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Posted by n3o
just now our national mobile provider has started to sell K800...so what do you think I should do...wait for W850 which has 1G Memory stick duo pro added to the mobile phone(by the way I have some 2 ordenary Memory stixc duo)...or buy K800 which has 2,3mega pix cammera but which uses memory stic micro, but non is added to the mobile, when you buy it...PLEASE HELP...my decission will be based ALSO on the experience of you-owners of K800...how is the joystic behaving...how sensitive is the screen schraches...Thanks for your answers


Posted by shaliron
There are sooooo many threads discussing this very thing. Here's one. And remember
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=125409

And if you want to know about user opinion on the phone, also search, although most people agree that it's pretty darn good, and the joystick seems to be better than the K750 but not by much.

Posted by BobaFett
didnt know that w850 comes with 1gb card... will that be standard at the coming fones instead of 512?

Posted by QVGA
If you go crazy over cameras then get the k800. W850 IMO is a much more innovative phone.

Posted by tranced
it is up to you. W850 for massive storage and music (that's why the 1gb) and if u prefer picture quality go for the k800

Posted by Vercetti
Take the K800i it's a damn good phone, love it. And the W850i is ugly as hell.

Posted by Manuel_max
W850i is ugly ???? I DO NOT THINK SO!

Whatever.... if you need excellent photos! go for k800 but if you like a good music player go for w850.

Regards..........




Posted by shaliron
Well the W850 has one or two disadvantages with the K800. One is the camera, and the other is (maybe) the lack of the Google blogging application. So unless you really want the camera and the blogging app, then go for the W850 for increased style, memory and music player.

Posted by n3o
does w850 have worse cammera then w810?

Posted by jakontil
Based on the choice u gave, i'd pick k800 anytime, i'd stil prefer w900 ova w850 thou

Posted by n3o
so has w810 better cammera then w850

Posted by Manuel_max
yes the W810 have autofocus!

Regards...

Posted by nalbagli
I have not tried w850 but seems a great phone. I own a k800 and can tell you is a great phone joystick has not presented problems and has everything you need in a phone, cam is outstanding and mp3 player is very good. Btw k800 is cheaper than w850 so if you can afford a w850 you can buy the k800 with a 1gb memory stick micro.

But I think you need to tell what do you use of the phone

[ This Message was edited by: nalbagli on 2006-11-12 18:02 ]

Posted by n3o
so we would say W850 camera is the same as the one ion w800...the same quality pic?

Posted by shaliron
The W850's camera is worse than the one in the W800, W900 and W810. I bet it's the same one as the one in the K610, which isn't too bad, although nothing compared to the K750 etc.

Posted by n3o
does not K610 have 1,6 megapix camera?

Posted by shaliron
No, it has a fixed focus 2 megapixel camera just like the W850.

Posted by n3o
so you say it makes quite decent photos...

Posted by shaliron
Decent photos, but without flash, which is a bummer. Because of the lack of auto focus details, like fur on a cat, appear messy and smudged though. Nice big landscape photos are pretty good though. Look here for the main thread with phtos by the K610: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=128033

Posted by QVGA
Since W850 is purely for music listeners, a 2MP camera should be considered as a bonus. Plus, you get a 1GB card right out of the box.


Posted by shaliron
@QVGA
No, I'd say that the W850 is just like any other all rounder phone, and an 'upgrade' (if you don't think about the camera) to the W810. The W950 on the other hand is meant for pure music listeners.

Posted by n3o
so what should you suggest...to take w810 because of better camera and worse walkman player...or w850-worse camera...but better walkman player (is it so much better then the one in w810?...) and ok it supports BT stereo and I dont need 3G...because today I had k800 in my hands and it gives a bit to "plastic" feeling to me....


[ This Message was edited by: n3o on 2006-08-21 14:32 ]

Posted by shaliron
Well it ultimately depends on what suits you. Do you want to use the W850 as your dedicated music player? Apart from the camera (at it's not too horrible) the rest of the phone is superior. Better screen, inteface, 3G, player (with album art, track ID, extra options for sorting and nicer look), form factor, larger included memory card etc.
The only disadvantage is the camera and the price, because no doubt, the W850 will cost more. There's a review on mobile-review of the W850 with pictures and photos made by the camera.

Posted by n3o
Thanks...the price will be comparable to K800's?...and yeah my eyes are on W850

Posted by shaliron
Yeah, I'd say the W850 would be somewhere around the K800's price at the moment, if not a tiny bit more.

Posted by QVGA
If the W850 is the same price, and if its even more, then there must be a reason for it? What is that? Having a far inferior camera, and still the same price?


Posted by jcwhite_uk
I would not be surprised to see the W850i cost a bit more than the K800i as it has better headphones, a memory stick (K800i doesnt) and Walkman functionality (SE charge more just for a slightly different peice of software.

Posted by shaliron
It'll be expensive because most consumers would rather the better looking phone with the camera that's only 1 megaxel less than the K800. It'll come with a memory card and quite a few extras that the K800 didn't have. Most don't realise what auto-focus is.
The W850 will also be newer than the K800 when it comes out, so that'll play a factor as well.

Posted by goldenface
@N3o

The W850 has a couple of good features that the K800 will never have and thats TrackID and also the new 2.0 player, the first handset to have it.

I'd say the K800i is as good at imaging as the is at music so really its down to whats more important to you.

Personally, I would be tempted by the W850i.

Posted by n3o
does ID-track even work???because K800 has it and it does not work,...

Posted by shaliron
@n3o
No, the K800 doesn't have Track ID, which is exclusive. Maybe you're talking about something else. Track ID is when the player samples some of the music (5 seconds maybe) and sends it to the online database to get matched to the equivalent song, so that if you don't know what you're listening to, you do.

Posted by >500
the k800i does have track id, only for radio though i think. The feature is being released towards the end of this year and is going to be a free service. It records a little and finds it on the net or something.....i could be wrong though...

Posted by dancingfate
I will wait for W850 as an upgrade to my current W800.
I don't like K800 design and W850 will be my first experience with a slider phone.
I do know and believe that K800 has great 3.2MP camera and other features but still I dont like the look of K800.


Posted by kalleboo
Quote:

On 2006-08-25 11:12:45, ads1107 wrote:
the k800i does have track id, only for radio though i think. The feature is being released towards the end of this year and is going to be a free service. It records a little and finds it on the net or something.....i could be wrong though...


The K800 will NOT have TrackID, it will be a Walkman-only feature, showing up first on the W850, W710 and W950.

[ This Message was edited by: kalleboo on 2006-08-25 10:31 ]

Posted by >500
i thought i read that the k800 will have this feature for radio only. Guess i was wrong

Posted by obl
Is the camera of the W850 better than the w800? Cuz I've seen some pictures made by the K800 and I have to say my w800 can make nicer pics. So if the camera of the W850 is the same as the W800 then I'm pleased.

Are there some more disadvantages with the W850??

Posted by MAX PAYNE
I want to know the Sound quality of the speaker, not the headset. Is the two equally loud or the w850 is better??

Posted by mcrosser
@obl the camera in W800 is better than that of W850, because W800 has autofocus and W850 doesn't. This must have been asked a thousand times already ...

Posted by jack77777
k800i camera , w850i music

you want both , well buy wich appeals to you most and make up for it with a digital camera or ipod


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