Posted by >500
now is dsp is something more realistic and something we will see this year afaik
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Posted by cristiano
we want sofia
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Posted by awtroop
So... MegaBass was cut out of K800 ... and was reintroduced in the W850, to make the Walkman(s) seem 'better'. 2mp AF was cut out after W810 ... and will be reintroduced in the 2mp Cyber-Shot, to make the Cyber-Shot(s) seem 'better'. And QVGA 30fps video recording (3D graphics card) was cut out after the W900 ... and will be reintroduced in the 5mp Cyber-Shot, to make the Cyber-Shot(s) seem 'better'.
What a marketing strategy
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Posted by >500
sofia will have nvidia goforce5500 graphics chip...The newer version of what w900/p990 had. I know its still only qvga, better then crappy old qcif, but i bet it will be much better quality with the new chip.
Posted by dr_thug
Yup time to move on from 'phone meets camera OR music' to 'Walkman meets Cybershot.'
Posted by Macpersil
The super phone will you find in the w950i sucessor with probably 4 or 6 gb and and 3,2 mp cam.
Posted by dr_thug
The 3.2mpx wont have autofocus or best pic or image stabilizer...se will screw it somehow.they just wont deliver everything in one.
Posted by Macpersil
i wouldn't say no autofocus, think about p990i it has an autofocus.
Posted by bavlondon2
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To be honest mate for phone recording QVGA (as on the w900) is just perfect. VGA like the n93 is a luxury and with that luxury comes the need for large amounts of memory. I think that goes over the limit for what a phone needs in terms of video. And anyway the n93s video in night or low light isnt anything to shout about. Noise is clearly visible on it where as on the w900 videos shot in nighttime it is a lot clearer with no distortion.
I do hope though they have a better lens cover system than the k800. Perhaps one like on the w800 or s700.
Just out of curiosity when you say Sofia will be smaller than the k800, what will the screen size be?
Posted by marran
does anyone know if maria will be a walkman or a generic?
and what about wlan?
Posted by b35ty
According to rumours, it should have WLAN. And since it's w950's successor, it should also be a walkman.
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Posted by Yessir
Are any of those phones quadband or are they all just for Europe and Asia?
Posted by pooyan13
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The K550 is quadband, dont know about the others.
Posted by >500
both Marian (new w950) and Elena (new m600) will have 3.2mp (cam should have af) and will be sister phones like they are now. One
one non walkman.
Then we have Lizy which will probably be shown at 3gsm, which is just a silver m600i (metal perhaps) , Same size almost just a little thicker due to addition of wifi.
Internal memory for Maria is either still 4gb or 6gb.
@bavlondon2
screen size is 2.2inch apparently....
Posted by Rifqi_Aziz
I remember a review of iMobile 902 at mobile-review which said that SE's camera will use the same camera lens as applied in iMobile 902 (5 MPx, can be interpolated to 8 MPx).
That iMobile 902 is currently available here in Jakarta, Indonesia, for Rp 2,999,000 (about USD 330 with exchange rate USD 1 = Rp 9,100).
This price is cheaper than SE K800 (Rp 3,299,000 or USD 362), considering that K800 only has 3.2 MPx camera.
Posted by >500
@rifqi_aziz
you are right, the imobile 902 5mp cam is said to be the same as what sofia will have. The images it produced were good, but in some areas it was lacking quality...
Posted by kenx3000
Now now, i-mobile qualities is by far worse than SE. They are housebrand! Their 5MP was only measured full of 3MP effective. Unlike other companies who uses a real MP as their resolutions. Sofia's quality would without doubt way better than of i-mobile's.
Posted by >500
@kenx3000
some of the photos the imobile 902 produced were decent. And sofia is said to have the same cam unit. So photos might turn out the same. But im sure sofia will be better...Who knows, maybe the changed the unit for sofia, or just made a lot of changes to the imobile one.
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Posted by kenx3000
If what is said is true, then now it all depends on image software rendering, lens, and censor that would make a big difference in imaging.
Posted by Xajel
so lets gather the K850i info's, I hope I remeber all true
- codename : sofia
- name : K850.
- screen : 2.2 scratch resistance with QVGA res.
- Port : FastPort on side.
- size & look : size of K610 with metallic finish.
- Video recording : QVGA@30fps video recording.
- Mediaplayer : no Megabass.
- Camera : 5MP camera, Autofocus, Xenon Flash, LED light.
- UI : no new UI, just normal improvement over K800.
- keybad : same as K770 but slightly bigger.
- Memory : 64Mb built-in & 512MB MS Micro included.
- color : unknown.
Posted by >500
id say a lot of that is true Athlon
Posted by Rifqi_Aziz
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What's the purpose of LED if there's already a Xenon?
Posted by Xajel
@jedi
thanks, but will you correct any thing you thought it wrong ? just to make every thing clear
@Rifqi_Aziz
same as K800, if it too dark, how can you take a photo of thing you can't see ??
the Xenon Flash is able to have brighter light but for very short time only, the LED is able to work for long times ( as long as the battery can handle ).
Posted by >500
ill rephrase my above post..Yes most is true though im unsure about internal memory and the mem card included. But the internal amount does sound logical, but maybe it will have even more than 64mb, again i dont know that for sure though...
And the extra led is possible to help with video recording at night, this feature was missing from k800. Now if
really do read these forums then im sure they saw the complaints of the missing led in k800 where you couldnt record with light at night, so maybe they added this to sofia....
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Posted by dr_thug
I think esato missed this news...
http://www.eetasia.com/ART_8800449858_499486_0855a8ae200701.HTM
Posted by Bambino
wow... maybe if SE really buy intel flash mem manufacturing plant. maybe we gettin at least 128mb internal mem in the future SE models.
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Posted by Aware
"I do hope though they have a better lens cover system than the k800. Perhaps one like on the w800 or s700."
Spot on, Bavlondon! The K800 cover is slow to slide, and causes damage to the back of the phone as you open/close it!
The S700/W800(owned one, replaced it with the other, lol) 'switches' were vastly better, faster to use, not clumsy at all, like K series are(yes K750 suffers too)......
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Posted by goldenface
I very much agree. I would like the one side of Sofia to look very much like a camera but I think they should make it simple and as maintenance free as possible.
I liked the S700i's solution. The only thing that let it down was that the camera surround tended to scratch easily.
Posted by Aware
Scratches......yes, a problem when you use painted plastic instead of 'proper' metal........maybe this time, eh??
Posted by goldenface
I still think the S700i is a good looking device. I'll probably go for Sofia myself but make sure I get a good leather cover for it.
Only about 2 weeks to go until the announcement.
Posted by >500
they should supple Sofia with a pouch like they did with the w950i. It protects my w950 very well
Posted by goldenface
That's a good idea.
As
flagship camera-phone it should be looked after properly, and for those large 5MP snaps it should come with at least 256mb ext memory.
Posted by cristiano
anything about opitcal zoom in sofia??
Posted by goldenface
I am beginning to suspect that optical zoom won't be included in the specifications.
Sofia is rumoured to be smaller and slimmer than the K800i - it would be some achievement to squeeze optical zoom into such as small package.
Though I am only guessing.
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Posted by Wishmaster89
It depends how "big" it's supposed to be if 2x optical zoom then it would be quite possible to put it in phone thinner than k800 but something like 3x is 'almost' impossible but I hope I'm wrong
Posted by goldenface
So if Sofia is basically an upgraded K800i with a metal case, then wouldn't that leave room for an even better camera-phone from
with Optical Zoom (OZ) ?
Posted by Bambino
wow... maybe if SE really buy intel flash mem manufacturing plant. maybe we gettin at least 128mb internal mem in the future SE models.
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Posted by >500
im thinking optical zoom wont be in sofia. But will be used in the handycam phone???
Posted by cristiano
it's not hard on
to put an opitcal zoom in sofia
coz SONY have puted 3x optical zoom in 17mm camera thick
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Sony/sony_dsct11.asp
so sofia may have 19-22mm of thicknes to fitt optical zoom in it
if Sofia has almost the same size as K610 (which is 17mm thick)
than it's ease to put optical zoom in it
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Posted by Mr. SE
Sofia has no optical zoom, it`s too bad!
Posted by bavlondon2
Optical zoom doesnt always give you better pics. Look at the n93. The n73 takes better pics than that.
And SE always produce good results.
I just want 5MP with AF and video equivilent of the w900. A bit better lens cap design and im sorted. SE are always good all round phones so im not worried at all.
But if i see qcif................................................lol
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Posted by marran
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Nice, I love wlan in p990, but wan't a walkman.
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Posted by cristiano
@b35ty
coz MARIA going to be in market in Q4 2007
tooo late can't waite for it
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Posted by cristiano
i hope that the upcoming UIQ3 support for arrabic language
most of the people in mid-east use
mobile but few of them use uiq3 coz the lack of arabic
the S60 is simbyan and it has most of the languages unlike UIQ3
Posted by goldenface
About Sofia. One of the main gripes about the W900's video recording is that it was only available to send to other phones capable of playing it. There was no other video recording size. I hope Sofia can record in different resolutions.
Posted by axxxr
Latest Rumour: The W900 to be re-released again.
Posted by Yessir
That just brightened up my day I love that phone!!!!!!!!
Posted by axxxr
I have heard that the
W900 will be released in some kind of special edition.
Will try and get more info on that as soon as i can!
Posted by >500
oooo
special edition meaning what? A new colour? Different specs (doubt it) 3.2mp id love that
Cant wait for more info axxxr
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Posted by cristiano
this is my first time to bring info's to u guy's
there will be a
of the K800 a slider
with 3.2mp
my cousin just came from ukrain and he saw it and hold it
3.2mp+xeonon flash
any more infos i'll tell u