05-17 16:38:07, Script wrote:
Is it walkman 3.0 in this phone?
Let me try and answer that question; would the current walkman 2 player be able to function with no return-key? I guess, there are two ways for
to do this; either edit walkman 2 or throw up the third version, which is due to be shown around this time anyways
Posted by victorm
this phone is awesome but 2 MP isn't enough that's the problem...
Posted by Mizzle
On 2007-05-17 18:06:24, victorm wrote:
this phone is awesome but 2 MP isn't enough that's the problem...
you guys like this phone, then you're going to be even more thrilled with Sofia. Cheers
Posted by victorm
@thecoolsha you know a lot of things !!
Posted by Script
On 2007-05-17 18:10:27, thecoolsha wrote:
you guys like this phone, then you're going to be even more thrilled with Sofia. Cheers
With 5 mp? Yeah, very thrilled
Posted by Rifqi_Aziz
On 2007-05-17 17:44:32, tomasz.luch wrote:
Translation from allegro:
"This the newest product from SonyEricsson, "Walkman" branded. It has 2Mpx camera, M2 memory card slot, it is very thin (about 10mm) and the screen has 16M of colors. This phone comes directly from manufacturer (SonyEricsson factory)."
10 mm and 16M colors? Wow, very thin and superb screen.
Posted by SilveR.
Guys don't forget this is walkman phone, most of walkman branded SE got poor cam.
THis looks oki..
Posted by taikira
On 2007-05-17 18:04:25, tomasz.luch wrote:
Probably it is some proto, but why do they sell it officialy on auction system?
This is the biggest polish auction system and it looks that this is some company which sells a lot of phones there. They are getting into troubles selling this phone officially.
Maybe they bought it from somebody and they don't know it is f.e. "stolen" from factory?
I think we have to wait what happen next with this auction. Maybe I can ask these company about some details about this phone.
If you click here, and then re-click on "more pictures", you can see this one:
Then, in my opinion, the package seems to be official package for pre-released products, or presentation products (same as records for radio-stations that don't have the same jackets that mass records).
So I think if this shop got an official "press-released" phone, it was by legal way, so they are able to sell it if they want...
On 2007-05-17 18:04:37, thecoolsha wrote:
On 2007-05-17 16:38:07, Script wrote:
Is it walkman 3.0 in this phone?
Let me try and answer that question; would the current walkman 2 player be able to function with no return-key? I guess, there are two ways for
to do this; either edit walkman 2 or throw up the third version, which is due to be shown around this time anyways
Well, as you know, SE proto always (or very often) have the "hang-on-off keys", while the final mass versions have "clear" & "back" keys.
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Posted by cristiano
@taikira
Z750 have those hang-on-off keys
Posted by victorm
more pictures here:
http://allegro.pl/item1949327[....]dyny_na_allegro_lodz_raty.html
Posted by taikira
@ christiano:
I know, but afaik nobody knows yet if Z750 is an exlu for vodafone or not. And nobody knows no more if the pics already released on SE.com shows the final versions for every selected market
Posted by Mizzle
several new phones will have 3 softkeys like z750. And this will change quite a few things in the UI - more than you'll think, but wait till there are UI videos of it at youtube. you'll see.
Posted by taikira
lol, I lust wanted to edit my post, to add that if you look closely at the Z750, it has 7 "action" keys, while shinobu has only 6, like most of the actual SE line.
All I want to say is that we have to consider Z750 as an exception.
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Posted by Mizzle
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let's just see about that.
Posted by Script
On 2007-05-17 18:46:41, SilveR. wrote:
Guys don't forget this is walkman phone, most of walkman branded SE got poor cam.
THis looks oki..
The newone got but not the "old"
walkmans like w800/810. And that's very pitty
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Posted by alexlt
On 2007-05-17 14:14:26, thecoolsha wrote:
Once again, we have a 2 megapixel camera without autofocus (did anybody notice that red light on the back?). Keys are a bit special afaik. Ooh, and yes, same UI as Z750. Or, almost, since it's a walkman
Yes, I noticed that red light beside the camera .... so it's a ...
Posted by gauravsali
is there flash in shibou.or again a big disappointment?
Posted by taikira
According to the pics, it seems there is no integreted flash.
Posted by tomasz.luch
I've got some information about shinobu.
Of course this is from this dealer who sells phone on auction so that's not 100% percent cuz he is selling this..
First it has 16M colours screen.
He said it works on every band but i think he meant quad gsm and tri umts.
This is the first walkman with 3.0 version (nice).
And there is no accelerometer in it.
That's all he said to me.
Posted by Diffused
How wide is this phone? In some of the photos it looks to be the same width as a RAZR.
Posted by gauravsali
no flsh.......then what is use of cam.just for addition they hv put it.ohh.there must be flash.
Posted by karbonite
im impressed by SE's first 16 mill screen... but sadly the camera is jsut sad... i hope the next K series phone won't have this issues T_T
Posted by my ninja
8x4x1.5 cm according to some earlier posts, a few pages back
Posted by Rifqi_Aziz
On 2007-05-17 21:23:33, karbonite wrote:
im impressed by SE's first 16 mill screen... but sadly the camera is jsut sad... i hope the next K series phone won't have this issues T_T
Is it possible that Sofia will have 16M screen?
Posted by JC08
I wouldnt be surprised if Sofia had 16 mil colours....why put it in shinobu but not in Sofia...
Posted by Mizzle
definitely plausible!
Posted by Script
On 2007-05-17 20:13:21, taikira wrote:
According to the pics, it seems there is no integreted flash.
I think this red light near the camera is a flashlight. The phone with camera but without flashlight sounds ancient
Posted by bavlondon2
Whats the video recording on this shonobu?
Posted by domipost
@ script
i don't think so, it's to small for a flash light i think
Posted by bavlondon2
Is the announcment fo Sofia still July?
Posted by laurenke01
I think this bodes well for Sofia. It would seem illogical to put such a nice screen and all those frequency bands in Shinobu and not Sofia.
Can't wait to get more information.
Posted by kyle_274
now all i need is a big bag of money and SE 2 announce nd release this awesomely lovely beautifull phone so i cn get it...
Posted by cristiano
@thecoolsha
will sofia or shinobu are going to have QVGA @30fps or better?
Posted by bavlondon2
no
Posted by >500
On 2007-05-18 00:00:01, bavlondon2 wrote:
no
you sure about that?
Posted by iqtidar
guys the screen is not 2.4 inch... i just measured it... someone said that the phone is 8x4... the breadth of a 2.4 inch screen is 4 cm (for my n73) also... so the screen is smaller... n if they put a 2.4 inch screen on that phone there wont be enough space for the d-pad and softkey...
so the screen will be most likely a 2-2.2 inch...
but i dont think the phone is 4cm wide... looks wider.... like n73
r u sure it it 8x4cm???
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Posted by soane28
noones sure at all. Those dimensions are probably estimates from the auction website. Until the offical announcement we cant tell what size it will actually be
Posted by taikira
considering the fast port length is 1.8 cm (size taken on my W850), we can see that the long side of shinobu is around 9.3cm. So, by scale conversion we can determinate that screen's height is 5cm.
I made the scale conversion using this picture, which is quite in the good perspective to make good measures (my english is poor: not sure about this word...):
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Posted by deepu
If the camera module is mounted at the back of the phone(not the back of the upper slider), then that protuberance is pointless.
Also I dont think this is the succesor of w850, more like the big slider brother of w880.