Posted by Daisun
I've bought the HBH-DS970 and i've connected it to my k800i and it works fine. I would turn on the headset and it would connect automatically with the phone but there seems to be a small bug regarding the mediaplayer.
When i press the play button on the headset the media player would open in the phone and the headset would display a music icon showing that music was being streamed to the ear peices, but sometimes there is no music coming out of the ear phones and i have to close the media player(by pressing and holding the play button) and then reopen it (by pressing the play button once.) After doing that the music plays fine.
I was wondering if anyone with this k800i and HBH-DS970 combination is experiencing similar problems?
Also does anyone notices any differences in sound when fiddling with the equalizer and listening to music through the headset? because it sounds the same to me but when i'm using the normal wired headphones i can hear a very distinct difference in sound when i change equalizer settings.
Thx in advanced.
Posted by masseur
I have also experienced the no music issue a couple of times with the K800 and I find I have to turn off and on the DS970 and then its fine. As I said though I've only experienced it probably 3 or 4 times since getting the K800 and DS970
With your second issue, I don't hear any difference in the equaliser settings but stereo widening does make a difference
Posted by Daisun
Yeh my sound issue can be easly resolved by just turning the mediaplayer on and off which is accessable via the headset controls. I like how i dun need to touch my fone at all..lol
Do you reckon the equalizer and how it doesn't affect the sound is a bug? i also notice that the volume when changed on the phone doesn't affect the volume on the headset, the volume on the fone could be 0 and the headset would still have music coming out of it. Oh and yeh i noticed stereo widening worked but i prefer it off.
Posted by Spawn
Yes another k800i and hbh ds970 user here, ive noticed that bug as well. The way i solve it is by pressing the play button on the headset then using the joystick i move to the next track...that seems to work then i go back to the original track i was playing and all is well.
Posted by masseur
I haven't noticed this on the M600 or P990 so, like the non display of track info, it seems the K800 does have a couple of issues with the DS970 but as we're still waiting for our first update on the K800 I expect these will be taken care of
Posted by Spawn
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No the headset is perfectly fine with my hbh ds970 and even displays the track info, its the k800i that has problems with it. It will connect to the headset but it wont play straight away and plus no track info.
Im a bit surprised that there isnt a firmware update yet for the k800i or unless ive missed it.
Posted by Daisun
I've got another question. Is it possible to make the ringtone play through the headset rather than the headsets own ringtone melody?
Posted by pecunia
HOW CAN I UPDATE THIS FOR USE WITH K800i? I HAVE F/W R2C - i want to be able to see track names on the device. TY
Posted by masseur
go here and update using wotan server and all will be well
Posted by pecunia
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ok thanks, but which link do i click on that page - and will it cost? where is the free way to update firmware? i have firmware r1cb001
Posted by masseur
er, if you click "buy account now" you get the info you need
Posted by pecunia
which one do i want:
R1EJ001
R1EG001
R1ED001
R1CF001
R1CB001 - i have this one!
Posted by pecunia
Firmware File
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250210_GENERIC_WI_R1CB001_RED49.wtm
R1CF001 K800_CXC1250210_GENERIC_WI_R1CF001_RED49.wtm
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250210_GENERIC_WI_R1ED001_RED49.wtm
R1EG001 K800_CXC1250210_GENERIC_WI_R1EG001_RED49.wtm
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250214_CHINA_WI_R1CB001_RED49.wtm
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250214_CHINA_WI_R1ED001_RED49.wtm
R1EJ001 K800_CXC1250214_CHINA_WI_R1EJ001_RED49.wtm
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250215_HONG_KONG_WI_R1CB001_RED49.wtm
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250215_HONG_KONG_WI_R1ED001_RED49.wtm
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250216_TAIWAN_WI_R1CB001_RED49.wtm
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250216_TAIWAN_WI_R1ED001_RED49.wtm
R1EJ001 K800_CXC1250216_TAIWAN_WI_R1EJ001_RED49.wtm
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_APAC_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_APAC_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1EJ001 K800_CXC1250490_APAC_R1EJ001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_BALTIC_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_CENT_EUROPE_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1CF001 K800_CXC1250490_CENT_EUROPE_R1CF001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_CENT_EUROPE_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_C_ASIA_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_C_ASIA_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_1_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_1_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_2_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1CF001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_2_R1CF001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_2_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1EG001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_2_R1EG001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_3_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1CF001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_3_R1CF001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_3_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_4_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_4_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_5_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_5_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_FRANCE_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_FRANCE_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_HONG_KONG_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_HONG_KONG_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_MEDITERR_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1CF001 K800_CXC1250490_MEDITERR_R1CF001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_MEDITERR_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_M_EAST_N_AFR_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1CF001 K800_CXC1250490_M_EAST_N_AFR_R1CF001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_M_EAST_N_AFR_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_RUSSIA_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_RUSSIA_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_S_ASIA_LEVAN_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_S_E_EUROPE_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_S_E_EUROPE_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1CB001 K800_CXC1250490_TAIWAN_R1CB001_RED49.wtf
R1ED001 K800_CXC1250490_TAIWAN_R1ED001_RED49.wtf
R1EJ001 K800_CXC1250490_TAIWAN_R1EJ001_RED49.wtf
which one(s)?
sorry to be a noob
Posted by pecunia
yes did it - upgraded phone for free on SE program
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dam bought £5 of wotan credit as well
anyone need a wotan?
Posted by baste07
so you update the Phone FW and not FW of the headset?
Posted by Dogmann
@Daisun
You are getting the phone volume and the Multimedia volume mixed up try changing the multimedia volume and then adjusting the headset volume and see what happens.
I must say most of the time the HBH-DS970's work perfectly with the M600 and when they do i am more than happy with the sound but sometimes i have to actually start playing the Music Player and then transfer the sound from there for it to work. As i have stated before i am less than happy with bluetooth stability in my M600 looking forward to the next update and am going to get the newer firmware for the headset also. You would of thought by now simple things like this shouldn't need updated software to fix bugs i really am beginning to lose all faith in SE and am beginning to wonder just what SE will have to come up with for me to ever be a customer again.
Marc
Posted by baste07
just go my ds970.. tried for a bit... excellent..
will try it out tomorrow and see if there are any instability issues with my k800
Posted by sapporobaby
There are plenty stability issues with the k800i and HBH-DS970. It appears that the buffer used for streaming is not large enough to sometimes capture enough data, or the buffer tends to overflow resulting in stops in the music. Positioning may play an integral part as well. My k800i does not like to be placed on my left arm while it is happy on the right. All in all I am abandoning SE. Their products are becoming worse and worse. Anyone want an M600i, two months old cheap? I am getting the N95 when it comes out. I don't care how much it costs.
Posted by Dogmann
@sapporobaby
I must say i feel your pain if not your totally giving up on SE, Laffen has reported some nice improvements coming for the M600 and with the new firmware for the HBH-DS970's available. I am about to do a re flash and master reset, read the manual from cover to cover explore every single option, install SwissManager and even as absurd as it seems to run the video player in the background to try and least once more to see if i can never mind love but use this phone. I really do think as a music player it is amazing with the HBH's i just find everything so slow and navigating any where a real pain. But i still still have some faith in SE and the improvements have so far be good. I think we just have to accept the days of true multitasking are gone for good. Multitasking is still possible but on a much more restricted and selective level and this is true of all the new Symbian OS 9.1 smart phones. One step forward two steps back it seems.
Marc
Posted by baste07
tring mine out right now... works well if in the same room but when i tried going to another room it skips, i guess normal because of all obstructions..
no problem so far walking and the phone in my backpack.
Posted by dan173
I have a DS970, worked fine with the P990i but I am having proving with the K800i. Voice calls remains on the phone (incoming or outgoing). Music is so far OK. I am not sure if his is a feature of Bluetooth, but I use SE bluetooth car kit. when I start the car this turns on, the its connect straight away to my P990i which was connected to the DS970 prior to me entering the car. Slick (right?). When I leave the car the P990i switches back to the DS970. Isn't this great?
Posted by baste07
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for your voice calls problems going to the phone. maybe you need to set it to the handsfree when connected
settings>connectivity>bluetooth>handsfree>incoming call
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Already did that but so far no luck.
Posted by sapporobaby
@dan173,
Can you be a bit more clear with your problem? You talk about your K800i, then the P990 and the HBH-DS970. You are all over the place. I think you are having a problem with the headset connecting to the k800i but then you start talking about something else. So which is it?
Posted by cloud2001
i have a HBH-DS970 with a w850 and it continually drops audio. I will have music playing then suddenly nothing, this may not happen for 30min then next time happens after a few minutes. VERY ANNOYING. The HBH-DS970 is still on with the name of the song on display but no audio in headset. I have to re-pair the HBH-DS970 and turn the media player off and on. Problem with HBH-DS970 or W850??
Posted by dan173
Sapporobaby
Yes, I have a problem with the K800i and the D970. Calls are not being transfered to the headset.
Posted by sapporobaby
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Ah, okay. Try this. Delete allllll pairings that you have to the phone and to the headset. Make sure your headset is set to receive a BT connection from only one device. Now pair the phone and the DS970. Once they pair, make a test to see if the DS970 will answer the phone. If it does then you are in business. If not, then you should take it back to SE along with the phone and have them make it work.
Posted by baste07
how long does your ds970 last (used as a music player).. should be 14 hours right? only getting hours of use out of it
Posted by sapporobaby
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I've never gotten over 5 or 6 hours. Where did this 14 hours timeframe come from? Is it in the White Paper?
Posted by baste07
really? its just about that long? 5 to 6 hours then my headset is normal then.
i'm trying to remember where i read that 14 hours. but i guess it's not correct. so just 5 to 6 hours battery life.
Posted by hanugro
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I have S700i and it got almost the same problem with HBH-660. The first time I pair the phone and headset then all is working well. After a while (few minutes standby) the phone does not use the headset anymore and I need to repair both to work again. It is slightly better than HBH-60 that does not even work after the first call.
Seems that even the latest firmware will not cure it. My wife Z610 seems to work OK with HBH-660.
I am about to buy K800 and stereo headset but got worried now. Could you tell me what version is your K800 firmware and have you resolved it?
[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2006-11-28 01:40 ]
Posted by sapporobaby
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Dude,
all this talk about firmware versions is pretty much useless. Either purchase it, see if works or not or don't purchase it. Not trying to sound hard but there are many, many, many in this forum that do nothing but sniff around for new firmware. They live for the firmware update so that they can then live again for the next one. Get the headset and see if it works. If not, then take it back or take your phone back. I have the k800i and the HBH-DS970 and they work great together. BT does not use much power, transmission wise, so a dropout here or there is normal.
Posted by sh1sk
i have some questions.. how much does the headset cost? and how does the geniune packaging look like.. cuz on ebay theres a lot of different packages and prices, the go from about 60 to 80 bucks.. a lil help?
[ This Message was edited by: sh1sk on 2006-12-31 03:18 ]
Posted by hanugro
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Well, I don't buy this nonsense. If you sell something it must work as per spec. My S700 is written to be compatible with HBH-660 so I expect it to work perfectly. This thing (don't work after few minutes) happen all the time and repeatable. It is not just signal drop here and there. The distance between my mobile and my headset is not more than 1m (when driving). So there is no excuse for it not working. I am 100% sure the problem lies with S700 because sometime it revert to bluetooth-off mode by ITSELF and that should be fixable by firmware.
Imagine when you are driving with the bluetooth headset and it does not transfer your call to the headset. My old T610, T630, and Z610 works so why S700 won't? BTW I have bought K800 but haven't tried the HBH-660 wit t yet.
Also my country is not US where you can return product with no question ask. Here you buy, and if it does not work, they service. If still does not work then they just say "tough luck and please sell it yourself."