Posted by wap123
MY GOD, thats all i can say
Posted by S4k1s
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Nah, I'm actually happy for my old man.
Noooot! :]
Posted by shaliron
@goldenface
I have not been kidnapped
although I am feeling a little wary of SE lawyers behind my back 
@all
Thanks for all the compliments
And thanks to some of that promotion, this thread is fast approaching 46,000 views! Not very far away from 50,000 views.
Wow, I take one day off of the forum and all hell breaks loose, so to speak, at least regarding the amount of new info and mixed up information
There's quite a bit of new info.
Here are a few things to clear up for y'all:
- The K770 was never called a Cyber-shot. It was called 'the normal version', so it is a generic phone, not a Cyber-shot. SE is not stupid and they are not going to label a non-autofocus camera a Cybershot.
And the K650 and W650 will have the 2 megapixel auto-focus cameras, but only the K650 will be branded Cyber-shot. - The 'K770' is not the only one that will come in silver. The Ai (W880) will also come in silver along with the black colour.
- The Ai took the spy shots of the phones. Therefore the Ai will be called the W880. The W770 does not exist, full stop.
- The Ai's screen resolution is hard to predict, because a lot of people are saying different things. I know that MR is a trusted source, and he has used the phones, but he also has gotten some facts wrong. I also have a source who says that the Ai will definitely have a QVGA screen. We'll just have to wait.
And of course the mandatory UPDATE:
- The DVB-H phone will be showcased at 3GSM in February.
- I still believe that K770 will not be the final index for the generic Ai. I think K620 sounds more logical in SE's range of phones.
- Some info on Sony Ericsson's involvement in the DLNA.
Thanks goldenface for some of that
Posted by wap123
Damn
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Posted by mcrosser
you said it , wap123 !! I myself feel very anxious !!can't wait for 2007 
Posted by Residentevil
Only 17 days until xmas and only 24 days left in this year.
Posted by bavlondon2
Still no adiitional specs for the next k range phone apart from qvga video and 5mp imaging?
Posted by DeLa
If the speculations are true, then it seems like the development is slowing down somewhat. What giant leaps heve we seen since the k700 or k750/w800? 3G, sure and 'better' camera's, but that's about it.
'Spypics' always are that bad in quality, the phones never look any good. Once seen in reality they always look much better.
Posted by goldenface
I think 5MP is not such a bad leap! It might be a while before anything bigger than 5MP appears on a mass-market handset.
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Posted by BobaFett
i took ca 2 pix in 6mp format when i was lately in scandinavia, imo 3mp is more then enough for pix in average
Posted by goldenface
@bobafett
I totally agree! I've taken loads of pictures with my 2.0mp W900i and they were easily good enough for 7 x 5 prints, I was really impressed.
I really think the focus should shift to improving the video recording. That seems to be the 'Achilles Heel' of the handsets atm. that and optical zoom.
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Posted by croatia
Nothing about 16.7 million colors screens in newest s.e.? first came panasonic then nokia and benq siemens
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Posted by cristiano
croatia
maybe the next mobile T.V will have 16 mil colour
Posted by Prom1
@Shaliron,
what do you mean by " Some info on Sony Ericsson's involvement in the DLNA. " what does DLNA stand for?
Posted by goldenface
@Prom1
There is a link in the 1st post and I have posted some info here.
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Posted by mustafabay
So DLNA is similar to that Zune service, the one where you can share tracks(squirting?). Means wifi, right
Posted by goldenface
It sounds really cool.
I would imagine it to be like bluesnarfing someones phone and watching their files - with their permission of course.
Devices have to be Wi-Fi compliant in order to carry the DLNA logo. So maybe.
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Posted by deuxani
I agree completely with the posts about the amount of Megapixels. 3.2 (and even 2.0) is more than enough. They should try to improve the photoquality instead of only updating the amount of Megapixels. I mean, I really have the feeling that my W810i and W900i take better pics than the K800i.
Posted by bavlondon2
Yeah definatley, i was always happy with the quality of my w800 and even more so with the k800.
And 30fps qvga video will do me just nicely so long as the flash can be used in the dark in conjuntion with the video.
Posted by croatia
If you do pics on paper standard pic is 15x10 cm ,ours eyes CAN'T c more than a 2 million pixel on 15x10 cm like exist speakers with 70-80 khz treble our ears CAN'T hear just till 20khz !understand me?
P.s. I almost forget:i take a pic with my k750i daylight of course and friend of my take same pic with a 6 mpix cam we compared 2 pics on paper 15x10 cm later i really can't c big different
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Posted by shaliron
But at the end of the day, it's easier to sell megapixels to the public, than it is to sell 'image quality', no matter how horrible that sounds.
@crotia
Having a 16 million colour screen would be nice, but the battery drain isn't as appealing. Think of the 6131 and the VSx series. Not great battery wise.
@mustafabay
I guess, in a way. But the Zune is pretty poor sharing wise really. All you can do is the very limited, three-plays-and-you're-up, sharing of songs.
At least with DNLA it would be more like remotely accessing someone else's mobile content and streaming it across to your mobile.
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Anyone else not crash hot on what the new designs are going to sound like?
Sharp corners and small silver keys.
I've always preferred European designs to Asian ones. Only exception is the S700, but even then, that was pretty curvy and rounded. But look at the Asian inspired W300.
But at least there's going to be more metal
And boba, you're back
Nice to see you around again.
Posted by hgautam
Guys is it possible that u post the spy pics also on the first post... Not everyone will be able to find it easily...
Thank you
Posted by >500
hi all, just got back from a 1 week holiday
good to be back..... ive read all things i have missed this last week, is there anything else i need to know?
shal?
Posted by shaliron
@hgautam
Click the names of the phones to see the spy pics (if available)
@ads
Hey you're back! I noticed that you weren't here, but it's the end of the year.
Anyway, all the updates are on the first post. But yeah, we got spy pics of the Ai, W/K650
Posted by >500
yerp, not long now til' we see somemore phones (better phones)
saw the spy pics, atm, they look ugly.... But as usual, retail version will different...
Posted by croatia
Yep european looks of s.e. units i forget w42 or something go to on japan market,asia looks coming for us in europe :-( 16 million colors?yes i know for batt probs it's just my wish and maybe we don't need a 16 m screens maybe we need 262k with better drivers or contrast?screen on w810i is really amazing maybe the best 176x220...
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Posted by cristiano
shaliron
i know i'm asking too many qustions
can't u ask ur sources when does W910,Maria and Elena will be in market???
sorry and thnx
Posted by jack00
in my opinion i think, that these new designs are getting very popular when they are on the market
just wait and see, finally se tried something new - thank you
Posted by wap123
I hope that with the new designs there aren't alot a firmware problems that comes with the designs.
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Posted by wap123
these are supposed to be sneek peeks of the w44s, not sure if they are real
Posted by dr_thug
@Wap1223,i think that phone has been launched in Japan..u no longer need to see their leaked 0ut pictures.You can see their official pictures in their official website.
Here you go http://www.sonyericsson.co.jp/product/au/w44s/index.html
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Posted by wap123
aight
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These phones wont be headed for the uk or europe though will they?
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I definitely don't want more than 5mp on phone camera. I think 3.2mp is more than enough. More mp make the pixel pitch too small and the picture will be noisy. Not to mention the requirement on phone memory. I want optical zoom and better high ISO (low light) instead. QVG video also a must I think.
Even dSLR community that I follow question the benefit of more than 10mp on APS-C size sensor. And this (APS-C) sensor is much2 bigger than phone camera's sensor. I think more and more ppl will understand that mp is not everything in good camera. There are other issues like noise, dynamic range, color, etc that define a good camera.
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Not sure about optical zoom to be honest. To have that sort of module the phone would have to physically be bigger which I dont think SE are keen on (and too right lol). It can also somtimes be a hinderance as the n93 pics arnt to much better than the n73 in some situations.
But your right 3.2mp is good but they have to have better video.
Posted by wap123
i dont know, most likely they might just stay on the Asian market but you never know
Posted by DruB
I have a couple of ?s:
1) Will the successor to the M600 impliment the same type of keyboard?
2) Will SE cont. to use the "i", '"a" models . . .basically will there be more
offering for the US market in terms of 3G handsets. (I wish my M600
was 3g!!)
3) When can we expect to get some confirmations from SE?
I love to hear that there are great things for 07, but I hope its actually reality, the wait for the P990 was horrible! I hope to see some Tri-Band 3G phones from SE too!
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Posted by >500
drub, Firstly Sony dont make phones, so count that out...
now, to your questions.
1. The new m600 will most likely have the same keyboard, thought thats just a guess. But its logical. We know it will have a camera though and wifi, as will the new w950i, they will be similar phone, only the w*** will have
software.
2. Its more than likely the 'i' (international) will continue, as will the 'a' (America). And more American models are probably on the card as
has so many phones in the pipeline for 07.
3. Announcements will be fairly soon, be patient
The major announcement will be at 3GSM as usual, but one will happen before then. I will not say any more.
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Posted by djgrimey
How soon days,weeks,months.lol.the wait is painful.great fone for me would be m600 with at least 2 mgpixel cam af and flash, along with wifi.
Posted by PeterKay
A few more weeks to wait for more announcements.
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Well, Sony bought KM camera division (dSLR not compact) but many KM compact camera is very small with internal zoom (no lens protuding as they use mirror and move the lens element inside the body). Some cybershoot also use this technique but tad bigger than KM one. The phone will not be as small and slim as future Ai but I think the size of S700 can be achieve to provide 2x optical (internal) zoom.
And remember this may even require smaller sensor so bumping mp will mean less quality (noise).
Posted by >500
as Peterkay said, wont be long
Posted by cristiano
new infos from the insider at M-R
there are two more handset from this collection
they are cybershot brand one of them have 3.2mp + cam 3G the other have 2mp cam both low-mid end phones nice design nice price nice timing
se wil show alot of phones in the 1Q 2007 (somthing like samsung)
Posted by jepherberich
the wait is excruciating. i want to see what these new "asian" cybershots will look like. (dont misinterpret that - i'm asian myself. but those Ai spyshots dont appeal to me the least)
not that i'd be replacing my k800 anytime soon though.
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Im surprised there arnt any leaks yet for any of the high end cybershot phones if an announcment is only a few weeks away.
Posted by shaliron
Some persons here know more than they put out
But anyways...
To draw some conclusions to what the insider said:
they are cybershot brand one of them have 3.2mp + cam 3G
Could quite possibly be the K810.
the other have 2mp cam both low-mid end phones
The K650.
se wil show alot of phones in the 1Q 2007 (somthing like samsung)
Well we all knew that anyway
UPDATE:
- Playdead from M-R said that there will be an announcement in '~25 days' as of the 11th of December. The Ai and some other phones will be announced.
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What do you mean with "'~25 days' as of the 11th of December"?
Is that 25 days after 11th December means 5th January?
Posted by shaliron
@Rifqi_Aziz
Approximately 25 days after December 11 is what I meant. That's what he said. So around the 5th of January.
Posted by Rifqi_Aziz
Can't wait til 5th January '07 then...
Sofia and Elena are the most I want to know more about.
Thanks to shaliron for correction. LOL.
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Posted by shaliron
@Rifqi_Aziz
I think you mean 2007