Posted by SloopJohnB
u wish
ahahahaha
Posted by shaliron
Update:
Well there's a new Cybershot which is 14mm thin in development. 3.2 megapixel camera etc. Maybe the same as the W810 to the W800.
And, QVGA @ 30fps will be the standard video recording for higher mid range SE phones with QVGA screens it seems. That means K800 succesor and higher.
Posted by cristiano
shaliron
r u sure about 30 fps??will it be in the K series only or even the W series??
and will there be an AF in W series??
and is there going to be TV out in one of these mobiles??
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Posted by shaliron
@christiano
I don't know for sure. I don't have any specifics yet. These are the only things that have filtered through.
And another update:
Eldar confirmed that there will be quite a few more mid range phones (think Z550 type phones). Phones that will broaden the product range. Sliders, clamshells and candybars, all with mid range specs and (probably) very similar specifications.
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Posted by bavlondon2
QVGA????
Is that what was on the w900???
I suppose thats an improvment on QCIF but surley SE should aim higher as even the mid range Nokia 6233 shoots in VGA
Posted by cristiano
will there be any mobile with stereo speakers?????????
or a Wxxx with AF???????
Posted by bavlondon2
I dont think many of the W range will have autofocus any more as they would have used it in the w850 although i may be wrong.
Posted by >500
af in
is very unlikely, stereo speakers though a different story, i think we will see something like that sooner than later ;- )
Posted by vrl29
here's someone still waiting (and hoping) for the S700's successor, design-wise and functionality-wise...
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i definitely agree with this post. gone were the days in which you could choose between the high-end P800 and the classy T610; lots of mid-range phones are being released by
these days. i used to keep track of all phones made by , but now i can't even distinguish one mid-range phone from another. i hope could read our pleas and return to their 'old' normal self that made them famous...
Posted by DragonEye
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didn't you guys already get a w900i?
Posted by mustafabay
Now esato dissowned the E530 but is now all about W880
Posted by cristiano
what r the specs of this mobile??
2mpx no af
stereo speakers
huge memory
??????????????
Posted by shaliron
@christiano
If we did know, it would be posted on the first page. The first post is all the information we have. I've put it all in one place. But yes it probably does have stereo speakers. Probably no AF as well.
Update:
I've updated the info on the front page again. W880 seems to be the model number.
There's a K800 variant which will have slightly updated specs but will be in a different form factor. Leads me to believe that if it is a clamshell, that it'll be the Z800 successor.
K510 with a diferent form factor.
One or two of the series will die. The K series is definitely going. Z might be going, but the P series looks dead.
Phones will be announced at 3GSM and CeBIT.
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/19971.php says that SE will launch five phones in October. That's for Taiwan, but not sure if it means worldwide.
Also, I believe the AF will return to the W series. Not equivalent to the Cybershots but maybe a 2 or 3 megapixel camera with AF will appear when 5 is the norm.
Posted by cristiano
shaliron
thnx ,sorry for too many Q
if K series died , which series will have the cybershot name??
W??or E??or M??
Posted by shaliron
@christiano
Well it's just like when the T series became the K series I think. It'll still be active until about mid 2007, so there still will be some new models coming out until then. The K series is just running out of combinations for mid range phones.
I reckon the new generation of series will be something like this:
E series = Emotional design
W series =
phones
M series = Smartphones and business phones
Z series = Clamshell phones
?C? series = A new Cybershot and general candybar series
J series = Low end phones
But then we'd have to have either:
? series = Slider phones
S series = Rebirth of series to incorporate sliders
Posted by >500
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Well i assume this will be phone described above will be the 'world' version of the japanese phone which was just released with the 3.0inch screen ( s903 or what ever its called) , i think this is HIGHLY likely
Posted by shaliron
Anyone else notice the pairs of phones? K650/W650, W880 (Walkman high end)/K800 variant, etc. all seem to be similar spec wise and form factor.
EDIT: The AI should be announced in November/December.
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Posted by cristiano
r u sure that W880 is the same as K800??
like Z530/W300??
Posted by bee87
What are the phones that will have the fastport on the side?
I'm guessing the reason why they decided to move it to the side (from the end) is SE wants to re-launch an external Flash unit, like a Hotshoe flash for cameras. Placing the fastport at the lower end of the phone prevents such an attachment because, well, our hands will be covering the flash unit.
What do you think?
Posted by shaliron
@christiano
No, W880 and the K800 variant (K800 in clamshell) sound similar. Maybe not spec wise purely, because on is
and the other is Cybershot, but both sound like high end clamshells.
@bee87
I suspect so as well.
speakers, Cybershot attchments, docks, and watches all would fit with the new Fastport placement.
Posted by cristiano
from where u get thies info?
Posted by shaliron
@christiano
I have my sources
Actually, I get this all from interperating what is said on Mobile Review forums and se-nse forums. This is just a simple thread with everything in one place.
Everything here is from trustworthy sources.
Posted by shaliron
Update:
The Handycam series could just be integrated into the Cybershot series. That means the slider with a twist could end up being a Cybershot instead.
Seems logical, and I've no objections. Why did imaging and video have to be separated in the first place?
Posted by >500
for the cybershot modelwe saw pics of on here not too long ago, the 2mp one, will it be released this year? Because, in order for it to be a 6233 competitor, it needs to come soon, so i think it will be released by the end of they year, maybe just before christmas.....
also, i want pics!!!!! Se must be getting really tight with their security pics wise....
Posted by shaliron
@ads
Apparently in Q1, January. That's what I think it is...
I was thinking the same thing too though, if it were to be a 6233 competitor it would have to be released pretty soon.
Posted by >500
if that pic was real, which i think it was because se-nse were told to remove it, it looked like a final design, protos usually have some little bits out of place, this looked complete, so no reason why it shouldnt be released before xmas, besides that would be good move by se to do so, give it a little market boost...
Posted by shaliron
Hope so too. But the guy who first posted it (chris), said that it was still in beta stage software wise. Might be out before xmas...
Posted by Wishmaster89
Do you think its possible that sofia will get the high quality video?
On the 1st page we have sofia as a successor to k800 and high quality video phone not necessarily handycam but cybershot. I know that its supposed to be slider based on M600 but wouldnt it be better just to merge those 2 phones into one with non-touchscreen UIQ candybar and making it as fast as k800? Maybe SE will realise that this kind of "operation" will make it a true hit and bestseller of 2007 and why do i know that it would become hit... because every SE fan awaits this kind of phone, incuding me
Posted by cristiano
i hope the non W series have better sound than K800. my K700 has better soundi want a Wxxx with great cam
Posted by vrl29
@dragoneye: the W900 was supposed to be the S700's successor, but it seems to be inclined more on the 'walkman' features than on 'cybershot' features.
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a little clarification here, i thought the "S" means "swivel", just like the S700 and the cancelled S600 were?
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Posted by shaliron
@vrl29
That was just a thought of mine. 'S' doesn't necessarily have to mean swivel though, it could be extended to sliders as well. Wouldn't be too bad considering there's only been one (not including the S600) swivel in the family.
Like the Z series started off with the Z700 which wasn't really a clamshell (which was subsequently followed by the oddly named Z1010).
Posted by vrl29
oh i see... thanks for clarifying that; anyway, interesting info you've got here...
Posted by DragonEye
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actually the w900 was the closest thing to walkman and cybershot...hanging out together IMO.. and it threw in some handycam for good measue...
the w900 2.0 is the best.. it has the spotmetry meter that first appeared in the s700 and also an auto flash mode.
definitely a worthy s700 sucessor imo.
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Posted by Rifqi_Aziz
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What is W900 2.0? Is there different version of W900?
Posted by goldenface
@Dragoneye
I agree, and it is puzzling how the W900i's capabilities haven't reappeared in another model.
- Will the cam on the new 2.0mp Cybershot be as good as that on the W900i?
- When will we see the W900i's video capabilities (15 - 30fps recording) appear on successive models?
- Will the next high-end phone be both Cyber-shot and Walkman branded?
- Do people still think a handset will appear with 'HandyCam' branding?
Questions, Questions.
Its seems the W900i is a peculiar phone indeed.
Posted by vrl29
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good point there dragoneye. i must admit that its camera features are indeed worthy of notice, what with the good features of the S700 (spot photometry) and K750 (auto focus) combined. however, it doesn't have the looks of a typical digicam, something the S700 has...
and by the way, in your post, you mentioned "W900 2.0".i presume you mean the W900's 2.0MP camera?
Posted by shaliron
Will the cam on the new 2.0mp Cybershot be as good as that on the W900i?
I'd say so. The K750, W800, W810, D750 and W900 all shared the same camera and Eldar said that the camera is the same as the K750's. The W900's photos seemed superior in my opinion because of an ability to process the photos better (hardware) and that the firmware was more advanced than the K750's one. I can only expect that the K650 will have even more superior photos to the old ones.
When will we see the W900i's video capabilities (15 - 30fps recording) appear on successive models?
Course we will
Just a matter of time. SE can't keep ignoring it.
Will the next high-end phone be both Cyber-shot and Walkman branded?
Never IMO. SE has separated the two, and both brands can't surely be on the one phone can it? The W900 was still technically a
Maybe, one day, there will be an Ultimate series with both features, but at the moment SE can't afford to produce then as resources are being spent on increasing profit through mid range phones. High end phones don't make much profit for the company.
Do people still think a handset will appear with 'HandyCam' branding?
Don't think so, and I don't hope so either. Handycam has probably, and should be, merged with the Cybershot brand. Cameras are cameras, and restricting Cybershots to QCIF is crazy!
EDIT: The K650 might not be 3G anymore, but I guess it could come in two variants. Anyone else agree?
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Posted by Prom1
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I wouldnt make a hard generalization about profits being low on high end phones. I dont have current data to challenge that, but I'll bet that making the M600 is cheaper than the P990i and that THAT is cheaper than the W950i (due to the HDD incasing & built-in shock protection, and case smooth velvet like finish). I'll bet the R&D spent on the P990i went into both and is now paying dividends. SE optionally could make a new Cybershot phone with same specs as the K800 in a different case - W900's video chip as I'm sure their still under purchasing stock contract - a case not to specialized and make significant profits. The screen is sufficient and economies of scale would benefit the company as well.
> SE keeps evolving and recent record profits continue that. I'll completely agree that
and Cybershot brands will not unite. Features will be in that Black Diamond executive class.
Posted by bavlondon2
But wasnt the w900 video cpabilities only down to the 3D accelerator built in.
Im sur Eldar said the review that this was the reason for such high video recording capabilites but also the reason behind its battery life being lower than normal SE phones.
If this so, then why havent SE used that chip in other models since.
The must though surley improve the video.
Posted by goldenface
@bavlondon
I have heard it said that the W900i was also a sort of test-bed for upcoming tech such as the 3D chip and Video capabilities. So these will be incorporated into upcoming handsets - eventually.
Being able to disable the AF in the W900i set it apart from the K750i so maybe that version of the cam, with improvements, will appear soon too.
Posted by vrl29
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wow, this would indeed be a welcome feature... good camera phone with decent video recording capabilities; a must-have, i think.
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yup, i suppose the W900 is more inclined to the
series than to the cybershot. it would have been my next phone... 
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quite true, this adheres to the chinese principle 'better sell cheap items as long as many people buys them than sell expensive items and less people buys them' (well, i forgot the exact chinese phrase, but it is similar to what i wrote, hehe...)
Posted by d_t
Just a notion...the Moli mentioned on the first page has been released since long. Actually there is both Moli and a Moli Touch (and even a third not important version). Cheap and crappy phones
Posted by goldenface
What the touch slider? When?
Isn't it strange that we will probably never see a Euro version of the SO903i - I simple can't see that appearing over here, it looks too big for Western tastes, although I would love to see that screen on another form factor - possibly a flip.
Posted by shaliron
@d_t
Thanks
I've updated the info accordingly.
I think we'll see that screen soon on an SE. It'll be more logical than having a 352 x 416 screen as that wastes too much power. The widescreen is a good compromise. Also, a guy on MR says that SE will have a very similar specced version of the 903i from SE.
Also, I just thought of it. As SE is upgrading the menu/platform again, maybe it will be designed so that it can interact with the new accessories horizontally. That might explain the new fastport placement.
And the list of semi-known phones is around 24/25 out of the rumoured 40. We're on our way there
Posted by Prom1
Man I do hope a refined K800/790 like phone in a nice slider design (not too slim) debuts with the same or more power efficient yet same spec video chip that the W900 has.
And by God SE research a more responsive gaming-enabled or capable D-Pad. The one on the W810 is good, but not great. Make sure internal housing beneath fully supports it else the phone will creak!
Posted by shaliron
@Prom1
I thought the W550's d-pad was good. But I want a PSP type joystick on an SE phone. Now that would be good for gaming
Posted by d_t
I guess I have to be even more specific than in my last post:
What I said was that the phones named Moli and Moli Touch have already been released. They are NOT slider but clamshell phones. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out which ones they are.
Nothing said about future phones though...
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Posted by bavlondon2
Anyone think an announcment will be made by xmas to counter people thoughts on the n95.
Surley if they want to combat t en95 that will have to release at least one high end phone with good imaging and video if not HSDPA aswell by the end of q1/start of q2.
Posted by cristiano
shaliron or d_t
will there be a mobile with 3mpx or more +AF
stereo speakers with good video recording???
=W900 +stereo speakers, more mpx
what i mean is there going to be a successor to W900 soon or any time next year?
and if there's going to be a mobile like this when r we going to see it??
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Posted by doohan
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Yes... wouldn't that be great!
My PSP joystick is rock solid and still feels like new!