Posted by Vipera ammodytes
All SE phones comparated with n95 is just like toys! SE have fools in their marketing section!SE is very SLOWLY!
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Posted by DragonEye
first the battery in the n95 right now is 950mah... which is way too weak... since nokia's haven't been know to be the most battery efficient imo....
i've used the n80.. i gave it 3 chances.. and the battery life is terrible making the phone a pure waste. i got about 16 hours out of it... tried about 3 different firmwares as well.. i wanted to like it soo bad cause i was bored with SE's midrange and 1 highend lineup
the n73 and n93 however pack respectable batteries
Nokia Battery BP-6M (1100mAH), i had no issues with either of these phones in regards to battery
why on earth would nokia not use that battery in the n95 or at least the same capacity???
for the ones that you that think you need a touchscreen or the device is doomed lol.. se is getting it's butt kicked in the smartphone department so get real...
SE needs to drop these UIQ touchscreen phones and launch 2-3 hardkey all in one devices with comparable specs based on UIQ and then we can finally see some real action... but right now UIQ doesn't stand a chance against s60
but then again... they've never been in the running... just a bunch of hardcore se junkies... like everyone on these forums like myself
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Posted by shug
Damn they always leave something out! I'd rather have a phone as fat as the N80 with a new 1500 battery and the 8gb harddrive. The limitations of the FAT miniSD card size are starting to become apparent.
Hell the phone would still be tiny for what it can do.
Posted by etaab
@ darky - you appear to be the ignorant one mate, lack of touchscreen does not automatically mean a bad phone which you appear to have said.
@ Prom1 - im sure if you did use wi-fi heavily you would have an issue with battery life, but i doubt the N80 would last less than a full day for you, and the N93 would last longer.
A slight correction however, apparently the BP-6M battery the N93 uses is a 1100mAh capacity, which is significantly larger than the N80's. DragonEye also pointed this out, which i double checked with Nokia's specs.
@ QVGA - we say high definition when compared to the natural average screen resolution. The N80 has a resolution of 352x416 pixels, compared to QVGA screens of 240x320, its significantly larger and better in resolution.
@ to everyone in general, take a look at the picture in the following link:
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]6/nokia-openstudio-ny-en.shtml
And here it is courtesy of mobile-review.com..
The N95 isnt much larger than the tiny (IMO) N80. All i can say is SUPERB !:D
Posted by amnesia
the N80 isn't tiny to me.
And MR's hands are HUGE.
"SE needs to drop these UIQ touchscreen phones"
No they don't, It's a different market. It's the Symbian PDA market...
I don't know about others but I was saying that if it had a touch screen it would be perfect for me.
UIQ 3 is having it's problems because it's a fresh system but UIQ 2 was fine, there was TONS of support.
The reason why there is alot of S60 support is because many people use Nokia's and Nokia was smart enough to use S60 in ALOT of their phones.
I really need to hold one of these in my hands. It's specs are great at the moment. I hope it comes in a 'white' variant.
as for the High definition comment, I have to say that I will forcefully 'not' call it High definition, simply because it is not. What happens when there is a higher res? Are we going to call it Super high definition?
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Posted by Coxy
God its a brick! N80 is certainly not tiny!
Posted by mario2004
Is a bit smaller then the N70 ! Not by much thou. Certainly not a brick - next to the P990i looks small indeed :D remember this is the most featured cell on the market ! In my opinion the screen is a bit to big for a S60 (almost as big as the P990i) others may like it like this thou.
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Posted by etaab
I suppose it depends on proportions. Im a rather large guy over 6 feet tall and with large hands, to me the N93 is a nice size, the K750i especially its keypad was too small, the N80 seems tiny to me.
So, the N95 will seem tiny to me. I love it, alot, even its sides i like the look of which normally is something i find boring. If you feel the N80 and N95 are large phones, you probably have smaller lady-like feminine hands or different body proportions resulting in things appearing larger to you than others.
@ amnesia - when we were using Nokia phones with 176x208 size screens, 176x220 was labelled high definition, when were were using 176x220 screens as standard QVGA screens were labelled high definition, and now that 352x416 or even VGA screens are appearing in handsets, they too are labelled high definition.
Dont think of the term high definition as the same thing you'd find in a HD TV, its not, its simply a label the media give to phones in this business with higher resolution screens than the average screen resolution. As technology moves on, so does the label as to what is considered a high definiton resolution within a mobile phone.
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Posted by amnesia
I know what you mean etaab, I simply think that the use of the term High Definition is wrong.
Posted by etaab
Possibly, since like i said its easy to assume that when using the term its the same one as when applied to HD TV, which is many times higher in resolution than VGA or 352x416.
Posted by amnesia
I like the Asian way
Just state the resolution as it is.
Posted by DragonEye
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well maybe not drop touchscreen completely but rollout some non-touchscreen phones.. UIQ 3 is capable and SE's UIQ/pda line up is honestly not that great.
Posted by darky
how many of you bet they will release the same phone with a keypad 1 or 2 months later and add a number to it, and then everybody would be like ohh look it has a keyboard -_-
people don't seem to care about quality of phones anymore all they care about is an increasing number oooh look it has 10 mp, face it camera phones are still far from good cameras and 950 mhz battery is a joke, and 320x240 res what good is near dvd quality if the screen can't handle vga, I'm not saying it's a bad phone but they're are alot of other phones that are gonna be released, people here seem to think all phones come from Nokia and S.E. , look at the what the Japanese and Korean Phones are doing.
These are forums where we state our thoughts of opinions and what we want/like not just go with the flow, forgive me if I don't drool over every new released phone, or if I anger a fanboy, that doesn't make me stupid just means I got enough balls to not care what everybody else thinks.
Posted by axxxr
Here's another VIDEO of it in action....It looks really good but the lack of a touchscreen lets it down in a big way.
Posted by bugsiiy
damn it,now my n93 is slightly becoming obsolete
Posted by SL33PYH34D
Here is the thread on the other forum I mentioned earlier talking about the battery. There is definitely something funny going on regarding the battery specs.
http://www.whatmobile.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35418&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20#386667
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Posted by etaab
@ axxxr - how so ? i think the reason people say that is because the phone looks like a PDA type of phone until the keypad is slid open. If it had a touchscreen, it wouldnt suit the phone being S60, if i were to say they install UIQ onto it, sure it might work but i dont think it would suit the overall handset either.
@ bugsiiy - no not quite, in fact in some ways the N93 excels, the N95 correct me if im wrong does not have optical zoom.. ?
@ SL33PYH34D - its all speculation atm though isnt it ? even if the phone does come with a lower capacity battery than people make out, we simply dont know how efficient the battery will be until the final version or prototypes are released for review.
Posted by amnesia
@etaab, people are saying that because if it had a touch screen it would have a world more of possibility. It would definately make using the net easier, it would add an extra dimention.
Posted by etaab
I dont doubt you could do more, but in no way does the lack of a touchscreen cripple the handset in any way IMO.
Posted by amnesia
You seem to be misunderstanding. I'm not saying that the lack of the feature is crippling the handset.
I am saying that a touch screen would give it an extra dimension and feature.
Apps could use the touch screen, the browser would benefit from easier scrolling, it would be nice to make it a complete graphic utlitity and allow a simplistic 'paint' feature. Having a touch screen adds so much more possibility.
Posted by jj03
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lmao...no no..you got at least another ten "quality" months with your n93 before there's a hint of obsoleteness..lol
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And extra dimension in price aswell.
Posted by Prom1
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@etaab, I gotta go with Amnesia on this one.
Calling a mobile phone screen HD is gonna cause some confusion with users watching multimedia on their devices as well as a TV that is truely HD. I smell a lawsuit with some non techy person and a feaverish lawyer happening shortly ..... class action style.
Posted by amnesia
@qvga, I doubt it'll add much. But it would truely be worth it.
Posted by etaab
Heh, dont get me wrong i know exactly what you're talking about concerning the touch screen, i myself in the past have slated handsets for not having one.
But, having used the N93 now for 3 weeks, coming from a Windows based PDA and P900 history i dont find the lack of the touchscreen all that necessary unless you're using powerful, complex, sophisticated and business aimed apps. The N95 is a S60 handset, so it wont be aimed at taking over PDAs or their touchscreen relevant advantages. Hell, the phone comes with mp3 player type keys in the top of the slide which you dont get on business phones.
If i want a touchscreen device, ill go with something running WM5, since the P990i and all other touchscreen devices not running a Microsoft OS atm all seem to be rather out of date.. ==> P990i..
Posted by amnesia
Yeah I personally don't like WM5 and the P990 is a let down, and seeing as it'll be a while before a P1000 is announced, I can wish the N95 has a touch screen.
But one thing I have to say is that it doesn't have to compete with the PDA market to have a touch screen. Take a look at that new SE flip phone for example.
Posted by etaab
I think the main problem with Windows on PPC and mobile phones is, its just rather dull and boring to use. As much as a touchscreen would be nice in the N95, i dont think id miss it. The phone will function fine without it IMO. Touchscreens suit some phones, and not others.
Btw, which SE handset are you referring to ?
EDIT: nm, i remember now, the Z558. Personally i dont see the point in the touchscreen. Also, i dont see the point in touchscreen phones if they have such a small screen. When i went from using a XDA2 to a P900 (and quickly switching back again) i realised just how tiny the P900 screen was, and it somehow felt a little unecessary to have a touchscreen on such a smalled screen device.
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Posted by bart
nokia will use the same maps for its gps as tomtom. deliverd by Tele Atlas a very good Flemish company
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i think the whole touchscreen thing is a chinese market thing.. they seem to really love hand recongition devices. the nokia has the 6108 i think
Posted by amnesia
I'd say it's an Asia thing. Middle East love it too.
Europe just doesn't like options
I'd rather have 60 million ways of texting than just 2, but that's just me.
Posted by FuricTrax
Not sure if this has been discussed already but do you think the N95 GPS will emulate a kinda in car GPS (like the TomToms with the view at an angle)?
If it will then I think that is great, if not then the uses are not as diverse.
Posted by bickit
Impressive!! just when i thought the p990 got that segment......now i wonder how much it'll cost? n93/p990 were almost matched, but now s.e has to think about a totally new model. and the fight continues........
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There isn't much of a 'fight', is there ?
Posted by harry23419
every nokia symbian phone is sluggishly slow would vote for p990 though it has 2 mpx cam
the first version of n95 would be freakingly buggy
Posted by shug
I can't believe there is discussion here as to whether this phone is superior to the P990- hell the N80 is superior to the P990!
Posted by mario2004
Yeah buddy, we know that - just be carefull 'Ares' might read your statement ! He will burn you for 41 days and 41 nights for stating the obvious :D
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Posted by darky
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Posted by bytes
saw this video link
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n95-video-1716.php
the first part is about N95, the video tells a whole lot
Compared this to P990i when it was first launched, looks like the initial trial version of N95 is much better than the retail P990i
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well, the P990 is definitely far from perfect. but i don't think mobile-review's assessment of the N80 coincides with yours. you can read about their experience with the N80 for two months after upgrading the firmware.
just when i was thinking about giving S60 another chance after throwing the last one out after two weeks of hell...
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n80update-en.shtml
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That vid takes some buffering :@
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I'd love to put it on mine too, but i don't have a spare couple of grand..
*sigh*
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Some people here are talking absolute rubbish and just sniping because it doesn't have an SE badge. I have and use a N93 as my main phone it is not slow in any respect and kills the M600 for speed stone dead IMO. The battery is 1100aMh and depending on just how heavy my usage is in any 24hrs means i may have to charge each night with light use it can last 2-3 days comfortably. My usage involves Diary entry, E-mail send and receive, Web Browsing over both 3G and WiFi, watching a film or video and Photo Album plus of course voice calls.
Re touch screens i thought this was something i couldn't live without, i have now discovered that this is not so as web browsing and even data entry can be achieved as quickly if not quicker than with a touchscreen. Web browsing is easier and better on my non touchscreen N93 navigation with the D pad and mouse cursor is far better than a touchscreen IMO and also has better viewing in all conditions. Also not just my opinion but that of Steve Litchfield @ All about Symbian has an excellent article on just how bad touchscreens are in anything but ideal lighting conditions. So who ever said non touch screen phones are useless what rubbish.
As nice and advanced as the N95 looks it will not be my next phone the couple of extra Megapixels is no big deal to me. The built in GPS and mapping whilst nice is also unnecessary IMO as i use a Holox bluetooth GPS and Tom Tom 6 and as i only use Sat Nav in the car power is not an issue thanks to a cigarette adapter for the phone. I just am not a fan of slider phones and prefer the keyboard on the N93 (Personal choice). At the end of the day we all pick our phones for personal reasons otherwise if we all wanted and had the same phones how boring would that be? But just now the contest between UIQ3 and S60 3rd Edition well there just is no contest and the winner is not UIQ IMO.
Marc
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Posted by bytes
Lets not turn this discussion into a nokia versus SE topic. Every phone has pros and cons and depending on individual's taste and preference. One man's meat another man's poison.
Lets just hope that the N95 comes out soon and comes out less buggy as compared to P990i.
The other aspects of a successful smartphone (or even a PDA) depends very much on third party software that comes out for it. Lest share the real issues instead of bickering for Nokia or for SE.
Posted by Dogmann
Hi bytes
I agree with what you say but some seem unable to hear a bad word said against there beloved SE and will slate anything that isn't SE. As far as apps are concerned who knows as the N95 uses S60 3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 Symbian 9.3 and only time will tell if Symbian 9.1 S60 3rd Edition apps will work on it but i would hope so. As to hoping this will ship with less buggy firmware than the P990 i would think so as IMO it would be pretty hard to to be anywhere near as bad.
Marc
Posted by bytes
Hi Marc, I am a SE fan too but we must be matured enough to accept not all SE phones are at their best, which the P990i sorely proof tis point. We just have to ignore those "fanatics" (but not fans like me pls) be them nokia or SE.
Coming back to the topic of this discussion, the Nokia N95 yes!
The video preview of N95 (need some buffering) shows the phone display thru a big LCD TV and it certainly looks more stable.
Saw another forum said that O2 release for N95 slated for Feb 7, 2007
Posted by jj03
as always..we'll have to wait for the fully working handset before making our minds up...it certainly looks interesting....
Posted by bytes
N95 sales package includes
Sales Package Contents
• Nokia N95
• Nokia Video Connectivity Cable CA-75U
• Nokia Connectivity Cable DKE-2
• Nokia Stereo Headset HS-45, AD-43
• Nokia Battery BL-5F
• Nokia Travel Charger AC-5
Posted by bytes
The Nokia N95 was honored with Popular Science magazine's "Best of What's New" Award in the publication's annual search for the top 100 technology innovations of the year.
Posted by blackspot
They deserve it!
Posted by Red_Rach
For a 5mp camera it should at least have a decent flash. Looks like a great phone though and one I'm certainly going to consider buying!