Posted by rockerZ
yeh no doubt , NSeries seems better to me then E serious .The only exception is E90 , cuz it's a communicatior and its VERY COOL .
Posted by BobaFett
too? did u have n90 too? whats your opinion of cz lense and nokia cooperation?
Posted by GUCCI.011
Boba is that Q aimd at me? I havent used an N90,wud love to,and i wud like to get either N93 or N93i as wel, im not too big on cameras, i mainly use my phone for Web browsing, Chatting to skul mates on MXit IM app,listenin to music LOUD, watchng videos sumtimes movies and ye texting and taking the occasional pic or vid to, so dont realy have much to say bout CZ lense,bt comparing my N80 pics to my mates N73 pics i do notice a bit of a diff,not much though
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all,
Well this may come as a bit of shock to some but there are actually really big differences IMO between the N Series and E Series putting aside that the E series has better standby plug ins. Even if the E Series has the exactly the same hardware Nokia don't allow it to perform as well on the Multimedia side of things even if it is a flagship device.
I have just decided i am going to stick with my N95 and E61 and actually sell my E90, now don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong or bad with the E90 far from it it really is an awesome device IMO. But and it is a big but for Music the N95 really is much better it is louder and produces a richer sound the quality is not that different but the volume certainly is IMO. This factor has made me change my mind about my strategy, as it still seems you really can't get the best of both in one device yet even though the E90 has the same OMAP 2420 Chip Nokia have nobbled it's music playing ability and used a different Music Player including the fact it is not as easy to add Album Art that doesn't really bother me to much but why do it?
Although obviously Video playback is a better experience on the E90 due to it's huge internal screen this results in a much larger file size, and again Nokia have taken away the Video Centre found in the N95 again not the end of the world but annoying none the less.
So for now as i am not some one that really needs to utilise the full on Business capabilities of the E90 it will go and i will return to my two devices for needs. Maybe one day Nokia will allow all their devices to reach the full potential especially in a flagship device that is more than able to.
Marc
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Posted by GUCCI.011
Hi Marc
sorry to hear that,im a bit shockd because it realy seemed like you were enjoying the E90 i gues we will never realy see a Perfect All-In-One Device E90 has realy proved that.
Posted by Dogmann
@GUCCI.011
I'm afraid that appears to be true well for now anyway i have a more detailed answer in the E90 review thread and can't really see the point of double posting it here as well. But if you check that thread out you will see it was a decision i felt was right to make much to my disappointment. I must say. I really do like the E90 it is a truly awesome Buisness smart phone but IMO has been stopped from reaching it's full potential Multimedia wise consciously by Nokia.
Marc
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Posted by Chartreuse Eyes
Hmmm...n91 8gb has flash light?
Posted by BobaFett
n91 8gb has no flash light, its the same like n91
Posted by GUCCI.011
@ greeneyes
no N91-8GB doesnt have a Flashlight,its a great phone thou.
Posted by BobaFett
sdaly the screen resolution is really crap, even n70 is better imo. but true, great device, especially the wlan support was a great idea
Posted by GUCCI.011
@ greeneyes
no N91-8GB doesnt have a Flashlight,its a great phone thou.
Posted by Miss UK
I bought a N80 which arrived in the week it's in good condition however ive decided on taking it appart and rehousing it as it needs a UI anyway, rest is fine but my mates given me a brand new full back for it aswell.. in the end it will be a Black Pearl N80 btw lol
I firstley updated the softwear then decided to update it to the Internet Edition using the NSS and Nokia Update which i did this saturday I also done my mates this fw is better as ive not got WiFi scanning on main display
the phones very good im overally happy with it it's abit slow on bootup though are all N80's slow when you switch them on?
Posted by Prom1
Many ppl on other threads around the world have also purchased the E90 - only to enjoy it for a short 1-2mth period.
Out of EVERY review/thread that I come across this phone NOTHING bad is mentioned about it. NOTHING save for multimedia. And its not that it DID NOT perform well in multimedia, sound was MORE than adequate compared to other manufacturer's phones; but they end up letting it go.
ITs not even the size that has pulled them off. Many have VERY good things to say about its performance, power, voice quality, camera quality, BUILD QUALITY
; however something is LEFT UNSAID.
I'm willing to bet that its the portfolio design that has put many ppl off of the E90. Although the screen outside is good, its small in order to really enjoy videos web-browsing. Most ppl keep forgetting its design is for BUSINESS professionals - given Dogman's previous business I think he's the exception. However using it for multimedia - everyone will most likely & become accustomed to opening the phone to enjoy its full potential.
Personally before I return to the S60 platform from 2 years exodus, the N81 will need to ship or I may just wait until next year when the N82 debuts with Video out and rumored dedicated hardware graphic acceleration, a la N95
.
Posted by BobaFett
@miss uk the boot takes time in every smart fones, longer or shorter. compared to p990, imo n80 far more faster. my e60 takes ca 45 secs till boot ended.
Posted by Miss UK
The N95 boots up pretty quickley though looks like they fixed that problem by bringing out that
I can live with the slow boot-up anyway it's a good phone will look even nicer when ive changed the housing im hoping all my parts turn up before the weekend
Posted by A L 3 X
ugh im still not sure whether to sell mine or not...anyone got any advice?
everytime i look at i think yer might aswell sell it as the only thing i'd miss is WiFi but i have a laptop...its just everyone keeps telling me not to
Posted by Prom1
On 2007-09-03 17:09:09, A L 3 X wrote:
ugh im still not sure whether to sell mine or not...anyone got any advice?
everytime i look at i think yer might aswell sell it as the only thing i'd miss is WiFi but i have a laptop...its just everyone keeps telling me not to
Um sell what?
Consider this.
How often do you surf internet on your mobile phone? Via Built-in Nokia Browser, NetFront, or Opera Mini??!!
If avg 1hr or 30mins/day and its VERY consistent then your borderline going to NEED WiFi built in - especially if data coverage is faster on WiFi. (low latency)
Also are you ALWAYS wanting to lug your laptop around JUST for WiFi or Email ?? If no ...then keep the WiFi.
Posted by A L 3 X
its an n95, sorry forgot to mention
i use the mobiles internet less than once per week most of the time nd when using it i will use it for about 1 hour max, i can wait till im at home to check emails and stuff...
i dont know why im just feeling upset when thinking about selling it yet i dont really need it
Posted by Prom1
On 2007-09-04 00:53:22, A L 3 X wrote:
its an n95, sorry forgot to mention
i use the mobiles internet less than once per week most of the time nd when using it i will use it for about 1 hour max, i can wait till im at home to check emails and stuff...
i dont know why im just feeling upset when thinking about selling it yet i dont really need it
Lessoned value upon selling it I guess.
You may have paid a certain amount and there; at least within Europe, the price has fallen quite considerably.
Well, its STILL the only one that has fabulous video out (the N93 also supports video out - N92 I think as well). So its not a complete loss.
Posted by Dogmann
@Prom1
You are very right there does seem to be large proportion of people that bought the E90 that as you say for no particular mentioned reason seem to sell it within quite a short period of time and to be honest i am as confused about it as you are. The only thing i can think of is many bought it as a status symbol and then discovered it wasn't really what they needed as lets face it if you really don't need all it's functionality it certainly is a large device.
I really couldn't explain exactly why or what it is although in my case it was a combination of two things, the first being i was extremely disappointed in Nokia that even though it had the same hardware as the N93/N93i/N95 with the very powerful Omap2420 chip and graphics they saw fit to still only give it the E series Music player. Which i suppose is understandable as it is a E series device and really for business users but for me this was a disappointment and meant it didn't fulfill my needs as the ultimate convergence device which is what i was seeking to replace my two device strategy which was my current choice of use.
Though there have been some reports of uneven rubber feet and the keys leaving marks on the screen on some mine suffered from none of these faults. The OS was also rock solid and no issues with it at all. However after using the internal qwerty it would mysteriously leave grease marks on the screen which of course were easily wiped off but still slightly annoying. There have also been some reports from some of problems with the microphone although not that many from what i have read.
Due to these issues Nokia stopped releasing the E90 and have changed the hinge case design slightly to stop the screen rub. Although as mine was a later release it appeared to of already had this modification.
I most probably would of kept the E90 if it was not for the Music Player issue and the fact that i suddenly realised my ultimate convergence device needs were not going to be satisfied with this device. I also realised at he same time just how many devices i had owned an used in just over a year and decided as i was retired i really didn't need half the things i was constantly seeking in all these new devices besides costing me a small fortune i couldn't even guess how much i have spent in the 22 years i have been feeding my addiction.
Since then i have sold not just the E90 but also my N95 and have returned to using my current favourite device my E61 which for my needs is both fast enough and powerful enough. For my Multimedia needs i have now bought a 80GB Ipod which i have had now for 4 days not only do i now understand why people say iTunes is so good but as have i converted my Music @256kbps AAC and all the cover art was automatically added realise it really is a a great app and really does produce great results. I have also added a lot of Films and Videos of TV episodes in MP4 and the quality really is quite astounding on what is a really excellent screen IMO i now better understand what all the fuss about the iPod is about it really is a great bit of kit IMO great looking and excellent build quality and the scroll wheel really is very quick and easy to use. All i am waiting for now is my Vaja case to arrive to make it complete.
So for now i will still stick to a separate device for each of my needs until such time as my ultimate device appears if it ever does as i do believe Mobile device manufacturers just don't want to deliver one even though i do believe it is possible and i am not singling out any particular maker they are all as guilty as each other of this IMO.
After 22 years of constantly buying the latest and greatest released devices just because i could and to see what they can do is over for me at least. That doesn't mean i am no longer interested and won't keep up with any developments just my need for the latest and greatest is over. The only device i am really waiting for is the next generation incarnation of the E61 as for me the qwerty and large screen are about as good as it gets IMO.
The things i am looking for in this will be same design but with the newer OMAP SERIES 3 Chip and 7.2mbps HSDPA and that really are the only things i would like to see improved on. These are just my conclusions and the place i have reached after 22 years and am not suggesting this is what may be right for anyone else but i do believe it is for me and my current needs.
Marc
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Posted by A L 3 X
On 2007-09-04 01:25:34, Prom1 wrote:
On 2007-09-04 00:53:22, A L 3 X wrote:
its an n95, sorry forgot to mention
i use the mobiles internet less than once per week most of the time nd when using it i will use it for about 1 hour max, i can wait till im at home to check emails and stuff...
i dont know why im just feeling upset when thinking about selling it yet i dont really need it
Lessoned value upon selling it I guess.
sorry what do you mean by that?
that i will get less when selling than what i paid?
no i paid around 235 GBP inc. delivery and if i were to sell it now i would make almost the same so...
Posted by Dogmann
@A L 3 X
To me it does sound as though you are both bored with it and not really using it enough or to it's full potential to warrant keeping it. Believe me i have been there and done that many times over if you are lucky maybe you have learned a lesson quite quickly and relatively cheaply and maybe in future you will consider if and why you want a new device before just buying it because you can.
Their is of course the saying if it ain't broke don't fix it, which could be adapted to if your current device really does all you need why change it for something else just because it's newer or more powerful or has a better spec, if you really don't need it or aren't going to use them. Unfortunately in life the only way any of us really learn is from experience some learn faster than others. But really only you can decide what you really need or want from your device. Good luck reaching a decision and I'm sure you will reach the right decision for you.
Marc
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Posted by jepherberich
Hi folks, I have a question:
I have the N80 (Internet Edition, if there's much difference from the vanilla N80 other than the 512 MB card), and I was wondering if there's a way to get the music player from the N91 or the Music Edition S60 phones (N73 ME, N70 ME) into this thing.
The standard music player works fine, but the interface is very clunky. If what I ask above is not possible can you suggest other good music players that work with the N80? Thanks in advance.
PS. with the exception of
all my life
Posted by GUCCI.011
@ eskaparate,yes the N80 is a great phone,i have been enjoying mine for the past two months or so, i find the Music Player a bit boring,but a great music is LCG JUKEBOX, it has great interface and album art, unfortunetly i dont have the download link for it
@ miss uk, i find the N80 a generally slow phone,but for me its start up is on par with my previous phones ( SE W900) start up time.
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Posted by Miss UK
Buy a spare battery and keep swappin them around thats what ive just done
is this mad or what when my home wi-fi connections working with the phone I keep getting 02 settings coming to the phone it's hapened 3x now lol im assuming this is the problem has anyone else got this prob?
Where did you get version 5 IE for it?
Posted by jepherberich
hi, miss uk
Download and install the Nokia Software Updater
On 2007-09-04 23:49:23, miss uk wrote:
Buy a spare battery and keep swappin them around thats what ive just done
is this mad or what when my home wi-fi connections working with the phone I keep getting 02 settings coming to the phone it's hapened 3x now lol im assuming this is the problem has anyone else got this prob?
Where did you get version 5 IE for it?
Posted by jepherberich
Thank you sir! I tried it and it works well, but the interface is even clunkier than the standard N80 player
sigh. there has to be a way to get the Music Edition players into this thing. Anyone's got insider contact with Nokia?
On 2007-09-04 16:08:57, GUCCI.011 wrote:
@ eskaparate,yes the N80 is a great phone,i have been enjoying mine for the past two months or so, i find the Music Player a bit boring,but a great music is LCG JUKEBOX, it has great interface and album art, unfortunetly i dont have the download link for it
@ miss uk, i find the N80 a generally slow phone,but for me its start up is on par with my previous phones ( SE W900) start up time.
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Posted by mib1800
On 2007-09-05 07:32:56, jepherberich wrote:
Thank you sir! I tried it and it works well, but the interface is even clunkier than the standard N80 player
sigh. there has to be a way to get the Music Edition players into this thing. Anyone's got insider contact with Nokia?
On 2007-09-04 16:08:57, GUCCI.011 wrote:
@ eskaparate,yes the N80 is a great phone,i have been enjoying mine for the past two months or so, i find the Music Player a bit boring,but a great music is LCG JUKEBOX, it has great interface and album art, unfortunetly i dont have the download link for it
@ miss uk, i find the N80 a generally slow phone,but for me its start up is on par with my previous phones ( SE W900) start up time.
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there is a new AV player "CoreCodec" that supports many format. You may want to try this also (it runs well on my N95 but not sure on N80). Or you can try ALON MP3 Dictaphone. In my N70, this Alon player outputs much better sound than the built in player.
Posted by Chartreuse Eyes
Help!!!http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=154600
Posted by Miss UK
Wierd then cos I only updated my software Saturday and I
got version 4
whats Version 5 got? anything different?
Posted by Miss UK
Does the N80 have Macro mode on it
I didn't get a manual for it lol any help please guys
Posted by TheWhizz_68
On 2007-09-05 18:02:02, miss uk wrote:
Does the N80 have Macro mode on it
I didn't get a manual for it lol any help please guys
Yeah the N80 does have macro mode, it is the slider below the lens to use that mode.
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Posted by Dogmann
@Miss UK
Go to the Nokia UK site here at this link is the user guide download and everything else you might need for your N80.
http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4222048
Go here if you have flashed it to the Internet Edition
http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4275121
Marc
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Posted by GUCCI.011
@mib
Do you mean CorePlayer? In that case,yes i do have it,got the cracked version
hehehe,works on N80, although i stil use SmartMovie for some videos
Posted by Miss UK
Thanks you too
Posted by Prom1
@ Dogmann. I don't know why so many ppl diss the iPod - especially SE & Nokia users. Apple makes & mostly design's PURE quality products. Is it any wonder why the iPod became the status quo? Apple has delivered status quo products as simply MERE products. Just like a mortal man is simply just your average day guy - he can do WONDERS if only his mind is set to it and BELIEVE's it can be done without being stopped. Apple always delivers its products first to the Apple ppl because they are the MOST scrutinizing clients in the PC and now the audio business in the "general" public. What Apple delivers BEST is the SYNERGY of technology, products and how ppl USE it. Apple is consistently innovating on the basic concept that Sony just left idle when they had a chance to explode with the Walkman lineup. Sony spread wide and thin but didn't innovate in a MASS scale and had a last-chance with the Hi-MD something I think even with Mini-Disc was incredible (those with an Optical out Sony deck with a recordable Mini-Disc player in 96 would know just how much fun to record & listen to music was. And moreso with a 3.5mm jack cable at HMV kiosks hehe)!
Nokia SAW this long ago and worked with them for the OSS Nokia Browser, many S60 users today STILL don't even KNOW this. Apple had ALL this technology already with the original beta version of the Safari browser and used the OSS Nokia collaboration as a test bed. Nokia refined and tweaked it more themselves and now has memory usuage situations on lower memory products. All that power has GOT to come from somewhere.
I'm still looking for the right balance.
E61i is just too wide for me. I'm eyeing the BB8320 right now but its low on multi-tasking with music and looking at photos (STILL cannot do this simple thing on my BB Pearl, BB Curve that others have so I have doubts with the BB 8320 Curve + WiFi).
N81 is almost perfect but I WANT TV out to view movies that I record in VGA 30fps quality of the silly outtings from dancing all night and route to my friends place for chilling after party music listening. I don't get to do this as often as I used to - family now responsibilities; but the rare time I do I cannot record for funny's. NOT with a BlackBerry and not with the N81 - so I may just pass.
N82 is coming up to bat > and I cannot wait long enough. W960i is perfect for music listening but WHY is SE NOT working on quality Stereo recording??
MANY MANY MANY users of their walkman lineup actually do WRITE and COMPOSE & play their OWN music! SE & Sony have an INCREDIBLE opportunity here but they DON'T work on this or are afraid because of digitial music rights issues.
Posted by BobaFett
still dont get, why no af on n80? was really crap decision by nokia to make it 3.2 mp without af
Posted by Miss UK
AF?
Posted by BobaFett
autofocus
Posted by Miss UK
Ahh
the N80 takes pretty good photo's indoors haven't took anything outside yet with it tho..
I hope my Keypad arrives before Saturday and the Tools I want the phone looking in tip top condition
Posted by GUCCI.011
I agree with you @ miss uk,it takes great pics,maybe not as great as N73 but pretty close. Im going to get a Black housing soon for mine as wel,i dont realy like this silver/grey colour
Posted by Miss UK
I placed a few indoor shot's on JoJo's thread for other manufacturers photo's there pretty good all my other phones took weak indoor shot's except for my D600 it took in and out shots pretty well for 2.0MP camera
has the N73 got Wi-Fi?
Posted by spikeyjac
no the n73 hasnt got wifi
Posted by Miss UK
shame no good to me that phone
Posted by BobaFett
n80 wifi is really crap imo, last night had to test it, and e60 found wifi, aslong n80 never or maybe 1 or 2, instead of the 7-8 what was shown on e60... any thoughts?
Posted by QVGA
On 2007-09-07 11:00:28, BobaFett wrote:
n80 wifi is really crap imo, last night had to test it, and e60 found wifi, aslong n80 never or maybe 1 or 2, instead of the 7-8 what was shown on e60... any thoughts?
I think N80 as a whole is crap. Its the buggiest N series phone out there.
Posted by BobaFett
so i was right, thoust, i made a istake when i changed the product code and flashed it to ie... even with the latest fw seems n80 is really crap
Posted by GUCCI.011
I compared my N80 wifi to my PSP and my Dad's E61 wifi and my N80 found all 6 access points in the area just like how PSP and E61 did, not finding mine too buggy,its working perfectly for me and mine has got the old V4.0623.0.42 firmware
Posted by Miss UK
Wi-Fi on my N80 is perfect to Bobafetts is the same as mine,
however Boba's phone has a Reception fault!
what sort of bugs are you going on about btw?
only thing which annoys me is the fact it takes ages to boot-up
ive replaced my battery with a brand new one and it seems good too
N80 is a decent phone I keep forgetting it has 2 Browsers god my phonebill is going to be the death of me next month
Posted by Dogmann
@Miss UK
To protect against unexpected phone bills on all the programs that use an Internet connection go into settings and either set it to always ask, or set it up to user defined and select your own Wlan router.
As i am home most of the time i have all my programs that need Internet access set to use my Wlan router and only if i am out need to change to allow T-Mobile access. That IMO is the safest way of doing it and should protect you from running up high bills.
Marc