Posted by solidsingh
if you are, click my profile and add me to msn!
must be 18+
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
me me lol
Posted by p900 lover
Me me, but when will you be starting cos i wont be in the country come Sunday
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
p.s. I was joking
aint you trying to recriuite peeps to sell gas and electric?
Posted by 50Cent
will this make me any money?
Posted by solidsingh
dan, thats fine you can do this anytime, 50 yes it wil make you some money
Posted by leeboy13
is this 'adult' related? we talking xxx?
if so i may be in
Posted by solidsingh
lollll no xxx
Posted by 50Cent
can you PM me a genral outline of whats involved?
thanks
Posted by solidsingh
i could but it would be much better if i could do it over msn because its longggg and its hard to understand the full potential of what im offering
Posted by Cycovision
So, condense it into a few paragraphs to give us at least an idea of what it is and what's involved, then we can talk over msn if it might be something that we're interested in!
I'm sure you know that if you were pitching this to professional investors, they'd stop listening well before five minutes were up if you didn't get the idea across straight away.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but I am technically a businessman (I run my own business) so I might well be interested, but I'm not prepared to discuss it without at least having an idea of what I'm meant to be discussing! You know where my PM button is
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
lol if peoplecome to you its harly ever worth it!
I believe the job is selling gas and electric correct me if I'm wrong
Posted by Cycovision
@luke
Not always mate, but I know where you're coming from
But if it's selling gas and electric then I'm definately not interested!
Posted by solidsingh
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that is part of it but its so much more and the potential is limitless and the salary is also limitless.
im only asking business minded people because not many people can see the potential in this opportunity and are very skeptical.
Posted by p900 lover
Iv added you mate
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
LOL, I dont think you can get much more business minded then me, I do business every day, every decision I make almost is decided upon profit, pay, motivation blah blah
You explained this to me I think one time, and yeh the "pay is limitless" but its limitless if you work for yourself if cyco changed his business he could become a millionaire....
@ cyco again I see what you mean, but I think i said it wrong, its the approach I meant as the way we are approached... I cant explain right now as Im like gone lol but I think you may get me there?
The one thing solid is yeh you want us to sell gas and electric and if we sold some we get paid commision but we also get paid a % every year they stick with this company.And for every person you sign up you get some £ and I also think you get a bit of commision for every customer they sign up and so on so forth? Am I right?
Without sounding disrespectful the only reason you want to get people to sign up is to get yourself more money (which is fine) but instead of using the air of mystery you should just tell people out right and give them all detaisl straight away, a true business minded person can spot an oppertunity no matter how its put foward to them...
Posted by solidsingh
ye thats the basis of it, and ill be honest ye, i wanna sign up more distributors over the net because it will earn me money , everyone wants to earn money right? luke i know you do a lot of business everyday but i wouldnt say you were as business minded as they get because you mostly buy and sell. this is different, im sharing this opportunity because when i went to do my training for this job the trainers told me tell everyone about it because in 5 years time when your earning a lot of money off it people will say to you " why didnt you tell me about it"
if you dont want to do it its up to you but it really is a great opportunity and im not entirely doing it for the money, im doing it to help others retire early and earn extra money.
my brother in law owns an estate agency in london and he introduced me to this, hes the only reason why i agreed to it because he earns like 20k a month anyway off his business but he thinks that he can earn more off this which is the main reason why i signed up. i thought to my self why the hell would he be doing this when he runs a business earning shit loads anyway?
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
LOL nice resposnse I gota give it to u thats smooth
But my comments to section one:
I don't just buy and sell as you know I do something else business related. I dont think this is really the kind of thing you get rich off if so they would be a huger aboutn of telleworkers who are loaded.
Section 2: It is up to us yes, but bollocks to the rest
section 3: Maybe hes just trying to help you out or maybe he was asked as a favor to sign some people up? If hes earning 20k a month then I think hes more the kind at the top of the ladder rather then the peeps who make the calls.... Hard to turn down that kind of income considering its more then a teacher would get a year...
Posted by Berry
This Pyramid system has been in operation forever...
I know someone who left their job to do something similar......
Later he filed for bancruptcy.......Its not as easy as you think.
Posted by solidsingh
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actually your wrong, this is the king of thing you can get rich off, the guy who trained me used to be a police officer and he retired in 5 years, his income from this overtook his police salary in 3 years and now his income rises by around 10% every month.
this isnt a pyramid scheme, its called multi level marketing. the company is only cheaper than the rest because it has a much cheaper way of spreading the word rather than using tv ads which cost millions.
Posted by solidsingh
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this is part time , you shouldnt leave your job for it until your income from this overtakes your job income
Posted by Berry
Surely multi-level marketing is the same thing...
There has to be someone at the top barking the orders and then people below him/her doing the same and so on.
But i will guarantee you one thing, the person who started it all, is paid far more than the people below him.
But Good Luck
Posted by solidsingh
obviously, mr charles wigoder is the owner of the company, he used to have a phone company which he sold to vodafone for 77 million, and my bro in law the one above me has been doing this for 4 months now and hes on a grand a month but he signed up LOADS Of people because of his contacts
Posted by SsTiTcH
Multi-level marketing is just a fancy name for a pyramid scheme. Such things will cost you more than you will make. Seen them in several countries and as yet NEVER have seen ANYONE get rich from these Schemes. But Good Luck SolidSingh hope it works better for you than Ive seen it work for others whove tried multi-level marketing schemes.
Posted by solidsingh
it costs you 200 to sign up, one off fee and you get this back if you sign up 12 customers in 90 days,
theres no way its gonna cost me more than im going to earn and believe me this is not like no other multi level marketing job
if its not for you then im not forcing no1 to sign up, i just thought i would share the opportunity
@all the people doubting this, ill be on the forum still in 5 years time and we shall we what you have to say then yeah?
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
ha ha, lol there is is the £200 start up fee lol
jw but whats the company called? The one you sell bills for?
If im on here selling phones and stuff in 5 years id be surprised, U can be a gas/electric sales man, and I will be the new ceo of apple, hows that sound ?
Posted by amnesia
@luke, being 'cocky' is the sign of a bad business man
Posted by 02
how about sending me a Business Proposal if you dont mind..
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
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lol u think? If your good you normally are (its the confidence)
Posted by amnesia
I think I've been pretty successfull with my ventures.
I can live comfortably without relying on my family for help.
But I don't wave it aroud
You see, when you act like you're number 1 and nobody else good enough, it might attract people with similar views but it'll put alot of people off. (that's an old 80's strategy)
Be humble and you'll go much farther.
Posted by solidsingh
i dont remember saying its going to be my career, its a part time second income kind of like a huge pension. im going to be an accountant
luke if you dont like the opportunity then maybe its not for you, no need for the cockyness
Posted by SsTiTcH
Good Luck on it m8. But like I said Ive seen too many of these schemes over the years worldwide. They dont work. And Ive better uses for my money than wasting it on such things. Stick to Accounting youll do better.
Posted by REO
Blah,Blah Blah.......
Sounds like a bunch of wana be's. I'm this, I'm that.........
When you're really sucessfull, there's no need to brag.... The majority of sucesfull folks don't brag about sucesses........
Food for thought.....
Posted by amnesia
hmmm, I've only seen one person 'brag'.
Are you sure you're not seeing tripple?
edit: oh and go away, I'm tired of your constant flame bait.
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Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
@ amnesia - lol true I do partially agree with you there, not saying im no one then originally I was just using sarcasm
But what I'm trying to achieve by this little discussion is that confidence is a big part of business, if you dont believe in yourself and your products (when selling something) then your customers/recurits wont believe in you, and although what I think you seem to be reading from me is cockyness in this case I am actually just trying to argue that I feel this isn't what its described to be.
But I also think its worth saying that when I try to sell something directly to a person I must appear to be confident and act confident and yeh makes you cocky, but its also effective, especially when trying to do what solid is doing.
My comment "If im on here selling phones and stuff in 5 years id be surprised, U can be a gas/electric sales man, and I will be the new ceo of apple, hows that sound ? " reflects this I think as its bassed upon truth and my desire to do well, I can never see selling bills to be one of those things your going to get rich off, but being the ceo of apple is just not going to happen is it? Even with ambition theres almost always someone better then you out there, does that make sense?
@ Solid I think its worth mentioning that this is a part time thing, when I was reading through this I thought you meant it was full time, nether the less I still dont go for it lol
also at your second comment again its my ambition showing though, yeh im cocky when it comes to business as I want to sucseede in life, I need to otherwise what else do people like me have?
@ SsTiTcH - I completly agree with everything you said there and accounting is the business to get into, my neighbour is a accountant, and they are minted, 3 bmw's big house, lots of shiny toys everywhere lol
@ - REO - I don't think you talk to allot of entrepreneurs, any self made person is very pashonate about their business, and if you ask them about their businss they will brag.
also yeh i am a wana bem, Im not there yet but someday hopefully I will, I have ambition and I want to do something with my life, I do believe that maslows heirachy is right and I am very unhappy right now so I would liek to get self fulfilment and the onyl times I come close is when I'm doing business
@ amnisia again - I don't think making the statement : "I dont think you can get much more business minded then me" posted by myself is bragging, more of a self reflection
but if you count that as bragging then reo is right more then myself did it
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Posted by REO
@ Luke-the-magic-man
It's spelled passionate not pashonate.
@ Amnesia you did'nt brag...... you were gloating
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
@ reo - Im dislexic and can't spell for sh!t
also aint gloating and bragging the same thing (maybe dif in USA)
Posted by amnesia
I think you need to re-read my post then.
Because I was trying to make a point that being humble is better than showing off.
@Luke, indeed you need to be passionate and self-confident. But that's the keyword, SELF confident
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
you lost me on that one....
Something about being confident in yourself...? but if one is to be confident it should show to others in one way or form
Posted by amnesia
pm
(I pmed Luke because I'm going to tell him something super sexy!)
Posted by REO
@Luke\\ @ Amnesia
I think this is getting sorted out. It's hard to sometimes make out communications in forums as the body language factor is missing.